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Fedora Release Engineering Meeting :: Monday 2008-12-22

Summary

  • see IRC log

IRC Transcript

f13 ping: notting jeremy spot lmacken rdieter poelcat wwoods warren 09:59
* lmacken 09:59
f13 hrm, no jeremy no warren 09:59
* notting is here 10:00
rdieter hi 10:01
* poelcat here 10:02
f13 might as well get started 10:04
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - F11 milestones 10:04
f13 I used offtrac and filed our milestones/tickets for F11. Unfortunately I had a bug that made --stealth not actually be stealthy, so mailbombing happened. 10:04
f13 sorry about that 10:04
f13 one thing I realized is that we should make these tickets more generically named and with more generic information in them, so that I can just run a script each release to file all the tickets 10:05
notting see, if you hadn't mentioned it, we just would have assumed there was no --stealth mode 10:05
f13 having done it by hand a few times now, it's rather tedious and easy to get wrong. 10:05
f13 also, if you think I've forgotten to file a ticket for a task, please let me know and I'll get it filed. 10:07
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - FUDCon 10:09
f13 I've signed up for a few hackfests and a barcamp session or two that somewhat related to releng 10:09
* stickster saw those on the schedule 10:09
f13 Offtrac, Automated QA, Makefile.common hackfests, and Automated QA barcamp 10:10
f13 should be a good time 10:10
f13 perhaps it would also be worthwhile to have a hackfest on the signing server 10:10
f13 at least a trial in getting it installed someplace in Fedora infra to poke at it 10:10
poelcat f13: i'd be glad to help note capture, etc. those discussions 10:11
f13 ok 10:11
f13 There is also a koji hackfest and various barcamps related to it 10:11
f13 something about Comps too 10:11
f13 so plenty to keep the releng types interested 10:12
f13 I'll try to go to the relevant ones and take something approximating notes to report back here for those that won't be able to attend. 10:12
f13 any further thoughts about FUDCon ? 10:12
poelcat we might have live audio stream too :) 10:13
notting come to fudcon! get snowed in! 10:13
f13 notting: but I'm already snowed in! 10:13
* poelcat is already doing that at home :( 10:13
notting f13: are they going to be able to contract out enough snowplows to unstick you before fudcon? 10:13
poelcat notting: they don't have those on this coast!!! :( 10:14
f13 notting: I have all wheel drive, I can get around. 10:14
f13 I'm actually surprised I still have power 10:14
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - Rawhide stability 10:15
f13 so I've been trying to keep an eye on rawhide every day, and although I'm not actually keeping records, at least keeping an idea of what all causes there to be no installable rawhide 10:15
f13 thus far, we've seen python-2.6 fall out causethere to be broken images a few times 10:16
f13 changes in the compose tools led to a day without a compose 10:16
f13 and most recently a new dep loop somewhere in the stack causing images to not be created 10:16
f13 those were all reasons why we had no images 10:16
f13 but on the days we've had images, we've also had issues with anaconda software making it uninstallable 10:17
f13 and currently (after I "fixed" the deploop) we have a rawhide that doesn't seem to dhcp in stage1, although I'd like somebody to verify that. 10:17
f13 anyway I'm being pretty aggressive about keeping rawhide installable given that we don't have any automation here yet. 10:20
dgilmore f13: hopefully we can spend some time working on secondary arch updates also 10:20
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - Open Floor 10:21
f13 anybody got any other topics? 10:21
poelcat f13: what is the timeline for going live w/ the signing server? 10:21
f13 a ways yet. 10:23
f13 seems it only works on things newer than RHEL5, so we'll have to take that into account. 10:23
f13 I hope to start playing a bit with it maybe over the break in an F10 guest, and will certainly want to poke at it at FUDCon 10:24
* poelcat just wondering if we had any interim milestones planned along the way and if using for F11 was a goal? 10:24
f13 Using it for f11 is a loose goal, I honestly don't have an idea how polished the code is at this point 10:26
f13 or how usable it is 10:26
dgilmore f13: think we should try get setup a git tree with cvs converted. so we could look at making it useable and more flexiable 10:28
f13 dgilmore: I honestly don't have time for that this cycle. 10:29
f13 I'm supposed to help dcantrell with a rewrite of anaconda-runtime scripts 10:29
f13 plus I don't think we'd be able to do it this close to a RHEL branching :/ 10:29
f13 alright folks, thanks for coming! 10:33

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