| =-= ianweller has changed the topic to ``woo marketing meeting
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22:01
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| moixs
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So, let's switch to here for the marketing meeting :)
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22:02
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| ianweller
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themayor: hi
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| themayor
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hey
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22:02
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| themayor
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were in here now?
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22:03
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| stickster
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yup
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| themayor
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okay that works
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22:03
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| themayor
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thanks stickster for setting it up
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22:03
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| * lcafiero has been here
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22:03
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| mizmo
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hi
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22:03
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| moixs
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Can someone else log the meeting too? I usually get disconnected at 23h (in 1h) because my room mate goes to bed and cuts the wifi ;)
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22:03
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| moixs
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Just in case :)
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22:04
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| ianweller
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zodbot also keeps logs
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| MostafaDaneshvar
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hey
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22:04
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| r0xc0rp
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Hey, I'm logging this too if it helps
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22:05
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| moixs
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fine ;)
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22:05
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| themayor
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okay are we all here?
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22:06
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| ianweller
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(raise your hand if you're not here)
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22:06
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| spevack
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Max
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22:06
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| themayor
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roll call please
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22:06
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| moixs
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Steven Moix
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22:06
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| r0xc0rp
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Tiago Vieira
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22:06
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| MostafaDaneshvar
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Mostafa Daneshvar
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22:06
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| themayor
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okay so i assume thats that
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22:07
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| * stickster .
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22:07
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| themayor
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let me pull up the schedule
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22:08
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| ianweller
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and mizmo is here too
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22:08
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| mizmo
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yo
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22:08
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| themayor
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule
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| themayor
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im gonna give a brief go about my stuff and then follow up with people on theirs
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22:09
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| themayor
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the talking points are done
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22:09
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| themayor
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points
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22:09
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| themayor
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stickster: you looked over these, anyone have any feedback?
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22:10
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| * moixs is looking at them right now
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22:10
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| stickster
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themayor: Did you fix the points I discussed with you Friday night?
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22:11
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| moixs
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The separation between different types of users is fine
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22:11
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| themayor
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stickster: yeah some of them i think, is there anything i missed?
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22:11
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| * ianweller has read them and likes them
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22:12
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| themayor
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anyone else?
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22:13
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| spevack
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how much has actually changed since the Alpha version of them?
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22:13
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| themayor
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or are people reading
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22:13
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| * spevack consults the page history
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22:13
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| themayor
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spevack: bits and pieces, i also added some stuff that i spoke to sticster about
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| spevack
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stickster: do you want to follow up with jack post-meeting about any additional comments, so we can lock this page down for beta?
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22:15
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| stickster
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spevack: Yeah, that sounds fine
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22:15
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| stickster
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I don't want to block the rest of the agenda
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22:15
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| stickster
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There's much to do!
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22:15
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| stickster
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Jack, let's get together later on
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22:15
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| themayor
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okay
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| themayor
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okay ian, any updates on the banners and stuff?
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22:17
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| themayor
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wanna tell everyone whats going on with them
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22:17
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| ianweller
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for the pbook?
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22:17
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| ianweller
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or something else
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22:17
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| ianweller
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i'll assume picture book since that's the only thing i actually own on that page
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22:18
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| themayor
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yeah
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22:18
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| themayor
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the banner
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22:18
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| ianweller
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banner has been imported into fedora-web.git and it's on the fp.o chrome
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22:18
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| ianweller
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it has about a 1/3 probability of showing up
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22:18
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| stickster
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ianweller: I saw that change go into git, awesome
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22:18
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| ianweller
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the other 2/3rds is f10 and f11 alpha. so we'll leave those ;)
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22:18
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| themayor
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havent seen one yet
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22:18
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| ianweller
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s/is/are/
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22:18
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| stickster
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ianweller: Yeah, *somebody* will want that stuff too, maybe
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| themayor
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oooh i just saw
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| ianweller
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themayor: :D
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22:19
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| ianweller
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and picture book submissinos are now open.
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22:19
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| ianweller
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i haven't checked the pictures category yet
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22:19
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| themayor
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the three folders or envelope or whatever
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22:19
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| ianweller
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but mdomsch has asked us to take a look at a couple of photos
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22:19
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| ianweller
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they're on the talk page of that submitting page
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22:19
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| themayor
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awesome
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22:20
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| themayor
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so we are well on our way
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22:20
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| ianweller
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yup
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22:20
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| themayor
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please who ever hasnt blogged about it yet, please do so
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22:20
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| ianweller
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yeah
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22:20
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| ianweller
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flood the planet
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22:20
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| themayor
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i will do one tonight
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22:21
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| ianweller
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i'll also be lurking the upload log
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22:21
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| ianweller
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see if any get in without adding the right categories
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| themayor
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awesome
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22:22
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| themayor
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let jus know
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22:22
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| ianweller
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now we await as many pictures as possible
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22:22
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| ianweller
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brno will bring quite a few in
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22:23
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| ianweller
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also, we changed the submission policy slightly
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22:23
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| themayor
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okay so we have on the schedule update the user testimonials
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| * ianweller will wait until pbook comes up again ;)
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22:23
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| themayor
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ianweller: ssorry go ahead, its good that it should be in the log
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22:23
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| ianweller
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oh. ok
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22:23
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| ianweller
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nicu and i were discussing the submission policy
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22:23
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| ianweller
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ther'es now a route for uploading an image if you don't have a release form, and if we would really like to use the photo, we'll ask the photographer to get one
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22:24
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| moixs
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(please refresh the schedule page, I made some changes)
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22:24
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| ianweller
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this would be used for photos taken before the release forms existed
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22:24
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| ianweller
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so that the photographer wouldn't have to get a form signed unless we were fairly certain that the photo was going in the book.
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22:24
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| ianweller
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that's all i changed since spevack's changes shortly after the meeting last week
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22:25
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| themayor
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okay great
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22:25
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| ianweller
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we could still use mockups
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22:25
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| ianweller
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:)
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22:25
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| * ianweller hands the floor back to themayor
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22:26
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| * herlo is here
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| themayor
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okay so one of the tasks is to update the usertestimonials
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22:26
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| spevack
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more specifically
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22:26
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| spevack
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to give the page a fresh outlook
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22:26
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| spevack
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and either try to make it something current and maintainable
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22:26
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| spevack
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or to retire it completely and Archive: it
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22:27
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| spevack
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this came up last week
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22:27
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| spevack
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but there is no owner
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22:27
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| moixs
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As I said last week...too much work for too little right now. We are already lagging behind in this cycle and I don't see it as time well invested.
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22:27
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| themayor
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yeah
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22:27
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| moixs
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other opinions are welcome, but pick it up then :p
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22:27
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| themayor
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i was wondering if anyone was interested
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22:28
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| * spevack agrees that it is a lower priority, but wonders why we haven't tried to get someone to pick it up on the mailing list
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22:28
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| themayor
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but if not we will move on
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22:28
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| spevack
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an email with a vision for what we want the page to be, asking for volunteers
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22:28
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| moixs
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I have a suggestion about this
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22:28
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| spevack
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go ahead
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22:28
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| moixs
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As I quickly told you last week, we are going to work on Fedora's positioning and marketing at school (confirmed today)
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22:29
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| * spevack remembers
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22:29
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| moixs
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I can pick up this task there, and discuss what the purpose of this page should be
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22:29
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| moixs
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come up with ideas etc
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22:30
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| moixs
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This can already help to clarify what it should be, before searching an owner
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22:30
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| themayor
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moixs: do you want to do that one the list and see if anyone wants to help you with it
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22:30
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| moixs
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themayor: at the moment, I'd like to keep it silent, for the next 3 weeks or so.
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22:31
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| themayor
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okay so shall we move it down on the schedule
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22:32
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| moixs
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themayor: but I can temporary take ownership of it
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22:32
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| themayor
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okay so i am moving it into the next step
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22:32
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| themayor
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err, nect phase
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22:32
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| themayor
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and putting your name on it
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22:32
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| moixs
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done
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| themayor
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okay great
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| moixs
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themayor: I added a last point to the beta phase
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| themayor
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okay great
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| themayor
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next topic
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22:33
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| themayor
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the in depth feature focus
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22:33
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| * spevack perks up
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22:34
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| spevack
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features
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22:34
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| themayor
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yes
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22:34
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| spevack
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sorry to interrupt, carry on :)
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22:34
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| themayor
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thanks max for putting them up
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22:34
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| themayor
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stickster has already started work on one of them
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22:35
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| themayor
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i should have a decent version of the kernel mode setting stuff tomorrow aftrenoon
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22:35
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| stickster
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_in_Fedora_11
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22:35
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| themayor
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i was hoping to have it to day but kristian was too busy
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22:35
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| * stickster put his interview on the wiki and hughsie will finish it when he's got time
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22:35
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| themayor
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okay so there are a few that are not picked up yet
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22:36
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| themayor
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volume control
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22:36
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| themayor
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and virt improved console
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22:37
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| themayor
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we should really be on top of these
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22:37
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| stickster
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themayor: I think what's needed is email to the list to explain to people what exactly we want them to do to pick up a featue.
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22:37
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| stickster
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*feature
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22:37
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| spevack
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was there any discussion of these on the list between last week and tonight?
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| themayor
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aside from the brief thing on friday based on what i sent out in the weekend thing no
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22:38
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| themayor
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you want me to send out something?
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22:38
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| * spevack thought we talked about that on thursday
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22:38
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| spevack
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so... yeah
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22:38
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| themayor
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no we said i was going to work on mine
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22:39
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| themayor
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we didnt say send something to the list
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22:39
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| themayor
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at least not that i recall
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22:39
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| themayor
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sorry if im mistaken
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22:39
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| spevack
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well, let's get some list discussion
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22:39
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| themayor
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okay ill send that out after the meeting then
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22:39
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| spevack
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themayor: i think the idea was to get started on yours, and use that as a template to generate some discussion on the list and hopefully get other people to see "oh, I can do one too!"
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22:39
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| spevack
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kind of like what stickster did
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22:39
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| themayor
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yeah i asked kristian for some time
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22:40
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| stickster
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I'm not saying my page is perfect, but if you think mine works OK, it's up for using as a template.
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22:40
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| stickster
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In fact, if anyone has some ideas for how to improve mine, I would love to do so
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22:40
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| themayor
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its good its a start
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22:40
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| spevack
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ok, so we need an email to the list that shows the main f11 in-depth feature page, stickster's example page showing a work in progress that has just started, and asking for volunteers for the others
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22:40
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| themayor
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sure
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22:41
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| themayor
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and i will post my page tomorrow right after the readiness meeting
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22:41
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| moixs
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Be sure to explain the difference between the talking points and the in-depth pages in the e-mail. It's not obvious right now.
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22:41
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| spevack
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brilliant
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22:41
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| spevack
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moixs: that is true, as evidenced by the thread last week on the list, i think Rahul started it, and stickster and i chimed in
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22:42
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| themayor
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moixs: absolutely, weve spoke about it before but i will do so again
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22:42
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| moixs
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Are we done with the short-term task list?
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22:43
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| themayor
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one last quick thing
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| * herlo suggests we put these pages into a category so we can all pick and choose from them in one central place
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22:44
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| themayor
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tomorrow, we are having the beta readiness meeting
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22:44
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| themayor
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herlo: the in depth features?
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22:44
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| herlo
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yes
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22:44
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| herlo
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themayor: it's simple, a category will help those who want to take one but don't know what's there to take.
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22:44
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| stickster
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herlo: That's funny, I was thinking the same thing
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22:44
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| herlo
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like me
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22:44
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| herlo
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:)
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22:45
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| themayor
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stickster: are you game for doing that or do you need some help?
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22:45
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| stickster
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herlo: Maybe I can move that page properly. Let me try.
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22:45
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| herlo
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well, it just needs a [Category:F11 In Depth Feature]] (or similar) tag at the bottom
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22:45
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| themayor
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yeah
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22:45
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| themayor
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and then each page needs one as is created
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22:45
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| herlo
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then everyone can go to /wiki/Category:F11_In_Depth_Feature and see the list
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| herlo
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themayor: yes, and if you make dummy pages with nothing on them, it's easy to find and create content for those who want to help
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22:46
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| themayor
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yup
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22:47
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| * herlo missed most of last week's meeting, but wants to help. Where's the list of features to work through?
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22:47
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| themayor
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herlo: whats left is volume control
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22:48
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| themayor
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and virt improved console
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22:48
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| herlo
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oh
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22:48
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| herlo
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is there a list?
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22:48
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| themayor
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yes
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22:48
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| spevack
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features
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22:48
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| herlo
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I can go through and update the pages iwth the category on them really quick
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22:48
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| themayor
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_in-depth_features
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22:48
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| themayor
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thanks spevack
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22:48
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| stickster
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herlo: OK,done
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22:48
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| stickster
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https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Category:F11_in-depth_features
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22:49
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| herlo
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stickster: sweet!
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22:49
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| * herlo also wants to point out that it seems like double effort to create a page with that info and have a category page, since category pages can have content too
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22:50
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| herlo
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I wonder if anyone would be opposed to moving the content from the F11_in-depth_features page to the F11_in-depth_features category page?
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22:50
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| spevack
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whatever works
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22:50
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| herlo
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well, it's already done this time, so I don't want to step on anyone's toes
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22:50
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| stickster
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herlo: Already eon
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22:50
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| stickster
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*done
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22:51
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| * herlo double looks
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22:51
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| herlo
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so it is
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22:51
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| * herlo missed that point before, even though he looked at it
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22:51
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| herlo
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okay, ignore me, I'll go and make those pages show up on the category page...
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22:51
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| themayor
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okay
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22:52
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| themayor
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so next
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22:52
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| themayor
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the beta readiness meeting is tomorrow
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22:52
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| themayor
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does anyone want me to bring up anything
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22:53
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| moixs
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not really on my side
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22:53
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| themayor
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this is going to be an opportunity to talk with art and docs also about anything we need to coordinate
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22:54
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| themayor
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thats really what i hope to get out of it
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22:54
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| stickster
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themayor: Exactly, it's not just "are we ready," but "are we missing anything that we need from some other team, or are they missing something from us"
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22:54
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| themayor
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yup
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22:54
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| =-= mizmo is now known as mizmo-out
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22:55
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| stickster
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OK, sounds like that's a big silence == "no"
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22:56
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| themayor
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yeah
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22:57
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| themayor
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alright
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22:57
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| themayor
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so other than that, lets talk about the picture book real quick, although we really got everything in
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22:57
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| ianweller
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PICTURE!
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22:57
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| stickster
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BOOK!
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22:57
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| ianweller
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,,,
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22:58
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| ianweller
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oh ok you got it
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22:58
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| ianweller
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umm i think i talked everything i needed to earlier in the meeting. any questions?
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22:58
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| themayor
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we also have things for next week, we should make sure people have their names by them
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22:59
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| stickster
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What's up for next week?
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22:59
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| moixs
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On the task list you mean? We are pretty much set.
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| moixs
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On a quick note, I asked people who subscribed to the news dis. network to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications
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23:00
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| moixs
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i have to kick the germans, hindis and spanish. I'll do it tomorrow
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23:00
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| moixs
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For the other languages, the list is pretty good
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23:01
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| moixs
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eof
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23:01
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| themayor
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brief famsco on stuff
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23:01
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| themayor
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who here goes to the famsco meetings?
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23:01
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| stickster
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I think spevack is usually at them
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23:01
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| themayor
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max can you pick that up then?
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23:02
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| themayor
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i think he left
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23:03
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| themayor
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anyway
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23:04
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| themayor
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we are over time already
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23:04
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| moixs
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ok, let's call it a day then :)
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23:04
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| themayor
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lets call it a day, we have stuff to do for next week
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