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Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-05-04

Participants

lxmaier: AlexMaier
MrTom: ThomasCanniot
ChitleshGoorah: ChitleshGoorah
FrancescoUgolini: FrancescoUgolini
ke4qqq: DavidNalley
FrancescoUgolini: FrancescoUgolini
CyberSpy: LeeJoseph
McGiwer: PawelSadowski
drpixel: ?
mspevack: MaxSpevack
gomix: ?
rMenezes: RodrigoMenezes
SynTed: TheodorosSynodinos

Regrets

ThomasChung
GeroldKassube
FlorianBrand
KarlieRobinson

Transcript

File:Ambassadors Meetings 2006(2d)05(2d)04_fedora-ambassadors-2006-05-04.txt

Summary

Ambassadors Schedule: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
Fedora Events: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents

Famsco Update

lxmaier reports
a meeting took place on monday
you can see the transcript here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/2006-05-01
you can see next meeting's agenda here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings
a few highlights from the meeting:
mspevack reports
so we've been shipping DVDs all over the world the last month or two and it's *incredibly* expensive and not a very good method of spending our money
we are looking into different alternative methods to help our ambassadors out with goods and money
mspevack will write up a proposal for how to handle the distribution
tchung reports
Since last report, we have 6 more new members
See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects/WeeklyReports/2006-04-24
As of 2006-04-30, we have 65 approved members (approved=signed CLA and have a Fedora account)
lxmaier: do you want to expand on the spending calamity?
mspevack:
sure -- bottom line is that we've been slowly getting ourselves sucked into the business of global distribution
mailing DVDs, shirts, etc from Raleigh all over the world
it's just an inefficient use of money
better use of money is to sponsor shows, and build up an infrastructure
that allows people worldwide to make use of local production capability to produce DVDs, etc
we've got a store set up here in the US that is about to go live, which allows people to order fedora stuff, and the shipping (within the US) is reasonably priced.
A project for the next couple of months (we're gonna have Jack Aboutboul work on it) is figuring out how to replicate that kind of a setup internationally
if we can get that in place, then the local ambassadors/folks putting on a small to mid-size show don't have to figure out how to get 100 DVDs made
they can just order them from somewhere that's reasonably close by and not get killed on shipping
so that's the grand vision -- and we need to try to make it happen
lxmaier: mspevack: could you please update the budget table in the wiki with the spending, so all of the ambassadors can see what you're talking about
MrTom: but ambassadors would have to *pay* for ordering stuffs wouldn't they ?
mspevack: there's a few different scenarios:
1: just like it is now
people request money for an event, some amount of money is given
they spend that money as they see fit, and file a report with expenses, how it was spent, the gain, etc.
and they are reimbursed
2: people want to do *even more* than the money that FAMSCO can provide directly
so, people take the money that famsco is offering, but they also get even more stuff on their own, and then re-sell it at the event (for a small cost, think of it as a Fedora

Suggested Retail Price) and use those funds to recoup costs

you could therefore have an event that is entirely self-sufficient
but you don't have to do it that way if you don't want to
it just increases the number of options for ambassadors and event organizers in the way they handle things
MrTom: about the store you are talking about... will it be a public store? if yes, what would happen if the store run out of DVDs and that an important event will not be able to receive any dvds?
mspevack:
gregdek knows more, but yes, it will be a public store.
They're going to be stocking thousands of DVDs, and if we see the numbers getting low, then we will make sure they make more
but you don't want to make too many, or else FC6 comes out and all of a sudden you have a bunch of old discs that no one wants :_)
McGiwer: i'm not sure if paying for the stuff is a good idea. i think it would be much better if the stuff at an event was given for free
mspevack:
Like I said, first of all, anyone who runs an event is always able to give stuff away for free
BUT if someone *wants* to charge a small price for some things in order to recoup some costs, then that option will be made available
and FAMSCO needs to set some guidelines around that to your other point
FAMSCO is *not* saying that it will no longer contribute budget towards events
what we are saying is that we're developing a system that hopefully will make it easier for events to happen,
and allow them to happen at a lower cost, and with less direct intervention from famsco
because that's a much more globally scalable solution
ChitleshGoorah: It wouldb nice to have priority list for ambassadors who participates in order to prevent excesss of old cds on our stock
McGiwer: i only want to comment the FAMSCO's decision: yeah, it indeed can be better than shipping the schwag all around the world, it will need just more personal commitment from the Ambassadors

Projects Reports

FreeMedia
lxmaier:
tchung is not here to report, but my understanding is that we have a largish backlog
however, we had a guy named Ryan join the Sponsored Media effort:
Ryan's site has been added to Fedora Sponsored Media Vendors list
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/SponsoredMedia
he has a little bit of a different approach, in his case, you can simply pay for him to ship the DVD to the next person on the free media list
you do not need to buy a CD for yourself
VideoContest
lxmaier:
Video contest is almost ready to launch
we have the judges panel, and we have the artwork done, waiting for approval from Red Hat brand
once this is finished, we will rock-and-roll!
Kadischi
ChitleshGoorah:
the Kadischi project as I said before on
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects/WeeklyReports/2006-04-17
Jeremy has rewrote kadischi to fix bugs
and soon we might expect an official livecd from Fedora as from Fedora 6T1
nman64:
Darko has expressed interest in returning to work on Kadischi this summer, possibly with another SoC project.

FedoraEvents

May 3-6, 2006 LinuxTag Wiesbaden, Germany
lxmaier: GeroldKa and BruderTux are both at the event at the moment
ChitleshGoorah:
I'll join the others on saturday
I have proposed gerold to give me the fedora banners in the end for my event in Strasbourg next month just to save expenses
May 12-14, 2006 ENSOL João Pessoa, Brazil
rMenezes:
Hugo Cisneiros is in Joao Pessoa right now
he has a presentation and a booth
I have some e-mails from him that I can sent to the list tomorrow
lxmaier: cool, please build a wiki page with a report if you can, rMenezes
May 20, 2006 Multimedia Day Cambrai, France
MrTom:
i will receive my brand new laptop in few days, it will help me a lot presenting the distro!
About schwags, gregdek_gone told me he would send me some, I sent him an e-mail but I had no answer
lxmaier: mspevack: do you know anything about schwag for MrTom?
June 9-10, 2006 CarolinaCon Raleigh, NC USA
CyberSpy:
Everything is good to go, just need schwag or a link to whear I can purchas schwag
I'll be speaking about Fedora and OSS at 2pm on Sat Jun 10... (lost connection)
lxmaier: let's proceed and CyberSpy will report on the list and on the wiki
ke4qqq: CarolinaCon (just for a general review) is mainly security related, tho heavily leaning towards OSS and *nix in general.
June 23-25, 2006 Journée du Libre 4 Strasbourg, France
ChitleshGoorah:
I'm looking forward for Fedora banners that is been used in LinuxTag
and this event lacks sponsors
June 23-30, 2006 Fedora, Friends and Fun Virginia Beach, VA USA
BobJensen not present
July 22-23, 2006 LUGRadio Live! 2006 Wolverhampton, UK
JonFautley not present

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