QA/Meetings/20130909

Attendees

• tflink (84)
• jreznik_ (11)
• randomuser` (9)
• pwhalen (8)
• roshi (5)
• zodbot (5)
• kparal (4)
• handsome_pirate (4)
• pschindl (4)
• spoore (1)
• mkrizek (1)
• Viking-Ice (1)
• oddshocks (1)
• bconoboy (1)
• akshayvyas (1)
• satellit_e (1)

Agenda

• Followup from previous meeting
• Fedora 20 Planning/Status
• Open floor

Followup from previous meeting

• kparal or pschindl to pester brno anaconda folks about #1000927 - this was done, we have a fix waiting for review and updates.img to test against TC4
• tflink to poke roshi about handling test day tickets - poke happened, roshi will start more handling later this week
• handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located - this did not seem to have been done yet, was passed on to tflink to poke handsome_pirate or take over and do it himself

Fedora 20 Planning/Status

F20 Alpha TC5 Testing Status

• Some concern about possible lack of bare metal UEFI and USB testing

Arm Hardware Status

• We were still waiting on a new kernel for wired network on trimslice
• Currently supported platforms were: wandboard, highbank (caldexa), qemu, trimslice
• beaglebone black booted, but will need some more work for usb and network

Open floor

• A review meeting would immediately follow the QA meeting
• Go/No-go and readiness meetings were scheduled for Thursday 09-12

Action items

• tflink to pester handsome_pirate about cloud testing coordination and/or talk to cloud folks about testing and eventual location of images

IRC Log

tflink	#startmeeting Fedora QA meeting	15:02
zodbot	Meeting started Mon Sep 9 15:02:14 2013 UTC. The chair is tflink. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	15:02
zodbot	Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.	15:02
tflink	#meetingname fedora-qa	15:02
zodbot	The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'	15:02
tflink	#topic Roll Call	15:02
* pschindl is here		15:02
* satellit_e listening		15:02
tflink	#chair kparal	15:02
zodbot	Current chairs: kparal tflink	15:02
* mkrizek here		15:02
* oddshocks is lurking		15:02
* spoore is lurking		15:02
* akshayvyas is here		15:02
* kparal late again		15:03
* pwhalen is here		15:03
* roshi is here-ish		15:03
tflink	i think we have enough people here, let's get started	15:06
tflink	#topic Previous Meeting Followup	15:06
* Viking-Ice 50% in 50% out		15:06
tflink	#info kparal or pschindl to pester brno anaconda folks about 1000927	15:07
* jreznik_ is around		15:07
kparal	kudos go to pschindl	15:07
tflink	since we have a fix for this (in the form of an updates.img file), I assume this happened	15:07
pschindl	done. I talked to vpodzimek on Monday	15:07
tflink	#info this was done, we have a fix waiting for review and updates.img to test against TC4	15:08
tflink	#info tflink to poke roshi about handling test day tickets	15:08
roshi	Will handle that once I'm released from orientation tomorrow	15:10
tflink	#info poke happened, will start more handling later this week	15:10
* tflink assumes handsome_pirate is not here today		15:11
tflink	#info handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located	15:11
tflink	did this happen?	15:11
tflink	I seem to recall seeing a ml post somewhere	15:11
* kparal haven't seen that		15:12
tflink	but I'm not seeing it, so I must be mis-remembering	15:12
tflink	any volunteers to take an action to bug john about this or to get it done?	15:13
tflink	roshi? you're in the same room as the guy right now, I think.	15:14
roshi	He has a different orientation or something	15:14
tflink	ok	15:14
jreznik_	who's the one to be contacted? I can help	15:14
roshi	Last msg i had from him was around 1000	15:14
roshi	Eastern	15:15
tflink	jreznik_: handsome_pirate was supposed to coordinate cloud testing with the cloud folks but it's unclear whether that has happened or not	15:15
tflink	so either poking him, mattdm or the cloud folks	15:15
* tflink can do it		15:16
jreznik_	ok	15:16
tflink	#action tflink to pester handsome_pirate about cloud testing coordination and/or talk to cloud folks about testing and eventual location of images	15:16
tflink	hrm, I forgot to delete some items from the agenda before posting	15:17
tflink	it	15:17
tflink	eh, it works :)	15:17
tflink	#topic F20 Alpha TC5 Testing Status	15:17
tflink	#link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_20_Alpha_TC5_Install	15:18
tflink	#link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_20_Alpha_TC5_Desktop	15:18
randomuser	!	15:19
tflink	randomuser: i assume you have something for open floor? or for right now?	15:19
randomuser	a question about the test matrix you just linked, if that's ok	15:20
tflink	yeah, we're not very formal	15:20
tflink	go for it	15:20
randomuser	thanks	15:20
tflink	I'm planning to go through the matrices in more detail later today, but IIRC, we don't have much actual HW testing yet (USB stick, optical media etc.)	15:21
randomuser	I see nothing in the EFI column; is that because it isn't a requirement at this point, or nobody to test?	15:21
tflink	randomuser: which table?	15:21
randomuser	the image boot tests is the only part that really makes sense	15:22
tflink	TC5 just got released a couple of days ago, I imagine that nobody's gotten to it yet	15:22
randomuser	to test UEFI boot, i mean; so first 4 tables	15:22
tflink	if the box is white, it needs to be done. if the box is greyed out, the test is N/A and doesn't need to be done	15:22
randomuser	it's more the pattern that concerns me	15:23
tflink	yeah, that's another part of what I was noting above	15:23
tflink	I suspect that most testing so far has been done in VMs	15:23
randomuser	I might find time to do UEFI boot testing if nobody is stepping up - but practically speaking, i don't have the cycles unless *really* needed	15:23
randomuser	we can discuss out of band, tflink, I don't mean to sidetrack your meeting	15:24
kparal	we'll do some UEFI testing here in Brno	15:24
tflink	randomuser: we'd appreciate any test cases you'd like to contribute but I think it's not quite to the point of panic yet :)	15:24
tflink	it's not just UEFI, though	15:24
tflink	usb sticks, optical media have not had incredible coverage so far	15:25
tflink	any other thoughts on where we are for F20 testing?	15:26
tflink	we seem to be rather quiet today	15:26
pwhalen	tflink, arm testing in progress	15:26
tflink	pwhalen: have you tested TC5 on the trimslice yet?	15:26
tflink	dgilmore pulled in the -300 kernel	15:27
jreznik_	for desktop testing - anybody is going to replace adamw to send usual reminder to desktop teams? I can help	15:27
* tflink didn't realize that he usually did that		15:27
jreznik_	also the general one where we stand now would be great, pschindl - do you want to do it or prefer me to do it?	15:27
pwhalen	tflink, tc5 includes -3 sadly	15:28
pschindl	jreznik_: I'm not sure what exactly you mean by it. But I can do it :)	15:29
pwhalen	https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-TC5/Fedora/armhfp/os/Packages/k/kernel-3.11.0-3.fc20.armv7hl.rpm	15:29
jreznik_	pschindl: I'll send it to you	15:29
pschindl	jreznik_: thank you	15:29
tflink	any other general notes/concerns about F20 alpha testing?	15:30
tflink	ok, then. moving on	15:31
jreznik_	pschindl: well desktop one was for final... https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kde/2013-June/012592.html	15:31
tflink	#topic Arm Hardware Status	15:31
tflink	not a whole lot to say here	15:31
tflink	#info still waiting on new kernel for wired network on trimslice	15:31
pwhalen	trimslice is fixed with -300	15:32
pwhalen	and the beaglebone black boots, but willneed some more work for usb and network	15:32
tflink	#info currently supported platforms: wandboard, highbank (caldexa), qemu	15:32
tflink	bah	15:32
bconoboy	tflink: er, is -300 in TC5? If so, trimslice is fixed.	15:32
tflink	#undo	15:32
zodbot	Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x72ed1d0>	15:32
tflink	#info currently supported platforms: wandboard, highbank (caldexa), qemu, trimslice	15:32
pwhalen	bconoboy, its not	15:32
tflink	bconoboy: I thought it was, but it sounds like not so much	15:33
pwhalen	-3 is in tc5	15:33
tflink	#info beaglebone black boots, but willneed some more work for usb and network	15:33
tflink	note that beaglebone is not on the list of currently supported platforms and thus won't block release of F20 alpha	15:33
jreznik_	so just make sure it will be in the next tc/rc	15:34
tflink	yeah, we just weren't certain of it since there was no update filed and the kernel folks weren't around when we were doing the TC5 request	15:36
tflink	it should be in the next tc, though	15:36
tflink	would be nice to see an update and some general testing, though	15:36
tflink	anyhow, more on this?	15:37
* tflink assumes not		15:37
tflink	#topic Any Major Issues	15:37
tflink	are there any major issues with F20 alpha that need to be brought up	15:37
tflink	?	15:38
jreznik_	alpha wallpaper - but we can let it to the blocker review meeting	15:38
tflink	yeah, that should be voted on today	15:38
tflink	looks like they cleared up the blocks thing	15:39
jreznik_	yep and I hope I'll have good news :)	15:39
tflink	anything else people are aware of and isn't covered by a blocker?	15:40
* tflink takes that as a no		15:40
tflink	#topic Open Floor	15:40
tflink	Any other topics which should be brought up?	15:40
* handsome_pirate comes in late		15:41
tflink	#info blocker review meeting following the qa meeting @ 16:00 UTC	15:41
* handsome_pirate is on the job		15:41
tflink	handsome_pirate: did you ever talk to the cloud folks about testing and image locations?	15:41
handsome_pirate	tflink: I talked to Matt Miller; he said ping rbergeron about getting folks Amazon space	15:42
jreznik_	and head ups about Go/No-Go meeting - on Thursday @ 17:00 UTC, readiness @ 19:00 UTC	15:42
tflink	#info F20 Alpha Go/No-Go meeting is on Thursday @ 17:00 UTC	15:43
tflink	#info F20 Alpha release readiness is on Thursday @ 19:00 UTC	15:43
handsome_pirate	tflink: I'll ping rbergeron about Amazon this week	15:43
tflink	it'd be nice to see the cloud folks doing some of the testing :)	15:44
tflink	since they are the ones pushing for more visable cloud images	15:44
tflink	but I digress	15:44
tflink	if there's nothing else ...	15:44
* tflink sets patent-pending non-deterministic meeting fuse for [0,5] minutes		15:45
tflink	Thanks for coming, everyone!	15:46
tflink	remember the blocker review meeting in ~ 15 minutes in #fedora-blocker-review	15:46
tflink	#endmeeting	15:46

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