| themayor
| This is the Fedora Marketing Meeting
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| herlo
| .fas herlo
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| zodbot
| herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1@gmail.com>
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| themayor
| anyone else joining us?
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| * GeroldKa wants if allowed
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| themayor
| hmmm, yanstadel and e1luca are supposed to be here
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| spevack
| i'm here
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| themayor
| hey mac
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| GeroldKa
| yes, but only because you hung up the phone :-) Max
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| spevack
| heh
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| GeroldKa
| Oh, MacMax
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| themayor
| Mad Max
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| GeroldKa
| wasn't it MAD Max
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| GeroldKa
| *bg*
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| spevack
| Going Mad
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| GeroldKa
| it's a kind of metamorphose :-P
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| spevack
| themayor: let's roll
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| spevack
| i guess
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| spevack
| ianweller: ping
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| themayor
| yup
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| themayor
| okay
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| themayor
| so next week is the rc meeting
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| moixs
| (please reload https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule, I just updated some points)
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| moixs
| And what are you going to discuss themayor, who is attending?
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| themayor
| one second ill paste the list
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| spevack
| themayor: weren't you planning on some additional meetings w/ art team and docs to coordinate?
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| themayor
| Ambassadors -- David Nalley
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| themayor
| Artwork/Design -- Máirín Duffy
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| themayor
| Documentation -- Eric Christensen
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| themayor
| FESCo -- Jon Stanley
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| themayor
| Fedora Engineering Manager -- Tom "Spot" Callaway
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| themayor
| Fedora Project Leader -- Paul Frields
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| themayor
| Infrastructure -- Mike McGrath
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| themayor
| Marketing -- Jack Aboutboul
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| themayor
| Quality -- James Laska
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| spevack
| it would be a good idea to do that before the RC meeting
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| themayor
| Release Engineering -- Jesse Keating
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| themayor
| Translation -- Diego Búrigo Zacarão
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| themayor
| Websites -- Ricky Zhou
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| themayor
| Facilitator -- John Poelstra
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| themayor
| yes i already spoke to diego a couple of times
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| themayor
| its been hard getting mo to find free time
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| themayor
| but i will talk to her by then
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| themayor
| the truth, i might go to westford
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| themayor
| because we also need pics for the picture book
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| * moixs still needs to upload one
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| themayor
| yes please do
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| themayor
| anyway
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| themayor
| lets move quick
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| themayor
| so the meeting is next week
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| themayor
| basically what happens at the meeting is we try and see if anyone has any big blockers
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| themayor
| and if any team is waiting on another team
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| themayor
| we arent waiting on anyone for release stuff
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| themayor
| and i dont think anyone is waiting on us
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| moixs
| okay, seems reasonable :)
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| themayor
| the big thing i really wanted to talk about was the release announcement
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| themayor
| and the press kits
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| themayor
| i would like to have them finalized in the next couple of weeks and passed on to translation
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| themayor
| and have art look them over
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| moixs
| For the final release you mean?
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| themayor
| yes
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| themayor
| this is all for final
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| themayor
| anyway, would like to see US work on the release announcement and related stuff this time
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| themayor
| i think that is our responsibility and we shouldnt have to chuck it on other groups
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| moixs
| okay, I already made a release announcement, but in FR as usual. I meade 2 of them in fact...technical and non technical.
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| themayor
| also thats the fun stuff to do
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| themayor
| well the release announcement isnt supposed to be technical too much
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| themayor
| just like all the other ones
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| moixs
| yes, it's moderatly technical :p
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| moixs
| yes
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| themayor
| yeah moderately
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| themayor
| spevack: doesnt jesse do them now?
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| spevack
| no
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| spevack
| docs writes them
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| spevack
| jesse just adds a little blurb on the top
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| moixs
| yep, they did for beta
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| spevack
| that is how it was for F11 beta, f13 can confirm
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| themayor
| yeah okay good, thats what i thought
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| spevack
| f13 gets to do the fun part :)
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| themayor
| lucky bashterd
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| f13
| I gotta get some perks
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| f13
| being up at 4~am sucks
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| themayor
| hahaha, sorry
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| themayor
| anyway
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| moixs
| Btw, it's perfectly fine for docs to do these, if they communicate witht the translation teams.
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| themayor
| i think much like the talking points, we need to have a one pager like "What You Need to Know About F11"
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| moixs
| We "just" have to activate the NDN at the end
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| themayor
| okay so is that what we want to do
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| themayor
| yes
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| themayor
| last time we did well
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| moixs
| yep
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| themayor
| we need to meet with everyone the day before the release
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| moixs
| I faced one problem for the beta
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| moixs
| I wasn't completely aware which translations were made, so the portuguese translated the text 2 times...
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| themayor
| okay so maybe we should add a checklist
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| moixs
| So it would be nice to have links to all the translations 2-3 days before :D
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| moixs
| lesson learned :D
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| themayor
| okay so how about we set a 1 week deadline
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| moixs
| you should really handle it in the RC meeting
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| moixs
| I think
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| themayor
| no im saying 1 week before the release to have everything
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| moixs
| ah, 2-3 days is enough
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| themayor
| and yes, i will talk with diego before the RC meeting
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| moixs
| (k)
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| themayor
| moixs: yeah if we say 1 week itll happen 2-3 days before right
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| moixs
| :D
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| moixs
| What we need is
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| themayor
| okay
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| themayor
| yeah
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| themayor
| go ahead
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| moixs
| 1) When the docs produce the release announcement
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| moixs
| 2) If translation can provide all the NDN languages in time
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| moixs
| and that's about it
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| themayor
| okay i will talk to diego on friday about it
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| themayor
| and art
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| themayor
| idk art seems to be hard to get in touch with
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| themayor
| they are soooo busy with stuff
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| moixs
| yup, for the press kit we need some form of "finalized" art
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| moixs
| and for the screenshots page :p
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| themayor
| we need them to go over what we come up with to make sure we are using the logo properly, etc
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| moixs
| too
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| themayor
| okay so right now, lets make a task list of thing we are working on need to get done
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| themayor
| moixs: you want to go first?
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| moixs
| okay
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| moixs
| The most urgent thing are the press kits IMO. As you have probably seen, there are some available in FR
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| moixs
| There is also one in EN
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| themayor
| correct
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| moixs
| Somehow, we need to mix them and translate the lot :D
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| themayor
| okay
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| themayor
| so you sent me the press kits today
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| moixs
| First question I see: which format?
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| themayor
| pdf and on the web
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| moixs
| yep, to you and herlo, so you het an idea how they look like
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| * herlo is looking forward to them
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| themayor
| okay, i have the pdf of the stuff
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| themayor
| i will get those translated
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| themayor
| and merged in with what we have
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| themayor
| im going to be working on the press kit this weekend
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| moixs
| If we want to print them, we need some weeks (print + distribution to the right people)
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| themayor
| i hope to have the first solid "beta" next week
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| moixs
| so the delay is quite short
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| =-= wwoods_ is now known as wwoods
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| themayor
| okay anything else from you
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| moixs
| Do you want to taky my design for the printed kits and yours for the web kits?
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| moixs
| I'm done :)
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| themayor
| yeah sounds good
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| themayor
| anyway what we are working on is standard page layout
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| moixs
| I'll provide the SVG files as soon as I have them
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| themayor
| yours is more complex but better to hand out
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| themayor
| okay i look forward to seeing them
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| moixs
| yes, it was designed only for that
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| themayor
| other than the press kits, is there anything else of importance?
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| themayor
| thats a big focus as it should well be
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| themayor
| i was hoping yanstadel would be here to talk about what he is doing with the faces of fedora stuff too but he isnt
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| * herlo has one thing to mention
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| themayor
| yeah b ro
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| herlo
| but it's not really related to release stuff
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| herlo
| it's about Fedora Classroom, and a request for promotion from Marketing.
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| themayor
| okay go
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| herlo
| we're going to be changing the way it works from two sessions scheduled to a whole day of presentations, once a month
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| herlo
| the goal is to focus on those who are less familiar with the tools in Fedora. We've been looking at #fedora and fedoraforum.org as our main focus.
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| herlo
| this is so we can bring more contributors (hopefully) through that channel
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| herlo
| but we were wondering if there was a good way to promote this easily and through the same distribution channels used by Fedora Marketing.
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| herlo
| thoughts?
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| moixs
| You want to find people to give classes, right?
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| herlo
| and people to attend, yes
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| herlo
| we're looking to the Linux community at large here, at least I think that's where we want to go
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| herlo
| currently, it's more of a limited scope. It'd be a perfect op to get new contributors excited about certain topics
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| moixs
| I think that your best bet would be to contact different community Fedora websites (I can handle it for fedora-fr)
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| moixs
| and ask them to post a news
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| moixs
| or put a sticky on the forums
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| herlo
| yeah, that could work.
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| moixs
| But it doesn't really fit the standard distribution channels
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| moixs
| (I think)
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| herlo
| I'm hoping that this wouldn't just be for Fedora Classroom, however. I can see this being a more general approach to marketing Fedora overall. Think about all the services we provide and maybe we could do a spotlight or something once a month/quarter in Fedora classroom.
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| herlo
| anyway, it's just a thought, I'd like to leave it like thsi for now, and get some people mulling it over and talk next time
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| moixs
| Oh yes, this isn't a problem...for these kind of things we can use the NDN
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| herlo
| thanks themayor
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| herlo
| thanks moixs
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| themayor
| herlo: its good
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| herlo
| :) I'm glad you guys like the idea...
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| themayor
| i think also doing something on marketing once a month is a good idea if people want to hear it
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| =-= johe is now known as johe_
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| moixs
| But we need a complete "story" about the classrooms then, to make interesting :D
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| herlo
| moixs: I agree
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| * herlo will be working on that
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| themayor
| okay so herlo you want to work on that end of things and put something up on the wiki by next meeting?
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| moixs
| herlo: fine, for the distribution it needs to be in the next 12 weeks or 2-3 weeks after the F11 release. Too much stress on the media otherwise :p
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| herlo
| I will do my best yes
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| moixs
| 1-2, not 12
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| herlo
| moixs: yeah, just putting the seeds in now, to get started
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| themayor
| yes, but for now its good to start planting some seeds on the wiki
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| themayor
| herlo: exactly :)
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| herlo
| yep
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| * herlo has a general plan in mind, so I'll start with Fedora Classroom as an example.
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| moixs
| Ok, next point?
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| moixs
| I want to release the "(Wiki) Own, clean, revitalize UserTestimonials" task. I picked it up to discuss its usefulness with my class during the last weeks.
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| moixs
| We discussed about it :)
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| moixs
| And considered it useless with our current manpower (or lack of)
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| moixs
| Any comments?
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| themayor
| yes
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| themayor
| i think we should go ahead and do it
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| themayor
| i started getting testimonials
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| moixs
| can you take ownership of it?
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| themayor
| so put it under my name
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| moixs
| ok, I'll change it on the wiki, thanks :)
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| themayor
| no problem
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| moixs
| done
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| themayor
| okay thats fine
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| themayor
| alright, i guess the main overbearing things are press kits and we have part of that done already
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| moixs
| I also added you for the press kit task
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| moixs
| yep
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| moixs
| looks like we are done for this meeting?
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| themayor
| yup, alright, im going to aim for next week to have them at a solid beta point looking for people to overlook them
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| themayor
| and then we can move from there to post-release tasks
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| themayor
| it sounds good
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