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== Log ==
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|- id="tApr 28 15:01:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2009-04-28
|| [[#tApr 28 15:01:24|Apr 28 15:01]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:02:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | who is here for the meeting?
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|- id="tApr 28 15:02:44"
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | hi
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|- id="tApr 28 15:03:04"
! style="background-color: #818144" | jni_
| style="color: #818144" | hi
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|- id="tApr 28 15:03:04"
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! style="background-color: #854685" | pravins
| style="color: #854685" | hi
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|- id="tApr 28 15:03:46"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | hi
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | Kaio
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | hi
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | sflanigan
| style="color: #4b904b" | G'day
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|- id="tApr 28 15:07:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
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|- id="tApr 28 15:07:26"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | paragn
| style="color: #4d4d93" | hi
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|- id="tApr 28 15:07:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | sorry - added a few links on the agenda page - you might want to refresh...
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|- id="tApr 28 15:07:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2009-04-28
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|- id="tApr 28 15:13:51"
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|- id="tApr 28 15:15:49"
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|- id="tApr 28 15:18:32"
| colspan="2" | *juhp slaps his head
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|- id="tApr 28 15:18:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | silly me talking on the wrong channel... ah dear
|| [[#tApr 28 15:18:47|Apr 28 15:18]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:19:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | let me paste from #fedora-i18n
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  so first topic is f11
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  tagoh3: how do you think about the wqy bug?
|| [[#tApr 28 15:19:15|Apr 28 15:19]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=99342
|| [[#tApr 28 15:19:15|Apr 28 15:19]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;tagoh3&gt; juhp: hmm, need to understand his requirements
|| [[#tApr 28 15:19:15|Apr 28 15:19]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;juhp&gt; I think fangqq pushed the update to bodhi so that might be enough assuming this fixes the problem
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;tagoh3&gt; sure. will test that
|| [[#tApr 28 15:19:15|Apr 28 15:19]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;juhp&gt; cool
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  I will try too
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  candyz0416 candyz
|| [[#tApr 28 15:19:15|Apr 28 15:19]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  krishnababu Kaio
|| [[#tApr 28 15:19:15|Apr 28 15:19]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  dychen_, Kaio, phuang, jni_: if you have a chance to test also that would be be appreciated
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;Kaio&gt; juhp: no prob
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;phuang&gt; ok
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;dychen_&gt; juhp: sure
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;juhp&gt; if you have feedback you can also put it in https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/wqy-bitmap-fonts-0.9.9-10.fc11
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  great - thanks :)
|| [[#tApr 28 15:19:15|Apr 28 15:19]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  there are some ibus blockers in modified it would be good to test those too and close them out if they are ok
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  I think I tested the evo bug and it looked ok to me - though I am not an evo user
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  paragn: could you check bug 497265
|| [[#tApr 28 15:19:15|Apr 28 15:19]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;paragn&gt; ok
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;juhp&gt; paragn: there was also a report from aalam that Nepali input does not work in KDE (ie ne desktop)
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  which I reproduced
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  phuang: any idea?
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  I could not activate ibus
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  even with mouse
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;phuang&gt; ic
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" |  I think it is because xim must specify the support locale when init the xim server
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | * tagoh3 wonders why we are talking on two channels
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;paragn&gt; juhp, I have successfully tested bug 497265
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;juhp&gt; tagoh3: oops
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | &lt;phuang&gt; we can not hardcode all locales in xim server
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | sigh
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|- id="tApr 28 15:19:49"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | buggbot
| style="color: #97974f" | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=497265 medium, low, ---, phuang, MODIFIED, [mai_IN] Maithili language name is not listed in input method selection
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|- id="tApr 28 15:20:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | paragn: ok
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|- id="tApr 28 15:20:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | paragn: then please close
|| [[#tApr 28 15:20:19|Apr 28 15:20]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:20:36"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | For this problem, I think we just need add the locale name of mai_IN.
|| [[#tApr 28 15:20:36|Apr 28 15:20]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:20:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: what does scim do then?
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|- id="tApr 28 15:20:50"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp, I need check the code
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|- id="tApr 28 15:20:58"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: nepali?
|| [[#tApr 28 15:20:58|Apr 28 15:20]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:21:25"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | phuang: it's really *hard* to list all of them. but we have to do.
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|- id="tApr 28 15:21:34"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | yeah
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|- id="tApr 28 15:21:34"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | paragn
| style="color: #4d4d93" | ok
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|- id="tApr 28 15:22:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: could you test bug 490143 (gnome-keyring), please?
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|- id="tApr 28 15:22:19"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | buggbot
| style="color: #97974f" | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=490143 medium, low, ---, phuang, MODIFIED, ibus issue with gnome-keyring
|| [[#tApr 28 15:22:19|Apr 28 15:22]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:23:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok let's move on
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|- id="tApr 28 15:23:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_l18n_Beat
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|- id="tApr 28 15:23:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hah
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|- id="tApr 28 15:24:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I became L hmmm
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|- id="tApr 28 15:24:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | need to do something about that
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|- id="tApr 28 15:25:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm
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|- id="tApr 28 15:25:07"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | Just check scim, it got the locale name list from enabled engines
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|- id="tApr 28 15:25:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: aha
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|- id="tApr 28 15:25:27"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | But it still has problem.
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|- id="tApr 28 15:25:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
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|- id="tApr 28 15:25:47"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | If you just installed anthy, you can not use XIM in en locale. I think
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|- id="tApr 28 15:25:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: you still planning to do a qtimm btw at some point?
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|- id="tApr 28 15:26:09"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp, yeah
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|- id="tApr 28 15:26:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: without restart... well guess it is not really a regression compared to scim
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|- id="tApr 28 15:27:14"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | Properly, maybe we could file a bug against XIM, to let the it support locale name "*"
|| [[#tApr 28 15:27:14|Apr 28 15:27]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:27:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: guess it is not possible to update the list after xim server has started?
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|- id="tApr 28 15:27:26"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | right
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|- id="tApr 28 15:27:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: aha - libX11?
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|- id="tApr 28 15:27:58"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | maybe in libX11 or other X library
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|- id="tApr 28 15:28:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: or is there another way?
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|- id="tApr 28 15:28:34"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | tagoh3, Are you familiar with it?
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|- id="tApr 28 15:28:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | anyway back to the RelNotes
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|- id="tApr 28 15:29:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I'd really like to move the L10n stuff elsewhere into a separate beat maybe for f12
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|- id="tApr 28 15:29:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | it just seems to sit there in the way and I don't really think we should maintain that stuff
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|- id="tApr 28 15:29:59"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | juhp: well, need-restart isn't a limitation of XIM itself actually. depends on the implementation.
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|- id="tApr 28 15:30:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | little hard though since there is some overlap
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|- id="tApr 28 15:30:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: so would be good to improve that then
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | tagoh3, I would like to add a wildcard locale name "*", to let the xserver support all locales.
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|- id="tApr 28 15:31:42"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | tagoh3, You think where we should make some modification? In the XIM server, or X related libraries
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | well I think the relnotes don't look too bad
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|- id="tApr 28 15:32:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone thing anything should be added/changed/removed?
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|- id="tApr 28 15:32:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: perhaps we should list the hotkeys for different languages
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|- id="tApr 28 15:32:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | we used to have a table for that for scim
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|- id="tApr 28 15:33:00"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | phuang: hmm, well, such usage is actually brought up recently and which isn't unexpected way when spec was created.
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|- id="tApr 28 15:33:45"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | phuang: and '*' may gets some trouble when their locale isn't really supported by IM but in XKB.
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | mm
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | tagoh3, So you suggest we continue using hardcode locale list
|| [[#tApr 28 15:34:45|Apr 28 15:34]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:35:05"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | that would be sure thing
|| [[#tApr 28 15:35:05|Apr 28 15:35]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:35:15"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | ic
|| [[#tApr 28 15:35:15|Apr 28 15:35]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:35:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | safe yeah, hmm
|| [[#tApr 28 15:35:22|Apr 28 15:35]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:35:52"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | better improving XIM server side to update on demand.
|| [[#tApr 28 15:35:52|Apr 28 15:35]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:35:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: how about adding the current locale at startup if im is requested
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp, ok
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang: it can probably be a f11 update... assuming no major lang omissions
|| [[#tApr 28 15:38:46|Apr 28 15:38]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:39:01"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp, yeah
|| [[#tApr 28 15:39:01|Apr 28 15:39]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:39:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | error: File /home/petersen/fedora/ibus/ibus/devel/ibus-1.1.0.20090423.tar.gz: No such file or directory
|| [[#tApr 28 15:39:02|Apr 28 15:39]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:39:24"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp, ?
|| [[#tApr 28 15:39:24|Apr 28 15:39]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:39:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | perhaps something wrong here?
|| [[#tApr 28 15:39:39|Apr 28 15:39]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:40:20"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | phuang
| style="color: #42427e" | seems the sources file is not updated
|| [[#tApr 28 15:40:20|Apr 28 15:40]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:40:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | right
|| [[#tApr 28 15:40:28|Apr 28 15:40]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:40:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | # Fedora QA Test Event
|| [[#tApr 28 15:40:47|Apr 28 15:40]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:41:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Days:IBus
|| [[#tApr 28 15:41:03|Apr 28 15:41]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:42:05"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | event is confirmed for 2009-05-14
|| [[#tApr 28 15:42:05|Apr 28 15:42]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:42:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | which is probably Friday in Asia-Pacific
|| [[#tApr 28 15:42:45|Apr 28 15:42]]
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|- id="tApr 28 15:44:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | so we need to clear up the test cases a bit more and work with fedora-qa
|| [[#tApr 28 15:44:25|Apr 28 15:44]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:44:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/F11
|| [[#tApr 28 15:44:27|Apr 28 15:44]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:45:34"
| colspan="2" | *juhp fixes the feature link
|| [[#tApr 28 15:45:34|Apr 28 15:45]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:47:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | there is still a little time but guess we need to finish that by next week
|| [[#tApr 28 15:47:21|Apr 28 15:47]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:47:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | perhaps we can have a meeting on #fedora-i18n next week to finalise the testcases and polish
|| [[#tApr 28 15:47:56|Apr 28 15:47]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:49:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | no comments?
|| [[#tApr 28 15:49:16|Apr 28 15:49]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:49:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok let's move into the open time
|| [[#tApr 28 15:49:37|Apr 28 15:49]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:49:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | # AOB
|| [[#tApr 28 15:49:45|Apr 28 15:49]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:49:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else for today's meeting?
|| [[#tApr 28 15:49:56|Apr 28 15:49]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:51:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok then thanks everyone for the meeting!
|| [[#tApr 28 15:51:49|Apr 28 15:51]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:52:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | next meeting will be two weeks time
|| [[#tApr 28 15:52:02|Apr 28 15:52]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:53:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | # (meeting closed)
|| [[#tApr 28 15:53:28|Apr 28 15:53]]
|- id="tApr 28 15:55:39"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | thanks all
|| [[#tApr 28 15:55:39|Apr 28 15:55]]
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  • Open discussion

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juhp http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2009-04-28 Apr 28 15:01
juhp who is here for the meeting? Apr 28 15:02
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phuang hi Apr 28 15:02
jni_ hi Apr 28 15:03
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pravins hi Apr 28 15:03
tagoh3 hi Apr 28 15:03
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Kaio hi Apr 28 15:04
sflanigan G'day Apr 28 15:05
juhp ok Apr 28 15:07
paragn hi Apr 28 15:07
juhp sorry - added a few links on the agenda page - you might want to refresh... Apr 28 15:07
juhp https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2009-04-28 Apr 28 15:07
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*juhp slaps his head Apr 28 15:18
juhp silly me talking on the wrong channel... ah dear Apr 28 15:18
juhp let me paste from #fedora-i18n Apr 28 15:19
juhp so first topic is f11 Apr 28 15:19
juhp tagoh3: how do you think about the wqy bug? Apr 28 15:19
juhp http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=99342 Apr 28 15:19
juhp <tagoh3> juhp: hmm, need to understand his requirements Apr 28 15:19
juhp <juhp> I think fangqq pushed the update to bodhi so that might be enough assuming this fixes the problem Apr 28 15:19
juhp <tagoh3> sure. will test that Apr 28 15:19
juhp <juhp> cool Apr 28 15:19
juhp I will try too Apr 28 15:19
juhp candyz0416 candyz Apr 28 15:19
juhp krishnababu Kaio Apr 28 15:19
juhp dychen_, Kaio, phuang, jni_: if you have a chance to test also that would be be appreciated Apr 28 15:19
juhp <Kaio> juhp: no prob Apr 28 15:19
juhp <phuang> ok Apr 28 15:19
juhp <dychen_> juhp: sure Apr 28 15:19
juhp <juhp> if you have feedback you can also put it in https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/wqy-bitmap-fonts-0.9.9-10.fc11 Apr 28 15:19
juhp great - thanks :) Apr 28 15:19
juhp there are some ibus blockers in modified it would be good to test those too and close them out if they are ok Apr 28 15:19
juhp I think I tested the evo bug and it looked ok to me - though I am not an evo user Apr 28 15:19
juhp paragn: could you check bug 497265 Apr 28 15:19
juhp <paragn> ok Apr 28 15:19
juhp <juhp> paragn: there was also a report from aalam that Nepali input does not work in KDE (ie ne desktop) Apr 28 15:19
juhp which I reproduced Apr 28 15:19
juhp phuang: any idea? Apr 28 15:19
juhp I could not activate ibus Apr 28 15:19
juhp even with mouse Apr 28 15:19
juhp <phuang> ic Apr 28 15:19
juhp I think it is because xim must specify the support locale when init the xim server Apr 28 15:19
juhp * tagoh3 wonders why we are talking on two channels Apr 28 15:19
juhp <paragn> juhp, I have successfully tested bug 497265 Apr 28 15:19
juhp <juhp> tagoh3: oops Apr 28 15:19
juhp <phuang> we can not hardcode all locales in xim server Apr 28 15:19
juhp sigh Apr 28 15:19
buggbot Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=497265 medium, low, ---, phuang, MODIFIED, [mai_IN] Maithili language name is not listed in input method selection Apr 28 15:19
juhp paragn: ok Apr 28 15:20
juhp paragn: then please close Apr 28 15:20
phuang For this problem, I think we just need add the locale name of mai_IN. Apr 28 15:20
juhp phuang: what does scim do then? Apr 28 15:20
phuang juhp, I need check the code Apr 28 15:20
juhp phuang: nepali? Apr 28 15:20
tagoh3 phuang: it's really *hard* to list all of them. but we have to do. Apr 28 15:21
phuang yeah Apr 28 15:21
paragn ok Apr 28 15:21
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juhp tagoh3: could you test bug 490143 (gnome-keyring), please? Apr 28 15:22
buggbot Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=490143 medium, low, ---, phuang, MODIFIED, ibus issue with gnome-keyring Apr 28 15:22
juhp ok let's move on Apr 28 15:23
juhp https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_l18n_Beat Apr 28 15:23
juhp hah Apr 28 15:23
juhp I became L hmmm Apr 28 15:24
juhp need to do something about that Apr 28 15:24
juhp hmm Apr 28 15:25
phuang Just check scim, it got the locale name list from enabled engines Apr 28 15:25
juhp phuang: aha Apr 28 15:25
phuang But it still has problem. Apr 28 15:25
juhp ok Apr 28 15:25
phuang If you just installed anthy, you can not use XIM in en locale. I think Apr 28 15:25
juhp phuang: you still planning to do a qtimm btw at some point? Apr 28 15:25
phuang juhp, yeah Apr 28 15:26
juhp phuang: without restart... well guess it is not really a regression compared to scim Apr 28 15:26
phuang Properly, maybe we could file a bug against XIM, to let the it support locale name "*" Apr 28 15:27
juhp phuang: guess it is not possible to update the list after xim server has started? Apr 28 15:27
phuang right Apr 28 15:27
juhp phuang: aha - libX11? Apr 28 15:27
phuang maybe in libX11 or other X library Apr 28 15:27
juhp tagoh3: or is there another way? Apr 28 15:28
phuang tagoh3, Are you familiar with it? Apr 28 15:28
juhp anyway back to the RelNotes Apr 28 15:28
juhp I'd really like to move the L10n stuff elsewhere into a separate beat maybe for f12 Apr 28 15:29
juhp it just seems to sit there in the way and I don't really think we should maintain that stuff Apr 28 15:29
tagoh3 juhp: well, need-restart isn't a limitation of XIM itself actually. depends on the implementation. Apr 28 15:29
juhp little hard though since there is some overlap Apr 28 15:30
juhp tagoh3: so would be good to improve that then Apr 28 15:30
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phuang tagoh3, I would like to add a wildcard locale name "*", to let the xserver support all locales. Apr 28 15:31
phuang tagoh3, You think where we should make some modification? In the XIM server, or X related libraries Apr 28 15:31
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juhp well I think the relnotes don't look too bad Apr 28 15:31
juhp anyone thing anything should be added/changed/removed? Apr 28 15:32
juhp phuang: perhaps we should list the hotkeys for different languages Apr 28 15:32
juhp we used to have a table for that for scim Apr 28 15:32
tagoh3 phuang: hmm, well, such usage is actually brought up recently and which isn't unexpected way when spec was created. Apr 28 15:33
tagoh3 phuang: and '*' may gets some trouble when their locale isn't really supported by IM but in XKB. Apr 28 15:33
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juhp mm Apr 28 15:34
phuang tagoh3, So you suggest we continue using hardcode locale list Apr 28 15:34
tagoh3 that would be sure thing Apr 28 15:35
phuang ic Apr 28 15:35
juhp safe yeah, hmm Apr 28 15:35
tagoh3 better improving XIM server side to update on demand. Apr 28 15:35
juhp phuang: how about adding the current locale at startup if im is requested Apr 28 15:35
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phuang juhp, ok Apr 28 15:36
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juhp phuang: it can probably be a f11 update... assuming no major lang omissions Apr 28 15:38
phuang juhp, yeah Apr 28 15:39
juhp error: File /home/petersen/fedora/ibus/ibus/devel/ibus-1.1.0.20090423.tar.gz: No such file or directory Apr 28 15:39
phuang juhp, ? Apr 28 15:39
juhp perhaps something wrong here? Apr 28 15:39
phuang seems the sources file is not updated Apr 28 15:40
juhp right Apr 28 15:40
juhp # Fedora QA Test Event Apr 28 15:40
juhp https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Days:IBus Apr 28 15:41
juhp event is confirmed for 2009-05-14 Apr 28 15:42
juhp which is probably Friday in Asia-Pacific Apr 28 15:42
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juhp so we need to clear up the test cases a bit more and work with fedora-qa Apr 28 15:44
juhp https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/F11 Apr 28 15:44
*juhp fixes the feature link Apr 28 15:45
juhp there is still a little time but guess we need to finish that by next week Apr 28 15:47
juhp perhaps we can have a meeting on #fedora-i18n next week to finalise the testcases and polish Apr 28 15:47
juhp no comments? Apr 28 15:49
juhp ok let's move into the open time Apr 28 15:49
juhp # AOB Apr 28 15:49
juhp anything else for today's meeting? Apr 28 15:49
juhp ok then thanks everyone for the meeting! Apr 28 15:51
juhp next meeting will be two weeks time Apr 28 15:52
juhp # (meeting closed) Apr 28 15:53
tagoh3 thanks all Apr 28 15:55

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