QA/Meetings/20101108
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Attendees
People present (lines said)
- jlaska (67)
- adamw (16)
- mkrizek (6)
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Agenda
Previous meeting follow-up
- None
Common_F14_Bugs
Quick check-in on Common_F14_bugs and discussion around incoming issues on test@lists.fedoraproject.org
F-14 QA Retrospective -- last call
Last call for feedback on Fedora_14_QA_Retrospective. Really good list of improvement areas generated so far, but more feedback never hurts.
Suggestions/ideas on organizing feedback into recommendations?
F-15 QA schedule drafted
Feedback welcome ... http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-quality-tasks.html
Open discussion - <Your topic here>
AutoQA ticket#205
mkrizek mentioned he has a working script to submit bodhi update feedback and is looking for a sample test to integrate the support with. Between depcheck and upgradepath, it was recommended to use upgradepath</path> since <code>depcheck is still in a private branch and it isn't clear whether it's ready to be integrated yet.
Action items
IRC Transcript
| jlaska | #startmeeting Fedora QA Meeting | 16:00 |
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| zodbot | Meeting started Mon Nov 8 16:00:23 2010 UTC. The chair is jlaska. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 16:00 |
| jlaska | #meetingname fedora-qa | 16:00 |
| zodbot | The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' | 16:00 |
| jlaska | #topic Gathering ... | 16:00 |
| adamw | o to the y | 16:00 |
| jlaska | adamw: welcome! | 16:00 |
| * mkrizek is here | 16:01 | |
| jlaska | I think we'll be without jskladan and kparal today | 16:01 |
| jlaska | Hi mkrizek | 16:01 |
| mkrizek | hi all | 16:01 |
| jlaska | wwoods will be a bit delayed as he needs to see a man about a horse | 16:01 |
| jlaska | anyone else lurking in the shadows? | 16:01 |
| * adamw sprays shadows with rifle | 16:02 | |
| adamw | not any more, sir! | 16:02 |
| jlaska | wait, no we needed ... oh | 16:02 |
| jlaska | :) | 16:02 |
| jlaska | I'll wait another minute, and we'll get moving | 16:02 |
| jlaska | #info Proposed meeting agenda - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-November/095431.html | 16:03 |
| jlaska | mkrizek: are you in a lecture at the moment? | 16:03 |
| mkrizek | jlaska: not today | 16:03 |
| jlaska | okay ... diving into the agenda | 16:03 |
| jlaska | this will be light today, just review and recap on F-14 still | 16:04 |
| jlaska | #topic Common_F14_Bugs | 16:04 |
| jlaska | As I'm sure everyone knows, there is a wiki page (and process) used to record common issues users may hit | 16:04 |
| jlaska | #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F14_bugs | 16:04 |
| jlaska | This #topic is 1) a quick reminder that the page exists, and instructions for adding your own entries are at the topic of the page | 16:05 |
| jlaska | and 2) we are just about 1-week out from F-14 general availability | 16:05 |
| jlaska | there is still active discussion of changes and issues on the list (and I suspect forums too) | 16:05 |
| adamw | erm | 16:06 |
| * adamw hands jlaska the time machine | 16:06 | |
| jlaska | adamw: sorry, I meant 1-week s/out/past/ | 16:06 |
| adamw | =) | 16:06 |
| jlaska | only thing I wanted to discuss here is whether we need to get folks on particular issues | 16:07 |
| jlaska | are there any developing issues/discussion that need further investigation as possible common bug entries? | 16:07 |
| adamw | nothing i'm aware of | 16:07 |
| jlaska | I'm tracking a few BIOS RAID bugs still ... but those continue to mature ... no resolution yet that I'm aware of | 16:07 |
| jlaska | adamw: any trends or concerns pop up from the forums? | 16:08 |
| adamw | nope, just the usual mix of mini-buglets | 16:08 |
| adamw | and people trying to get nvidia working | 16:08 |
| jlaska | anything different there wrt nvidia? | 16:09 |
| jlaska | blacklisting nouveau etc... ? | 16:09 |
| * jlaska hasn't had reason to change to proprietary NVidia drivers ... happy w/ nouveau | 16:09 | |
| jlaska | alrighty ... so that's enough on this topic | 16:10 |
| adamw | yeah there's a bug in pyxf86config | 16:10 |
| adamw | which throws off all the *-config-display tools | 16:10 |
| adamw | so the typical install method for nvidia, fglrx and psb doesn't work | 16:10 |
| adamw | we (with rpmfusion hat on) should do something about that | 16:10 |
| jlaska | Is this intended to resolve that issue? http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=203948 | 16:11 |
| jlaska | * Sun Nov 07 2010 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak@v3.sk> - 0.3.37-10 | 16:11 |
| jlaska | - Unbreak it for new XOrg configuration parser | 16:11 |
| jlaska | anyway, we can talk about that further in #fedora-qa ... don't think that's needed for this meeting (sorry) | 16:12 |
| jlaska | #topic F-14 QA Retrospective -- last call | 16:12 |
| jlaska | #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_QA_Retrospective | 16:13 |
| jlaska | Another reminder topic ... we've got some really good content on the page so far | 16:13 |
| jlaska | As always though, the more the better | 16:13 |
| jlaska | even if you see something already on the page, it helps me to see when multiple people report the same (or similar) issues | 16:13 |
| adamw | jlaska: ooh! possibly. | 16:14 |
| jlaska | In the coming weeks, I plan to organize the content into distinct groups, and then list recommendations based on the issues identified or suggestions contributed | 16:14 |
| jlaska | #info Last call for contributions ... add your feedback on what was good/bad/ugly about Fedora 14 Testing | 16:15 |
| jlaska | with regards to the process we followed last time .... | 16:15 |
| jlaska | The format worked for me ... it seemed to lend well to filing tickets so anyone could contribute | 16:15 |
| jlaska | For an example of what I'm talking about ... see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective#Recommendations | 16:16 |
| jlaska | I'll likely follow that same procedure | 16:16 |
| jlaska | However, I'm open to thoughts/suggestions on how we might better collaborate on the content as a group | 16:16 |
| jlaska | Certainly not something I expect to tackle in todays meeting ... but I am very interested in any ideas on how to collaboratively process the recommendations | 16:17 |
| adamw | i like the trac process, t's clear | 16:17 |
| jlaska | yeah that worked well I think ... maybe I need to be more active with directing folks to that list | 16:18 |
| jlaska | #info jlaska seeking ideas for improving F-15 QA recommendations process/collaboration | 16:18 |
| jlaska | alright ... last planned topic for today ... | 16:19 |
| jlaska | #topic F-15 QA schedule drafted | 16:19 |
| jlaska | poelcat provided a link to the draft F-15 QA schedule | 16:19 |
| jlaska | #link http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-quality-tasks.html | 16:19 |
| jlaska | poelcat and I had a brief discussion about some of the changes to the schedule. A summary of that talk is available at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/147#comment:2 | 16:20 |
| adamw | looks okay | 16:20 |
| jlaska | I plan to re-review the schedule in the context of the F-14 QA recommendations (once complete) | 16:21 |
| jlaska | but I'm pretty happy with the content | 16:21 |
| jlaska | adamw: excellent | 16:21 |
| jlaska | alright, it's open mic time | 16:21 |
| jlaska | #topic Open discussion - <Your topic here> | 16:21 |
| jlaska | mkrizek: is there anything you'd like to call here out with regards to autoqa? | 16:22 |
| mkrizek | jlaska: not at the moment, I need to run the #205 with upgradepath/depcheck first before making any conclusions about the #205 | 16:24 |
| jlaska | mkrizek: anything you need help with with regards to running those specific tests? | 16:24 |
| mkrizek | jlaska: well, one question, is it possible to run depcheck yet? | 16:25 |
| jlaska | mkrizek: I'm sure it's possible, but I think that the code is still in wwoods private branch. So it's likely not intended for general consumption yet | 16:26 |
| mkrizek | ok, I will try the upgradepath first then | 16:26 |
| jlaska | mkrizek: yeah, that's probably the best place to experiment first ... I assume that depcheck is close to final, but hard to say until it's moved into 'master' | 16:27 |
| jlaska | alright ... if no other comments in 1 minute, let's #endmeeting | 16:27 |
| jlaska | okay gang ... let's get back to your post-F14 wrap-up activities and pre-F15 planning | 16:28 |
| jlaska | thanks all | 16:28 |
| jlaska | #endmeeting | 16:28 |
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