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== Fedora 19 Alpha status ==
== Fedora 19 Alpha status ==
* TC6 may be available by time of meeting, depends on release engineering
* [[rhbug:929403|Bugzilla: #929403]] and [[rhbug:928279|Bugzilla: #928279]] are known to be 'outstanding' blockers
* Most known blockers now have a fix available, but [[rhbug:928279|Bugzilla: #928279]] is still a problem
* dgilmore was out on the day of the meeting, may not be able to get next compose until tomorrow
* Test coverage gaps?
* karma needed for [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5141/systemd-201-1.fc19,initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19] and [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5027/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19]
* go/no-go was scheduled for Thursday at 17:00 UTC


== Test Days ==
== Test Days ==
* [[Test_Day:2013-04-02_OpenStack|OpenStack Test Day]] review
* [[Test_Day:2013-04-02_OpenStack|OpenStack Test Day]] and [[Test_Day:2013-04-04_Printing|Printing Test Day]] both went ahead as planned without known problems
* [[Test_Day:2013-04-04_Printing|Printing Test Day]] review
* [[Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n)]] looks to be pretty much ready, we need to send out some announcements; kparal is preparing live images
* [[Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n)]] planning


== Open floor ==
== Open floor ==
N/A


== Action items ==
== Action items ==
N/A


== IRC Log ==
== IRC Log ==
{|
|- id="t15:01:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
|| [[#t15:01:29|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:29"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Meeting started Mon Apr  8 15:01:29 2013 UTC.  The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
|| [[#t15:01:29|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:29"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
|| [[#t15:01:29|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #meetingname fedora-qa
|| [[#t15:01:33|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:33"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
|| [[#t15:01:33|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic roll call
|| [[#t15:01:40|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | morning folks
|| [[#t15:01:42|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:47"
| colspan="2" | * nirik is lurking.
|| [[#t15:01:47|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:49"
| colspan="2" | * satellit listening
|| [[#t15:01:49|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:52"
| colspan="2" | * kparal cheers
|| [[#t15:01:52|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:54"
| colspan="2" | * mkrizek is here
|| [[#t15:01:54|15:01]]
|- id="t15:02:14"
| colspan="2" | * brunowolff is here
|| [[#t15:02:14|15:02]]
|- id="t15:02:20"
| colspan="2" | * jskladan tips his hat
|| [[#t15:02:20|15:02]]
|- id="t15:03:02"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney sets down the banjo
|| [[#t15:03:02|15:03]]
|- id="t15:03:11"
| colspan="2" | * tflink is present
|| [[#t15:03:11|15:03]]
|- id="t15:03:21"
| colspan="2" | * jreznik is here
|| [[#t15:03:21|15:03]]
|- id="t15:03:24"
| colspan="2" | * pschindl is here
|| [[#t15:03:24|15:03]]
|- id="t15:03:28"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | morning adamw!
|| [[#t15:03:28|15:03]]
|- id="t15:03:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | wow, guess i can't sleep through this one huh
|| [[#t15:03:38|15:03]]
|- id="t15:04:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Fedora 19 Alpha status
|| [[#t15:04:36|15:04]]
|- id="t15:05:00"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so, everybody touch wood, but we're actually looking pretty good
|| [[#t15:05:00|15:05]]
|- id="t15:05:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info current blocker list: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/19/alpha/buglist
|| [[#t15:05:09|15:05]]
|- id="t15:05:16"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney doesn't have any wood around.
|| [[#t15:05:16|15:05]]
|- id="t15:05:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | there's only three proposed blockers (which don't look likely to be accepted) and two possible issues in the accepted blockers
|| [[#t15:05:57|15:05]]
|- id="t15:06:37"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | we were able to figure out initial-setup one in the morning
|| [[#t15:06:37|15:06]]
|- id="t15:07:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | right - this is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=929403 , it was 'fixed' but the fix was incorrect
|| [[#t15:07:24|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we're currently getting the fix corrected
|| [[#t15:07:29|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:39"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | it has to be verified now
|| [[#t15:07:39|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | then there's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928279 , it looks like some progress has been made there
|| [[#t15:07:41|15:07]]
|- id="t15:08:25"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | we have at least a clue and also - it was moved from F15 beta blocker to NTH that time and we have several workarounds...
|| [[#t15:08:25|15:08]]
|- id="t15:08:45"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | I'm not sure how to fix properly... the second option should be doable
|| [[#t15:08:45|15:08]]
|- id="t15:09:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, we can re-discuss it at the blocker meeting and see if we want to drop blocker status
|| [[#t15:09:07|15:09]]
|- id="t15:09:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info 929403 and 928279 are known to be 'outstanding' blockers
|| [[#t15:09:26|15:09]]
|- id="t15:09:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | dgilmore is out today unfortunately so we may have to wait till tomorrow for a compose
|| [[#t15:09:52|15:09]]
|- id="t15:10:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info dgilmore is out today, may not be able to get next compose until tomorrow
|| [[#t15:10:03|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:39"
| colspan="2" | * jreznik is not sure pbabinca would be able to create compose, could ask (in case we would need it)
|| [[#t15:10:39|15:10]]
|- id="t15:11:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | nirik is usually the backup
|| [[#t15:11:04|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:14"
| colspan="2" | * nirik could try if need be
|| [[#t15:11:14|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:33"
! style="background-color: #854685" | brunowolff
| style="color: #854685" | It's not good that only one person is trusted (in the knows what to do sense) to do composes.
|| [[#t15:11:33|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:38"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: yep I know, the idea is that palo could help us in out timezone too (to make the process faster when needed)
|| [[#t15:11:38|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:42"
| colspan="2" | * nirik has access and can do them
|| [[#t15:11:42|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | ah
|| [[#t15:11:50|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so, looking at test coverage, we're not looking too bad
|| [[#t15:11:59|15:11]]
|- id="t15:12:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we could do with testing some USB installs to bare metal, and UEFI too
|| [[#t15:12:18|15:12]]
|- id="t15:13:12"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney will work on the USB
|| [[#t15:13:12|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:21"
| colspan="2" | * satellit need someone else to try bare metal USB install and confirm what I saw
|| [[#t15:13:21|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, i suspect that'll be just your system'
|| [[#t15:13:32|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | well, I had issues with a dd'ed usb stick the only time i tried now i come to think of it, so maybe not. but litd worked okay.
|| [[#t15:13:52|15:13]]
|- id="t15:14:00"
| colspan="2" | * satellit always worked before
|| [[#t15:14:00|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | okay
|| [[#t15:14:34|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:38"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney had no problem the last time he tested dd live to USB
|| [[#t15:14:38|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we only need either dd or litd to work at alpha though, so even if dd is busted it's not a disaster. but it'd be good to check
|| [[#t15:14:48|15:14]]
|- id="t15:15:05"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney is dding even now
|| [[#t15:15:05|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | it doesn't look like we need karma for any of the testing fixes except https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 (which should probably go along with a systemd build) and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 (we're waiting for a compose to test that one)
|| [[#t15:15:32|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i suppose we really should get a compose done with libreport in it to make sure that fix works...
|| [[#t15:15:45|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info karma needed for https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19
|| [[#t15:15:57|15:15]]
|- id="t15:16:13"
| colspan="2" | * satellit did netinstall of cinnamon 1 hr ago saw initial-setup on reboot
|| [[#t15:16:13|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:27"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | satellit: but with improper fix
|| [[#t15:16:27|15:16]]
|- id="t15:17:10"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | (actually I'd argue it wasn't as bad as 3/4 of services are still using the F17 way...)
|| [[#t15:17:10|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreznik: well the biggest problem was that it didn't conditionalize the service enablement to happen only on first install
|| [[#t15:17:35|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:38"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | also I should ask FPC to make the new "enabled by default" way more visible in the guidelines
|| [[#t15:17:38|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | but anyhoo.
|| [[#t15:17:45|15:17]]
|- id="t15:18:45"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: it's just a bad time for initial setup handover to vratislav, especially as it's a completely new software... :(
|| [[#t15:18:45|15:18]]
|- id="t15:19:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | jreznik: can you ask vpodzime to edit the new systemd build into the initial-setup update?
|| [[#t15:19:56|15:19]]
|- id="t15:20:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so, add systemd-200-4.fc19 to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19
|| [[#t15:20:09|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:42"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: sure, I was thinking about it but guys were faster than me
|| [[#t15:20:42|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | =)
|| [[#t15:20:46|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | okay
|| [[#t15:20:47|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:58"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | does anyone have anything else on 19 Alpha? any significant issues we're not considering?
|| [[#t15:20:58|15:20]]
|- id="t15:21:20"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | hmm, he already left
|| [[#t15:21:20|15:21]]
|- id="t15:22:03"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: do you have rights to do it in bodhi? actually I think I could do it too...
|| [[#t15:22:03|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i don't have superpowers in bodhi, but nirik could if need be
|| [[#t15:22:25|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:45"
| colspan="2" | * nirik nods. just let me know what you need.
|| [[#t15:22:45|15:22]]
|- id="t15:23:17"
! style="background-color: #488888" | nirik
| style="color: #488888" | I'm doing a f19-updates-testing push right now, can edit after that
|| [[#t15:23:17|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:18"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | for Alpha - Go/No-Go is currently scheduled on Apr 11 17:00 UTC (about to send reminder), Readiness meeting on the same day, two hours later - 19:00 UTC
|| [[#t15:23:18|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:23"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jreznik
| style="color: #818144" | nirik: thanks
|| [[#t15:23:23|15:23]]
|- id="t15:24:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info go/no-go is scheduled for Thursday at 17:00 UTC
|| [[#t15:24:12|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Test Days
|| [[#t15:24:25|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | looks like we're short a martix
|| [[#t15:24:35|15:24]]
|- id="t15:25:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-02_OpenStack and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-04_Printing both went ahead last week, some decent involvement in the printing test day
|| [[#t15:25:16|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | and good lord, i need to design some sort of autocannon system for people who write essays in the margin notes
|| [[#t15:25:35|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:43"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I'm building LiveCDs for this week's test day
|| [[#t15:25:43|15:25]]
|- id="t15:26:20"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney tried with openstack; it kept borking, so gave up
|| [[#t15:26:20|15:26]]
|- id="t15:27:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | did you report how it borked?
|| [[#t15:27:47|15:27]]
|- id="t15:29:13"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney did
|| [[#t15:29:13|15:29]]
|- id="t15:29:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yay!
|| [[#t15:29:39|15:29]]
|- id="t15:29:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | then all went according to plan.
|| [[#t15:29:47|15:29]]
|- id="t15:30:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n) is coming up on Thursday, kparal is preparing live images
|| [[#t15:30:07|15:30]]
|- id="t15:30:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair jreznik kparal
|| [[#t15:30:11|15:30]]
|- id="t15:30:12"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: adamw jreznik kparal
|| [[#t15:30:12|15:30]]
|- id="t15:30:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | the test day page is in order, l10n/i18n folks have their own setup
|| [[#t15:30:37|15:30]]
|- id="t15:32:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else on test days?
|| [[#t15:32:28|15:32]]
|- id="t15:34:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i guess not!
|| [[#t15:34:46|15:34]]
|- id="t15:34:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic open floor
|| [[#t15:34:49|15:34]]
|- id="t15:34:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | that's all we have for the agenda
|| [[#t15:34:54|15:34]]
|- id="t15:34:58"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else t odiscuss?
|| [[#t15:34:58|15:34]]
|- id="t15:35:38"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4b904b" | .bacon
|| [[#t15:35:38|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:38"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | I love bacon, you love bacon, WE ALL LOVE BACON!! (except for NiveusLuna, who was tragically attacked by bacon as a child.)
|| [[#t15:35:38|15:35]]
|- id="t15:36:02"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | spam 'n' eggs?
|| [[#t15:36:02|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:06"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink
| style="color: #4d4d93" | blocker review meeting @ 16:00 UTC
|| [[#t15:36:06|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info there is general approval of bacon
|| [[#t15:36:08|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:17"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink
| style="color: #4d4d93" | -1
|| [[#t15:36:17|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, we're following up with a blocker review meeting in #fedora-blocker-review
|| [[#t15:36:22|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | .fire tflink
|| [[#t15:36:24|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:24"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | adamw fires tflink
|| [[#t15:36:24|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info tflink was fired for disapproving of bacon
|| [[#t15:36:30|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:52"
| colspan="2" | * tflink will never understand the obsession with bacon
|| [[#t15:36:52|15:36]]
|- id="t15:37:32"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4b904b" | Bacon == life
|| [[#t15:37:32|15:37]]
|- id="t15:37:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM, FLINK
|| [[#t15:37:34|15:37]]
|- id="t15:37:49"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink
| style="color: #4d4d93" | the last time I ate bacon, I was sick for the rest of the day
|| [[#t15:37:49|15:37]]
|- id="t15:38:07"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink
| style="color: #4d4d93" | oh well, to each their own
|| [[#t15:38:07|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:12"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | misc
| style="color: #97974f" | tflink: your lack of faith in bacon is disturbing
|| [[#t15:38:12|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:53"
| colspan="2" | * jreznik is getting hungry!
|| [[#t15:38:53|15:38]]
|- id="t15:39:36"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink
| style="color: #4d4d93" | misc: more disturbing than bacon flavored for the potty-mouthed bacon lover (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/da14/)?
|| [[#t15:39:36|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:44"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | tflink
| style="color: #4d4d93" | bacon flavored soap
|| [[#t15:39:44|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | alrighty, let's give everyone 20 minutes to go and eat some bacon
|| [[#t15:39:46|15:39]]
|- id="t15:40:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | then we re-convene in #fedora-blocker-review to blow through the blocker list
|| [[#t15:40:01|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:03"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #4b904b" | .moar bacon adamw
|| [[#t15:40:03|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:03"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | here adamw, have some more bacon
|| [[#t15:40:03|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks for coming, folks
|| [[#t15:40:37|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #endmeeting
|| [[#t15:40:39|15:40]]
|}
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Attendees

Agenda

  • Fedora 19 Alpha status
  • Test Days
  • Open floor

Fedora 19 Alpha status

Test Days

Open floor

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IRC Log

adamw #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting 15:01
zodbot Meeting started Mon Apr 8 15:01:29 2013 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01
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adamw #meetingname fedora-qa 15:01
zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 15:01
adamw #topic roll call 15:01
adamw morning folks 15:01
* nirik is lurking. 15:01
* satellit listening 15:01
* kparal cheers 15:01
* mkrizek is here 15:01
* brunowolff is here 15:02
* jskladan tips his hat 15:02
* j_dulaney sets down the banjo 15:03
* tflink is present 15:03
* jreznik is here 15:03
* pschindl is here 15:03
jreznik morning adamw! 15:03
adamw wow, guess i can't sleep through this one huh 15:03
adamw #topic Fedora 19 Alpha status 15:04
adamw so, everybody touch wood, but we're actually looking pretty good 15:05
adamw #info current blocker list: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/19/alpha/buglist 15:05
* j_dulaney doesn't have any wood around. 15:05
adamw there's only three proposed blockers (which don't look likely to be accepted) and two possible issues in the accepted blockers 15:05
jreznik we were able to figure out initial-setup one in the morning 15:06
adamw right - this is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=929403 , it was 'fixed' but the fix was incorrect 15:07
adamw we're currently getting the fix corrected 15:07
jreznik it has to be verified now 15:07
adamw then there's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928279 , it looks like some progress has been made there 15:07
jreznik we have at least a clue and also - it was moved from F15 beta blocker to NTH that time and we have several workarounds... 15:08
jreznik I'm not sure how to fix properly... the second option should be doable 15:08
adamw yeah, we can re-discuss it at the blocker meeting and see if we want to drop blocker status 15:09
adamw #info 929403 and 928279 are known to be 'outstanding' blockers 15:09
adamw dgilmore is out today unfortunately so we may have to wait till tomorrow for a compose 15:09
adamw #info dgilmore is out today, may not be able to get next compose until tomorrow 15:10
* jreznik is not sure pbabinca would be able to create compose, could ask (in case we would need it) 15:10
adamw nirik is usually the backup 15:11
* nirik could try if need be 15:11
brunowolff It's not good that only one person is trusted (in the knows what to do sense) to do composes. 15:11
jreznik adamw: yep I know, the idea is that palo could help us in out timezone too (to make the process faster when needed) 15:11
* nirik has access and can do them 15:11
adamw ah 15:11
adamw so, looking at test coverage, we're not looking too bad 15:11
adamw we could do with testing some USB installs to bare metal, and UEFI too 15:12
* j_dulaney will work on the USB 15:13
* satellit need someone else to try bare metal USB install and confirm what I saw 15:13
adamw yeah, i suspect that'll be just your system' 15:13
adamw well, I had issues with a dd'ed usb stick the only time i tried now i come to think of it, so maybe not. but litd worked okay. 15:13
* satellit always worked before 15:14
adamw okay 15:14
* j_dulaney had no problem the last time he tested dd live to USB 15:14
adamw we only need either dd or litd to work at alpha though, so even if dd is busted it's not a disaster. but it'd be good to check 15:14
* j_dulaney is dding even now 15:15
adamw it doesn't look like we need karma for any of the testing fixes except https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 (which should probably go along with a systemd build) and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 (we're waiting for a compose to test that one) 15:15
adamw i suppose we really should get a compose done with libreport in it to make sure that fix works... 15:15
adamw #info karma needed for https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 15:15
* satellit did netinstall of cinnamon 1 hr ago saw initial-setup on reboot 15:16
jreznik satellit: but with improper fix 15:16
jreznik (actually I'd argue it wasn't as bad as 3/4 of services are still using the F17 way...) 15:17
adamw jreznik: well the biggest problem was that it didn't conditionalize the service enablement to happen only on first install 15:17
jreznik also I should ask FPC to make the new "enabled by default" way more visible in the guidelines 15:17
adamw but anyhoo. 15:17
jreznik adamw: it's just a bad time for initial setup handover to vratislav, especially as it's a completely new software... :( 15:18
adamw jreznik: can you ask vpodzime to edit the new systemd build into the initial-setup update? 15:19
adamw so, add systemd-200-4.fc19 to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 15:20
jreznik adamw: sure, I was thinking about it but guys were faster than me 15:20
adamw =) 15:20
adamw okay 15:20
adamw does anyone have anything else on 19 Alpha? any significant issues we're not considering? 15:20
jreznik hmm, he already left 15:21
jreznik adamw: do you have rights to do it in bodhi? actually I think I could do it too... 15:22
adamw i don't have superpowers in bodhi, but nirik could if need be 15:22
* nirik nods. just let me know what you need. 15:22
nirik I'm doing a f19-updates-testing push right now, can edit after that 15:23
jreznik for Alpha - Go/No-Go is currently scheduled on Apr 11 17:00 UTC (about to send reminder), Readiness meeting on the same day, two hours later - 19:00 UTC 15:23
jreznik nirik: thanks 15:23
adamw #info go/no-go is scheduled for Thursday at 17:00 UTC 15:24
adamw #topic Test Days 15:24
adamw looks like we're short a martix 15:24
adamw #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-02_OpenStack and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-04_Printing both went ahead last week, some decent involvement in the printing test day 15:25
adamw and good lord, i need to design some sort of autocannon system for people who write essays in the margin notes 15:25
kparal I'm building LiveCDs for this week's test day 15:25
* j_dulaney tried with openstack; it kept borking, so gave up 15:26
adamw did you report how it borked? 15:27
* j_dulaney did 15:29
adamw yay! 15:29
adamw then all went according to plan. 15:29
adamw #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n) is coming up on Thursday, kparal is preparing live images 15:30
adamw #chair jreznik kparal 15:30
zodbot Current chairs: adamw jreznik kparal 15:30
adamw the test day page is in order, l10n/i18n folks have their own setup 15:30
adamw anything else on test days? 15:32
adamw i guess not! 15:34
adamw #topic open floor 15:34
adamw that's all we have for the agenda 15:34
adamw anything else t odiscuss? 15:34
j_dulaney .bacon 15:35
zodbot I love bacon, you love bacon, WE ALL LOVE BACON!! (except for NiveusLuna, who was tragically attacked by bacon as a child.) 15:35
kparal spam 'n' eggs? 15:36
tflink blocker review meeting @ 16:00 UTC 15:36
adamw #info there is general approval of bacon 15:36
tflink -1 15:36
adamw yeah, we're following up with a blocker review meeting in #fedora-blocker-review 15:36
adamw .fire tflink 15:36
zodbot adamw fires tflink 15:36
adamw #info tflink was fired for disapproving of bacon 15:36
* tflink will never understand the obsession with bacon 15:36
j_dulaney Bacon == life 15:37
adamw THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM, FLINK 15:37
tflink the last time I ate bacon, I was sick for the rest of the day 15:37
tflink oh well, to each their own 15:38
misc tflink: your lack of faith in bacon is disturbing 15:38
* jreznik is getting hungry! 15:38
tflink misc: more disturbing than bacon flavored for the potty-mouthed bacon lover (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/da14/)? 15:39
tflink bacon flavored soap 15:39
adamw alrighty, let's give everyone 20 minutes to go and eat some bacon 15:39
adamw then we re-convene in #fedora-blocker-review to blow through the blocker list 15:40
j_dulaney .moar bacon adamw 15:40
zodbot here adamw, have some more bacon 15:40
adamw thanks for coming, folks 15:40
adamw #endmeeting 15:40

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