| adamw
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#startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started Mon Feb 13 16:00:09 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
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| adamw
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#meetingname fedora-qa
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The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
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| adamw
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#topic roll call
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16:00
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| adamw
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morning folks, who's here for some awesome meetage?
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16:00
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| * pschindl is here
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16:00
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| * j_dulaney waves
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16:00
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| * jskladan likes his dinner-meeting :)
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16:01
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| * mkrizek is present
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16:01
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| * tflink is here
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16:01
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| j_dulaney
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.fire tflink
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16:01
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| zodbot
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adamw fires tflink
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16:01
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| kparal
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lol
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16:01
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| tflink
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huh?
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16:01
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| adamw
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j_dulaney: I like it!
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16:01
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| adamw
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jskladan: i too enjoy meeting dinner
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16:02
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| j_dulaney
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adamw: Trying to make your life easier
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16:02
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| tflink
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so j_dulaney got zodbot to control adamw and fire me? That's a new one
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16:02
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| adamw
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lemme try it
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16:02
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| adamw
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.fire j_dulaney
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16:02
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| zodbot
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adamw fires j_dulaney
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16:02
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| adamw
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you're hired!
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16:02
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| j_dulaney
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LOL
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16:03
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| adamw
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#chair kparal tflink j_dulaney
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16:03
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| zodbot
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Current chairs: adamw j_dulaney kparal tflink
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16:03
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| adamw
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alrighty
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16:03
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| kparal
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let's give zodbot a chair as well so that it can fire at will :)
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16:03
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| adamw
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hehe
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16:04
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| adamw
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#topic previous meeting follow-up
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16:04
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| adamw
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so just one lonely little action item from last week..
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16:04
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| adamw
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#info "adamw to co-ordinate with dgilmore on getting lorax updated and a new compose done" - done, TC2 was composed, and promptly exploded due to systemd.
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16:04
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| adamw
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i can't see any other big issues from last week that need following up on
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16:05
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| adamw
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anyone else?
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16:05
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| * maxamillion is here .... late again, but here
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16:05
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| adamw
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.fire maxamillion
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16:06
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| zodbot
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adamw fires maxamillion
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16:06
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| * adamw giggles like a schoolchild
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16:06
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| maxamillion
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ahhh!!!!
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16:06
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| * maxamillion stops, drops, and rolls
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16:06
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| adamw
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yes. it's AUTOMATED now
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16:06
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| * j_dulaney was running with the Devil down in Georgia
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16:06
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| maxamillion
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@headdesk
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16:06
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| fedbot
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http://www.math.vt.edu/people/jbwillia/computer.gif
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16:06
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| j_dulaney
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Last week, that is
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16:06
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| adamw
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how is the devil?
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16:06
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| maxamillion
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:)
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16:06
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| maxamillion
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also ... for good measure ....
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16:07
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| maxamillion
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@gentoo
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16:07
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| fedbot
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http://funroll-loops.info
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16:07
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| maxamillion
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:D
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16:07
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| j_dulaney
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adamw: He married my cousin
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16:07
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| maxamillion
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ok, I'm done making a mockery of hte meeting
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16:07
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| maxamillion
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the*
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16:07
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| adamw
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maxamillion: i only just got started!
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16:07
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| maxamillion
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rocking .... it has been injected
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16:07
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| adamw
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or, to put it in craig ferguson terms: that's what I do every week!
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16:07
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| * maxamillion prepares for imgur and 9gag links to roll in
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16:07
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| adamw
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alrighty
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16:08
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| adamw
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#topic upcoming QA events
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16:08
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| adamw
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so, we're scheduled to roll RC1 this week
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16:08
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| maxamillion
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wooo!!!!
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16:08
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| j_dulaney
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Yay!
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16:08
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| adamw
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there's six open blockers, but that list looks manageable
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16:09
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| tflink
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we still don't have 17 in bz
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16:09
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| j_dulaney
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Does TC2 have the /usr move?
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16:09
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| adamw
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#info RC1 scheduled for this week, open blockers at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
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16:09
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| maxamillion
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did the SELinux denail of login get marked as a blocker? ... I can't remember
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16:09
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| adamw
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j_dulaney: yes, and also a giant bug with systemd/selinux
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16:09
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| tflink
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unless it's been done since I checked last night
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16:09
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| adamw
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maxamillion: yes it is
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16:09
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| adamw
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tflink: i will bug robyn about that, she said she'd make it happen
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16:09
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| maxamillion
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adamw: rgr
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16:09
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| j_dulaney
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adamw: Lack of f17 in bugzilla is likely to be making the number of blocker bugs artificially low
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| tflink
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j_dulaney: I doubt it. I think most people who are testing pre-alpha can figure out that rawhide == 17 if there's no 17
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16:10
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| adamw
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j_dulaney: i don't *think* so, at this point in testing most blockers come from active QA members' testing of the TCs, and we're on top of those reports
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16:10
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| j_dulaney
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adamw: Oddly, running TC2 on a VM last night/this morning did not hit any major bugs except the kernel CPU bug
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| adamw
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honestly, no-one goes through *every* bug filed against a release to check if it ought to be a blocker anyway, it has to be proposed by the filer or raised through the matrices or the test list or something to get on there
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| j_dulaney
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Which, I only hit with LXDE
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| adamw
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j_dulaney: well, everyone else is hitting http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=788829
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| adamw
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if you disable SELinux you'd miss it
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| j_dulaney
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adamw: I did a default install from the DVD image in a VM, the only change being to go with LXDE instead of Gnome
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16:12
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| adamw
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anyhoo, yeah, looking at that list of blockers we ought to be able to clear them
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16:12
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| maxamillion
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j_dulaney: and on a fresh reboot you didn't have any issues logging in? with SELinux enabled?
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16:13
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| maxamillion
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enabled/enforcing
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16:13
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| j_dulaney
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maxamillion: Not a one
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16:13
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| maxamillion
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huh
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16:13
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| adamw
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i'm not sure it's worth kicking that horse, we know there _is_ a bug there and dwalsh and mezcalero are aware of it and fixing
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| j_dulaney
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This is with TC2 download via wget around 2AM
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| maxamillion
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adamw: yeah, fair
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| adamw
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if j_dulaney didn't hit it it's lucky for him :)
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| maxamillion
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+1
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16:14
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| * j_dulaney is wondering how
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| maxamillion
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j_dulaney: we're going to vegas!!!!
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| maxamillion
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>.>
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16:14
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| adamw
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eddies in the space-time continuum
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| adamw
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so, no other major upcoming events, of course there'll be a blocker review on friday
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16:14
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| j_dulaney
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Eddy's in the space-time continuum? Why is he there?
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16:15
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| adamw
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j_dulaney: he's looking for tea
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16:15
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| j_dulaney
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I thought he was with Zaphod
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16:15
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| adamw
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looks like we don't have any test days till early march
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16:16
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| adamw
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though i still have to crowbar the x test week in there somewhere
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16:16
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| adamw
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so, anyone have any concerns about 17 tc/rc or the schedule before moving on to autoqa?
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16:16
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| adamw
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*crickets*
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16:17
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| adamw
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excellent.
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16:17
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| adamw
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#topic autoqa update
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16:18
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| adamw
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kparal: any big news here?
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16:18
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| kparal
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just small news - we found out that changes in f17's anaconda were not working with rats_install
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16:18
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| kparal
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so hongqing is working on that, it should be ready this week I believe
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16:19
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| adamw
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#info f17 anaconda changes have broken rats_install, hongqing is working to fix it
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| kparal
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(I am talking about the initrd/squasfs.img change)
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| adamw
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ok
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16:19
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| adamw
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are you clearer on the status of rats in general now? what exactly it's capable of at present?
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16:19
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| kparal
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it that fix hongqing posted works well, it installs automatically Fedora from kickstart
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16:20
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| maxamillion
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oooo, swank
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16:20
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| kparal
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I have to check that the daily composes are available
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16:20
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| kparal
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so that we can watch for them and trigger daily tests
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16:21
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| j_dulaney
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kparal: Do the nightlies?
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16:21
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| kparal
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I need kernel+initrd+squashfs composes
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16:21
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| kparal
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not live images
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16:21
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| adamw
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kparal: that would definitely be great. can i give you an action item on that one?
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16:22
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| kparal
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sure
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16:22
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| kparal
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I have it on my todo list anyway
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16:22
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| adamw
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#action kparal to check with releng on the status of daily installer image builds for RATS testing
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16:22
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| kparal
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ok, second change, I pushed a patch that creates Config class in autoqa, so that all our libraries don't have to parse all the configuration files again and again
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16:23
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| kparal
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progress!
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16:23
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| adamw
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#info kparal created a Config class in autoqa to avoid excessive config file parsing
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16:23
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| kparal
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and jskladan pushed a change in depcheck behavior that marks ignored builds as passed instead of failed
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16:24
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| kparal
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that means we will not report failed tests as often in bodhi when there is no real reason to report it as failed
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16:24
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| * jskladan likes that green check marks ...
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16:24
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| j_dulaney
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kparal: Why not get them to say ignored but otherwise treat as passed?
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16:25
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| kparal
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don't ask me what 'ignored builds' are, btw :)
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16:25
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| adamw
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oh hey, i'm glad that drive-by comment produced useful result =)
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16:25
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| kparal
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j_dulaney: that's basically it
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16:25
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| adamw
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#info 'ignored builds' now treated as pass rather than fail to avoid excessively high failure counts and reports
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16:25
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| kparal
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good wording, thanks
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| tflink
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kparal: IIRC, they're builds that were dropped out of the yum transaction during depcheck but didn't explicitly fail
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16:25
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| maxamillion
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w00t!
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16:25
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| maxamillion
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less email
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16:26
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| jskladan
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j_dulaney: there still is info, that the build is "ignored" we just don't fail tests because of it
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16:26
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| kparal
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and tflink fixed a bug in mock_fedorainfra
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16:26
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| kparal
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that caused some of our tests to misbehave at staging
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16:26
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| adamw
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#info tflink fixed a bug that caused some tests to misbehave at staging
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16:27
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| adamw
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sounds like solid progress
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16:27
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| j_dulaney
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Righteo
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16:27
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| kparal
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what did I forgot?
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16:27
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| kparal
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*forget
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16:27
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| adamw
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when are we planning to announce resultsdb outside of the autoqa list?
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16:27
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| j_dulaney
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kparal: The sink
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16:27
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| kparal
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->jskladan
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16:27
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| jskladan
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*shrugs* I'd announce it once it's on production
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16:28
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| kparal
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j_dulaney: english idioms are tough, careful :)
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16:28
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| kparal
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but I know this one :)
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16:28
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| adamw
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jskladan: cool, when is that planned?
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16:28
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| jskladan
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I guess with next autoqa release
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16:29
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| jskladan
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which is... (kparal, help me out pls)
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16:29
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| kparal
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asap
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16:29
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| adamw
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okely dokely
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16:29
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| j_dulaney
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kparal: Good, since I don't think I could explain it
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16:29
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| jskladan
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adamw: that ^^
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16:29
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| jskladan
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:)
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16:29
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| adamw
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#info resultsdb deployment to production planned for next autoqa release, which is coming ASAP
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16:29
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| j_dulaney
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Which probably means post F17
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16:30
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| kparal
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'once it is done' might be better :)
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16:30
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| kparal
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I'm waiting for rats_install basically
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16:30
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| kparal
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after that I would like to release
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16:30
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| adamw
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okay.
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16:30
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| * jskladan thinks in terms like "never" or "on 31st of February"
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16:30
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| kparal
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the second sounds better
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16:30
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| adamw
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this is software. that's what ASAP *means*.
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16:30
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| * j_dulaney should sleep more
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16:31
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| adamw
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alrighty, guess that's all for autoqa
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16:31
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| adamw
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thanks mad scientists
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16:31
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| adamw
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#topic open floor
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16:32
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| adamw
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so i have a quick one here - just wanted to check with j_dulaney, are you okay on the test day front? no assistance required?
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16:32
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| adamw
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i did forward you a potential new test day last week while you were riding with the red fiery guy
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16:32
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| j_dulaney
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adamw: Now that my travels are over, I'll be able to handle it
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16:32
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| j_dulaney
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Hmm
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16:33
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| * j_dulaney looks
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16:33
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| j_dulaney
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adamw: What was it, exactly?
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16:33
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| adamw
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j_dulaney: subject "Re: Request for testers of dnssec-trigger (now in rawhide)"
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16:34
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| j_dulaney
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adamw: Ah
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16:36
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| * j_dulaney saw that, and it pinged his interest
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16:36
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| adamw
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okey dokey.
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16:37
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| adamw
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just let me know if you need help with anything, as always
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16:37
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| adamw
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anything else for open floor, anyone?
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16:37
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| j_dulaney
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Indeed
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16:37
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| * j_dulaney is having Beefy Miracles for lunch
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16:37
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| j_dulaney
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With bacon
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16:37
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| * maxamillion makes really bad fake cricket noises
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16:38
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| adamw
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.fire maxamillion
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16:39
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| zodbot
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adamw fires maxamillion
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16:39
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| adamw
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bad cricket noises are a firing offence!
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16:39
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| * j_dulaney makes fake fart sounds with his armpit
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16:39
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| * jskladan thinks, that zodbot is becoming too smart
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16:39
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| Cerlyn
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That script should tell you how much your workload increases every time you fire someone, as well as the cost of hiring a replacement
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16:39
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| * maxamillion rolls round once more to put out the flames
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16:40
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| jskladan
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"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."
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16:40
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| j_dulaney
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jskladan has been reading too much Dune
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16:40
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| maxamillion
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I'm going to have to start showing up to these meetings with fire retardant(sp?) clothing
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16:40
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| adamw
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Cerlyn: "not at all", and "one shiny nickel"
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16:40
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| maxamillion
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or a super soaker
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16:41
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| maxamillion
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which ever ....
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16:41
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| * j_dulaney throws gasoline on maxamillion
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16:41
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| adamw
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ooh, super soakers are mandatory for all meeting attendees from now on
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16:41
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| * j_dulaney uses a super-soaker filled with gas on maxamillion
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16:42
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| maxamillion
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ahhhh!!!!!
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16:42
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| adamw
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alrighty, i guess this terribly important discussion means we're done!
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16:42
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| maxamillion
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rgr, laters all :)
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16:42
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| adamw
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thanks for coming everyone
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16:42
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| adamw
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speak now or forever hold your super soaker
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16:43
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| maxamillion
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thanks for hosting
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16:43
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| * jskladan should find his Max-D then
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16:43
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| adamw
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#endmeeting
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