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Check out our [[Architectures/PowerPC/CurrentDevelopment|current development efforts]] and join the Fedora for Power team on IRC in {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} on http://freenode.net
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= PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group =
 
= PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group =
* IRC: #fedora-ppc on irc.freenode.net
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* IRC: {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} on irc.freenode.net
* Mailing List: [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ppc fedora-ppc mailing list]
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* Mailing List: {{fplist|ppc}}
  
 
== Members ==
 
== Members ==
* Adrian Reber
 
* [[KarstenHopp| Karsten Hopp]] (IBM Power 730 Express Server, PowerMac G5)
 
* [[User:Jskala| Jiri Skala]]
 
 
* [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] (IBM IntelliStation 275)
 
* [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] (IBM IntelliStation 275)
* [[User:dwa| David Aquilina]] (release engineer)
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* [[User:than| Than Ngo]]
 
* Mark Hamzy
 
* Mark Hamzy
* Brent Baude
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* Mike Wolf
* Gustavo Luiz Duarte
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* [[User:Gustavold| Gustavo Luiz Duarte]]
 
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* [[User:menantea| Guy Menanteau]]
== Meetings ==
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* [[User:Michelmno| Michel Normand]]
* We don't schedule any IRC meetings, although starting at the Alpha phase of any release we'll try to find some time each day to discuss open issues on our #fedora-ppc channel on IRC .
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* [[User:sinnykumari| Sinny Kumari]]
* The next 'real' [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC/Meetings/FUDCon_Lawrence_2013 meeting] of the Fedora-PPC team is planned at the FUDcon 2013 in Lawrence, Kansas.
 
 
 
== Fedora 18 ==
 
 
 
Fedora 18 for Power is currently in development. The schedule is following the one for primary as closely as possible [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/Schedule Fedora 18 schedule]. As usual we have architecture specific blocker tracking bugs open for Alpha, Beta and RC:
 
 
 
[https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F18Alphappc Fedora 18 PowerPC Alpha blocker tracker]
 
 
 
[https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F18Betappc Fedora 18 PowerPC Beta blocker tracker]
 
 
 
[https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F18Blockerppc Fedora 18 PowerPC RC blocker tracker]
 
 
 
The current nightly composes can be found here: [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/stage/f18-latest-nightly/ppc64/ F18 latest compose]
 
 
 
=== Fedora 18 Final Checklists ===
 
 
 
[http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18FinalPPC_checklist Fedora 18 Final Checklist]
 
 
 
=== Fedora 18 Beta Checklists ===
 
 
 
[http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18BetaPPC_checklist Fedora 18 Beta Checklist]
 
 
 
=== Fedora 18 Alpha Release notes ===
 
 
 
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_PPC_release_notes Fedora 18 Alpha PowerPC release notes]
 
 
 
=== Fedora 18 Alpha mirrors ===
 
 
 
[https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/18-Alpha/ppc64/ Fedora 18 Alpha PowerPC mirrorlist]
 
 
 
== Fedora 17 ==
 
 
 
Fedora 17 for Power was announced on June 14th, 2012. Please see [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_PPC_release_notes the release notes] for additional details or download it from your closest [https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/17/ppc64/ mirror]. It has been most extensively tested on IBM Power systems, but is also known to work on Apple Mac G5 systems.
 
 
 
== Fedora 16 ==
 
 
 
'''Fedora 16 for PPC64''' was released Dec. 23th, 2011. It is available on several mirrors which are listed [https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/16/ppc64/ here].
 
 
 
It is known to work on the new Power7 machines and on PowerMac G5 with > 1Gb RAM. Installations on machines with less RAM might work, but that is untested yet (feedback welcome).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A fresh installation for F16 if you're currently using a pre-release is highly recommended so that you can verify that all reported and closed as fixed bugs have really been addressed in the final F16 release.
 
  
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== Stable Release, GPG keys ==
  
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Fedora 28 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on May 1st, 2018. Please see [https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-28// the release announcement] for additional details or download it directly from [https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ here].
  
If the installation fails, here is a [http://sharkcz.livejournal.com/8649.html HOWTO] for an install that requires you to have a system with an older RHEL or Fedora installation and that doesn't use the usual anaconda installer.
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Fedora for Power uses now primary architectures GPG keys. Check [https://fedoraproject.org/keys The official Fedora GPG key list] for a list of primary/secondary keys per releases.
  
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=== Release Notes ===
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* [[Architectures/PowerPC/28|Fedora 28]]
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* [[Architectures/PowerPC/27|Fedora 27]]
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* [[Architectures/PowerPC/26|Fedora 26]]  EOL targeted end of May 2018
  
On the mirrors are also install media and packages for [https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/16/ppc PPC (32bit)]
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== Supported Architectures ==
Those are completely untested and any bugreports without patches attached that fix the issue will most likely be deferred atm as we're concentrating on 64bit as that's the only hardware that the developers currently have. We have to rely on the community to provide fixes for 32bit problems.
 
  
If you want to help out with testing, please report any problems on [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC#PowerPC.2FPOWER_Special_Interest_Group IRC] or in [http://bugzilla.redhat.com bugzilla] (make sure to set the architecture to 'powerpc'). Feedback about installations on older hardware such as 32bit PowerMac G4 is appreciated, but as we're focusing on 64bit machines it might take some time to fix 32bit issues unless patches are attached to the bugreports.
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Only 64bit machines (big endian Power5 or newer and little endian Power8 or newer) are supported, 32bit packages are not available anymore in F22 or newer. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest F21 packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore.  
  
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Fedora 18 through Fedora 23 also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected.  The focus for Fedora 24 and newer is on Power8 or newer hardware and the optimizations for these CPU types are handled through a different mechanism.
  
== Previous Fedora for Power releases ==
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Fedora 25 able to be installed also on Mac G5 machine as per https://github.com/masterzorag/G5_ppc64-linux
  
The last Fedora release for PPC before F16 was Fedora 12 and can be found at http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/12/Fedora/ppc/iso/
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Due the limited resource and clear preference of the ppc64le architecture in any new developments, it was decided that ppc64 architecture will transfer into a maintenance mode where the new features (eg. Atomic Host compose) we plan for ppc64le won't be added, see  [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ppc@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/C23EQYITA4DQWM7CQF6LJC5ABXY2XIEM/ email] for details.
  
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== Previous Releases ==
  
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You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at [[Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases]].
  
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== Build System & Resources ==
  
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===Koji===
  
== Fedora rebuild efforts ==
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====Rawhide====
There are currently efforts ongoing to recompile all packages and prepare a F-18 release.  
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On October 29, 2016 announcement was made to [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/SBQOANIUYRRRJGK3BNN5WOYERMEVTD5V/ merge ppc64(le)] koji builds of packages with [http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ primary koji].
  
This is the current [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/compare-f18.txt status of the package rebuild]:
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To make a scratch build of package for ppc64 and ppc64le in Fedora rawhide, run:
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  koji build --scratch --arch-override=ppc64,ppc64le rawhide yourpkg.src.rpm
  
[[File:Ppc-statistics-f18.png]]
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=== PPC Shell access for debugging ===
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[[user:sharkcz|Dan Horák ]] ([[fas:sharkcz|sharkcz]]) can provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send him an e-mail with a request and a public SSH key.
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fedora-infra team is also working on providing easier access to a PowerPC VM for debugging build issues. Once we have it ready, we will update this section.
  
 
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== Bugzilla ==
=== Rebuild problems, TODO list ===
 
- yaboot is only available on 32bit PPC which means we currently need some hacks for 64bit boot images. This won't change as the PPC firmware seems to be 32bit only.
 
In the long term yaboot is supposed to be replaced by grub2, at the moment it is still required to boot from DVD.
 
 
 
== The PowerPC koji build system ==
 
 
 
All official Fedora PowerPC packages will be built by the koji build system at the
 
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji PowerPC koji hub]
 
 
 
All non-scratch packages that haven't been deleted by the garbage-collector are available at the
 
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/ package storage], scratch builds can be found for a few days at the [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/scratch scratch repository]
 
 
 
== Building packages on the PowerPC koji build system ==
 
 
 
Everyone with a [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Get_a_Fedora_Account Fedora account] can do at least scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system, [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers package maintainers] who can check changes into the git repositories can build updated packages that will later on end up in the distribution.
 
 
 
=== Doing scratch builds ===
 
 
 
After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm
 
ppc-koji build --scratch f17 yourpkg.src.rpm
 
These builds will be removed from koji automatically after a while.
 
 
 
=== 'real' builds ===
 
 
 
'Real' builds will be pulled into the package repositories and into the install images, unless they got replaced by later versions.
 
After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm
 
ppc-koji build f17 "$(fedpkg giturl)"
 
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fedpkg build --target=f17
 
(this works only when you have a symlink from ~/.koji/ppc-config to ~/.koji/config)
 
(currently broken: [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785776 bugzilla 787776] )
 
 
 
== PPC Shell access for debugging ==
 
[[user:dwmw2|David Woodhouse]] ([[fas:dwmw2|dwmw2]]), [[user:jwboyer|Josh Boyer]] ([[fas:jwboyer|jwb]]) or [[user:karsten|Karsten Hopp]] ([[fas:karsten|Kick_]]) may provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send them an e-mail with an request and a public SSH key.
 
 
 
== Documentation ==
 
 
 
== Work needed ==
 
 
 
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/GRUB2|GRUB2]]
 
 
 
=== Bugzilla ===
 
  
 
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&rep_platform=powerpc&rep_platform=ppc64&rep_platform=ppc&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&product=Fedora&classification=Fedora List of currently open PowerPC bugs]
 
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&rep_platform=powerpc&rep_platform=ppc64&rep_platform=ppc&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&product=Fedora&classification=Fedora List of currently open PowerPC bugs]
 
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 ExcludeArch for PowerPC]
 
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 ExcludeArch for PowerPC]
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* [[Architectures/BuildIssues|Power & s390x build issues]]
  
=== [[Architectures/BuildIssues|Known build issues]] ===
 
 
== ppc64p7 subarch ==
 
 
* [[ppc64p7subarch]]
 
  
 
== Links ==
 
== Links ==
* [http://www.ibm.com/chips/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
 
 
* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
 
* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
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* [[Architectures/PowerPC/PPC-hub-serverstatus|Special files and configuration on the PPC hub]]
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* [http://www.ibm.com/systems/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
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* [https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home/wiki/W51a7ffcf4dfd_4b40_9d82_446ebc23c550?lang=en The PowerLinux Community Wiki] <BR>
 
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
 
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
* [http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/ YellowDogLinux support pages] <BR>
 
 
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
 
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
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* [http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/liaae/lcon_Installing_Linux_on_System_p5.htm Installation docs] for IBM Power hardware <BR>
  
  
 
[[Category:Arch-specific SIGs]][[Category:SIGs]]
 
[[Category:Arch-specific SIGs]][[Category:SIGs]]
 
[[Category:Fedora special-interest groups|PowerPC]]
 
[[Category:Fedora special-interest groups|PowerPC]]

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Getting Started with Fedora for Power::
Check out our current development efforts and join the Fedora for Power team on IRC in #fedora-ppc[?] on http://freenode.net

PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group

Members

Stable Release, GPG keys

Fedora 28 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on May 1st, 2018. Please see the release announcement for additional details or download it directly from here.

Fedora for Power uses now primary architectures GPG keys. Check The official Fedora GPG key list for a list of primary/secondary keys per releases.

Release Notes

Supported Architectures

Only 64bit machines (big endian Power5 or newer and little endian Power8 or newer) are supported, 32bit packages are not available anymore in F22 or newer. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest F21 packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore.

Fedora 18 through Fedora 23 also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected. The focus for Fedora 24 and newer is on Power8 or newer hardware and the optimizations for these CPU types are handled through a different mechanism.

Fedora 25 able to be installed also on Mac G5 machine as per https://github.com/masterzorag/G5_ppc64-linux

Due the limited resource and clear preference of the ppc64le architecture in any new developments, it was decided that ppc64 architecture will transfer into a maintenance mode where the new features (eg. Atomic Host compose) we plan for ppc64le won't be added, see email for details.

Previous Releases

You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases.

Build System & Resources

Koji

Rawhide

On October 29, 2016 announcement was made to merge ppc64(le) koji builds of packages with primary koji.

To make a scratch build of package for ppc64 and ppc64le in Fedora rawhide, run:

  koji build --scratch --arch-override=ppc64,ppc64le rawhide yourpkg.src.rpm

PPC Shell access for debugging

Dan Horák (sharkcz) can provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send him an e-mail with a request and a public SSH key. fedora-infra team is also working on providing easier access to a PowerPC VM for debugging build issues. Once we have it ready, we will update this section.

Bugzilla


Links