| adamw
| #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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| zodbot
| Meeting started Mon Feb 13 16:00:09 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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| zodbot
| Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
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| adamw
| #meetingname fedora-qa
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| zodbot
| The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
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| adamw
| #topic roll call
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| adamw
| morning folks, who's here for some awesome meetage?
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| * pschindl is here
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| * j_dulaney waves
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| * jskladan likes his dinner-meeting :)
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| * mkrizek is present
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| * tflink is here
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| j_dulaney
| .fire tflink
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| zodbot
| adamw fires tflink
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| kparal
| lol
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| tflink
| huh?
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| adamw
| j_dulaney: I like it!
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| adamw
| jskladan: i too enjoy meeting dinner
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| j_dulaney
| adamw: Trying to make your life easier
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| tflink
| so j_dulaney got zodbot to control adamw and fire me? That's a new one
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| adamw
| lemme try it
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| adamw
| .fire j_dulaney
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| zodbot
| adamw fires j_dulaney
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| adamw
| you're hired!
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| j_dulaney
| LOL
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| adamw
| #chair kparal tflink j_dulaney
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| zodbot
| Current chairs: adamw j_dulaney kparal tflink
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| adamw
| alrighty
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| kparal
| let's give zodbot a chair as well so that it can fire at will :)
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| adamw
| hehe
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| adamw
| #topic previous meeting follow-up
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| adamw
| so just one lonely little action item from last week..
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| adamw
| #info "adamw to co-ordinate with dgilmore on getting lorax updated and a new compose done" - done, TC2 was composed, and promptly exploded due to systemd.
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| adamw
| i can't see any other big issues from last week that need following up on
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| adamw
| anyone else?
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| * maxamillion is here .... late again, but here
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| adamw
| .fire maxamillion
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| zodbot
| adamw fires maxamillion
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| * adamw giggles like a schoolchild
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| maxamillion
| ahhh!!!!
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| * maxamillion stops, drops, and rolls
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| adamw
| yes. it's AUTOMATED now
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| * j_dulaney was running with the Devil down in Georgia
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| maxamillion
| @headdesk
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| fedbot
| http://www.math.vt.edu/people/jbwillia/computer.gif
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| j_dulaney
| Last week, that is
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| adamw
| how is the devil?
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| maxamillion
| :)
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| maxamillion
| also ... for good measure ....
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| maxamillion
| @gentoo
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| fedbot
| http://funroll-loops.info
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| maxamillion
| :D
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| j_dulaney
| adamw: He married my cousin
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| maxamillion
| ok, I'm done making a mockery of hte meeting
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| maxamillion
| the*
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| adamw
| maxamillion: i only just got started!
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| maxamillion
| rocking .... it has been injected
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| adamw
| or, to put it in craig ferguson terms: that's what I do every week!
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| * maxamillion prepares for imgur and 9gag links to roll in
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| adamw
| alrighty
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| adamw
| #topic upcoming QA events
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| adamw
| so, we're scheduled to roll RC1 this week
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| maxamillion
| wooo!!!!
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| j_dulaney
| Yay!
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| adamw
| there's six open blockers, but that list looks manageable
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| tflink
| we still don't have 17 in bz
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| j_dulaney
| Does TC2 have the /usr move?
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| adamw
| #info RC1 scheduled for this week, open blockers at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
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| maxamillion
| did the SELinux denail of login get marked as a blocker? ... I can't remember
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| adamw
| j_dulaney: yes, and also a giant bug with systemd/selinux
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| tflink
| unless it's been done since I checked last night
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| adamw
| maxamillion: yes it is
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| adamw
| tflink: i will bug robyn about that, she said she'd make it happen
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| maxamillion
| adamw: rgr
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| j_dulaney
| adamw: Lack of f17 in bugzilla is likely to be making the number of blocker bugs artificially low
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| tflink
| j_dulaney: I doubt it. I think most people who are testing pre-alpha can figure out that rawhide == 17 if there's no 17
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| adamw
| j_dulaney: i don't *think* so, at this point in testing most blockers come from active QA members' testing of the TCs, and we're on top of those reports
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| j_dulaney
| adamw: Oddly, running TC2 on a VM last night/this morning did not hit any major bugs except the kernel CPU bug
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| adamw
| honestly, no-one goes through *every* bug filed against a release to check if it ought to be a blocker anyway, it has to be proposed by the filer or raised through the matrices or the test list or something to get on there
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| j_dulaney
| Which, I only hit with LXDE
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| adamw
| j_dulaney: well, everyone else is hitting http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=788829
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| adamw
| if you disable SELinux you'd miss it
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| j_dulaney
| adamw: I did a default install from the DVD image in a VM, the only change being to go with LXDE instead of Gnome
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| adamw
| anyhoo, yeah, looking at that list of blockers we ought to be able to clear them
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| maxamillion
| j_dulaney: and on a fresh reboot you didn't have any issues logging in? with SELinux enabled?
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| maxamillion
| enabled/enforcing
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| j_dulaney
| maxamillion: Not a one
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| maxamillion
| huh
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| adamw
| i'm not sure it's worth kicking that horse, we know there _is_ a bug there and dwalsh and mezcalero are aware of it and fixing
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| j_dulaney
| This is with TC2 download via wget around 2AM
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| maxamillion
| adamw: yeah, fair
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| adamw
| if j_dulaney didn't hit it it's lucky for him :)
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| maxamillion
| +1
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| * j_dulaney is wondering how
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| maxamillion
| j_dulaney: we're going to vegas!!!!
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| maxamillion
| >.>
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| adamw
| eddies in the space-time continuum
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| adamw
| so, no other major upcoming events, of course there'll be a blocker review on friday
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| j_dulaney
| Eddy's in the space-time continuum? Why is he there?
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| adamw
| j_dulaney: he's looking for tea
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| j_dulaney
| I thought he was with Zaphod
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| adamw
| looks like we don't have any test days till early march
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| adamw
| though i still have to crowbar the x test week in there somewhere
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| adamw
| so, anyone have any concerns about 17 tc/rc or the schedule before moving on to autoqa?
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| adamw
| *crickets*
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| adamw
| excellent.
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| adamw
| #topic autoqa update
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| adamw
| kparal: any big news here?
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| kparal
| just small news - we found out that changes in f17's anaconda were not working with rats_install
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| kparal
| so hongqing is working on that, it should be ready this week I believe
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| adamw
| #info f17 anaconda changes have broken rats_install, hongqing is working to fix it
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| kparal
| (I am talking about the initrd/squasfs.img change)
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| adamw
| ok
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| adamw
| are you clearer on the status of rats in general now? what exactly it's capable of at present?
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| kparal
| it that fix hongqing posted works well, it installs automatically Fedora from kickstart
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| maxamillion
| oooo, swank
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| kparal
| I have to check that the daily composes are available
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| kparal
| so that we can watch for them and trigger daily tests
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| j_dulaney
| kparal: Do the nightlies?
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| kparal
| I need kernel+initrd+squashfs composes
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| kparal
| not live images
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| adamw
| kparal: that would definitely be great. can i give you an action item on that one?
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| kparal
| sure
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| kparal
| I have it on my todo list anyway
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| adamw
| #action kparal to check with releng on the status of daily installer image builds for RATS testing
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| kparal
| ok, second change, I pushed a patch that creates Config class in autoqa, so that all our libraries don't have to parse all the configuration files again and again
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| kparal
| progress!
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| adamw
| #info kparal created a Config class in autoqa to avoid excessive config file parsing
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| kparal
| and jskladan pushed a change in depcheck behavior that marks ignored builds as passed instead of failed
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| kparal
| that means we will not report failed tests as often in bodhi when there is no real reason to report it as failed
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| * jskladan likes that green check marks ...
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| j_dulaney
| kparal: Why not get them to say ignored but otherwise treat as passed?
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| kparal
| don't ask me what 'ignored builds' are, btw :)
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| adamw
| oh hey, i'm glad that drive-by comment produced useful result =)
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| kparal
| j_dulaney: that's basically it
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| adamw
| #info 'ignored builds' now treated as pass rather than fail to avoid excessively high failure counts and reports
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| kparal
| good wording, thanks
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| tflink
| kparal: IIRC, they're builds that were dropped out of the yum transaction during depcheck but didn't explicitly fail
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| maxamillion
| w00t!
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| maxamillion
| less email
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| jskladan
| j_dulaney: there still is info, that the build is "ignored" we just don't fail tests because of it
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| kparal
| and tflink fixed a bug in mock_fedorainfra
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| kparal
| that caused some of our tests to misbehave at staging
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| adamw
| #info tflink fixed a bug that caused some tests to misbehave at staging
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| adamw
| sounds like solid progress
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| j_dulaney
| Righteo
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| kparal
| what did I forgot?
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| kparal
| *forget
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| adamw
| when are we planning to announce resultsdb outside of the autoqa list?
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| j_dulaney
| kparal: The sink
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| kparal
| ->jskladan
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| jskladan
| *shrugs* I'd announce it once it's on production
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| kparal
| j_dulaney: english idioms are tough, careful :)
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| kparal
| but I know this one :)
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| adamw
| jskladan: cool, when is that planned?
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| jskladan
| I guess with next autoqa release
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| jskladan
| which is... (kparal, help me out pls)
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| kparal
| asap
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| adamw
| okely dokely
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| j_dulaney
| kparal: Good, since I don't think I could explain it
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| jskladan
| adamw: that ^^
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| jskladan
| :)
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| adamw
| #info resultsdb deployment to production planned for next autoqa release, which is coming ASAP
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| j_dulaney
| Which probably means post F17
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| kparal
| 'once it is done' might be better :)
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| kparal
| I'm waiting for rats_install basically
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| kparal
| after that I would like to release
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| adamw
| okay.
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| * jskladan thinks in terms like "never" or "on 31st of February"
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| kparal
| the second sounds better
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| adamw
| this is software. that's what ASAP *means*.
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| * j_dulaney should sleep more
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| adamw
| alrighty, guess that's all for autoqa
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| adamw
| thanks mad scientists
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| adamw
| #topic open floor
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| adamw
| so i have a quick one here - just wanted to check with j_dulaney, are you okay on the test day front? no assistance required?
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| adamw
| i did forward you a potential new test day last week while you were riding with the red fiery guy
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| j_dulaney
| adamw: Now that my travels are over, I'll be able to handle it
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| j_dulaney
| Hmm
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| * j_dulaney looks
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| j_dulaney
| adamw: What was it, exactly?
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| adamw
| j_dulaney: subject "Re: Request for testers of dnssec-trigger (now in rawhide)"
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| j_dulaney
| adamw: Ah
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| * j_dulaney saw that, and it pinged his interest
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| adamw
| okey dokey.
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| adamw
| just let me know if you need help with anything, as always
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| adamw
| anything else for open floor, anyone?
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| j_dulaney
| Indeed
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| * j_dulaney is having Beefy Miracles for lunch
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| j_dulaney
| With bacon
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| * maxamillion makes really bad fake cricket noises
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| adamw
| .fire maxamillion
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| zodbot
| adamw fires maxamillion
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| adamw
| bad cricket noises are a firing offence!
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| * j_dulaney makes fake fart sounds with his armpit
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| * jskladan thinks, that zodbot is becoming too smart
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| Cerlyn
| That script should tell you how much your workload increases every time you fire someone, as well as the cost of hiring a replacement
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| * maxamillion rolls round once more to put out the flames
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| jskladan
| "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."
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| j_dulaney
| jskladan has been reading too much Dune
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| maxamillion
| I'm going to have to start showing up to these meetings with fire retardant(sp?) clothing
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| adamw
| Cerlyn: "not at all", and "one shiny nickel"
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| maxamillion
| or a super soaker
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| maxamillion
| which ever ....
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| * j_dulaney throws gasoline on maxamillion
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| adamw
| ooh, super soakers are mandatory for all meeting attendees from now on
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| * j_dulaney uses a super-soaker filled with gas on maxamillion
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| maxamillion
| ahhhh!!!!!
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| adamw
| alrighty, i guess this terribly important discussion means we're done!
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| maxamillion
| rgr, laters all :)
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| adamw
| thanks for coming everyone
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| adamw
| speak now or forever hold your super soaker
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| maxamillion
| thanks for hosting
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| * jskladan should find his Max-D then
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| adamw
| #endmeeting
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