| Sparks
| #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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| Meeting started Thu Oct 15 00:01:25 2009 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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| Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
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| Sparks
| #topic Roll Call
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| * Sparks
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| * ke4qqq
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| * joat .
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| * jjmcd .
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| * joat thinks Spark's calendar is just as busted as his
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| Sparks
| Good group so far
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| Sparks
| joat: My calendar is all messed up now that I'm doing an ST&E
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| * ke4qqq is in and out
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| joat
| Sparks: I'm still sans-calendar
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| joat
| waiting for account
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| * radsy shuffles in
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| * rudi is here
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| Sparks
| Okay, let's get started
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| Sparks
| #topic Beta Release Announcement
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| Sparks
| jjmcd: Go ahead, I think you added this
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| jjmcd
| Well, its no surprise, is it. We need to get working on the release announcement
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| jjmcd
| Isn't the updated GA like a week away? Not sure the exact date
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| jjmcd
| 20th?
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| Sparks
| jjmcd: I honestly haven't had a chance to look at my calendar in days
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| jjmcd
| hehe - yeah, I know what you mean
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| rudi
| November 17, I thought?
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| jjmcd
| SRI - i meant beta
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| jjmcd
| Beta is almost upon us and we need to do the announcement. Not a really big deal, tho, not like GA
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| Sparks
| Can we just take Alpha and just change it to Beta?
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| jjmcd
| Pretty much
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| Sparks
| volunteers?
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| jjmcd
| I can do some with someone to bounce thoughts off
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| jjmcd
| preferably someone who doesn't live upside-down
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| * Sparks is living upside-down in Virginia!
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| jjmcd
| All these upside down guys sleep when I'm awake!
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| jjmcd
| I haven't seen Zach in a while, I'd twist his arm
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| Sparks
| jjmcd: Okay, maybe put something out on the list?
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| jjmcd
| Yeah, maybe poke a few folks
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| Sparks
| Okay... anything else on this topic?
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| Sparks
| #topic f-r-n.rpm
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| Sparks
| jjmcd: Okay, what's up with this?
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| jjmcd
| OK, mostly by way of a heads-up
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| jjmcd
| Our schedule had us doing the beta rpm last tuesday
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| Sparks
| and did "we"?
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| jjmcd
| With the schedule slip, I translated that to yesterday to get the max transations
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| jjmcd
| Turns out, it needed to be done about 4 weeks ago to make it into beta
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| Sparks
| ?!?
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| jjmcd
| Yeah, that's about what I said
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| Sparks
| How did that all work? That doesn't make sense.
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| jjmcd
| So, no f-r-n.rpm in beta
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| jjmcd
| Not sure. A lot changed between the time the schedule came out and when we talked with john and l10n to set it up
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| ke4qqq
| have we followed up with poelcat to make sure our schedule reflects proper date
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| jjmcd
| but also, we weren't paying close attention to the freezes
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| ke4qqq
| for next release
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| jjmcd
| Yes, that was an action item from the meeting, plus, I've been talking with Jesse to better understand the whole process
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| jjmcd
| Which I've mostly been ignoring, sor of do whaterver the sked says
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| jjmcd
| Bottom line, tho, I think is that we really need to own this. Having Jesse and Paul as owners makes us too disconnected
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| jjmcd
| Thats what I have. Other questions?
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| ke4qqq
| what do you mean by "having us own this"
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| jjmcd
| Release notes are owned by paul and jesse, so we can't, for example, submit a koji
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| Sparks
| jjmcd: I think you should be an owner
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| Sparks
| jjmcd: In addition to others as well
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| ke4qqq
| ahhh cvs perms
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| jjmcd
| But first I need to better understand the whole process
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| jjmcd
| I can make a RPM just fine, but I have little concept of what happens after that
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| jjmcd
| In the past I've just handed it to Jesse and magic happens
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| Sparks
| jjmcd: It isn't that difficult to get it through. Heck, I've even done it.
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| jjmcd
| I'm sure it isn't
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| jjmcd
| Just need the map
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| Sparks
| heck, if you can do git, svn, and cvn, then you are golden!
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| Sparks
| jjmcd: I think it's on the wiki... I'll see if I can find it for you
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| jjmcd
| Seems like I found it, and I felt like it had some holes but that was a while ago
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| Sparks
| Okay...
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| Sparks
| anything else on this topic?
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| Sparks
| #topic Status on CMS (Zikula)
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| Sparks
| #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status
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| Sparks
| Any update on this?
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| Sparks
| Anyone?
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| Sparks
| Okay then...
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| Sparks
| #topic Status on CC license rollout.
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| Sparks
| #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule
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| Sparks
| I can't remember if I sent out the message to the list or not, now...
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| rudi
| Will start rebuilding F11 and F12 guides RSN
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| Sparks
| But for those that are onboard, can you modify your license pages using the new publican-fedora brand and redo your uploads to docs.fp.o?
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| Sparks
| I'd like to have everything changed over by next Wednesday.
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| jjmcd
| hehe - I didn't notice, but the RN's for L10N all say CC-BY-SA
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| Sparks
| Cool!
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| Sparks
| :)
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| jjmcd
| Except for Chinese which hasn't run in a while
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| rudi
| Sparks -- will do :)
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| Sparks
| Ya
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| Sparks
| rudi: Cool
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| Sparks
| Okay, anything else on this?
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| jjmcd
| Is the Pravne odrdbe supposed to be always english?
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| Sparks
| is the who?
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| jjmcd
| Legal Notice
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| jjmcd
| It is in English for all langs, although it's title isn't
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| Sparks
| Yes
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| Sparks
| We aren't supposed to translate the legal notice as it might loose something in translation
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| jjmcd
| Makes sense
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| rudi
| jjmcd -- the title should be localised, the text should not
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| jjmcd
| ANd that is the case
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| rudi
| If you see a language where the title isn't localised, it's because the string "legal notice" is missing from the docbooks-locale file currently in Fedora
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| jjmcd
| I see assamese isn't
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| rudi
| There is currently no stylesheet for Assamese at all, even upstream
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| rudi
| I'm working on that with the DocBook community
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| Sparks
| Okay, anything else on this topic?
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| Sparks
| #topic Shared open-source style guide
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| Sparks
| #link https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-June/msg00163.html
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| Sparks
| Does anyone have any updates on this?
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| * Sparks hears crickets chirping
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| Sparks
| Okay, moving on.
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| Sparks
| #topic Guide needs?
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| Sparks
| Any guides have any needs?
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| Sparks
| #topic New Guides
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| Sparks
| Any new guides on the horizon?
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| Sparks
| #topic Other business
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| Sparks
| Anyone have anything else?
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| Sparks
| Anything at all?
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| rudi
| me
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| rudi
| Just an update that Publican 1.0 is very near now -- should be finished within days
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| rudi
| But it won't be in Fedora any time soon
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| jjmcd
| whew
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| Sparks
| rudi: No?
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| rudi
| Because we've been waiting weeks for dependencies get approved
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| rudi
| At this rate, it actually looks like Publican 1.0 will be in *Debian* before it gets into Fedora...
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| Sparks
| Ugh
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| rudi
| (I'm not exaggerating...)
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| Sparks
| Okay... Well, I don't know.
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| Sparks
| Anyone have anything else?
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| Sparks
| Thanks everyone for coming!
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| Sparks
| #endmeeting
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