| f13
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ping: jwb rdieter warren wwoods lmacken jeremy notting poelcat spot
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10:03
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| * jwb is here
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10:03
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| * spot is hera
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10:03
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| * poelcat here
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10:03
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| * notting is here
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10:03
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| rdieter
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yo
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10:03
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| * warren here
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10:03
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| f13
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wow!
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10:04
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| warren
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?
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10:05
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| jwb
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lots of people here
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10:06
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| f13
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and fast responses
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10:06
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| f13
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so we're just missing jeremy and wwoods
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10:06
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| f13
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kind of important to have will for the next part
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10:07
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| warren
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we need will power?
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10:07
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| * lmacken is here
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10:08
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| f13
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sending sms
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10:09
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| wwoods
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boink
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10:11
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| -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - Fedora 11 Alpha
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10:11
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| wwoods
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sorry
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10:11
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| f13
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Alright, alpha status.
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10:11
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| wwoods
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writing status reports and junk
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10:11
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| f13
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Things were pretty OK, minus the two big ticket items, the nash mounting by label/uuid bug, and ppc being DOA
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10:12
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| f13
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since things were so OK, we talked about a refresh of the freeze tag early this week
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10:12
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| f13
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(provided rawhide stayed sane)
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10:12
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| f13
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thus far, rawhide is pretty sane
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10:12
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| wwoods
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=480842
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10:12
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| buggbot
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Bug 480842: high, low, ---, dwmw2@infradead.org, CLOSED RAWHIDE, F11 Rawhide kernel fails to boot on ppc - /vmlinuz: Not a valid ELF image
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10:12
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| f13
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and we may have actually fixed ppc
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10:12
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| wwoods
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and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480667
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10:13
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| buggbot
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Bug 480667: medium, low, ---, pjones@redhat.com, NEW, nash unable to find dm devs by uuid or label causing boot to fail
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10:13
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| f13
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there were 2 problems with ppc, ppc64 had a bad elf image, and ppc32 had non-working squashfs-utils
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10:13
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| f13
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jwb got the ppc64 issue squared away, and kylem fixed squashfs for us just today
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10:13
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| f13
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I've got a test ppc32 tree that jwb and I are going to throw some machines at to see if it's working, tomorrow's rawhide shoudl be an even better test
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10:13
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| wwoods
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nice
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10:16
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| wwoods
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any progress on why ppc kernel builds take for-effing-ever?
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10:16
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| f13
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not sure.
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10:16
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| f13
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THere is one more bug that has a patch attached to it, and that's the bitmap fonts bug
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10:16
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| f13
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we should probably poke ajax today and see if we can get a build out for it
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10:16
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| jwb
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wwoods, i did som
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10:17
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| jwb
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wwoods, the answer is "rpm debuginfo sucks"
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10:17
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| jwb
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the actual build time is on par with most of the other arches
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10:17
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| notting
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f13: are we rebasing or tagging?
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10:18
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| f13
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notting: will get to that, that's the second agenda item
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10:18
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| f13
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There is one more thing of note for alpha status. It won't be gpg signed.
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10:19
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| f13
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gpg signing is a bit up in the air right now, we need bigger bit sigs to comply with the sha-256 mandate, and that's goign to require some buildsystem updates
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10:19
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| warren
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f13: ajax might not be back from AU
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10:19
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| f13
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also, I'd like a chance to get sigul running so that we coudl explore reducing our gpg key set
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10:19
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| f13
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F10 alpha wasn't gpg signed either, so there is some precidence here.
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10:20
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| jwb
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raise your hand if you care
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10:20
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| wwoods
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yeah... nope
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10:20
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| f13
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ok, anything else on current status before we go and change that status with our next topic?
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10:21
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| -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - Alpha refresh
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10:23
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| f13
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as I mentioned before, since we're in a good spot, we're considering refreshing the alpha tag
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10:23
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| f13
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essentially I'd do another koji clone-tag action to bring f11-alpha up to par with dist-f11 late tonight so that Tuesday's rawhide == F11 alpha
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10:24
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| f13
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and we'd go from there to make the bits to put on the mirrors
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10:24
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| f13
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in theory we coudl be all wrapped up by late Wed, plenty of time for mirrors to sync
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10:24
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| warren
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then we all retest that to be sure it installs and boots?
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10:24
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| notting
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do we have fallback trees in case it goes *bang*?
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10:24
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| warren
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i'm not against this, just a lot of unknown variables
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10:24
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| f13
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warren: yes, we'd re-test everything, which we can get through pretty quickly now
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10:25
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| * stickster adds note to Alpha release notes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Alpha_release_notes#No_GPG_signatures
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10:25
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| f13
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notting: yes, we have a mash of the old f11-alpha tag as of last week.
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10:25
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| dgilmore
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wwoods: FWIW sparc kernel builds take longer
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10:25
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| dgilmore
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wwoods: there being build -j16 since that the max fedora will use. most of the time is in debuginfo land
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10:26
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| f13
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notting: it may be a better idea to create f11-alpha-2 and use /that/ for the refresh
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10:27
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| f13
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notting: giving us f11-alpha to fall back to in case somethign does go bang.
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10:27
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| dgilmore
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f13: :) sounds sane
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10:27
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| f13
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in fact, that's what I'll do
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10:27
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| jwb
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i like that
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10:27
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| notting
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f13: i agree, although i may be being paranoid
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10:28
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| f13
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no, I am too
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10:28
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| wwoods
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I have to admit that my testing has all been rawhide-targeted anyway, so I don't anticipate big surprises
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10:28
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| wwoods
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but, yeah, better safe than sorry
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10:28
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| jwb
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did most of the mysql deps get fixed?
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10:29
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| f13
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Somebody could drop a poop-bomb on us today
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10:29
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| f13
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jwb: most of it, looks like
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10:29
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| jwb
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like gcc 4.4?
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10:29
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| wwoods
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pretty sure we told the right people to hold off on gcc 4.4 until next week(ish)
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10:29
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| jwb
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aawww
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10:30
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| jwb
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no fun
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10:30
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| f13
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heh
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10:33
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| f13
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jwb: so, if ppc(32) actually looks good today/tomorrow, should we have a ppc alpha?
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10:33
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| jwb
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probably, but why did you specify 32?
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10:33
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| f13
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ppc32 was the last problem we had, the squashfs
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10:34
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| jwb
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well, that was ppc*
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10:34
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| jwb
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but yeah
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10:34
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| jwb
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i'll be testing the ppc compose on a ppc64 machine, if that clarifies anything
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10:35
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| f13
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ok
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10:37
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| f13
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So then the plan is to create f11-alpha-2 and populate it from dist-f11, at the rawhide compose time tonight (0600 UTC). We'll try to use that as our alpha release, falling back to f11-alpha if necessary
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10:38
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| f13
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if we fall back, we can still add the relevant ppc fixes to the tag
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10:38
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| jwb
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aye
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10:38
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| f13
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Today I'm going to be testing the ppc item, as well as doing full x86 composes from today's rawhide to test locally
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10:39
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| f13
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I'm also going to do a compsoe in PHX from today's rawhide to prime the mirrors and the magic stage location
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10:40
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| f13
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Anything else on the refresh topic>
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10:41
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| f13
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?
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10:41
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| warren
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f13: will you fix the fedora-release package before then?
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10:41
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| warren
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f13: all the broken symlinks
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10:41
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| f13
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warren: no, as we don't have a key yet to properly point them to
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10:42
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| warren
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oh
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10:43
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| -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora rel-eng - Open Floor
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10:45
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| f13
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ok, open floor for any other topics
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10:45
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| f13
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alright lets wrap it up and get to work! Thanks all!
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