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fabian_a> Welcome everybody. Let's have Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA
cmpahar hello
* fabian_a take a look around to see who is here
* spevack waves
fabian_a Roll call. Please state your first name and surname (in the past this was your wiki name)
spevack Max Spevack
fugolini FrancescoUgolini
red_alert Sandro "red" Mathys
fabian_a FabianAffolter
killefiz Sven Lankes
Frankly3D FrankMurphy
fcrippa FrancescoCrippa
wonderer1 Henrik Heigl
cmpahar ChristosBacharakis
cwickert Christoph Wickert
fabian_a Just a reminder. Please follow our meeting protocol. Thank you. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol
fabian_a Open our meeting page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-08-20 for the agenda if you like.
rsc [[User:robert|Robert Scheck]
fabian_a Let's start with the news from FAmSCo
fabian_a Please check the ambassadors mailing list about the Release Parties.
fabian_a https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-August/msg00247.html
fabian_a Other news from FAmSCo, fugolini?
fugolini Just a reminder to see the Max mail about the Q3 budget
fugolini for event owners only
fugolini eof
spevack we'll talk about budget in this meeting, when we get to events
fabian_a spevack: +1
fugolini yes, it was only a reminder to check the M-L
fabian_a Ok, next...Report current status of Ambassadors Membership
fabian_a There are now over 500 ambassadors registered in the FAS.
fabian_a Check http://jeffreyt.fedorapeople.org/ambassador-metrics/ for details
fabian_a Now Events
fabian_a Please open Fedora Events http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
fabian_a Let's start with FrOSCon. anybody?
spevack  !
spevack FrOSCon is this coming weekend.
cwickert  !
spevack I will be there, along with Robert Albrecht, and a few others. I am giving a talk on Saturday. I also have a bunch of Fedora 9 Live CDs (the nice ones, same that we had at LinuxTag)
spevack we were hoping to have the new t-shirts for this event, but they are not ready in time. That is my fault, and i apologize.
spevack EOF
fabian_a cwickert,
wonderer1  ?
* ianweller lurks
cwickert has anybody details about accomondation?
cwickert I called up Regina hitel but the lady wasn't able to tell me if they have reservations for us
cwickert also tried to contact Robert Albrecht by mail, but no response
spevack cwickert: it was my understanding that romal was making reservation for us at hotel regina
spevack cwickert: i am just going to show up and ask for a room :)
spevack if they don't have my name!
cwickert spevack: mine too,
cwickert they have a bunch of reservations for "FrOSCon" but not sure if we were taken into account
cwickert will try to figure that out tomorrow and then inform you
cwickert eof
fabian_a wonderer1,
spevack cwickert: thanks :)
spevack cwickert: see you on friday or saturday!
spevack eof
fabian_a wonderer1,
wonderer1 spevack: if thera where some CDs over I would be pleased if you could have them reserved them for an Event in Oktober. And if somebody have 1 or 2 Polos over (XXL) I also would be pleased. Thanks.
wonderer1 eof
spevack wonderer1: CDs, I can give you. Will you either /msg me or email me your address and how many you want. Polos, I do not have any.
cwickert wonderer1: maybe I can borrow you a polo
GeroldKa  !
fabian_a GeroldKa,
GeroldKa maybe we should try to figure out who else need the Ambassador Polo and try to order at least for FAd
GeroldKa good eveing btw
GeroldKa eof :-)
fabian_a are we done with FrOSCon?
spevack hi GeroldKa! EOF
wonderer1 cwickert: thanks. will see how it goes with kital with new ones ... but thanks so far.
spevack fabian_a: yes, i think so
fabian_a FUDCon: this is for spevack
GeroldKa bonsoir MrTom
spevack FUDCon...
spevack well, are there any questions?
spevack it is in 16 days.
spevack everyone who is coming should already be signed up
spevack If you signed up for hotel, that will be fully paid for 100% by Fedora
spevack and I hope that everyone has a WONDERFUL event. It has been a long time since we had a FUDCon in Europe, and this will be the first of an annual EMEA FUDcon
spevack any questions?
spevack http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008
GeroldKa  ?
spevack EOF
spevack GeroldKa:
GeroldKa how many registered attendees, Max?
spevack 110
GeroldKa sounds not so bad
spevack it is about what I was expecting
GeroldKa and which number from Fedora?
spevack more may still register
spevack GeroldKa: i don't know the exact breakdown of Red Hat employees from Czech Republic, Red Hat employees from Germany or other parts of Europe, and Fedora contributors, but I think there is a very good mix. Just looking over the names, there are a lot of people who I already know, and a lot of people who i have never met, so for me, it is a chance to get lots of people either more involved in fedora, or introduced to how to contribute to fedora
spevack EOF
fabian_a thanks spevack
spevack any other comments or questions about FUDCon?
spevack next year, we will pick another location in Europe. It will move around :)
GeroldKa  !
fabian_a GeroldKa,
GeroldKa Just an idea, but why not at LinuxSolution Paris
GeroldKa to show the french part of the world, that we are belong to them?
GeroldKa just an idea ....
GeroldKa eof
fabian_a let's move on...OpenExpo
spevack well, we (meaning Fedora Project) will certainly support LinuxSolution Paris, but I don't think we want to do one FUDCon in September and another in January. too close together. Also, the budget has already been decided through the end of February 2009, and there isn't money for another FUDCon. But it is important that we continue to support the French ambassadors, which is why I had a meeting with MrTom and all the others a few weeks ago.
spevack EOF
spevack sorry fabian_a  :)
spevack  !
fabian_a there is still a month to go.
fabian_a spevack,
spevack I want to talk about the budget for OpenExpo
spevack because we have so many events, and I want to make sure that everyone has what they need, but also the money disappears fast.
spevack Right now, we have budgeted $1000 USD (approx. 650 EUR) for the event.
spevack Do you think that is more than we need?
spevack what are the costs to Fedora for OpenExpo?
spevack I will bring CDsw
spevack which are already purchased
spevack We will bring some of our new t-shirts, which hopefully we can sell to make the money back.
fabian_a the accommodation is still not fixed, CDs are fixed, stickers are fixed
spevack fabian_a: we have stickers already?
fabian_a yepp, the small ones form Marco from LinuxTag
fabian_a around 30 pieces
GeroldKa  !
spevack fabian_a: well, i would like to get more stickers made for general EMEA usage
spevack fabian_a: so let me just say this.
GeroldKa me has also such stickers, also that much
spevack The budget is 650 EUR, but it would be nice if we could not use all of that, because I think we will be happy if we have some extra money that we can use for other EMEA events later on in the quarter.
spevack EOF
fabian_a if we need beds in a hotel we need the money because there are at least 3 people who need a bed
spevack fabian_a: well, that is why we have budget :)
fabian_a i will take care that we don't need all the money fro this event
GeroldKa aber sicher ist es nicht
fabian_a any more questions about OpenExpo?
spevack i think we probably need to get more stickers made at some point, that we can use at different events in EMEA. If someone wants to take care of that, we can use some budget to pay for it, as long as we agree on all the prices before we have them produced.
spevack stickers are easy to mail from one person to another ;)
spevack EOF
GeroldKa  !
fabian_a GeroldKa,
GeroldKa we should order Marco to take care for them
GeroldKa they were excellent
GeroldKa and not expensive
red_alert +1
GeroldKa eof
kanarip s/order Marco/kindly request Marco/
wonderer1 +1
fabian_a +1
cwickert another +1
fcrippa +1
spevack +1
GeroldKa sorry for my awful english :-) yes and thanks kanarip
spevack kanarip: :)
spevack kanarip: I ORDER YOU TO WRITE CODE
spevack  :)
kanarip it's so easy giving out orders like that to people like me
fabian_a who will tell marco that he will be in charge about the stickers?
spevack maybe GeroldKa?
spevack who has the good relationship with Marco?
red_alert I can, if someone tells me how much $ he should spend
spevack red_alert: it depends how much it costs ;)
cwickert spevak: petreu has, they shared a room at Berlin
spevack how many stickers can we get for 200 EUR? 300 EUR? etc.
GeroldKa .. done ...
GeroldKa  :-)
spevack and then we just fit it into the budget somewhere. ;)
spevack EOF
GeroldKa I asked for a quote @ Marco
GeroldKa by mail
fabian_a ok
spevack what's next?
fabian_a there are still some events left
fabian_a PCL5. SFD 2008, GITEX, LinuxDay
spevack  !
spevack er, nevermind. :)
spevack go ahead
fabian_a maybe I will take the LinuxDay
spevack LinuxDay is italy, right?
spevack all the italian ambassadors are organizing that.
fcrippa yes, it is
spevack fugolini, fcrippa, lfoppiano, etc.
fabian_a this one is in austria
spevack fabian_a: ah :)
fugolini  !
spevack if i can say one thing first, fugolini ?
fugolini absolutely yes
fabian_a there are "LinuxDay" in Italy and Austria
spevack LinuxDay in Austria was listed on the FedoraEvents page, but it had no owner. So on August 1, when we started making the FAMSco budget, we did not give that event any budget since it had no owner.
spevack if we still want to do the event, then we will have to take budget away from other events.
spevack EOF
spevack Linuxday in Italy does have owners, and therefore it does have budget :)
spevack EOF
spevack how important is the Austria event, compared to all the other things we want to do in September - November?
GeroldKa we have one or two Ambassadors in Austria
spevack are either of them at this meeting?
GeroldKa but not very active here :-(
fabian_a i guess that it will be only a small event, not very important
GeroldKa I'm really sure they do a good job
GeroldKa but not really in that way that we know about, unfortunately
* spevack shrugs... we have to make tough choices. no owner by the deadline, which was discussed many times on f-ambassadors-l, so no budget. if they show up and want to try to make the event happen, we will see what we can do. That is my opinion.
spevack we are trying to do 7 events in EMEA with a budget of about 4000 EUR. It's hard, I know. I am sorry that not every event gets all the budget that it wants...
fabian_a spevack: the event is near the German and the Swiss border
spevack i hope we can do better next year, with more budget overall for Fedora.
spevack fabian_a: if we can still pull it together for comparatively little, then if we have extra budget from OpenExpo we could use it for Austria.
spevack fabian_a: i leave it up to you?
* fugolini This is the total number of events by quarter -> Q1: 28 - Q2: 26 - Q3: 37
fabian_a spevack: ok, i will think about my attendance
spevack fabian_a: we still have time to figure it all out :)
fabian_a spevack: yes, we have
GeroldKa if we haven't a owner, it makes not sense to take care for a budget, does it?
GeroldKa thinking about Austria
fugolini  !
spevack GeroldKa: right... but if Fabian is willing to take ownership, and if he can save money from his openexpo budget, then i have no problem.
fabian_a we have stretched the events part enough...anything else about PCL5. SFD 2008, GITEX, Athens Digital Week, Install Fest Paris or FAD
spevack this is part of the philosophy of trying to allow individual ambassadors freedom with their budgets, for events that are near them.
spevack  !
spevack i have a few quick comments
spevack then fugolini needs to talk :)
spevack GITEX -- john babich is going. he did a good job last year
spevack we have some budget for him this year again
spevack Athens digital week came after the deadline... i am sorry about that for dimitris, but we have no budget for it right now. i will talk to him about it at FUDCon
spevack All the french speaking events, i leave to MrTom, and budget has been set aside for him.
spevack EOF
spevack fugolini: ...
fugolini nothing, going on, it's late
fugolini  :)
spevack fugolini: sorry if i took too much time
fugolini absolutely no problem
spevack fabian_a: what else?
fabian_a NPO: There are no news from Fedora EMEA as far as I know.
fabian_a Now the stage is open...anything else? Any more questions or issues before we close this meeting?
red_alert  !
fabian_a red_alert,
red_alert just some words about FAD EMEA 2008
red_alert I already sent out a reminder to the people who did not yet confirm their attendance, I hope to get the outstanding answers soon
red_alert if there's some questions or an issue, feel free to contact me, I'll try to help as good as I can
red_alert unfortunately, we're very limited on budget
spevack we have managed to increase the budget for the event, which will hopefully help a little bit. but we are still on a tight budget. We picked a very expensive place :)
fugolini  ?
red_alert the new budget plan says we have $2000, which is ok for the hotel but won't pay for food or travel
spevack $2000 = about 1250 EUR
spevack fugolini:
fugolini Why we didn't book the last FAD place?
spevack we tried, but they were already full
spevack  :(
red_alert but $2000 are not the final budget, I hope...if people try not to spend all their event budget, the budget can get bigger after all. we might also get a little somewhat from fedora emea e.V. and there's a company in Switzerland that might sponsor us a little
spevack if FUDCon comes in under budget, we will take some of that for FAD EMEA
spevack and I am doing everything i can to get FUDCon in under budget by at least $1000
fugolini But it requires time before say yes or no
fugolini As i said and, i think i'm not the only one, this friday is too early, just because i don't know if i will have the money resource by the date we will hold the meeting
fugolini *for
red_alert I'm trying to find fun events that are free of charge but still a lot of fun - I already have one very good idea there (surprise)
red_alert I know, that this Friday is a very early deadline and I apologize for it
spevack red_alert: is there any chance to add one or two more people later on, if we tell them most of what we expect by this friday?
fugolini Personally I can't say yes, just because it's really risky to say yes and be 20% sure
red_alert but you see, the location of last year's FAD has no free rooms for all of november (not just the picked date!)
red_alert the second hotel we asked, the same
red_alert this is the third in the row and we were fortunate, that at exactly that weekend, they have some free rooms
red_alert but they want us to book by Friday
GeroldKa maybe I have another idea (in Germany)
GeroldKa but first I need to check
GeroldKa I will let you all know
fugolini GeroldKa: that's what i have in mind :)
fugolini but by the way, i'm sure at least one from Italy will attend
GeroldKa I know fugolini, that you "know me"
red_alert I planned to book the rooms we need for sure by Friday and let them know that we're interested in 1-2 more rooms but can't tell yet
spevack fugolini: if you guys can save some of the Linux Day Italy budget, then you can spend it to help with travel to FAD EMEA for Italians :)
GeroldKa but due a lack of time I had to give up organisation for this FAD
red_alert fugolini: I'm sure about two ;)
* fcrippa is not sure about opportunity to save money on linuxday... actually we're looking for extra sponsor to reach all the 100 events in Italy....
fcrippa  ;-)
red_alert btw, as I said, I know a company in Switzerland, that bases part of their business on Fedora (and also Ubuntu and others). I just dropped them a line to ask for some $ and they are really thinking about how much they can spend.
red_alert if you know of such a company in your region, why not ask them too? particularly, if you have contacts to somewhere working there
red_alert i think, that's it for know from my side EOF
spevack fcrippa: i am sorry that there isn't more budget. We have expanded so much all over the world! Too popular I guess ;)
fcrippa  !
fabian_a fcrippa,
spevack we will have a good case to make for next year's budget
spevack EOF from me
fcrippa I'm interested in "fedora sponsorships" too
fugolini me too, thanks to red_alert and spevack for the organization. I know how difficult is organize such event with a small budget
fugolini ops
fugolini i'm referring to (23:09:52) spevack: EOF from me
fugolini lol
fcrippa i've added a point on fad program
fcrippa but I'd like to know "policies" or general rules to start relationship to make sposnorship possible also from Italy
fcrippa have fedora emea got any ideas about that?
spevack fcrippa: we were talking abou that the other day... i think a DRAFT wiki page was created somewhere
fcrippa eof
* spevack looks around
GeroldKa  !
spevack http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Sponsorship
fabian_a GeroldKa,
red_alert I did set that up, yea: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Sponsorship
spevack fcrippa: keep in mind it is a DRAFT :)
GeroldKa Just to let you know (to whom it may concern); I'm from now on afk until 2008-09-07 without Internet
spevack GeroldKa: have a great vacation!
GeroldKa and now I go to bed (if we're done) *g*
fugolini bye
* fcrippa_ is back... sorry... wireless connection is terrible bad...
wonderer1 ciao Gerold ...
wonderer1 hy fcrippa ;-)
red_alert fcrippa_: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Sponsorship ...in case you missed the link :)
fcrippa_ red_alert: yep, I missed :-)
fcrippa_ thanks!
fabian_a are we done for today?
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fabian_a Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-08-20 has been adjourned. Next meeting in September 2008.

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