| themayor
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This is the Fedora Marketing Meeting
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| herlo
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.fas herlo
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herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1@gmail.com>
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| themayor
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anyone else joining us?
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| themayor
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hmmm, yanstadel and e1luca are supposed to be here
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| spevack
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i'm here
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| themayor
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hey mac
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| GeroldKa
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yes, but only because you hung up the phone :-) Max
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| spevack
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heh
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| GeroldKa
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Oh, MacMax
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| themayor
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Mad Max
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| GeroldKa
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wasn't it MAD Max
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| GeroldKa
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*bg*
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| spevack
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Going Mad
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| GeroldKa
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it's a kind of metamorphose :-P
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themayor: let's roll
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| spevack
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i guess
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| spevack
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ianweller: ping
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| themayor
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yup
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| themayor
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okay
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| themayor
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so next week is the rc meeting
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| moixs
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(please reload https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_F11_schedule, I just updated some points)
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| moixs
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And what are you going to discuss themayor, who is attending?
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| themayor
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one second ill paste the list
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| spevack
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themayor: weren't you planning on some additional meetings w/ art team and docs to coordinate?
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| themayor
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Ambassadors -- David Nalley
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| themayor
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Artwork/Design -- Máirín Duffy
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Documentation -- Eric Christensen
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| themayor
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FESCo -- Jon Stanley
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| themayor
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Fedora Engineering Manager -- Tom "Spot" Callaway
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| themayor
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Fedora Project Leader -- Paul Frields
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| themayor
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Infrastructure -- Mike McGrath
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| themayor
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Marketing -- Jack Aboutboul
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| themayor
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Quality -- James Laska
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| spevack
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it would be a good idea to do that before the RC meeting
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| themayor
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Release Engineering -- Jesse Keating
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| themayor
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Translation -- Diego Búrigo Zacarão
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| themayor
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Websites -- Ricky Zhou
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| themayor
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Facilitator -- John Poelstra
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| themayor
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yes i already spoke to diego a couple of times
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| themayor
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its been hard getting mo to find free time
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| themayor
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but i will talk to her by then
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| themayor
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the truth, i might go to westford
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| themayor
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because we also need pics for the picture book
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| * moixs still needs to upload one
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| themayor
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yes please do
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| themayor
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anyway
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| themayor
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lets move quick
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| themayor
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so the meeting is next week
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| themayor
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basically what happens at the meeting is we try and see if anyone has any big blockers
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| themayor
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and if any team is waiting on another team
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| themayor
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we arent waiting on anyone for release stuff
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| themayor
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and i dont think anyone is waiting on us
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| moixs
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okay, seems reasonable :)
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| themayor
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the big thing i really wanted to talk about was the release announcement
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| themayor
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and the press kits
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| themayor
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i would like to have them finalized in the next couple of weeks and passed on to translation
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| themayor
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and have art look them over
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| moixs
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For the final release you mean?
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| themayor
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yes
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| themayor
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this is all for final
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| themayor
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anyway, would like to see US work on the release announcement and related stuff this time
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| themayor
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i think that is our responsibility and we shouldnt have to chuck it on other groups
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| moixs
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okay, I already made a release announcement, but in FR as usual. I meade 2 of them in fact...technical and non technical.
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| themayor
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also thats the fun stuff to do
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| themayor
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well the release announcement isnt supposed to be technical too much
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| themayor
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just like all the other ones
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| moixs
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yes, it's moderatly technical :p
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| moixs
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yes
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| themayor
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yeah moderately
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| themayor
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spevack: doesnt jesse do them now?
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| spevack
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no
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docs writes them
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| spevack
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jesse just adds a little blurb on the top
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| moixs
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yep, they did for beta
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| spevack
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that is how it was for F11 beta, f13 can confirm
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| themayor
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yeah okay good, thats what i thought
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| spevack
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f13 gets to do the fun part :)
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| themayor
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lucky bashterd
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| f13
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I gotta get some perks
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| f13
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being up at 4~am sucks
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| themayor
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hahaha, sorry
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| themayor
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anyway
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| moixs
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Btw, it's perfectly fine for docs to do these, if they communicate witht the translation teams.
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| themayor
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i think much like the talking points, we need to have a one pager like "What You Need to Know About F11"
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| moixs
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We "just" have to activate the NDN at the end
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| themayor
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okay so is that what we want to do
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| themayor
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yes
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| themayor
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last time we did well
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| moixs
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yep
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| themayor
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we need to meet with everyone the day before the release
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| moixs
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I faced one problem for the beta
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| moixs
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I wasn't completely aware which translations were made, so the portuguese translated the text 2 times...
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| themayor
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okay so maybe we should add a checklist
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| moixs
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So it would be nice to have links to all the translations 2-3 days before :D
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| moixs
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lesson learned :D
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| themayor
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okay so how about we set a 1 week deadline
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| moixs
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you should really handle it in the RC meeting
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| moixs
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I think
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| themayor
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no im saying 1 week before the release to have everything
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| moixs
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ah, 2-3 days is enough
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| themayor
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and yes, i will talk with diego before the RC meeting
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| moixs
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(k)
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| themayor
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moixs: yeah if we say 1 week itll happen 2-3 days before right
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:D
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| moixs
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What we need is
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| themayor
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okay
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| themayor
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yeah
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go ahead
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| moixs
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1) When the docs produce the release announcement
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2) If translation can provide all the NDN languages in time
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| moixs
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and that's about it
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| themayor
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okay i will talk to diego on friday about it
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| themayor
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and art
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| themayor
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idk art seems to be hard to get in touch with
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| themayor
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they are soooo busy with stuff
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| moixs
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yup, for the press kit we need some form of "finalized" art
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| moixs
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and for the screenshots page :p
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| themayor
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we need them to go over what we come up with to make sure we are using the logo properly, etc
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| moixs
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too
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| themayor
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okay so right now, lets make a task list of thing we are working on need to get done
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| themayor
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moixs: you want to go first?
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| moixs
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okay
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| moixs
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The most urgent thing are the press kits IMO. As you have probably seen, there are some available in FR
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| moixs
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There is also one in EN
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| themayor
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correct
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| moixs
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Somehow, we need to mix them and translate the lot :D
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| themayor
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okay
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| themayor
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so you sent me the press kits today
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| moixs
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First question I see: which format?
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| themayor
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pdf and on the web
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| moixs
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yep, to you and herlo, so you het an idea how they look like
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| * herlo is looking forward to them
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| themayor
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okay, i have the pdf of the stuff
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| themayor
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i will get those translated
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| themayor
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and merged in with what we have
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| themayor
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im going to be working on the press kit this weekend
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| moixs
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If we want to print them, we need some weeks (print + distribution to the right people)
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| themayor
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i hope to have the first solid "beta" next week
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| moixs
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so the delay is quite short
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| =-= wwoods_ is now known as wwoods
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| themayor
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okay anything else from you
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| moixs
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Do you want to taky my design for the printed kits and yours for the web kits?
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| moixs
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I'm done :)
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| themayor
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yeah sounds good
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| themayor
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anyway what we are working on is standard page layout
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| moixs
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I'll provide the SVG files as soon as I have them
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| themayor
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yours is more complex but better to hand out
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| themayor
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okay i look forward to seeing them
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| moixs
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yes, it was designed only for that
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| themayor
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other than the press kits, is there anything else of importance?
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| themayor
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thats a big focus as it should well be
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| themayor
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i was hoping yanstadel would be here to talk about what he is doing with the faces of fedora stuff too but he isnt
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| * herlo has one thing to mention
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| themayor
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yeah b ro
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| herlo
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but it's not really related to release stuff
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it's about Fedora Classroom, and a request for promotion from Marketing.
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| themayor
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okay go
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| herlo
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we're going to be changing the way it works from two sessions scheduled to a whole day of presentations, once a month
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the goal is to focus on those who are less familiar with the tools in Fedora. We've been looking at #fedora and fedoraforum.org as our main focus.
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| herlo
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this is so we can bring more contributors (hopefully) through that channel
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| herlo
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but we were wondering if there was a good way to promote this easily and through the same distribution channels used by Fedora Marketing.
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| herlo
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thoughts?
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| moixs
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You want to find people to give classes, right?
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| herlo
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and people to attend, yes
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| herlo
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we're looking to the Linux community at large here, at least I think that's where we want to go
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| herlo
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currently, it's more of a limited scope. It'd be a perfect op to get new contributors excited about certain topics
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| moixs
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I think that your best bet would be to contact different community Fedora websites (I can handle it for fedora-fr)
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| moixs
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and ask them to post a news
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| moixs
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or put a sticky on the forums
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| herlo
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yeah, that could work.
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| moixs
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But it doesn't really fit the standard distribution channels
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| moixs
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(I think)
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| herlo
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I'm hoping that this wouldn't just be for Fedora Classroom, however. I can see this being a more general approach to marketing Fedora overall. Think about all the services we provide and maybe we could do a spotlight or something once a month/quarter in Fedora classroom.
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| herlo
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anyway, it's just a thought, I'd like to leave it like thsi for now, and get some people mulling it over and talk next time
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| moixs
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Oh yes, this isn't a problem...for these kind of things we can use the NDN
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| herlo
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thanks themayor
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| herlo
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thanks moixs
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| themayor
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herlo: its good
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| herlo
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:) I'm glad you guys like the idea...
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| themayor
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i think also doing something on marketing once a month is a good idea if people want to hear it
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| =-= johe is now known as johe_
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| moixs
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But we need a complete "story" about the classrooms then, to make interesting :D
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| herlo
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moixs: I agree
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| * herlo will be working on that
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| themayor
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okay so herlo you want to work on that end of things and put something up on the wiki by next meeting?
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| moixs
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herlo: fine, for the distribution it needs to be in the next 12 weeks or 2-3 weeks after the F11 release. Too much stress on the media otherwise :p
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| herlo
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I will do my best yes
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| moixs
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1-2, not 12
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| herlo
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moixs: yeah, just putting the seeds in now, to get started
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| themayor
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yes, but for now its good to start planting some seeds on the wiki
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| themayor
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herlo: exactly :)
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| herlo
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yep
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| * herlo has a general plan in mind, so I'll start with Fedora Classroom as an example.
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| moixs
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Ok, next point?
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| moixs
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I want to release the "(Wiki) Own, clean, revitalize UserTestimonials" task. I picked it up to discuss its usefulness with my class during the last weeks.
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22:45
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| moixs
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We discussed about it :)
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| moixs
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And considered it useless with our current manpower (or lack of)
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| moixs
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Any comments?
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| themayor
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yes
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| themayor
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i think we should go ahead and do it
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22:46
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| themayor
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i started getting testimonials
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| moixs
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can you take ownership of it?
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22:47
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| themayor
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so put it under my name
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22:47
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| moixs
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ok, I'll change it on the wiki, thanks :)
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| themayor
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no problem
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| moixs
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done
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| themayor
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okay thats fine
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| themayor
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alright, i guess the main overbearing things are press kits and we have part of that done already
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| moixs
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I also added you for the press kit task
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| moixs
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yep
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| moixs
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looks like we are done for this meeting?
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| themayor
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yup, alright, im going to aim for next week to have them at a solid beta point looking for people to overlook them
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| themayor
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and then we can move from there to post-release tasks
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| themayor
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it sounds good
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