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== Fedora 17 Beta status ==
== Fedora 17 Beta status ==
* At least TC1 should have landed during the previous week
* Beta TC1 is out and we have a lot of the testing done, blockers are reported
* TC2 to be fired when changes to bootloader behaviour on upgrade are done (or other unforeseen major changes land)


== Test Day report ==
== Test Day report ==
* Two Test Days will have happened, [[Test_Day:2012-03-07|i18n/l10n on 03-07]] and [[Test_Day:2012-03-08_OpenStack_Test_Day|OpenStack on 03-08]]
* [[Test_Day:2012-03-07|Desktop l10n]] and [[Test_Day:2012-03-08_OpenStack_Test_Day|OpenStack]] test days went off last week with apparent success, but none of us managed to be around to watch them
* rbergeron reports the OpenStack test day was mainly developers and lots of doc polishing, but most of the tests got run and some actual bugs were filed


== Upcoming QA events ==
== Upcoming QA events ==
* [[Test_Day:2012-03-13_USB_3.0|USB 3.0 Test Day on 03-13]]
* j_dulaney will ensure announcements are sent out for [[Test_Day:2012-03-13_USB_3.0|USB 3.0 Test Day on 03-13]] and [[Test_Day:2012-03-14|Desktop i18n Test Day on 03-14]]
* [[Test_Day:2012-03-15_Gnome_Shell_and_Extensions|GNOME 3 Test Day on 03-15]]
* kparal has [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2012-March/000392.html announced] [[Test_Day:2012-03-15_Gnome_Shell_and_Extensions|GNOME 3 Test Day on 03-15]]
* Beta blocker review meeting on Friday 03-16


== AutoQA update ==
== AutoQA update ==
* new release delayed due to bugs caught while in staging, it will go ahead once they're fixed


== Open floor ==
== Action items ==
* adamw to co-ordinate with pjones on grub2 update
* j_dulaney to ensure announcements are sent for 2012-03-13 and 2012-03-14 test days


== IRC Log ==
== IRC Log ==
{|
|- id="t15:00:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
|| [[#t15:00:25|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:25"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Meeting started Mon Mar 12 15:00:25 2012 UTC.  The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
|| [[#t15:00:25|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:25"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
|| [[#t15:00:25|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #meetingname fedora-qa
|| [[#t15:00:31|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:31"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
|| [[#t15:00:31|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic roll call
|| [[#t15:00:35|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:43"
| colspan="2" | * brunowolff is here
|| [[#t15:00:43|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:48"
| colspan="2" | * mkrizek present
|| [[#t15:00:48|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | morning folks
|| [[#t15:00:49|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:52"
| colspan="2" | * Cerlyn is here
|| [[#t15:00:52|15:00]]
|- id="t15:01:04"
| colspan="2" | * red_alert peeks in
|| [[#t15:01:04|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:13"
| colspan="2" | * jskladan tips his hat
|| [[#t15:01:13|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:22"
| colspan="2" | * kparal looks for his hat
|| [[#t15:01:22|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:55"
| colspan="2" | * adamw goes for painkillers
|| [[#t15:01:55|15:01]]
|- id="t15:02:02"
| colspan="2" | * satellit_ listening
|| [[#t15:02:02|15:02]]
|- id="t15:02:21"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: does it generally help for meetings?
|| [[#t15:02:21|15:02]]
|- id="t15:02:41"
| colspan="2" | * kparal must try out
|| [[#t15:02:41|15:02]]
|- id="t15:02:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | kparal: oh, no. nothing can take away the pain of meetings.
|| [[#t15:02:44|15:02]]
|- id="t15:02:53"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | except for heavy drinking, naturally.
|| [[#t15:02:53|15:02]]
|- id="t15:03:14"
! style="background-color: #854685" | brunowolff
| style="color: #854685" | Especially after switching to DST.
|| [[#t15:03:14|15:03]]
|- id="t15:03:16"
| colspan="2" | * kparal lives in a great country for this matter
|| [[#t15:03:16|15:03]]
|- id="t15:04:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | alrighty, we're skipping 'previous meeting follow up' as there's nothing to follow up on
|| [[#t15:04:47|15:04]]
|- id="t15:04:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Fedora 17 Beta status
|| [[#t15:04:54|15:04]]
|- id="t15:05:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so we got TC1 done and it's looking pretty okay
|| [[#t15:05:04|15:05]]
|- id="t15:05:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we have a couple of clusters of blockers that have been reviewed at the meeting on friday
|| [[#t15:05:46|15:05]]
|- id="t15:06:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | note that several of them are in 'fix needs testing' state, so we need to be testing those fixes this week
|| [[#t15:06:15|15:06]]
|- id="t15:06:17"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | which was a heroic 2.5 hour effort
|| [[#t15:06:17|15:06]]
|- id="t15:06:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | pfah, a mere drop in the ocena
|| [[#t15:06:28|15:06]]
|- id="t15:06:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | ocean, too
|| [[#t15:06:30|15:06]]
|- id="t15:06:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i was thinking it'd make sense to do a tc2 when we get a fix for the bootloader upgrade stuff...any other feelings on tc2?
|| [[#t15:06:52|15:06]]
|- id="t15:06:52"
! style="background-color: #854685" | brunowolff
| style="color: #854685" | 2.5 hours for a blocker meeting isn't heroic. I've been in 4 hour blocker meetings.
|| [[#t15:06:52|15:06]]
|- id="t15:07:23"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | alright alright, I capitulate
|| [[#t15:07:23|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:32"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: makes sense
|| [[#t15:07:32|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:54"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | I noticed grub2 was modified to fix serial console
|| [[#t15:07:54|15:07]]
|- id="t15:08:00"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | but wasn't pushed to updates
|| [[#t15:08:00|15:08]]
|- id="t15:08:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info tc1 is out and we have a lot of the testing done, blockers are reported
|| [[#t15:08:04|15:08]]
|- id="t15:09:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | kparal: indeed, i'll talk to pjones about that. there's another fix that probably needs to go in there too
|| [[#t15:09:11|15:09]]
|- id="t15:09:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #action adamw to co-ordinate with pjones on grub2 update
|| [[#t15:09:21|15:09]]
|- id="t15:09:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #agreed tc2 to be fired when changes to bootloader behaviour on upgrade are done (or other unforeseen major changes land)
|| [[#t15:09:46|15:09]]
|- id="t15:09:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | morning dulaneynator
|| [[#t15:09:52|15:09]]
|- id="t15:10:12"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | Ahoy
|| [[#t15:10:12|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:30"
| colspan="2" | * jskladan switches to the pirate hat
|| [[#t15:10:30|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:35"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney is glad to be alive post-flu
|| [[#t15:10:35|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:55"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | Didn't y'all know that I'm a pirate?
|| [[#t15:10:55|15:10]]
|- id="t15:12:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we're all running in terror.
|| [[#t15:12:33|15:12]]
|- id="t15:12:41"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic test day report
|| [[#t15:12:41|15:12]]
|- id="t15:12:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | speaking of cap'n dulaney...
|| [[#t15:12:48|15:12]]
|- id="t15:13:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | did you follow the two test days which were up last week? how'd they go?
|| [[#t15:13:02|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair kparal tflink
|| [[#t15:13:04|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:05"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink
|| [[#t15:13:05|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | .fire tflink
|| [[#t15:13:14|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:14"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | adamw fires tflink
|| [[#t15:13:14|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:44"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | I had the flu
|| [[#t15:13:44|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:45"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | tflink
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | cool, that means I can get back to trying to get home, right?
|| [[#t15:13:45|15:13]]
|- id="t15:14:05"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | tflink: enjoying road trip?
|| [[#t15:14:05|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:08"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney spent as much time as possible in bed watching Family Guy
|| [[#t15:14:08|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:13"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | tflink: bring some cool pictures!
|| [[#t15:14:13|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:21"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | tflink
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | kparal: I was until last night
|| [[#t15:14:21|15:14]]
|- id="t15:15:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | hey, i am pretending to run the meeting while really reading av club's review of last night's Family Guy RIGHT NOW!
|| [[#t15:15:31|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | spooky, huh?
|| [[#t15:15:34|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:54"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | today I sent an announcement for thursday's test day
|| [[#t15:15:54|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:56"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | okay, so i admit i didn't manage to be around for much of either test day myself, but from the wiki pages it looks like we got solid activity in both
|| [[#t15:15:56|15:15]]
|- id="t15:16:00"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney actually doesn't remember that much of it
|| [[#t15:16:00|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:07"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | but we still need to send announcement for tomorrow and wednesday
|| [[#t15:16:07|15:16]]
|- id="t15:17:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | best get that done ASAP
|| [[#t15:17:10|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: are you well enough to take care of that?
|| [[#t15:17:33|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:33"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | I'll do it
|| [[#t15:17:33|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks
|| [[#t15:17:35|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #action j_dulaney to ensure announcements are sent for 2012-03-13 and 2012-03-14 test days
|| [[#t15:17:47|15:17]]
|- id="t15:18:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info kparal has announced 2012-03-15 test day
|| [[#t15:18:02|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:18"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney is composing email now
|| [[#t15:18:18|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info desktop l10n and openstack test days went off last week with apparent success, but none of us managed to be around to watch them
|| [[#t15:18:26|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:51"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | Cerlyn
| style="color: #4b904b" | I will be handling the 2012-03-22 test day, but I will not be able to make the IRC meeting that Monday
|| [[#t15:18:51|15:18]]
|- id="t15:19:20"
| colspan="2" | * rbergeron kept a vague on on openstack test day
|| [[#t15:19:20|15:19]]
|- id="t15:19:23"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | rbergeron
| style="color: #4d4d93" | err, a vague eye
|| [[#t15:19:23|15:19]]
|- id="t15:19:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | have you had that checked out? you should have that checked out.
|| [[#t15:19:50|15:19]]
|- id="t15:19:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | Cerlyn: that's fine, don't worry about it
|| [[#t15:19:55|15:19]]
|- id="t15:20:40"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | rbergeron
| style="color: #4d4d93" | vaguely.
|| [[#t15:20:40|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | heh.
|| [[#t15:20:44|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | did it seem to go well?
|| [[#t15:20:52|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:52"
| colspan="2" | * rbergeron gets back to porcelain-worship
|| [[#t15:20:52|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:56"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | rbergeron
| style="color: #4d4d93" | yeah, it did.
|| [[#t15:20:56|15:20]]
|- id="t15:21:15"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | rbergeron
| style="color: #4d4d93" | all the people there were the feature owners, though there were a few folks from outside of that group
|| [[#t15:21:15|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:27"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | rbergeron
| style="color: #4d4d93" | a lot of it was just "oh, i ddn't realize that bit of documentation wasn't clear" and that type of thing.
|| [[#t15:21:27|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:34"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | rbergeron
| style="color: #4d4d93" | but there were a few bugs filed, etc.
|| [[#t15:21:34|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:44"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | Apologies for missing it
|| [[#t15:21:44|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:56"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | rbergeron
| style="color: #4d4d93" | and the page's list of tests got fairly well completed
|| [[#t15:21:56|15:21]]
|- id="t15:22:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | hey, as long as useful stuff happened, it's all good.
|| [[#t15:22:04|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:14"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | rbergeron
| style="color: #4d4d93" | can't ask for much more than that when the openstack stuff is like 400 separate components
|| [[#t15:22:14|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | heh
|| [[#t15:22:35|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic upcoming QA events
|| [[#t15:22:44|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:51"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | tflink
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | even though I was late, I need to be heading out so I have a chance of making it back home before class this afternoon
|| [[#t15:22:51|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | tflink: you're fired AGAIN
|| [[#t15:22:57|15:22]]
|- id="t15:23:09"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | LOL
|| [[#t15:23:09|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:15"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | tflink
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | then it doesn't matter much if I do leave
|| [[#t15:23:15|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:16"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | .fire tflink
|| [[#t15:23:16|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:16"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | adamw fires tflink
|| [[#t15:23:16|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so we pretty much covered this already, but there's three test days coming up this week: USB 3.0 tomorrow, i18n on wednesday, and gnome shell on thursday
|| [[#t15:23:36|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | kparal: i haven't been keeping an eye on the gnome shell one, is everything looking okay there? all prepared?
|| [[#t15:23:50|15:23]]
|- id="t15:24:42"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | adamw: vhumpa claims everything is 95% ready
|| [[#t15:24:42|15:24]]
|- id="t15:24:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | excellent.
|| [[#t15:24:51|15:24]]
|- id="t15:25:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | then of course we have blocker review on friday
|| [[#t15:25:06|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so it's a full week
|| [[#t15:25:12|15:25]]
|- id="t15:26:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else anyone can think of?
|| [[#t15:26:16|15:26]]
|- id="t15:26:35"
| colspan="2" | * brunowolff needs to go to work meeting. I'll probably see you guys again Friday.
|| [[#t15:26:35|15:26]]
|- id="t15:26:42"
| colspan="2" | * pschindl forgot that meeting is one hour earlier
|| [[#t15:26:42|15:26]]
|- id="t15:27:13"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | vhumpa
| style="color: #97974f" | If you guys check it up to see if some obvious functionality is missing in those test cases I'd be glad :)
|| [[#t15:27:13|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:14"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | pschindl and adamw failed
|| [[#t15:27:14|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:31"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | vhumpa
| style="color: #97974f" | But yes, I think it might be about 95% ready
|| [[#t15:27:31|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:47"
| colspan="2" | * kparal notes vhumpa is referring to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-15_Gnome_Shell_and_Extensions
|| [[#t15:27:47|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:59"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | vhumpa
| style="color: #97974f" | Indeed, thanks Kamil
|| [[#t15:27:59|15:27]]
|- id="t15:28:23"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | j_dulaney: i never fail! you merely fail in your understanding of my success
|| [[#t15:28:23|15:28]]
|- id="t15:28:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | vhumpa: roger, thanks
|| [[#t15:28:32|15:28]]
|- id="t15:30:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info there's three test days coming up this week: USB 3.0 tomorrow, i18n on wednesday, and gnome shell on thursday. then blocker review on friday
|| [[#t15:30:22|15:30]]
|- id="t15:30:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic autoqa update
|| [[#t15:30:28|15:30]]
|- id="t15:30:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair kparal
|| [[#t15:30:31|15:30]]
|- id="t15:30:31"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink
|| [[#t15:30:31|15:30]]
|- id="t15:30:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | kparal: take it away!
|| [[#t15:30:34|15:30]]
|- id="t15:30:59"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | so, surprise everyone, new version is still not out
|| [[#t15:30:59|15:30]]
|- id="t15:31:24"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | we caught some problems on our staging server with depcheck and conflicts tests
|| [[#t15:31:24|15:31]]
|- id="t15:31:31"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | jskladan and mkrizek are working on it
|| [[#t15:31:31|15:31]]
|- id="t15:31:51"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | I fixed some fedora infra networking issue in the meatime
|| [[#t15:31:51|15:31]]
|- id="t15:31:59"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | so no news today
|| [[#t15:31:59|15:31]]
|- id="t15:32:02"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | jskladan
| style="color: #9b519b" | yup, I'll be pushing the depcheck quick-fix after the meeting
|| [[#t15:32:02|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:11"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | jskladan: will it fix the issue?
|| [[#t15:32:11|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info the news today is there is no news. we will play some light music instead
|| [[#t15:32:15|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #info new release delayed due to bugs caught while in staging, it will go ahead once they're fixed
|| [[#t15:32:34|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:50"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | jskladan
| style="color: #9b519b" | kparal: nope, since I can't find a reason for it to happen, but it won't crash the tests, just log it and alert :)
|| [[#t15:32:50|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:58"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | you know that actually happened on the BBC one day in like the 1930s or something? the news anchor came on air, announced that there wasn't any news, and cut to some music.
|| [[#t15:32:58|15:32]]
|- id="t15:33:42"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | jskladan
| style="color: #9b519b" | adamw: hehe, today, we'd have at least two disasters and cute kitten at the end..
|| [[#t15:33:42|15:33]]
|- id="t15:33:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | oh yeah, gotta be a cute pet story.
|| [[#t15:33:52|15:33]]
|- id="t15:33:59"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | it's weird there wasn't a dull day since 1930
|| [[#t15:33:59|15:33]]
|- id="t15:34:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i wonder what was in the newspapers
|| [[#t15:34:18|15:34]]
|- id="t15:34:37"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | crosswords?
|| [[#t15:34:37|15:34]]
|- id="t15:35:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | dilbert
|| [[#t15:35:16|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:51"
| colspan="2" | * adamw tries to come up with a 1930s dilbert on the spot, but just hasn't had enough coffee
|| [[#t15:35:51|15:35]]
|- id="t15:37:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so, that's all that happened this week, work on the new version?
|| [[#t15:37:04|15:37]]
|- id="t15:37:54"
! style="background-color: #818144" | kparal
| style="color: #818144" | yep, nothing else. I also upgraded some test clients from f14
|| [[#t15:37:54|15:37]]
|- id="t15:38:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | coolbeans.
|| [[#t15:38:11|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic open floor
|| [[#t15:38:18|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | anything i'm missing?
|| [[#t15:38:22|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:33"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | Your mind?
|| [[#t15:38:33|15:38]]
|- id="t15:39:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | well OBVIOUSLY
|| [[#t15:39:04|15:39]]
|- id="t15:40:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | oh, seems like our IPv6 call didn't have much of a controversial impact, which is a bit surprising
|| [[#t15:40:43|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we did get a list of other potential IPv6 blockers which i'll go through
|| [[#t15:40:52|15:40]]
|- id="t15:41:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | i also got a cryptic message from notting, apparently related to this topic, which made no sense at all to me
|| [[#t15:41:07|15:41]]
|- id="t15:41:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | so i'm hoping he'll expand on that
|| [[#t15:41:14|15:41]]
|- id="t15:41:54"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | IPv6 call?
|| [[#t15:41:54|15:41]]
|- id="t15:44:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | we decided issues that completely break IPv6 are blockers, at the last blocker review meeting.
|| [[#t15:44:20|15:44]]
|- id="t15:44:43"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | Ah
|| [[#t15:44:43|15:44]]
|- id="t15:44:46"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | +1
|| [[#t15:44:46|15:44]]
|- id="t15:45:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | soo....yeah.
|| [[#t15:45:46|15:45]]
|- id="t15:45:53"
| colspan="2" | * adamw leans on fence and spits
|| [[#t15:45:53|15:45]]
|- id="t15:46:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | guess it's time to escape...
|| [[#t15:46:20|15:46]]
|- id="t15:46:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | fuse set for 1 minute
|| [[#t15:46:25|15:46]]
|- id="t15:47:00"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney doesn't see adamw as the farmer type
|| [[#t15:47:00|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | hey, we got a lot of farmers here in BC.
|| [[#t15:47:24|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:27"
| colspan="2" | * j_dulaney is also hoping the weather is nice this weekend so he can get on his tractor and plow the field
|| [[#t15:47:27|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | if you, uh, know what i mean.
|| [[#t15:47:27|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:46"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | In BC, yes, but *you*, now
|| [[#t15:47:46|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:51"
! style="background-color: #488888" | j_dulaney
| style="color: #488888" | s/now/no
|| [[#t15:47:51|15:47]]
|- id="t15:48:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | adamw
| style="color: #407a40" | #endmeeting
|| [[#t15:48:08|15:48]]
|}
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Attendees

Agenda

  • Fedora 17 Beta status
  • Test Day report
  • Upcoming QA events
  • AutoQA update
  • Open floor

Fedora 17 Beta status

  • Beta TC1 is out and we have a lot of the testing done, blockers are reported
  • TC2 to be fired when changes to bootloader behaviour on upgrade are done (or other unforeseen major changes land)

Test Day report

  • Desktop l10n and OpenStack test days went off last week with apparent success, but none of us managed to be around to watch them
  • rbergeron reports the OpenStack test day was mainly developers and lots of doc polishing, but most of the tests got run and some actual bugs were filed

Upcoming QA events

AutoQA update

  • new release delayed due to bugs caught while in staging, it will go ahead once they're fixed

Action items

  • adamw to co-ordinate with pjones on grub2 update
  • j_dulaney to ensure announcements are sent for 2012-03-13 and 2012-03-14 test days

IRC Log

adamw #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting 15:00
zodbot Meeting started Mon Mar 12 15:00:25 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00
zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00
adamw #meetingname fedora-qa 15:00
zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 15:00
adamw #topic roll call 15:00
* brunowolff is here 15:00
* mkrizek present 15:00
adamw morning folks 15:00
* Cerlyn is here 15:00
* red_alert peeks in 15:01
* jskladan tips his hat 15:01
* kparal looks for his hat 15:01
* adamw goes for painkillers 15:01
* satellit_ listening 15:02
kparal adamw: does it generally help for meetings? 15:02
* kparal must try out 15:02
adamw kparal: oh, no. nothing can take away the pain of meetings. 15:02
adamw except for heavy drinking, naturally. 15:02
brunowolff Especially after switching to DST. 15:03
* kparal lives in a great country for this matter 15:03
adamw alrighty, we're skipping 'previous meeting follow up' as there's nothing to follow up on 15:04
adamw #topic Fedora 17 Beta status 15:04
adamw so we got TC1 done and it's looking pretty okay 15:05
adamw we have a couple of clusters of blockers that have been reviewed at the meeting on friday 15:05
adamw note that several of them are in 'fix needs testing' state, so we need to be testing those fixes this week 15:06
kparal which was a heroic 2.5 hour effort 15:06
adamw pfah, a mere drop in the ocena 15:06
adamw ocean, too 15:06
adamw i was thinking it'd make sense to do a tc2 when we get a fix for the bootloader upgrade stuff...any other feelings on tc2? 15:06
brunowolff 2.5 hours for a blocker meeting isn't heroic. I've been in 4 hour blocker meetings. 15:06
kparal alright alright, I capitulate 15:07
kparal adamw: makes sense 15:07
kparal I noticed grub2 was modified to fix serial console 15:07
kparal but wasn't pushed to updates 15:08
adamw #info tc1 is out and we have a lot of the testing done, blockers are reported 15:08
adamw kparal: indeed, i'll talk to pjones about that. there's another fix that probably needs to go in there too 15:09
adamw #action adamw to co-ordinate with pjones on grub2 update 15:09
adamw #agreed tc2 to be fired when changes to bootloader behaviour on upgrade are done (or other unforeseen major changes land) 15:09
adamw morning dulaneynator 15:09
j_dulaney Ahoy 15:10
* jskladan switches to the pirate hat 15:10
* j_dulaney is glad to be alive post-flu 15:10
j_dulaney Didn't y'all know that I'm a pirate? 15:10
adamw we're all running in terror. 15:12
adamw #topic test day report 15:12
adamw speaking of cap'n dulaney... 15:12
adamw did you follow the two test days which were up last week? how'd they go? 15:13
adamw #chair kparal tflink 15:13
zodbot Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink 15:13
adamw .fire tflink 15:13
zodbot adamw fires tflink 15:13
j_dulaney I had the flu 15:13
tflink cool, that means I can get back to trying to get home, right? 15:13
kparal tflink: enjoying road trip? 15:14
* j_dulaney spent as much time as possible in bed watching Family Guy 15:14
kparal tflink: bring some cool pictures! 15:14
tflink kparal: I was until last night 15:14
adamw hey, i am pretending to run the meeting while really reading av club's review of last night's Family Guy RIGHT NOW! 15:15
adamw spooky, huh? 15:15
kparal today I sent an announcement for thursday's test day 15:15
adamw okay, so i admit i didn't manage to be around for much of either test day myself, but from the wiki pages it looks like we got solid activity in both 15:15
* j_dulaney actually doesn't remember that much of it 15:16
kparal but we still need to send announcement for tomorrow and wednesday 15:16
adamw best get that done ASAP 15:17
adamw j_dulaney: are you well enough to take care of that? 15:17
j_dulaney I'll do it 15:17
adamw thanks 15:17
adamw #action j_dulaney to ensure announcements are sent for 2012-03-13 and 2012-03-14 test days 15:17
adamw #info kparal has announced 2012-03-15 test day 15:18
* j_dulaney is composing email now 15:18
adamw #info desktop l10n and openstack test days went off last week with apparent success, but none of us managed to be around to watch them 15:18
Cerlyn I will be handling the 2012-03-22 test day, but I will not be able to make the IRC meeting that Monday 15:18
* rbergeron kept a vague on on openstack test day 15:19
rbergeron err, a vague eye 15:19
adamw have you had that checked out? you should have that checked out. 15:19
adamw Cerlyn: that's fine, don't worry about it 15:19
rbergeron vaguely. 15:20
adamw heh. 15:20
adamw did it seem to go well? 15:20
* rbergeron gets back to porcelain-worship 15:20
rbergeron yeah, it did. 15:20
rbergeron all the people there were the feature owners, though there were a few folks from outside of that group 15:21
rbergeron a lot of it was just "oh, i ddn't realize that bit of documentation wasn't clear" and that type of thing. 15:21
rbergeron but there were a few bugs filed, etc. 15:21
j_dulaney Apologies for missing it 15:21
rbergeron and the page's list of tests got fairly well completed 15:21
adamw hey, as long as useful stuff happened, it's all good. 15:22
rbergeron can't ask for much more than that when the openstack stuff is like 400 separate components 15:22
adamw heh 15:22
adamw #topic upcoming QA events 15:22
tflink even though I was late, I need to be heading out so I have a chance of making it back home before class this afternoon 15:22
adamw tflink: you're fired AGAIN 15:22
j_dulaney LOL 15:23
tflink then it doesn't matter much if I do leave 15:23
j_dulaney .fire tflink 15:23
zodbot adamw fires tflink 15:23
adamw so we pretty much covered this already, but there's three test days coming up this week: USB 3.0 tomorrow, i18n on wednesday, and gnome shell on thursday 15:23
adamw kparal: i haven't been keeping an eye on the gnome shell one, is everything looking okay there? all prepared? 15:23
kparal adamw: vhumpa claims everything is 95% ready 15:24
adamw excellent. 15:24
adamw then of course we have blocker review on friday 15:25
adamw so it's a full week 15:25
adamw anything else anyone can think of? 15:26
* brunowolff needs to go to work meeting. I'll probably see you guys again Friday. 15:26
* pschindl forgot that meeting is one hour earlier 15:26
vhumpa If you guys check it up to see if some obvious functionality is missing in those test cases I'd be glad :) 15:27
j_dulaney pschindl and adamw failed 15:27
vhumpa But yes, I think it might be about 95% ready 15:27
* kparal notes vhumpa is referring to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-15_Gnome_Shell_and_Extensions 15:27
vhumpa Indeed, thanks Kamil 15:27
adamw j_dulaney: i never fail! you merely fail in your understanding of my success 15:28
adamw vhumpa: roger, thanks 15:28
adamw #info there's three test days coming up this week: USB 3.0 tomorrow, i18n on wednesday, and gnome shell on thursday. then blocker review on friday 15:30
adamw #topic autoqa update 15:30
adamw #chair kparal 15:30
zodbot Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink 15:30
adamw kparal: take it away! 15:30
kparal so, surprise everyone, new version is still not out 15:30
kparal we caught some problems on our staging server with depcheck and conflicts tests 15:31
kparal jskladan and mkrizek are working on it 15:31
kparal I fixed some fedora infra networking issue in the meatime 15:31
kparal so no news today 15:31
jskladan yup, I'll be pushing the depcheck quick-fix after the meeting 15:32
kparal jskladan: will it fix the issue? 15:32
adamw #info the news today is there is no news. we will play some light music instead 15:32
adamw #info new release delayed due to bugs caught while in staging, it will go ahead once they're fixed 15:32
jskladan kparal: nope, since I can't find a reason for it to happen, but it won't crash the tests, just log it and alert :) 15:32
adamw you know that actually happened on the BBC one day in like the 1930s or something? the news anchor came on air, announced that there wasn't any news, and cut to some music. 15:32
jskladan adamw: hehe, today, we'd have at least two disasters and cute kitten at the end.. 15:33
adamw oh yeah, gotta be a cute pet story. 15:33
kparal it's weird there wasn't a dull day since 1930 15:33
adamw i wonder what was in the newspapers 15:34
kparal crosswords? 15:34
adamw dilbert 15:35
* adamw tries to come up with a 1930s dilbert on the spot, but just hasn't had enough coffee 15:35
adamw so, that's all that happened this week, work on the new version? 15:37
kparal yep, nothing else. I also upgraded some test clients from f14 15:37
adamw coolbeans. 15:38
adamw #topic open floor 15:38
adamw anything i'm missing? 15:38
j_dulaney Your mind? 15:38
adamw well OBVIOUSLY 15:39
adamw oh, seems like our IPv6 call didn't have much of a controversial impact, which is a bit surprising 15:40
adamw we did get a list of other potential IPv6 blockers which i'll go through 15:40
adamw i also got a cryptic message from notting, apparently related to this topic, which made no sense at all to me 15:41
adamw so i'm hoping he'll expand on that 15:41
j_dulaney IPv6 call? 15:41
adamw we decided issues that completely break IPv6 are blockers, at the last blocker review meeting. 15:44
j_dulaney Ah 15:44
j_dulaney +1 15:44
adamw soo....yeah. 15:45
* adamw leans on fence and spits 15:45
adamw guess it's time to escape... 15:46
adamw fuse set for 1 minute 15:46
* j_dulaney doesn't see adamw as the farmer type 15:47
adamw hey, we got a lot of farmers here in BC. 15:47
* j_dulaney is also hoping the weather is nice this weekend so he can get on his tractor and plow the field 15:47
adamw if you, uh, know what i mean. 15:47
j_dulaney In BC, yes, but *you*, now 15:47
j_dulaney s/now/no 15:47
adamw #endmeeting 15:48

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