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= DNF and bootc in Image Mode Fedora variants
= DNF and bootc in Image Mode Fedora variants


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== Summary ==
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Enhance the image-mode Fedora user experience by providing familiar dnf commands on client side and inside a docker build.
Provide DNF5 alongside rpm-ostree while we slowly port functionality from rpm-ostree to DNF5.
DNF5 can be used in most cases during container builds (Containerfile/Dockerfiles) for a familiar UX, initially DNF will point users to use rpm-ostree on a booted image-based/ostree system.
For Fedora 41, provide DNF5 on image-based Fedora variants (Atomic desktops, Fedora IoT, etc). We will update all layering examples to use dnf during build time when possible.
Additionally to DNF we will still provide '''rpm-ostree''' as the main tool for package layering on the client side and '''bootc''' to manage transactional, in-place operating system updates using OCI/Docker container images.
DNF5 will provide a helpful error when running on an ostree/image-based booted system pointing to use rpm-ostree or to unlock the system.


== Owner ==
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* Name: [[User:jmarrero| Joseph Marrero]]
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== Current status ==
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== Detailed Description ==
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Having the Fedora ecosystem (from users to release engineering) move away from DNF on image-based systems is not productive as it has forced sysadmins and users to not use DNF as they are accustomed to and learn a new tool to do rpm package management in their systems. This change proposal starts the process of making DNF the client side tool to manage rpms on image-based systems in the future. To start we will provide the DNF5 package alongside rpm-ostree, giving sysadmins and users the ability to use DNF on their container builds and unlocked systems running image-based Fedora variants. We will also provide bootc to manage the image-based deployments and updates.
This proposes that:
* DNF5 is included on image-based/ostree Fedora variants.
* DNF5 is updated to point users to rpm-ostree on booted client systems when invoked.
* rpm-ostree features will start being ported to DNF5.
* We support '''deriving''' new user custom images from image-based Fedora images and installing software using DNF during builds.
* We ship bootc on all Fedora image-based variants.


== Feedback ==
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* A familiar UX for rpms during container builds of image-based Fedora.
* A new dedicated tool for image-based system updates management that follows the *nix ethos of using one thing and doing it well.
* An initial use of DNF on booted image-based systems when the system is unlocked.


== Scope ==
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  * Add DNF5 and bootc on all image-based/ostree variants.
  * Update DNF5 error message when called on a booted image-based/ostree system


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The "other" here is vague, but certainly developing this so far has needed cooperation with e.g. the containers, coreos and dnf organizations etc.


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Each individual edition/spin would need to include bootc and dnf(DNF5). However rpm-ostree will still be present, which means there is no upgrade/compatibility impact, we are adding additional tools not removing tools or functionality.


== Early Testing (Optional) ==
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== How To Test ==
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On a booted image-based host, run:
dnf install <package>
and
bootc status
also on a Dockerfile/Containerfile with a image-based Fedora variant as a base image add a package using dnf.
RUN dnf install <package>


== User Experience ==
== User Experience ==
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Users of image-based Fedora variants will be able to use the `dnf` command on Container builds and unlocked systems.


== Dependencies ==
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Release engineering.


== Contingency Plan ==
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* Contingency mechanism: Continue to ship without DNF in some or all image-based/ostree variants.
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* Contingency deadline: beta freeze.
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* Blocks release? No
 


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  https://dnf5.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
  https://containers.github.io/bootc/


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== Release Notes ==
== Release Notes ==

Revision as of 17:22, 7 May 2024

= DNF and bootc in Image Mode Fedora variants

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This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux.
This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.

Summary

Enhance the image-mode Fedora user experience by providing familiar dnf commands on client side and inside a docker build. Provide DNF5 alongside rpm-ostree while we slowly port functionality from rpm-ostree to DNF5.

DNF5 can be used in most cases during container builds (Containerfile/Dockerfiles) for a familiar UX, initially DNF will point users to use rpm-ostree on a booted image-based/ostree system.

For Fedora 41, provide DNF5 on image-based Fedora variants (Atomic desktops, Fedora IoT, etc). We will update all layering examples to use dnf during build time when possible. Additionally to DNF we will still provide rpm-ostree as the main tool for package layering on the client side and bootc to manage transactional, in-place operating system updates using OCI/Docker container images.

DNF5 will provide a helpful error when running on an ostree/image-based booted system pointing to use rpm-ostree or to unlock the system.

Owner

Current status

DNF5 when installed on a image-based/ostree system can be used to install rpms if the system is unlocked, it also works on most container builds, one major exception at the moment are kernel installations and kernel updates. DNF is not part of image variants at the moment, however CoreOS is exploring adding it via: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1687

Bootc allows system admins to deploy bootable containers and it's available on the Fedora repositories.

  • Targeted release: Fedora Linux 41
  • Last updated: 2024-05-07
  • [Announced]
  • [<will be assigned by the Wrangler> Discussion thread]
  • FESCo issue: <will be assigned by the Wrangler>
  • Tracker bug: <will be assigned by the Wrangler>
  • Release notes tracker: <will be assigned by the Wrangler>

Detailed Description

Having the Fedora ecosystem (from users to release engineering) move away from DNF on image-based systems is not productive as it has forced sysadmins and users to not use DNF as they are accustomed to and learn a new tool to do rpm package management in their systems. This change proposal starts the process of making DNF the client side tool to manage rpms on image-based systems in the future. To start we will provide the DNF5 package alongside rpm-ostree, giving sysadmins and users the ability to use DNF on their container builds and unlocked systems running image-based Fedora variants. We will also provide bootc to manage the image-based deployments and updates.

This proposes that:

  • DNF5 is included on image-based/ostree Fedora variants.
  • DNF5 is updated to point users to rpm-ostree on booted client systems when invoked.
  • rpm-ostree features will start being ported to DNF5.
  • We support deriving new user custom images from image-based Fedora images and installing software using DNF during builds.
  • We ship bootc on all Fedora image-based variants.

Feedback

Benefit to Fedora

  • A familiar UX for rpms during container builds of image-based Fedora.
  • A new dedicated tool for image-based system updates management that follows the *nix ethos of using one thing and doing it well.
  • An initial use of DNF on booted image-based systems when the system is unlocked.

Scope

  • Proposal owners:
 * Add DNF5 and bootc on all image-based/ostree variants.
 * Update DNF5 error message when called on a booted image-based/ostree system 
  • Other developers:

The "other" here is vague, but certainly developing this so far has needed cooperation with e.g. the containers, coreos and dnf organizations etc.

  • Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change)
  • Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
  • Alignment with the Fedora Strategy:

Upgrade/compatibility impact

Each individual edition/spin would need to include bootc and dnf(DNF5). However rpm-ostree will still be present, which means there is no upgrade/compatibility impact, we are adding additional tools not removing tools or functionality.

Early Testing (Optional)

Do you require 'QA Blueprint' support? No

How To Test

On a booted image-based host, run: dnf install <package> and bootc status

also on a Dockerfile/Containerfile with a image-based Fedora variant as a base image add a package using dnf. RUN dnf install <package>

User Experience

Users of image-based Fedora variants will be able to use the dnf command on Container builds and unlocked systems.

Dependencies

Release engineering.

Contingency Plan

  • Contingency mechanism: Continue to ship without DNF in some or all image-based/ostree variants.
  • Contingency deadline: beta freeze.
  • Blocks release? No

Documentation

 https://dnf5.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
 https://containers.github.io/bootc/

N/A (not a System Wide Change)

Release Notes