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= Attendees =
= Attendees =
* tflink (111)
* kparal (35)
* pschindl (13)
* pwhalen (10)
* spstarr (9)
* zodbot (9)
* ignatenkobrain (8)
* rcheleguini (6)
* drago01 (4)
* Southern_Gentlem (3)
* jskladan (1)


= Agenda =
= Agenda =
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== Followup from previous meeting ==
== Followup from previous meeting ==
 
* ''Roshi to get out test day schedule soon'' - announcement went out, still more work to do
* Roshi to get out test day schedule soon
* ''handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located'' - status unknown, re-listed for follow-up next week
* handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located


== Fedora 20 Planning/Status ==
== Fedora 20 Planning/Status ==
* Alpha freeze was scheduled for the following day, 09-03
* Installation matrices looked OK, considering current issues with Alpha TC2:
** x32 images were DOA
** Several proposed/accepted blockers remained which were causing significant installation issues: [[rhbug:1002806]], [[rhbug:1000927]], [[rhbug:1002055]]


* F20 Alpha TC2 Testing Status
=== ARM status ===
* Arm Hardware Status
* trimslice issue with glibc was fixed, but networking was not working at time of meeting
* Any Major Issues
* Pandaboard did not boot at all
* ARM qemu was working well
* highbank appeared to be working for installs: interactive, autopart, lvm
* beaglebone black was actively being worked on as a priority over the pandaboard


== Open floor ==
== Open floor ==
 
N/A


== Action items ==
== Action items ==
* handsome_pirate to co-ordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located
* kparal or pschindl to pester brno anaconda folks about [[rhbug:1000927]]
* tflink to poke roshi about handling test day tickets


== IRC Log ==
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|- id="t15:00:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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|- id="t15:00:43"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Meeting started Mon Sep  2 15:00:43 2013 UTC.  The chair is tflink. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
|| [[#t15:00:43|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:43"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
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|- id="t15:00:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #meetingname fedora-qa
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|- id="t15:00:45"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
|| [[#t15:00:45|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Roll Call
|| [[#t15:00:49|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:58"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #chair kparal pschindl
|| [[#t15:00:58|15:00]]
|- id="t15:00:58"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Current chairs: kparal pschindl tflink
|| [[#t15:00:58|15:00]]
|- id="t15:01:04"
! style="background-color: #818144" | ignatenkobrain
| style="color: #818144" | .fasinfo ignatenkobrain
|| [[#t15:01:04|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | ignatenkobrain: User: ignatenkobrain, Name: Igor Gnatenko, email: i.gnatenko.brain@gmail.com, Creation: 2013-04-12, IRC Nick: ignatenkobrain, Timezone: Europe/Moscow, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 21B0C5E9, Status: active
|| [[#t15:01:06|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:09"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | ignatenkobrain: Unapproved Groups: ambassadors
|| [[#t15:01:09|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:13"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | ignatenkobrain: Approved Groups: fedorabugs packager cla_done cla_fpca
|| [[#t15:01:13|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:41"
! style="background-color: #818144" | ignatenkobrain
| style="color: #818144" | hi all!
|| [[#t15:01:41|15:01]]
|- id="t15:01:47"
| colspan="2" | * pschindl is here
|| [[#t15:01:47|15:01]]
|- id="t15:02:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | ignatenkobrain, pschindl: welcome, welcome
|| [[#t15:02:22|15:02]]
|- id="t15:03:01"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | tflink: good morning
|| [[#t15:03:01|15:03]]
|- id="t15:03:03"
! style="background-color: #488888" | spstarr
| style="color: #488888" | hullo
|| [[#t15:03:03|15:03]]
|- id="t15:03:21"
! style="background-color: #818144" | ignatenkobrain
| style="color: #818144" | tflink: you too ;)
|| [[#t15:03:21|15:03]]
|- id="t15:04:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | still missing a few folks
|| [[#t15:04:17|15:04]]
|- id="t15:04:19"
| colspan="2" | * jskladan checks in
|| [[#t15:04:19|15:04]]
|- id="t15:05:56"
| colspan="2" | * kparal arrives late
|| [[#t15:05:56|15:05]]
|- id="t15:06:15"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | pschindl: thanks
|| [[#t15:06:15|15:06]]
|- id="t15:06:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | alrighty, lets get started
|| [[#t15:06:54|15:06]]
|- id="t15:07:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Previous Meeting Followup
|| [[#t15:07:09|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info Roshi to get out test day schedule soon
|| [[#t15:07:30|15:07]]
|- id="t15:07:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | I do believe that he started on this
|| [[#t15:07:40|15:07]]
|- id="t15:08:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | but there are several test day tickets which need to be addressed
|| [[#t15:08:09|15:08]]
|- id="t15:08:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info announcement has gone out, still more work to do
|| [[#t15:08:21|15:08]]
|- id="t15:09:10"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located
|| [[#t15:09:10|15:09]]
|- id="t15:09:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | does anyone know more about the status on this?
|| [[#t15:09:34|15:09]]
|- id="t15:10:14"
| colspan="2" | * tflink has no idea if this was done or not, does not see mr. pirate online ATM
|| [[#t15:10:14|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #undo
|| [[#t15:10:32|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:32"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | Removing item from minutes: &lt;MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x27439b50&gt;
|| [[#t15:10:32|15:10]]
|- id="t15:10:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located - UNKNOWN status
|| [[#t15:10:42|15:10]]
|- id="t15:11:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #action handsome_pirate  to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located
|| [[#t15:11:03|15:11]]
|- id="t15:11:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else from last week that I missed?
|| [[#t15:11:16|15:11]]
|- id="t15:12:36"
| colspan="2" | * tflink assumes not
|| [[#t15:12:36|15:12]]
|- id="t15:12:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | moving on
|| [[#t15:12:40|15:12]]
|- id="t15:12:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Fedora 20 Alpha Status/Planning
|| [[#t15:12:54|15:12]]
|- id="t15:13:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_20_Alpha_TC2_Install?rd=Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
|| [[#t15:13:18|15:13]]
|- id="t15:13:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_20_Alpha_TC2_Desktop
|| [[#t15:13:40|15:13]]
|- id="t15:14:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | the installation matrices look OK to me for coverage
|| [[#t15:14:07|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:17"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | 32b images are dead atm
|| [[#t15:14:17|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | still missing quite a few results but I suspect that they've been covered otherwise
|| [[#t15:14:24|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:33"
! style="background-color: #818144" | ignatenkobrain
| style="color: #818144" | .bug 1000889
|| [[#t15:14:33|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:37"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | zodbot
| style="color: #42427e" | ignatenkobrain: Bug 1000889 AttributeError: 'DeviceFormat' object has no attribute 'mount' - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000889
|| [[#t15:14:37|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:40"
! style="background-color: #818144" | ignatenkobrain
| style="color: #818144" | I can't boot netinst
|| [[#t15:14:40|15:14]]
|- id="t15:14:43"
! style="background-color: #818144" | ignatenkobrain
| style="color: #818144" | on x86_64
|| [[#t15:14:43|15:14]]
|- id="t15:15:15"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | ignatenkobrain: already accepted as blocker
|| [[#t15:15:15|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:21"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | we know about it
|| [[#t15:15:21|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:22"
! style="background-color: #818144" | ignatenkobrain
| style="color: #818144" | kparal: ack
|| [[#t15:15:22|15:15]]
|- id="t15:15:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info installation matrices look OK, considering current issues with F20 alpha TC2
|| [[#t15:15:44|15:15]]
|- id="t15:16:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | in retrospect, should have done F20 issues first
|| [[#t15:16:18|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | messy minutes FTW!
|| [[#t15:16:39|15:16]]
|- id="t15:16:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic F20 Issues
|| [[#t15:16:49|15:16]]
|- id="t15:17:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info x32 images are DOA
|| [[#t15:17:04|15:17]]
|- id="t15:17:04"
! style="background-color: #488888" | spstarr
| style="color: #488888" | happy holiday Monday  ;)
|| [[#t15:17:04|15:17]]
|- id="t15:18:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info several proposed/accepted blockers remain which are causing significant installation issues
|| [[#t15:18:07|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:19"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/20/alpha/buglist
|| [[#t15:18:19|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:20"
! style="background-color: #488888" | spstarr
| style="color: #488888" | do we have the runlevel is unknown as a blocker bug posted?
|| [[#t15:18:20|15:18]]
|- id="t15:18:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | spstarr: not that I'm aware of, no
|| [[#t15:18:34|15:18]]
|- id="t15:19:17"
! style="background-color: #488888" | spstarr
| style="color: #488888" | i would propose that as a blocker let me get bug #
|| [[#t15:19:17|15:19]]
|- id="t15:19:31"
! style="background-color: #488888" | spstarr
| style="color: #488888" | cannot start X with graphical environment (KDE or GNOME) with no runlevel
|| [[#t15:19:31|15:19]]
|- id="t15:19:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | it looks like the biggest issues ATM are: 1000927 and 1003230
|| [[#t15:19:49|15:19]]
|- id="t15:20:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | note the _biggest_ part of that - not trying to say that the other bugs aren't issues
|| [[#t15:20:11|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:16"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | and 1002055
|| [[#t15:20:16|15:20]]
|- id="t15:20:39"
! style="background-color: #488888" | spstarr
| style="color: #488888" | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1002806
|| [[#t15:20:39|15:20]]
|- id="t15:21:04"
! style="background-color: #488888" | spstarr
| style="color: #488888" | note i hit this with PXE/ boot.iso
|| [[#t15:21:04|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | from a quick scan, it doesn't look like there's been much movement on any of these
|| [[#t15:21:24|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | 32bit sounds like a huge mess, in general
|| [[#t15:21:47|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | and we freeze tomorrow!
|| [[#t15:21:55|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:58"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | spstarr: let's discuss this one outside of the meeting. but you really need to add how-to-reproduce description
|| [[#t15:21:58|15:21]]
|- id="t15:21:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | fun times
|| [[#t15:21:59|15:21]]
|- id="t15:22:13"
! style="background-color: #488888" | spstarr
| style="color: #488888" | kparal: i will append to bug we can discuss in other channel
|| [[#t15:22:13|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:14"
! style="background-color: #488888" | spstarr
| style="color: #488888" | yes
|| [[#t15:22:14|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:15"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | spstarr: and logs
|| [[#t15:22:15|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | is anyone actively poking devs for a fix on any of the bugs we've listed above?
|| [[#t15:22:45|15:22]]
|- id="t15:22:59"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | the gnome-shell bug seems to be worked on
|| [[#t15:22:59|15:22]]
|- id="t15:23:24"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | there's no development in 1000927
|| [[#t15:23:24|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:31"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | we should raise this in #anaconda
|| [[#t15:23:31|15:23]]
|- id="t15:23:57"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | hmm, neither in 1000889
|| [[#t15:23:57|15:23]]
|- id="t15:24:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | not sure we'll get much out of them today - most of them are US based or probably have gone home
|| [[#t15:24:39|15:24]]
|- id="t15:25:16"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | right
|| [[#t15:25:16|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | sounds like we have a todo list for tomorrow, then
|| [[#t15:25:46|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:49"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | Most of anaconda team has vacation these days
|| [[#t15:25:49|15:25]]
|- id="t15:25:52"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I or pschindl can ask vpodzime to debug 1000927 tomorrow
|| [[#t15:25:52|15:25]]
|- id="t15:26:03"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | kparal: ok
|| [[#t15:26:03|15:26]]
|- id="t15:26:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #action kparal or pschindl to pester brno anaconda folks about 1000927
|| [[#t15:26:17|15:26]]
|- id="t15:26:32"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | roger
|| [[#t15:26:32|15:26]]
|- id="t15:27:00"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I'll pester pschindl who will forward it to Vratislav
|| [[#t15:27:00|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:01"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | I'll be happy to do that :)
|| [[#t15:27:01|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:18"
| colspan="2" | * tflink can pester devs about #1000889 tomorrow
|| [[#t15:27:18|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:27"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | kparal: maybe I'll ask some of our intern to do that :)
|| [[#t15:27:27|15:27]]
|- id="t15:27:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | wow, the levels of delegation we have :-D
|| [[#t15:27:42|15:27]]
|- id="t15:28:19"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | tflink: hopefully they will be online, I heard something about longer vacation, but maybe it was only about Monday
|| [[#t15:28:19|15:28]]
|- id="t15:28:26"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | the more levels the more efficiency, I heard...
|| [[#t15:28:26|15:28]]
|- id="t15:28:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | someone is off for the next week, clumens, I think?
|| [[#t15:28:40|15:28]]
|- id="t15:28:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | i hope it isn't all of them
|| [[#t15:28:52|15:28]]
|- id="t15:29:05"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | 1002055 should be fixed in 3.9.91 which should come in Wednesday
|| [[#t15:29:05|15:29]]
|- id="t15:29:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info 1002055 will hopfully be fixed by mutter-3.9.91 which should come on wednesday
|| [[#t15:29:54|15:29]]
|- id="t15:30:25"
| colspan="2" | * tflink wonders how much more of the gnome stack will come with it, but that is a different question
|| [[#t15:30:25|15:30]]
|- id="t15:30:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | any other huge issues that need driving/annoyance-phasers?
|| [[#t15:30:42|15:30]]
|- id="t15:31:40"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | pschindl: no it won't
|| [[#t15:31:40|15:31]]
|- id="t15:31:43"
! style="background-color: #818144" | ignatenkobrain
| style="color: #818144" | not from me
|| [[#t15:31:43|15:31]]
|- id="t15:31:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | the rest will come up tomorrow or at the blocker meeting on wednesday, I suppose
|| [[#t15:31:44|15:31]]
|- id="t15:32:17"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | pschindl: read comment 23
|| [[#t15:32:17|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:39"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | kparal: &quot;drago01:  pschindl: should be in 3.9.91 which should be released soon (today or tomorrow)&quot; that's what I just read on #fedora-desktop
|| [[#t15:32:39|15:32]]
|- id="t15:32:53"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | pschindl: ah, great news then
|| [[#t15:32:53|15:32]]
|- id="t15:33:33"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | drago01
| style="color: #4b904b" | kparal: fwiw here is the upstream commit https://git.gnome.org/browse/mutter/commit/?id=46f4ea7ed7daf89f
|| [[#t15:33:33|15:33]]
|- id="t15:34:05"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | sweet
|| [[#t15:34:05|15:34]]
|- id="t15:34:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | drago01: i assume that means that there will be no build to test until that's released?
|| [[#t15:34:34|15:34]]
|- id="t15:35:06"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | drago01
| style="color: #4b904b" | tflink: that's an obvious fix imo but I can get you a scratch build if you want that
|| [[#t15:35:06|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:18"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | only issue is 3.9.91 build of Gnome. I'm not sure, if it could go to compose after freeze. But I assume that if we have this blocker ...
|| [[#t15:35:18|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, I was wondering that as well
|| [[#t15:35:39|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:48"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | drago01
| style="color: #4b904b" | tflink: but florian might gets the release done today we could just get 3.9.91
|| [[#t15:35:48|15:35]]
|- id="t15:35:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | not sure we want to pull in an entire gnome release as a blocker
|| [[#t15:35:50|15:35]]
|- id="t15:36:15"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | tflink: it should come the day after tomorrow. And I think it would be great to test it as soon as possible.
|| [[#t15:36:15|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:23"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | tflink: what could possibly go wrong?
|| [[#t15:36:23|15:36]]
|- id="t15:36:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | kparal: that's a scary question :)
|| [[#t15:36:49|15:36]]
|- id="t15:37:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | either way, it sounds like we're waiting on new builds to test that
|| [[#t15:37:12|15:37]]
|- id="t15:37:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | if we're lucky, it'll get done today and we'll be able to avoid the question of whether or not to pull in a new gnome release as a blocker
|| [[#t15:37:43|15:37]]
|- id="t15:38:01"
| colspan="2" | * tflink hasn't been following gnome all that closely, is 3.9.91 a big change?
|| [[#t15:38:01|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | eh, we're getting off into the weeds, will discuss outside meeting
|| [[#t15:38:29|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:36"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | It was told to me that it should come in next few days
|| [[#t15:38:36|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | on to the next topic
|| [[#t15:38:36|15:38]]
|- id="t15:38:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Fedora 20 Alpha ARM devices
|| [[#t15:38:52|15:38]]
|- id="t15:39:04"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | drago01
| style="color: #4b904b" | tflink: .90 -&gt; .91 is going from beta to rc
|| [[#t15:39:04|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | I suspect that there is nobody around to answer the question of which devices actually work now
|| [[#t15:39:15|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | IIRC, there was a possible fix for the trimslice
|| [[#t15:39:29|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:44"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | maybe pwhalen knows?
|| [[#t15:39:44|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:52"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | if he's here
|| [[#t15:39:52|15:39]]
|- id="t15:39:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | he's US based
|| [[#t15:39:52|15:39]]
|- id="t15:40:00"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | sane people don't work on holidays
|| [[#t15:40:00|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | :)
|| [[#t15:40:02|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:15"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Southern_Gentlem
| style="color: #4d4d93" | tflink,  wanna bet
|| [[#t15:40:15|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:26"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | Southern_Gentlem: tflink is US based as well
|| [[#t15:40:26|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:34"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I completely forgot
|| [[#t15:40:34|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | hence the &quot;sane&quot; part
|| [[#t15:40:37|15:40]]
|- id="t15:40:56"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Southern_Gentlem
| style="color: #4d4d93" | work today to go to OLF later
|| [[#t15:40:56|15:40]]
|- id="t15:41:14"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | Southern_Gentlem
| style="color: #4d4d93" | seems sane to me
|| [[#t15:41:14|15:41]]
|- id="t15:41:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | OLF?
|| [[#t15:41:40|15:41]]
|- id="t15:41:56"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | on friday I tested qemu emulation of arm. it's insanely slow, but it works
|| [[#t15:41:56|15:41]]
|- id="t15:42:10"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | pwhalen
| style="color: #97974f" | tflink, trimslice issue is fixed
|| [[#t15:42:10|15:42]]
|- id="t15:42:26"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | speaking of the devil...
|| [[#t15:42:26|15:42]]
|- id="t15:42:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info trimslice issue with glibc is fixed
|| [[#t15:42:29|15:42]]
|- id="t15:42:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | pwhalen: what about omap?
|| [[#t15:42:49|15:42]]
|- id="t15:42:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | or was it specific to pandaboard?
|| [[#t15:42:57|15:42]]
|- id="t15:43:21"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | pwhalen
| style="color: #97974f" | we'd like to not decalre any hw blockers for f20 for arm
|| [[#t15:43:21|15:43]]
|- id="t15:43:41"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | pwhalen
| style="color: #97974f" | tflink, omap issue is still outstanding
|| [[#t15:43:41|15:43]]
|- id="t15:44:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | pwhalen: ok, but which platforms are actually working ATM?
|| [[#t15:44:03|15:44]]
|- id="t15:44:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | I don't see any non-minimal passes in the matrices for TC2
|| [[#t15:44:17|15:44]]
|- id="t15:45:31"
! style="background-color: #854685" | pschindl
| style="color: #854685" | Does anyone checked if fix for #979174 works fine?
|| [[#t15:45:31|15:45]]
|- id="t15:45:52"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | pwhalen
| style="color: #97974f" | Ive tested most of them in qemu to see if they booted etc. the trimslice glibc issue is fixed, however there is no network right now
|| [[#t15:45:52|15:45]]
|- id="t15:46:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | so we still don't have any common hardware that can run the images?
|| [[#t15:46:31|15:46]]
|- id="t15:46:40"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | pwhalen
| style="color: #97974f" | panda doesnt boot at all, qemu works well, on highbank ive done a number of installs, interactive, autopart , lvm
|| [[#t15:46:40|15:46]]
|- id="t15:47:13"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | any news with beaglebone black?
|| [[#t15:47:13|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:44"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | pwhalen
| style="color: #97974f" | qemu works well, but no network on trimslice
|| [[#t15:47:44|15:47]]
|- id="t15:47:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info the trimslice glibc issue is fixed, however there is no network right now
|| [[#t15:47:54|15:47]]
|- id="t15:48:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info panda doesnt boot at all
|| [[#t15:48:11|15:48]]
|- id="t15:48:21"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | pwhalen
| style="color: #97974f" | beaglebone black is actively being worked on as a priority over the pandaboard
|| [[#t15:48:21|15:48]]
|- id="t15:48:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info [arm] qemu works well
|| [[#t15:48:24|15:48]]
|- id="t15:49:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info highbank appears to be working for installs: interactive, autopart , lvm
|| [[#t15:49:13|15:49]]
|- id="t15:49:17"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | pwhalen
| style="color: #97974f" | pandaboard is dead upstream unfortunately
|| [[#t15:49:17|15:49]]
|- id="t15:49:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info beaglebone black is actively being worked on as a priority over the pandaboard
|| [[#t15:49:35|15:49]]
|- id="t15:49:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | a casualty of TIs strategy change, I assume
|| [[#t15:49:49|15:49]]
|- id="t15:50:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | but we still have no common ARM platforms working a day before alpha freeze
|| [[#t15:50:24|15:50]]
|- id="t15:50:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | unless I'm missing something
|| [[#t15:50:31|15:50]]
|- id="t15:50:39"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | pwhalen
| style="color: #97974f" | so we expect things to change shortly with hw, but dont think the kernel issues should block a release
|| [[#t15:50:39|15:50]]
|- id="t15:51:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | any guesses on timeframe?
|| [[#t15:51:22|15:51]]
|- id="t15:51:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | days/weeks/months etc.?
|| [[#t15:51:32|15:51]]
|- id="t15:52:17"
! style="background-color: #97974f" | pwhalen
| style="color: #97974f" | kyles pretty awesome, so I say days.. but would feel more comfortable talking with him tomorrow about it
|| [[#t15:52:17|15:52]]
|- id="t15:52:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#t15:52:27|15:52]]
|- id="t15:53:01"
| colspan="2" | * tflink needs to look back on the fesco decision and see if there were any comments about working HW for PA
|| [[#t15:53:01|15:53]]
|- id="t15:53:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | anyhow, we're running short on time
|| [[#t15:53:09|15:53]]
|- id="t15:53:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Fedora 20 Alpha Testing
|| [[#t15:53:32|15:53]]
|- id="t15:53:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | I don't think there's much to say here
|| [[#t15:53:37|15:53]]
|- id="t15:53:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | more testing to do, annoyance-phasers to hand out
|| [[#t15:53:52|15:53]]
|- id="t15:54:17"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #info Fedora 20 Alpha Freeze is Tomorrow 2013-09-03
|| [[#t15:54:17|15:54]]
|- id="t15:54:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | so bodhi will be turned on tomorrow
|| [[#t15:54:29|15:54]]
|- id="t15:54:46"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | the usual rush for blocker/FE status will follow shortly, I assume
|| [[#t15:54:46|15:54]]
|- id="t15:55:00"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | yay
|| [[#t15:55:00|15:55]]
|- id="t15:55:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | anything that should be called out which hasn't already?
|| [[#t15:55:11|15:55]]
|- id="t15:55:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | hasn't already been mentioned, rather
|| [[#t15:55:18|15:55]]
|- id="t15:55:31"
| colspan="2" | * kparal hasn't received his phaser yet
|| [[#t15:55:31|15:55]]
|- id="t15:55:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #action tflink to poke roshi about handling test day tickets
|| [[#t15:55:55|15:55]]
|- id="t15:56:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | kparal: we'll have to fix that soon :)
|| [[#t15:56:15|15:56]]
|- id="t15:56:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | then it's time for ...
|| [[#t15:56:22|15:56]]
|- id="t15:56:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #topic Open Floor
|| [[#t15:56:29|15:56]]
|- id="t15:56:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | Anything else that should be brought up?
|| [[#t15:56:39|15:56]]
|- id="t15:56:49"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | bacon
|| [[#t15:56:49|15:56]]
|- id="t15:56:54"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | umm, sorry
|| [[#t15:56:54|15:56]]
|- id="t15:57:11"
| colspan="2" | * tflink will never understand the obsession some people have with bacon
|| [[#t15:57:11|15:57]]
|- id="t15:57:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | If there's nothing else ...
|| [[#t15:57:44|15:57]]
|- id="t15:57:45"
| colspan="2" | * kparal is looking forward to his supper
|| [[#t15:57:45|15:57]]
|- id="t15:57:47"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | rcheleguini
| style="color: #9b519b" | hey all, I'm Raul, would like to start help fedora with QA
|| [[#t15:57:47|15:57]]
|- id="t15:58:11"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | rcheleguini: welcome! is there anything in particular that you'd like to work on?
|| [[#t15:58:11|15:58]]
|- id="t15:58:11"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | rcheleguini: that's great, welcome!
|| [[#t15:58:11|15:58]]
|- id="t15:58:18"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | rcheleguini
| style="color: #9b519b" | kparal, tflink thanks!
|| [[#t15:58:18|15:58]]
|- id="t15:58:25"
| colspan="2" | * tflink notes that we have ~ 2 minutes left
|| [[#t15:58:25|15:58]]
|- id="t15:58:41"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | rcheleguini
| style="color: #9b519b" | tflink, yes, since I don't have background with QA, I will need some help :)
|| [[#t15:58:41|15:58]]
|- id="t15:59:03"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | kparal
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | rcheleguini: let's continue this in #fedora-qa outside of the meeting
|| [[#t15:59:03|15:59]]
|- id="t15:59:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | yep, my thoughts exactly
|| [[#t15:59:14|15:59]]
|- id="t15:59:15"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | rcheleguini
| style="color: #9b519b" | I've signed the lists and I'm following the channels here in freenode
|| [[#t15:59:15|15:59]]
|- id="t15:59:24"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | rcheleguini
| style="color: #9b519b" | sounds good
|| [[#t15:59:24|15:59]]
|- id="t15:59:25"
! style="background-color: #9b519b" | rcheleguini
| style="color: #9b519b" | thanks!
|| [[#t15:59:25|15:59]]
|- id="t15:59:45"
| colspan="2" | * tflink sets a short patent-pending nondeterministic QA fuse
|| [[#t15:59:45|15:59]]
|- id="t15:59:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | Thanks for coming everyone!
|| [[#t15:59:47|15:59]]
|- id="t15:59:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | Keep up the good work!
|| [[#t15:59:57|15:59]]
|- id="t16:00:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | tflink
| style="color: #407a40" | #endmeeting
|| [[#t16:00:25|16:00]]
|}


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Attendees

  • tflink (111)
  • kparal (35)
  • pschindl (13)
  • pwhalen (10)
  • spstarr (9)
  • zodbot (9)
  • ignatenkobrain (8)
  • rcheleguini (6)
  • drago01 (4)
  • Southern_Gentlem (3)
  • jskladan (1)

Agenda

  • Followup from previous meeting
  • Fedora 20 Planning/Status
  • Open floor

Followup from previous meeting

  • Roshi to get out test day schedule soon - announcement went out, still more work to do
  • handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located - status unknown, re-listed for follow-up next week

Fedora 20 Planning/Status

  • Alpha freeze was scheduled for the following day, 09-03
  • Installation matrices looked OK, considering current issues with Alpha TC2:

ARM status

  • trimslice issue with glibc was fixed, but networking was not working at time of meeting
  • Pandaboard did not boot at all
  • ARM qemu was working well
  • highbank appeared to be working for installs: interactive, autopart, lvm
  • beaglebone black was actively being worked on as a priority over the pandaboard

Open floor

N/A

Action items

  • handsome_pirate to co-ordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located
  • kparal or pschindl to pester brno anaconda folks about rhbug:1000927
  • tflink to poke roshi about handling test day tickets

IRC Log

tflink #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting 15:00
zodbot Meeting started Mon Sep 2 15:00:43 2013 UTC. The chair is tflink. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00
zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00
tflink #meetingname fedora-qa 15:00
zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 15:00
tflink #topic Roll Call 15:00
tflink #chair kparal pschindl 15:00
zodbot Current chairs: kparal pschindl tflink 15:00
ignatenkobrain .fasinfo ignatenkobrain 15:01
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ignatenkobrain hi all! 15:01
* pschindl is here 15:01
tflink ignatenkobrain, pschindl: welcome, welcome 15:02
pschindl tflink: good morning 15:03
spstarr hullo 15:03
ignatenkobrain tflink: you too ;) 15:03
tflink still missing a few folks 15:04
* jskladan checks in 15:04
* kparal arrives late 15:05
kparal pschindl: thanks 15:06
tflink alrighty, lets get started 15:06
tflink #topic Previous Meeting Followup 15:07
tflink #info Roshi to get out test day schedule soon 15:07
tflink I do believe that he started on this 15:07
tflink but there are several test day tickets which need to be addressed 15:08
tflink #info announcement has gone out, still more work to do 15:08
tflink #info handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located 15:09
tflink does anyone know more about the status on this? 15:09
* tflink has no idea if this was done or not, does not see mr. pirate online ATM 15:10
tflink #undo 15:10
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tflink #info handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located - UNKNOWN status 15:10
tflink #action handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located 15:11
tflink anything else from last week that I missed? 15:11
* tflink assumes not 15:12
tflink moving on 15:12
tflink #topic Fedora 20 Alpha Status/Planning 15:12
tflink #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_20_Alpha_TC2_Install?rd=Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test 15:13
tflink #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_20_Alpha_TC2_Desktop 15:13
tflink the installation matrices look OK to me for coverage 15:14
kparal 32b images are dead atm 15:14
tflink still missing quite a few results but I suspect that they've been covered otherwise 15:14
ignatenkobrain .bug 1000889 15:14
zodbot ignatenkobrain: Bug 1000889 AttributeError: 'DeviceFormat' object has no attribute 'mount' - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000889 15:14
ignatenkobrain I can't boot netinst 15:14
ignatenkobrain on x86_64 15:14
kparal ignatenkobrain: already accepted as blocker 15:15
kparal we know about it 15:15
ignatenkobrain kparal: ack 15:15
tflink #info installation matrices look OK, considering current issues with F20 alpha TC2 15:15
tflink in retrospect, should have done F20 issues first 15:16
tflink messy minutes FTW! 15:16
tflink #topic F20 Issues 15:16
tflink #info x32 images are DOA 15:17
spstarr happy holiday Monday  ;) 15:17
tflink #info several proposed/accepted blockers remain which are causing significant installation issues 15:18
tflink #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/20/alpha/buglist 15:18
spstarr do we have the runlevel is unknown as a blocker bug posted? 15:18
tflink spstarr: not that I'm aware of, no 15:18
spstarr i would propose that as a blocker let me get bug # 15:19
spstarr cannot start X with graphical environment (KDE or GNOME) with no runlevel 15:19
tflink it looks like the biggest issues ATM are: 1000927 and 1003230 15:19
tflink note the _biggest_ part of that - not trying to say that the other bugs aren't issues 15:20
kparal and 1002055 15:20
spstarr https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1002806 15:20
spstarr note i hit this with PXE/ boot.iso 15:21
tflink from a quick scan, it doesn't look like there's been much movement on any of these 15:21
tflink 32bit sounds like a huge mess, in general 15:21
tflink and we freeze tomorrow! 15:21
kparal spstarr: let's discuss this one outside of the meeting. but you really need to add how-to-reproduce description 15:21
tflink fun times 15:21
spstarr kparal: i will append to bug we can discuss in other channel 15:22
spstarr yes 15:22
kparal spstarr: and logs 15:22
tflink is anyone actively poking devs for a fix on any of the bugs we've listed above? 15:22
kparal the gnome-shell bug seems to be worked on 15:22
kparal there's no development in 1000927 15:23
kparal we should raise this in #anaconda 15:23
kparal hmm, neither in 1000889 15:23
tflink not sure we'll get much out of them today - most of them are US based or probably have gone home 15:24
kparal right 15:25
tflink sounds like we have a todo list for tomorrow, then 15:25
pschindl Most of anaconda team has vacation these days 15:25
kparal I or pschindl can ask vpodzime to debug 1000927 tomorrow 15:25
pschindl kparal: ok 15:26
tflink #action kparal or pschindl to pester brno anaconda folks about 1000927 15:26
kparal roger 15:26
kparal I'll pester pschindl who will forward it to Vratislav 15:27
pschindl I'll be happy to do that :) 15:27
* tflink can pester devs about #1000889 tomorrow 15:27
pschindl kparal: maybe I'll ask some of our intern to do that :) 15:27
tflink wow, the levels of delegation we have :-D 15:27
pschindl tflink: hopefully they will be online, I heard something about longer vacation, but maybe it was only about Monday 15:28
kparal the more levels the more efficiency, I heard... 15:28
tflink someone is off for the next week, clumens, I think? 15:28
tflink i hope it isn't all of them 15:28
pschindl 1002055 should be fixed in 3.9.91 which should come in Wednesday 15:29
tflink #info 1002055 will hopfully be fixed by mutter-3.9.91 which should come on wednesday 15:29
* tflink wonders how much more of the gnome stack will come with it, but that is a different question 15:30
tflink any other huge issues that need driving/annoyance-phasers? 15:30
kparal pschindl: no it won't 15:31
ignatenkobrain not from me 15:31
tflink the rest will come up tomorrow or at the blocker meeting on wednesday, I suppose 15:31
kparal pschindl: read comment 23 15:32
pschindl kparal: "drago01: pschindl: should be in 3.9.91 which should be released soon (today or tomorrow)" that's what I just read on #fedora-desktop 15:32
kparal pschindl: ah, great news then 15:32
drago01 kparal: fwiw here is the upstream commit https://git.gnome.org/browse/mutter/commit/?id=46f4ea7ed7daf89f 15:33
tflink sweet 15:34
tflink drago01: i assume that means that there will be no build to test until that's released? 15:34
drago01 tflink: that's an obvious fix imo but I can get you a scratch build if you want that 15:35
pschindl only issue is 3.9.91 build of Gnome. I'm not sure, if it could go to compose after freeze. But I assume that if we have this blocker ... 15:35
tflink yeah, I was wondering that as well 15:35
drago01 tflink: but florian might gets the release done today we could just get 3.9.91 15:35
tflink not sure we want to pull in an entire gnome release as a blocker 15:35
pschindl tflink: it should come the day after tomorrow. And I think it would be great to test it as soon as possible. 15:36
kparal tflink: what could possibly go wrong? 15:36
tflink kparal: that's a scary question :) 15:36
tflink either way, it sounds like we're waiting on new builds to test that 15:37
tflink if we're lucky, it'll get done today and we'll be able to avoid the question of whether or not to pull in a new gnome release as a blocker 15:37
* tflink hasn't been following gnome all that closely, is 3.9.91 a big change? 15:38
tflink eh, we're getting off into the weeds, will discuss outside meeting 15:38
pschindl It was told to me that it should come in next few days 15:38
tflink on to the next topic 15:38
tflink #topic Fedora 20 Alpha ARM devices 15:38
drago01 tflink: .90 -> .91 is going from beta to rc 15:39
tflink I suspect that there is nobody around to answer the question of which devices actually work now 15:39
tflink IIRC, there was a possible fix for the trimslice 15:39
kparal maybe pwhalen knows? 15:39
kparal if he's here 15:39
tflink he's US based 15:39
tflink sane people don't work on holidays 15:40
tflink :) 15:40
Southern_Gentlem tflink, wanna bet 15:40
kparal Southern_Gentlem: tflink is US based as well 15:40
kparal I completely forgot 15:40
tflink hence the "sane" part 15:40
Southern_Gentlem work today to go to OLF later 15:40
Southern_Gentlem seems sane to me 15:41
tflink OLF? 15:41
kparal on friday I tested qemu emulation of arm. it's insanely slow, but it works 15:41
pwhalen tflink, trimslice issue is fixed 15:42
kparal speaking of the devil... 15:42
tflink #info trimslice issue with glibc is fixed 15:42
tflink pwhalen: what about omap? 15:42
tflink or was it specific to pandaboard? 15:42
pwhalen we'd like to not decalre any hw blockers for f20 for arm 15:43
pwhalen tflink, omap issue is still outstanding 15:43
tflink pwhalen: ok, but which platforms are actually working ATM? 15:44
tflink I don't see any non-minimal passes in the matrices for TC2 15:44
pschindl Does anyone checked if fix for #979174 works fine? 15:45
pwhalen Ive tested most of them in qemu to see if they booted etc. the trimslice glibc issue is fixed, however there is no network right now 15:45
tflink so we still don't have any common hardware that can run the images? 15:46
pwhalen panda doesnt boot at all, qemu works well, on highbank ive done a number of installs, interactive, autopart , lvm 15:46
kparal any news with beaglebone black? 15:47
pwhalen qemu works well, but no network on trimslice 15:47
tflink #info the trimslice glibc issue is fixed, however there is no network right now 15:47
tflink #info panda doesnt boot at all 15:48
pwhalen beaglebone black is actively being worked on as a priority over the pandaboard 15:48
tflink #info [arm] qemu works well 15:48
tflink #info highbank appears to be working for installs: interactive, autopart , lvm 15:49
pwhalen pandaboard is dead upstream unfortunately 15:49
tflink #info beaglebone black is actively being worked on as a priority over the pandaboard 15:49
tflink a casualty of TIs strategy change, I assume 15:49
tflink but we still have no common ARM platforms working a day before alpha freeze 15:50
tflink unless I'm missing something 15:50
pwhalen so we expect things to change shortly with hw, but dont think the kernel issues should block a release 15:50
tflink any guesses on timeframe? 15:51
tflink days/weeks/months etc.? 15:51
pwhalen kyles pretty awesome, so I say days.. but would feel more comfortable talking with him tomorrow about it 15:52
tflink ok 15:52
* tflink needs to look back on the fesco decision and see if there were any comments about working HW for PA 15:53
tflink anyhow, we're running short on time 15:53
tflink #topic Fedora 20 Alpha Testing 15:53
tflink I don't think there's much to say here 15:53
tflink more testing to do, annoyance-phasers to hand out 15:53
tflink #info Fedora 20 Alpha Freeze is Tomorrow 2013-09-03 15:54
tflink so bodhi will be turned on tomorrow 15:54
tflink the usual rush for blocker/FE status will follow shortly, I assume 15:54
kparal yay 15:55
tflink anything that should be called out which hasn't already? 15:55
tflink hasn't already been mentioned, rather 15:55
* kparal hasn't received his phaser yet 15:55
tflink #action tflink to poke roshi about handling test day tickets 15:55
tflink kparal: we'll have to fix that soon :) 15:56
tflink then it's time for ... 15:56
tflink #topic Open Floor 15:56
tflink Anything else that should be brought up? 15:56
kparal bacon 15:56
kparal umm, sorry 15:56
* tflink will never understand the obsession some people have with bacon 15:57
tflink If there's nothing else ... 15:57
* kparal is looking forward to his supper 15:57
rcheleguini hey all, I'm Raul, would like to start help fedora with QA 15:57
tflink rcheleguini: welcome! is there anything in particular that you'd like to work on? 15:58
kparal rcheleguini: that's great, welcome! 15:58
rcheleguini kparal, tflink thanks! 15:58
* tflink notes that we have ~ 2 minutes left 15:58
rcheleguini tflink, yes, since I don't have background with QA, I will need some help :) 15:58
kparal rcheleguini: let's continue this in #fedora-qa outside of the meeting 15:59
tflink yep, my thoughts exactly 15:59
rcheleguini I've signed the lists and I'm following the channels here in freenode 15:59
rcheleguini sounds good 15:59
rcheleguini thanks! 15:59
* tflink sets a short patent-pending nondeterministic QA fuse 15:59
tflink Thanks for coming everyone! 15:59
tflink Keep up the good work! 15:59
tflink #endmeeting 16:00

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