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| #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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| Meeting started Thu Sep 24 00:01:38 2009 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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| Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
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| Sparks
| #topic Roll Call
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| * Sparks
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| * jjmcd .
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| * danielsmw
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| * ianweller kinda sorta not really
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| * Sparks gives everyone just a few more minutes
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| Sparks
| Okay, let's get started.
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| Sparks
| #topic Last week's action items
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| Sparks
| quaid to follow up with Richard about the use of the CC logo on the wiki.
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| jjmcd
| none of the action item guys are here
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| Sparks
| Yeah, I just realized that.
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| Sparks
| We'll just pass these by...
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| Sparks
| #topic Release notes format changes
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| Sparks
| jjmcd: Is there any further discussion on this?
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| jjmcd
| what were we changing?
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| jjmcd
| A little late, they are being built each night
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| Sparks
| I don't know.
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| Sparks
| We'll just call this topic done.
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| Sparks
| #topic Status on CMS (Zikula)
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| jjmcd
| http://fedora.is-sixsigma.com/F12beta
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| Sparks
| Is there any update on Zikula?
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| danielsmw
| Um, I guess I have a small one
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| Sparks
| danielsmw: go ahead
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| danielsmw
| I hope I'm not being a blocker, but I'm not done with my package yet.
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| danielsmw
| I am very close though
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| danielsmw
| and most of the work is done
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| Sparks
| danielsmw: Which package?
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| danielsmw
| what I need is a legit packager to help me out with my packaging mistakes
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| danielsmw
| Xinha, for Scribite!
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| Sparks
| #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status
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| Sparks
| ^^^ I don't see it on the list. Could you add it, please?
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| Sparks
| danielsmw: I'm a packager but certainly not legit. ianweller is one, though.
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| danielsmw
| Sparks: alright
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| Sparks
| If he can't help you then maybe he can point you to someone who can
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| danielsmw
| wait, should this be on this list?
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| Sparks
| Yes.
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| danielsmw
| okay
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| danielsmw
| even though it's a general package
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| danielsmw
| and not a zikula module?
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| Sparks
| Well... it's needed for Zikula, right?
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| danielsmw
| It's just that it's _for_ zikula, which is why I brought it up now.
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| danielsmw
| Yeah, it is
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| danielsmw
| So I guess it goes there then.
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| danielsmw
| I'll update the list. :)
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| Sparks
| TU
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| Sparks
| danielsmw: Do you know how much more time it will take to get it straight?
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| bochecha
| if I may... I had started to package Xinha for a project of mine (but they I abandoned as I didn't use it in the end)
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| danielsmw
| Sparks: i really do have most of it done now, I believe. It's just silly rpmbuild errors
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| bochecha
| all I remember is that it wasn't a hard package, I had it built
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| danielsmw
| bochecha: it doesn't look that hard, I'm just no good at packaging. :)
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| Sparks
| danielsmw: What are the errors?
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| bochecha
| danielsmw, if I can help, drop me an email, I had already done it :P
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| danielsmw
| Sparks: things like... using sources that aren't archives, and such.
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| danielsmw
| bochecha: will do, thanks!
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| danielsmw
| Sparks: but the main outline of what I"m doing is there.
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| danielsmw
| danielsmw.fedorapeople.org/xinha.spec
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| Sparks
| danielsmw: Okay. If I can get my head above water (maybe this weekend) I'll be happy to look at it. ianweller fixed so many errors for me that I might know how to fix yours
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| Sparks
| might
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| danielsmw
| Sparks: might. thanks, it looks like I'll be getting plenty of help.
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| jjmcd
| danielsmw, if you have time tomorrow I might help, too tired tonite
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| Sparks
| cool
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| danielsmw
| great
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| danielsmw
| thanks everyone.
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| danielsmw
| i appreciate it.
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| Sparks
| Anything else for zikula?
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| danielsmw
| uh
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| danielsmw
| I have a question
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| Sparks
| danielsmw: Go ahead
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| * quaid arrives back
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| danielsmw
| On that page you told me to edit, FCKeditor is listed as something that needs to be packaged
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| * quaid can address his item when it comes back around
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| danielsmw
| which is basically the same thing as Xinha.
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| danielsmw
| is there a reason they should both be done?
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| Sparks
| No
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| danielsmw
| or is that just left over?
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| Sparks
| Not really
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| danielsmw
| okay, i'll remove it then.
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| Sparks
| Okay, anything else for Zikula?
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| Sparks
| #topic Status on CC license rollout.
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| Sparks
| quaid: Were you able to follow up with Legal?
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| quaid
| danielsmw: did you get hooked up with the Beacon maintainer?
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| quaid
| Sparks: yes!
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| danielsmw
| quaid: no, I forgot!
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| quaid
| ironically, Richard just pointed back to spot
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| quaid
| and spot knows of the problem; and there doesn't seem to be a solution
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| quaid
| i.e., the CC logo(s) are not coverable by the CC-BY-SA
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| quaid
| but maybe spot can explain better ...
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| * quaid forgot to ask if he'd be around
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| Sparks
| neither is our logo...
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| Sparks
| BUT, I'm good either way
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| quaid
| heh, nor are other logos we might carry
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| Sparks
| yeah
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| Sparks
| spot: You around?
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| Sparks
| I guess not.
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| Sparks
| So I don't see the problem with using it.
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| Sparks
| And I do see a problem with using it.
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| Sparks
| So are we going to go with "don't use it"?
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| quaid
| well, we have a clear legal guidance for don't use
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| quaid
| so, for now, we don't use it.
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| quaid
| I'll ask spot to explain on list, k?
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| Sparks
| k
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| Sparks
| #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule
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| Sparks
| So I guess we need to make internal notifications and then get ianweller on changing the wiki over
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| Sparks
| rudi's not here tonight but he was still trying to get access to those packages so he could change the Publican brand files over
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| * danielsmw is sneaking out early. peace.
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| Sparks
| danielsmw: Have a good one
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| Sparks
| Anything else on the license changeover?
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| * quaid is happy :)
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| Sparks
| #topic #
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| Sparks
| *
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| Sparks
| #topic Shared open-source style guide
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| Sparks
| I think this is a rudi thing, too. Anyone have anything to report on this?
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| quaid
| well, yes
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| quaid
| this was just part of something, righ?
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| Sparks
| quaid: Go ahead
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| quaid
| do we have someone who is focusing on what is going on
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| quaid
| with the upstream initiative?
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| Sparks
| Well....
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| quaid
| writingopensource.org, right?
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| Sparks
| maybe
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| Sparks
| I don't remember now
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| Sparks
| I think rudi was working on getting RH to release their docs
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| quaid
| right
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| Sparks
| I think ke4qqq was going to work on it as well
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| quaid
| that is something we can contribute to the upstream effort, or so I thought we discussed :)
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| quaid
| I forget who was on-list with this item ...
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| quaid
| he's a gnome.org person, iirc.
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| jjmcd
| yeah, I think someone else had point but I don't remember who
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| * quaid looks
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| Sparks
| It's been so long ago I don't even remember
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| quaid
| shaun mcchance?
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| * quaid having slow browser ...
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| * quaid joins http://identi.ca/group/wosdocs
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| Sparks
| So we need to figure out who from FP is going to work on this.
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| Sparks
| I think ke4qqq was interested but I don't know how much time he has now
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| Sparks
| Let's take this to the list and see if we can stir up any interest
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| Sparks
| anything else on this?
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| Sparks
| #topic Guide needs?
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| Sparks
| Are their any guides (or RN) that need help?
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| jjmcd
| I see some weird stuff
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| jjmcd
| need to get w/rudi
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| Sparks
| okay... anything else?
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| Sparks
| #topic New Guides
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| Sparks
| Any new guides?
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| Sparks
| #topic All other business
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| Sparks
| Anyone have anything else?
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| * Sparks thinks we're going to get done early
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| #endmeeting
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