QA/Meetings/20120213

Agenda

• Previous meeting follow-up
• Upcoming QA events
• AutoQA update
• Open floor

Previous meeting follow-up

• adamw successfully co-ordinated with dgilmore to get TC2 rolled

Upcoming QA events

• RC1 scheduled for this week, see open blockers

AutoQA update

• f17 anaconda changes have broken rats_install, hongqing is working to fix it
• kparal created a Config class in autoqa to avoid excessive config file parsing
• 'ignored builds' now treated as pass rather than fail to avoid excessively high failure counts and reports
• tflink fixed a bug that caused some tests to misbehave at staging
• resultsdb deployment to production planned for next autoqa release, which is coming ASAP

Action items

• kparal to check with releng on the status of daily installer image builds for RATS testing

IRC Log

adamw	#startmeeting Fedora QA meeting	16:00
zodbot	Meeting started Mon Feb 13 16:00:09 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	16:00
zodbot	Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.	16:00
adamw	#meetingname fedora-qa	16:00
zodbot	The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'	16:00
adamw	#topic roll call	16:00
adamw	morning folks, who's here for some awesome meetage?	16:00
* pschindl is here		16:00
* j_dulaney waves		16:00
* jskladan likes his dinner-meeting :)		16:01
* mkrizek is present		16:01
* tflink is here		16:01
j_dulaney	.fire tflink	16:01
zodbot	adamw fires tflink	16:01
kparal	lol	16:01
tflink	huh?	16:01
adamw	j_dulaney: I like it!	16:01
adamw	jskladan: i too enjoy meeting dinner	16:02
j_dulaney	adamw: Trying to make your life easier	16:02
tflink	so j_dulaney got zodbot to control adamw and fire me? That's a new one	16:02
adamw	lemme try it	16:02
adamw	.fire j_dulaney	16:02
zodbot	adamw fires j_dulaney	16:02
adamw	you're hired!	16:02
j_dulaney	LOL	16:03
adamw	#chair kparal tflink j_dulaney	16:03
zodbot	Current chairs: adamw j_dulaney kparal tflink	16:03
adamw	alrighty	16:03
kparal	let's give zodbot a chair as well so that it can fire at will :)	16:03
adamw	hehe	16:04
adamw	#topic previous meeting follow-up	16:04
adamw	so just one lonely little action item from last week..	16:04
adamw	#info "adamw to co-ordinate with dgilmore on getting lorax updated and a new compose done" - done, TC2 was composed, and promptly exploded due to systemd.	16:04
adamw	i can't see any other big issues from last week that need following up on	16:05
adamw	anyone else?	16:05
* maxamillion is here .... late again, but here		16:05
adamw	.fire maxamillion	16:06
zodbot	adamw fires maxamillion	16:06
* adamw giggles like a schoolchild		16:06
maxamillion	ahhh!!!!	16:06
* maxamillion stops, drops, and rolls		16:06
adamw	yes. it's AUTOMATED now	16:06
* j_dulaney was running with the Devil down in Georgia		16:06
maxamillion	@headdesk	16:06
fedbot	http://www.math.vt.edu/people/jbwillia/computer.gif	16:06
j_dulaney	Last week, that is	16:06
adamw	how is the devil?	16:06
maxamillion	:)	16:06
maxamillion	also ... for good measure ....	16:07
maxamillion	@gentoo	16:07
fedbot	http://funroll-loops.info	16:07
maxamillion	:D	16:07
j_dulaney	adamw: He married my cousin	16:07
maxamillion	ok, I'm done making a mockery of hte meeting	16:07
maxamillion	the*	16:07
adamw	maxamillion: i only just got started!	16:07
maxamillion	rocking .... it has been injected	16:07
adamw	or, to put it in craig ferguson terms: that's what I do every week!	16:07
* maxamillion prepares for imgur and 9gag links to roll in		16:07
adamw	alrighty	16:08
adamw	#topic upcoming QA events	16:08
adamw	so, we're scheduled to roll RC1 this week	16:08
maxamillion	wooo!!!!	16:08
j_dulaney	Yay!	16:08
adamw	there's six open blockers, but that list looks manageable	16:09
tflink	we still don't have 17 in bz	16:09
j_dulaney	Does TC2 have the /usr move?	16:09
adamw	#info RC1 scheduled for this week, open blockers at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers	16:09
maxamillion	did the SELinux denail of login get marked as a blocker? ... I can't remember	16:09
adamw	j_dulaney: yes, and also a giant bug with systemd/selinux	16:09
tflink	unless it's been done since I checked last night	16:09
adamw	maxamillion: yes it is	16:09
adamw	tflink: i will bug robyn about that, she said she'd make it happen	16:09
maxamillion	adamw: rgr	16:09
j_dulaney	adamw: Lack of f17 in bugzilla is likely to be making the number of blocker bugs artificially low	16:09
tflink	j_dulaney: I doubt it. I think most people who are testing pre-alpha can figure out that rawhide == 17 if there's no 17	16:10
adamw	j_dulaney: i don't *think* so, at this point in testing most blockers come from active QA members' testing of the TCs, and we're on top of those reports	16:10
j_dulaney	adamw: Oddly, running TC2 on a VM last night/this morning did not hit any major bugs except the kernel CPU bug	16:10
adamw	honestly, no-one goes through *every* bug filed against a release to check if it ought to be a blocker anyway, it has to be proposed by the filer or raised through the matrices or the test list or something to get on there	16:11
j_dulaney	Which, I only hit with LXDE	16:11
adamw	j_dulaney: well, everyone else is hitting http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=788829	16:11
adamw	if you disable SELinux you'd miss it	16:11
j_dulaney	adamw: I did a default install from the DVD image in a VM, the only change being to go with LXDE instead of Gnome	16:12
adamw	anyhoo, yeah, looking at that list of blockers we ought to be able to clear them	16:12
maxamillion	j_dulaney: and on a fresh reboot you didn't have any issues logging in? with SELinux enabled?	16:13
maxamillion	enabled/enforcing	16:13
j_dulaney	maxamillion: Not a one	16:13
maxamillion	huh	16:13
adamw	i'm not sure it's worth kicking that horse, we know there _is_ a bug there and dwalsh and mezcalero are aware of it and fixing	16:13
j_dulaney	This is with TC2 download via wget around 2AM	16:13
maxamillion	adamw: yeah, fair	16:13
adamw	if j_dulaney didn't hit it it's lucky for him :)	16:14
maxamillion	+1	16:14
* j_dulaney is wondering how		16:14
maxamillion	j_dulaney: we're going to vegas!!!!	16:14
maxamillion	>.>	16:14
adamw	eddies in the space-time continuum	16:14
adamw	so, no other major upcoming events, of course there'll be a blocker review on friday	16:14
j_dulaney	Eddy's in the space-time continuum? Why is he there?	16:15
adamw	j_dulaney: he's looking for tea	16:15
j_dulaney	I thought he was with Zaphod	16:15
adamw	looks like we don't have any test days till early march	16:16
adamw	though i still have to crowbar the x test week in there somewhere	16:16
adamw	so, anyone have any concerns about 17 tc/rc or the schedule before moving on to autoqa?	16:16
adamw	*crickets*	16:17
adamw	excellent.	16:17
adamw	#topic autoqa update	16:18
adamw	kparal: any big news here?	16:18
kparal	just small news - we found out that changes in f17's anaconda were not working with rats_install	16:18
kparal	so hongqing is working on that, it should be ready this week I believe	16:19
adamw	#info f17 anaconda changes have broken rats_install, hongqing is working to fix it	16:19
kparal	(I am talking about the initrd/squasfs.img change)	16:19
adamw	ok	16:19
adamw	are you clearer on the status of rats in general now? what exactly it's capable of at present?	16:19
kparal	it that fix hongqing posted works well, it installs automatically Fedora from kickstart	16:20
maxamillion	oooo, swank	16:20
kparal	I have to check that the daily composes are available	16:20
kparal	so that we can watch for them and trigger daily tests	16:21
j_dulaney	kparal: Do the nightlies?	16:21
kparal	I need kernel+initrd+squashfs composes	16:21
kparal	not live images	16:21
adamw	kparal: that would definitely be great. can i give you an action item on that one?	16:22
kparal	sure	16:22
kparal	I have it on my todo list anyway	16:22
adamw	#action kparal to check with releng on the status of daily installer image builds for RATS testing	16:22
kparal	ok, second change, I pushed a patch that creates Config class in autoqa, so that all our libraries don't have to parse all the configuration files again and again	16:23
kparal	progress!	16:23
adamw	#info kparal created a Config class in autoqa to avoid excessive config file parsing	16:23
kparal	and jskladan pushed a change in depcheck behavior that marks ignored builds as passed instead of failed	16:24
kparal	that means we will not report failed tests as often in bodhi when there is no real reason to report it as failed	16:24
* jskladan likes that green check marks ...		16:24
j_dulaney	kparal: Why not get them to say ignored but otherwise treat as passed?	16:25
kparal	don't ask me what 'ignored builds' are, btw :)	16:25
adamw	oh hey, i'm glad that drive-by comment produced useful result =)	16:25
kparal	j_dulaney: that's basically it	16:25
adamw	#info 'ignored builds' now treated as pass rather than fail to avoid excessively high failure counts and reports	16:25
kparal	good wording, thanks	16:25
tflink	kparal: IIRC, they're builds that were dropped out of the yum transaction during depcheck but didn't explicitly fail	16:25
maxamillion	w00t!	16:25
maxamillion	less email	16:26
jskladan	j_dulaney: there still is info, that the build is "ignored" we just don't fail tests because of it	16:26
kparal	and tflink fixed a bug in mock_fedorainfra	16:26
kparal	that caused some of our tests to misbehave at staging	16:26
adamw	#info tflink fixed a bug that caused some tests to misbehave at staging	16:27
adamw	sounds like solid progress	16:27
j_dulaney	Righteo	16:27
kparal	what did I forgot?	16:27
kparal	*forget	16:27
adamw	when are we planning to announce resultsdb outside of the autoqa list?	16:27
j_dulaney	kparal: The sink	16:27
kparal	->jskladan	16:27
jskladan	*shrugs* I'd announce it once it's on production	16:28
kparal	j_dulaney: english idioms are tough, careful :)	16:28
kparal	but I know this one :)	16:28
adamw	jskladan: cool, when is that planned?	16:28
jskladan	I guess with next autoqa release	16:29
jskladan	which is... (kparal, help me out pls)	16:29
kparal	asap	16:29
adamw	okely dokely	16:29
j_dulaney	kparal: Good, since I don't think I could explain it	16:29
jskladan	adamw: that ^^	16:29
jskladan	:)	16:29
adamw	#info resultsdb deployment to production planned for next autoqa release, which is coming ASAP	16:29
j_dulaney	Which probably means post F17	16:30
kparal	'once it is done' might be better :)	16:30
kparal	I'm waiting for rats_install basically	16:30
kparal	after that I would like to release	16:30
adamw	okay.	16:30
* jskladan thinks in terms like "never" or "on 31st of February"		16:30
kparal	the second sounds better	16:30
adamw	this is software. that's what ASAP *means*.	16:30
* j_dulaney should sleep more		16:31
adamw	alrighty, guess that's all for autoqa	16:31
adamw	thanks mad scientists	16:31
adamw	#topic open floor	16:32
adamw	so i have a quick one here - just wanted to check with j_dulaney, are you okay on the test day front? no assistance required?	16:32
adamw	i did forward you a potential new test day last week while you were riding with the red fiery guy	16:32
j_dulaney	adamw: Now that my travels are over, I'll be able to handle it	16:32
j_dulaney	Hmm	16:33
* j_dulaney looks		16:33
j_dulaney	adamw: What was it, exactly?	16:33
adamw	j_dulaney: subject "Re: Request for testers of dnssec-trigger (now in rawhide)"	16:34
j_dulaney	adamw: Ah	16:36
* j_dulaney saw that, and it pinged his interest		16:36
adamw	okey dokey.	16:37
adamw	just let me know if you need help with anything, as always	16:37
adamw	anything else for open floor, anyone?	16:37
j_dulaney	Indeed	16:37
* j_dulaney is having Beefy Miracles for lunch		16:37
j_dulaney	With bacon	16:37
* maxamillion makes really bad fake cricket noises		16:38
adamw	.fire maxamillion	16:39
zodbot	adamw fires maxamillion	16:39
adamw	bad cricket noises are a firing offence!	16:39
* j_dulaney makes fake fart sounds with his armpit		16:39
* jskladan thinks, that zodbot is becoming too smart		16:39
Cerlyn	That script should tell you how much your workload increases every time you fire someone, as well as the cost of hiring a replacement	16:39
* maxamillion rolls round once more to put out the flames		16:40
jskladan	"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."	16:40
j_dulaney	jskladan has been reading too much Dune	16:40
maxamillion	I'm going to have to start showing up to these meetings with fire retardant(sp?) clothing	16:40
adamw	Cerlyn: "not at all", and "one shiny nickel"	16:40
maxamillion	or a super soaker	16:41
maxamillion	which ever ....	16:41
* j_dulaney throws gasoline on maxamillion		16:41
adamw	ooh, super soakers are mandatory for all meeting attendees from now on	16:41
* j_dulaney uses a super-soaker filled with gas on maxamillion		16:42
maxamillion	ahhhh!!!!!	16:42
adamw	alrighty, i guess this terribly important discussion means we're done!	16:42
maxamillion	rgr, laters all :)	16:42
adamw	thanks for coming everyone	16:42
adamw	speak now or forever hold your super soaker	16:43
maxamillion	thanks for hosting	16:43
* jskladan should find his Max-D then		16:43
adamw	#endmeeting	16:43

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.8 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!