| themayor
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hey everybody
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its meeting time
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fedora marketing meeting
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roll call
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| themayor
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.fas jack
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| moixs
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.fas moixs
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| themayor
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whoops
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moixs: moixs <steven.moix@axianet.ch>
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| themayor
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hmm, i dont show up there
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| moixs
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And that's all?! :D
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i guess so
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let's start then?
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yeah
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okay
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so im just gonna give my quick agenda for the next week
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couple of things
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first
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i was in westford
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i did some audio for podcasts
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so im working on that
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i also have a couple more to do now
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with jesse and lennart
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theres thaty
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and then theres the press kit which i promised to mo and the art team but i want us to take a look at first
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but i cant send it yet, im still working on it
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ok, throw it on the mailinglist asap then :)
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and then finishing tightening up the rest of the features stuff
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yeah i will
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stickster: while we talk about podcasts, did you contact Leo Laporte for one, as suggested by someone on the ambassador list?
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| * stickster is here late, sorry
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what do you mean?
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like asking him to do a podcast with us?
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yes
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i can ask him, if we want, i know the guy
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He has an open source podcast
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yeah i will email him as soon as the meeting is over
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| moixs
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look with stickster, he replied on the ambassador ML :p
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And this guy has a huge audience :)
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stickster: are you down for doing it?
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| * stickster looking for that email
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I'm up for doing interviews in general, so sure!
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okay i will email leo and set it up
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moixs: Where is this post on the ambassadors list? I can't find it
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He does podcasts for a living, so he might be quite busy
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I'm already over 2000 for today only
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stickster: no idea, I just remember someone proposing this a while ago
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yeah the email is getting to be a problem in general
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stickster: dont worry, im quite confident we can get a slot
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I just unsubscribed from some ML this week, too much, I wasn't reading them anyway
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so, maybe next point :D
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yeah
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also
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i just want to say
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we should aim to have anything and everything done as much as possible, as close to complete for next week
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because if anything needs to go to translation or art, etc
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| herlo
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I'm working on the sugar desktop views
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| themayor
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awesome
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| moixs
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The screenshot task is almost done yes, herlo is creating some sugar ones
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moixs: awesome
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| moixs
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And i need someone with a working fingerprint reader
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| themayor
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i dont have one
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to take a screenshot about this feature
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| moixs
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mine isn't supported :p
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| themayor
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send a request to fedora-list and offer some free schwag or something in return
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moixs: is it on a laptop?
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themayor: yes, but it's too recent..no drivers for it yet
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ah, what laptop
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| moixs
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Btw, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Screenshot_Tour and you see the free spot
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| moixs
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Lenovo x301
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| themayor
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nice machine
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| moixs
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This fingerprint reader is common to al lrevent lenovo models :/
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recent
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| moixs
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So, does someone have a fingerprint reader here? :D
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moixs: I could probalby do the fingerprint reader stuff too
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moixs: however, I'm not sure what's changed compared to thinkfinger
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http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Fingerprint
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moixs: aha, was just about to ask
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a screenshot with the gui open will do it
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| themayor
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yeah a significant maount
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oh, I can do that
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Are you happy with the other screens?
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I tried to show the important features, and "important" applications
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or catchy ones
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I assume you are asking themayor
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everyone :)
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yes its cool
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oh is this a marketing meeting?
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| moixs
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yes :D
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| * ianweller is here ;)
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lol
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okay great next topic
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stickster had a few questions which i think are valid and we need to address
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first, related to the print and podcast interviews
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i am going to post the podcasts on my blog
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and put up the sources on the marketing page
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does that sound okay to everyone?
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All at once? In what order? What's in them?
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no one at a time
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What are they about?
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once a week until release
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| themayor
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so for the most part they are about features
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new stuff in fedora
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| themayor
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and also all of them ask the question, are you proud of our achievement and what do you think the future holds
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It would be great to have them all at release time, so we can link to them in the news
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themayor: I want details.
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| themayor
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yes i want them all to be out by release time
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are they going on Fedora TV?
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| stickster
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What are the subjects for each podcast?
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| themayor
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the one with spot is about fedora in general, where we've come from, where we are going
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the one with ajax is about X and the new KMS stuff and the future of displays on linuc
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the one with jesse which i am about to do is about ext4 and fedora in general. what all these releases have meant, how is fedora put together, how do we get people to contribute
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Those all sound very cool.
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I'm hoping to have mine re: Moksha and PackageKit done this week
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awesome
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and we will have them all up for distribution on the site
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okay herlo thanks for the offer on the fingerprint thing
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bye bye herlo :)
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otherwise, moixs whats going on with the ndn for release
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themayor: as discussed by you...3-4 weeks ago, docs is creating the release announcement, you should poke the translation people and give it to me 3-4 days before the release date.
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Then I'll manage the distribution as usual
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stickster: when is the release announcement supposed to be done?
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themayor: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-docs-tasks.html
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May 20-22 according to the schedule
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only in EN or already translated?
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i think only in
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EN
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That's damn short
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That's produced by the Docs team
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If we want a longer lead time, then I would say the next thing themayor should do is email the f-marketing-list and f-docs-list and ask to revise that timeline
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What I worry about is the translation
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| stickster
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You could suggest, say, the 12th of May, which gives almost two weeks for translation
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| themayor
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yes true
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| themayor
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are you guys up to that?
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the sooner, the better
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themayor: OK, so you'll email today then?
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| moixs
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Honestly, it shouldn't take Docs too long for this, as it's mostly a revamp of the announcements already made
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| stickster
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There is usually a "thematic" part that is probably not good material for translation because it tends to be regional in nature -- either slang or other idiomatic use
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| stickster
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But local teams could use it as a general basis and then come up with their own meaningful language.
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yes
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i can send it right now
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| stickster
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The second part of the announcement usually contains facts and is more "straight talk." That part is much easier to translate, and might not even change much from the F-10 version.
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| themayor
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in that same vein, we should coordinate with ambassadors about saturating the web
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| themayor
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moixs: do you want to take that on as part of the ndn portion of tasks?
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| moixs
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sure
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| moixs
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I'll use the ambassador list for that
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| themayor
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okay we need to devise a plan
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| themayor
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i suggest thisd
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| themayor
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hmm
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| themayor
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i had an idea but i changed it
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| moixs
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what a good plan :D
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| themayor
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hahahaha
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22:45
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| themayor
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okay no lets do this instead
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| themayor
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each ndn person has their blanket responsibility for their language for the press
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22:45
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| themayor
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each person should also be responsible for following up that coverage
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22:45
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| themayor
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do we want to say that?
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| themayor
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so like monitoring whats going on, putting it back in the wiki
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| moixs
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It's already written and part of the job
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| moixs
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(in theory)
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| themayor
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well we need to make it in practice
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| moixs
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Yes, people don't do it now, and we can use the ambassadors for that
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22:46
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| moixs
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They probably already do it "naturally"
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22:47
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| moixs
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But I'll specify that point in the mail
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22:47
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| themayor
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okay so we should coordinate with the ambassadors to follow the coverage and put it up on the wiki and let us know when something is needed
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| moixs
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yes
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22:47
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| themayor
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and ambassadors should be responsible for doing social media as well
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| themayor
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digg, slashdot, etc
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| themayor
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stickster: is someone responsible for it now?
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22:48
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| themayor
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because we always end up having duplicate posts
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| stickster
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themayor: One of the reasons that has happened in the past is that there's not been any clear plan from Marketing on who is filing posts for which sites.
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| moixs
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NDN is *supposed* to manage that
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22:49
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| stickster
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themayor: This is the opportunity to make that happen so that we can correct the problem. ;-)
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| moixs
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# English: Jack, Shambo
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| themayor
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okay so if its up to us, we can do it, i just wanted to make sure no one was already tasked with it
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| themayor
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do we have a list of the common social media sites we usually target? i guess we can get that from ambassadors
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22:51
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| moixs
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We should relaunch an update of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications
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22:52
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and add it there
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moixs: do you want to send a thread to ambassadors and marketing to ask people what social media sites people usually like to target so that we can update the list?
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22:52
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| themayor
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but lay out this plan as well in the post
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22:53
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| stickster
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themayor: Beyond social media, we need a plan for filing stories with the news sites too.
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| themayor
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not just ask them the question
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| stickster
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OSnews, slashdot, LWN, etc.
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| themayor
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stickster: we have one, thats the ndn
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| moixs
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yes :D
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| stickster
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RIght -- so these are done by nation -- who is doing the USA sites?
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22:53
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| moixs
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This publication list is who we target
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me and shambo
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english is on me
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| moixs
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I think that it would be a good idea to send a recap mail to the marketing and ambassador list about NDN, so everyone clearly knows what it is and what it isn't
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22:55
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| moixs
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I can do that tomorrow
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22:55
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| themayor
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yeah we need a general email saying this is the news and media coverage plan for f11
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| themayor
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we have the ndn
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22:56
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| themayor
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this is what it needs to be doing
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22:56
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| themayor
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we want ambassadors to help with X
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22:56
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| themayor
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these are the dates
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| moixs
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exactly
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22:56
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| stickster
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moixs: That's a brilliant idea.
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| themayor
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also mention, everyone should be blogging something this week and next about the upcoming release
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| moixs
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okay
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| moixs
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So, we are clear about this point for now
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22:57
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| moixs
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anything else? picture book?
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22:57
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| themayor
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picture book, so mo says, we need to have a better way to upload pictures
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22:57
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| moixs
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yes, the whole tag thing is unclear
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| themayor
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otherwise, the best way is after release to get 2-3 people to sit down and ask people for links to photo sets and for us to pick them out
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22:58
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| themayor
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because she said its too cumbersome to upload pictures now
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| themayor
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ianweller: are you still here?
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| ianweller
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hi what
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23:00
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| themayor
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do you have any thought about what i said regarding uploading pictures?
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| ianweller
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hmm
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| themayor
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do we want to maybe try sitting down 2-3 people and just asking people for like flickr streams and us doing the leg work?
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| ianweller
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sure
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| ianweller
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yeah that's one of the 'options' on the submission page.
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i.e. give us a link of pictures, we'll see what we want.
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i'm still uploading mo's pictures because i just keep forgetting to get back to the ones i had to check on names with
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| themayor
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yeah but i think we need to actively prod people
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23:03
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| ianweller
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yes.
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and i still need to type up the instructions for mo to do release form checks
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| ianweller
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which is a lot less cumbersome, i think, than the actual uploading :P)
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:) *
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| themayor
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okay well either way, can we say that the first monday after release will be the day we go prodding people?
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| moixs
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They will be less stressed, that's sure :p
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| themayor
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ianweller: ?
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| ianweller
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hi
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| ianweller
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um
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| ianweller
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yes.
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| ianweller
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most definitely. i'll be a hell of a lot less stressed then too cuz school's out then
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| moixs
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(are we done?)
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| themayor
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okay great
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| themayor
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so thats that
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| themayor
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we have our tasks, ill send out those emails and do what i got to do now
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| themayor
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moixs: you know what to do too right?
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| moixs
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yep
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| themayor
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alright, thats a wrap folks
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