| herlo
| josephscott: so let's go through the list of items on that page just to make sure we don't miss anythign and you can quickly give your take on each. Sound good?
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| herlo
| josephscott is a WordPress developer and works for automattic
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| herlo
| josephscott: Good security record
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| herlo
| could you speak to that over maybe the last year or so?
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| josephscott
| Most of the security issues in regards to WP have stemmed from plugins
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| josephscott
| core WP has been pretty good about that
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| josephscott
| steps have been taken to help make better security easier as well
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| herlo
| josephscott: wrt plugins, what kind of security features do you have to prevent people from doing stupid things?
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| herlo
| Proactive, security minded developer community <-- I think this speaks to the viability of WordPress some, right?
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| josephscott
| that's part of the beast for PHP apps, plugins run with the same abilities as everything else
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| herlo
| right
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| josephscott
| anyone can (and has :-) ) contact security@wordpress.org which is watched by the core WP devs
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| herlo
| Highly responsive, especially to security issues <-- do you guys have a track record somewhere we can look at for this?
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| josephscott
| I've found them to responsive to issues brought up
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| herlo
| quaid: you around?
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| josephscott
| hmmm, not sure that we have a specific spot were just the details are
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| herlo
| L10n that doesn't break the translator workflow <-- I'm not completely clear on this one, so I'll say what I know and give you a chance to
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| respond
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| herlo
| josephscott: so the translation practice is to take the english versions when they are near final and convert them to other languages, how
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| would that sort of workflow be handled in wordpress? We were discussing wordpress-mu btw at points so if that helps...
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| josephscott
| you could look at wordpress.com for example of how that could potentially end up. Say es.wordpress.com compared to en.wordpress.com
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| josephscott
| that's done based on the language setting of individual blogs
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| herlo
| Output for Transifex (PO/POT) <-- I was thinking maybe a plugin that converts the document to the right format wouldn't be too hard, just time consuming, thoughts?
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| herlo
| josephscott: ^^
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| josephscott
| the trend seems to be more towards having different URLs for different languages, google.com compares to google.es
| 16:21
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| herlo
| Content workflow (write <=> edit => publish)
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| josephscott
| contributor role in WP can do that
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| josephscott
| although it depends on who would be in each group
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| josephscott
| contributor is geared for submissions that would be reviewed/approved/edited by an editor user
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| herlo
| Content expiration (automatic)
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| herlo
| you mentioned this one, but wanna restate here?
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| josephscott
| herlo: I haven't seen anyone doing that in WP, would be a good candidate for a plugin (there might already be one, don't know)
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| herlo
| josephscott: I skipped a few features but what about this one: Be a CMS as a core function, not an add-on
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| ianweller
| Sparks: tickets are good. i guess something like fedorahosted.org/wikiczar would be nice/interesting/whatever
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| ianweller
| s/czar// if you wish :P
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| herlo
| some people argued that WP is not a CMS, but I've seen more and more development toward it
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| ianweller
| herlo: it manages content, therefore is a CMS
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| ianweller
| herlo: :)
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| josephscott
| that mostly depends on who you ask and what they consider a CMS to be
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| herlo
| ianweller: no argument...
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| herlo
| josephscott: Must not lock us in. Data should be portable to another CMS.
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| josephscott
| we've certainly been seeing more and more sites use it as a traditional CMS instead of specifically for blogs
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| josephscott
| WXR (the WordPress export format) is RSS + extensions
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| herlo
| how does that work?
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| herlo
| is it simple to export?
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| josephscott
| Tools -> Export in wp-admin
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| herlo
| sweet, I'm gonna try that
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| herlo
| josephscott: so on to wanted features over required
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| herlo
| Easy to organize content by taxonomy, structured and ad hoc
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| josephscott
| WP supports both categories (with hierarchy) and tags
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| herlo
| Good federation tools to make it easy to find disparate content through one UI
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| josephscott
| not sure what they mean by that
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| herlo
| me neither, was hoping you might have a nice quip
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| herlo
| :)
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| herlo
| moving on
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| herlo
| Have support for DocBook
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| * herlo guesses plugin, but who knows...
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| josephscott
| for exporting data to docbook? importing data from docbook?
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| Sparks
| josephscott: yes
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| herlo
| Sparks: nice
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| herlo
| josephscott: in both cases
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| josephscott
| it looks like there are folks who've done it: http://therowes.net/~greg/2006/03/26/integrating-docbook-and-wordpress/
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| herlo
| sweet!
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| * herlo will review that site too
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| herlo
| josephscott: thanks for your time, anything else you'd like to contribute before heading out
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| josephscott
| If it's mostly import/export then you'll probably end up writing a tool/plugin to take care of that
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| josephscott
| pick specific processes that you can break down into simple tasks and try it out
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| herlo
| thanksD josephscott
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| josephscott
| np
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