QA/Meetings/20120305

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Attendees

  • adamw (88)
  • kparal (21)
  • j_dulaney (21)
  • tflink (14)
  • jskladan (10)
  • brunowolff (8)
  • zodbot (6)
  • aalam (5)
  • dgilmore (3)
  • nirik (2)
  • Cerlyn (1)
  • pschindl (1)

Agenda

  • Previous meeting follow-up
  • Fedora 17 Beta prep
  • Upcoming QA events
  • AutoQA update
  • Open floor

Previous meeting follow-up

  • "adamw to start common bugs page" - did that one, most of the big hits are covered
  • "adamw to poke bcl about livecd-tools updates for fixing bugs writing f17" - we have the updates now but they need karma, please test
  • "adamw to dig out the 'deliverables' ticket / action item and get it moving again" - adam didn't get to that one yet
  • "brunowolff to ping release engineering about post-freeze update re-opening for f17" - updates have started rolling again

Fedora 17 Beta prep

  • everything seems on track for beta tc1 tomorrow, rats is recording its usual serial console failure near the end

Upcoming QA events

AutoQA update

  • resultsdb is merged into master and should be in production by the end of the week
  • Depcheck 'argument list too long' bug has been solved and is in master
  • New autoqa release planned in a couple of days
  • Some tests that were unmaintained or considered not worth running have been dropped, and all tests now have a defined maintainer

Open floor

N/A

IRC Log

adamw #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting 16:00
zodbot Meeting started Mon Mar 5 16:00:06 2012 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00
zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00
adamw #meetingname fedora-qa 16:00
zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 16:00
adamw #topic roll call 16:00
adamw #chair kparal 16:00
zodbot Current chairs: adamw kparal 16:00
adamw morning folks, it's meeting time 16:00
adamw who's around? 16:00
* brunowolff is here 16:01
* pschindl is here 16:01
* jskladan is lurking today 16:01
* tflink is present 16:01
adamw #chair tflink 16:02
zodbot Current chairs: adamw kparal tflink 16:02
* kparal pops up 16:02
* Cerlyn is here 16:02
* adamw whacks kparal 16:02
* nirik is lurking 16:02
adamw sorry....years of highly-trained mole reflexes 16:02
kparal .smash adamw 16:02
kparal damn, it never works for me 16:02
kparal bot, where are you? 16:02
kparal zodbot: .fire zodbot 16:03
adamw aha! I am unsmashable 16:03
* adamw fires zodbot 16:03
kparal I think I'm in a blacklist 16:03
adamw okay, let's get this crazy show on the road, kids 16:04
jskladan kparal: you have been fired too many times, I guess :)) 16:04
adamw #topic Fedora 17 Beta prep 16:04
adamw so, uh, if i was any better at this job i'd probably have done some! 16:04
* j_dulaney is here 16:04
adamw oh, wait a sec 16:04
adamw #undo 16:04
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adamw #topic previous meeting follow-up 16:05
adamw knew I was missing something. 16:05
adamw #info "adamw to start common bugs page" - did that one, i think it has most of the big hits 16:05
adamw #info "adamw to poke bcl about livecd-tools updates for fixing bugs writing f17" - we have the updates now but they need karma, hope people have been testing them 16:06
adamw #info "adamw to dig out the 'deliverables' ticket / action item and get it moving again" - didn't get to that one yet 16:06
adamw #info "brunowolff to ping release engineering about post-freeze update re-opening for f17" - I guess you got that done, bruno 16:07
adamw BRUNO! don't quit on us, bruno! 16:08
adamw welp, f17 updates got moving again, anyway, so it seems like it happened. 16:08
brunowolff I am here 16:09
adamw it's aliiiive 16:09
adamw oh, nirik - what happened with the ec2 image? do we have one now? 16:09
brunowolff I am multi-tasking though not well. 16:09
nirik adamw: dunno. dgilmore was working on that. 16:09
tflink adamw: I think that we got one but I'm not sure that it worked 16:10
adamw brunowolff: preach it. 16:10
adamw what the hell is with people expecting stuff to work around here? 16:10
* tflink vaguely remembers something about failures for the EC2 image but could be wrong 16:11
adamw wah, wah, my image doesn't boot, wah, wah, the usb stick ran away with my wife, it's just whine whine whine with you people 16:11
tflink adamw: if your wife ran away with the USB stic ... I think you have other issues to deal with :) 16:12
* j_dulaney thinks someone's about to be fired 16:12
adamw heh 16:12
kparal right, why don't people thank us for that? 16:12
kparal weird 16:12
j_dulaney Bloody VMs 16:12
adamw ookay then 16:13
* j_dulaney continues the saga of creating VMs whilst drunk that don't work 16:13
adamw #topic fedora 17 beta prep 16:13
adamw j_dulaney: the problem is clearly that you're not drunk enough 16:13
* j_dulaney isn't drunk at all right now 16:13
dgilmore adamw: no ec2 yet 16:13
adamw ah, okay 16:13
dgilmore adamw: i need to sit down and write some appliance-tools code 16:13
adamw so, it looks like we're still missing the raid and upgrade tests from alpha 16:14
adamw those are the two likely hairy areas at beta 16:14
adamw i meant to get the raid tests done but never quite made it 16:14
* tflink did iSCSI BFT and forgot to update the matrix 16:14
tflink still haven't done the regular iSCSI test case yet 16:14
adamw cool, thanks 16:14
adamw so we can try and get some of those done today, but in theory we should have a beta TC1 tomorrow 16:15
adamw dgilmore: any idea if we're on track for that? any big compose-blocking issues you know of? 16:15
tflink I'll probably try to wait for the TC1 image before trying the iSCSI tests again - my test machine can't boot alpha and I've been using a custom image 16:16
dgilmore adamw: im not aware of anything 16:16
adamw rats_install today fails at 'bootloader' so that's good, that's just the regular serial failure...it made it all the way through the ret 16:16
adamw rest 16:16
brunowolff We got a -1 for the pulseaudio update this morning, so that issue may not be resolved. 16:16
adamw brunowolff: erf. really? it's working here. 16:17
brunowolff Well his case was boot to run level 3, so it might not be the same problem. 16:17
brunowolff And it only was a report of the problem not being fixed, rather than worse. 16:17
adamw yeah, seems like a bad -1. 16:17
tflink sound works in runlevel 3? 16:17
adamw tflink: read https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=751902 16:18
brunowolff So I plan to keeo the update as pending for stable. But we might need another update. 16:18
adamw brunowolff: from the bug it reads like there's no regression, that bug was reported for f16 16:18
adamw so i'd say just push the update, it's not making anything worse 16:18
adamw and it's clearly making most things better 16:19
j_dulaney +1 16:19
adamw okay, so, anyway, looks like we're basically on track for tc1 tomorrow 16:20
adamw and we'll just have to hope upgrades aren't borked too bad. 16:21
adamw if anyone wants to do some upgrade testing today, of course, go right ahead... 16:21
adamw #info everything seems on track for beta tc1 tomorrow, rats is recording its usual serial console failure near the end 16:22
adamw #topic upcoming QA events 16:22
adamw so we have tc1 tomorrow as mentioned, and of course a blocker review friday 16:22
adamw but the big news i guess is the test day cycle kicking in finally - thursday is openstack test day 16:23
* tflink is planning to send out an email to test@ asking for a volunteer to run friday's meeting 16:23
adamw that's 2012-03-08 16:23
adamw oh, and wednesday is i18n/l10n test day, i see 16:23
adamw tflink: cool, if no one steps up, i'll do it 16:23
adamw #info still looking for a volunteer to run friday's blocker review 16:24
adamw j_dulaney: everything looking good for the two test days? are their pages prepped and so on? 16:24
j_dulaney adamw: Indeed 16:24
j_dulaney adamw: I'll be dropping a blog post today about it 16:24
brunowolff I can't commit to that since work may intervene duiring the meeting. I expect to be at the meeting though. 16:24
adamw j_dulaney: great, also test-announce posts &c 16:26
j_dulaney adamw: Indeed 16:27
adamw how do we announce things in the cloud? planes with those jetstream trailer thingies? :) 16:27
adamw anyway, yeah, those look nicely on track, of course the rest of us can blog about them and so on 16:29
adamw anything else on upcoming events before we move on? 16:29
aalam adamw: j_dulaney: for l10n test day, it is 2012-03-07, but for i18n test day , i need 2012-03-14 16:29
aalam Is it possible to do 16:29
aalam before beta 16:29
j_dulaney aalam: I see no problem with that 16:29
j_dulaney aalam: I'll ping you post meeting 16:29
aalam j_dulaney: thanks 16:30
aalam ok. 16:30
adamw sure 16:30
adamw alrighty, it's time for everyone's favorite all-action show... 16:31
adamw #topic autoqa update 16:31
adamw bring out the big hits, kparal and tflink 16:31
* jskladan *fireworks* 16:31
kparal this weeks' star is jskladan 16:31
kparal jskladan: bring it on! 16:31
* j_dulaney shoots fireworks at jskladan 16:31
jskladan ok, big fat news: ResultsDB-integration is finally in master 16:32
jskladan and we (aka kparal) hope to have it on production by the end of the week 16:32
jskladan also, the ticket #408 16:32
kparal so we will have a results frontend finally 16:32
jskladan Depcheck - argument list too long 16:32
adamw yaaay, rejoicing 16:33
jskladan is solved & in master 16:33
adamw #info resultsdb is merged into master and should be in production by the end of the week 16:33
jskladan sooo, not only results frontend 16:33
jskladan but also less CRASHED results :) 16:33
adamw #info depcheck 'argument list too long' bug has been solved and is in master 16:33
adamw kickass 16:33
kparal everything should be prepared for a new autoqa release 16:33
kparal we will wait one and two more days, I'll upgrade some test clients in the meantime 16:34
kparal and then we will go production 16:34
kparal anything else, someone? 16:35
adamw #info new autoqa release planned in a couple of days 16:35
tflink some tests were removed from autoqa for now 16:35
adamw awesome work folks, thanks for that 16:35
kparal ah right 16:35
kparal we removed some tests we either couldn't maintain (and they were broken) or that we decided are not worth execution ATM 16:36
tflink I'm going to be writing a compose_tree replacement as time allows 16:36
kparal that is anaconda_* and compose_tree tests 16:36
kparal now every test has a maintainer defined 16:36
kparal and I'm going to insist on that policy :-) 16:36
kparal EOF 16:37
adamw #info some tests that were unmaintained or considered not worth running have been dropped, and all tests now have a defined maintainer 16:37
adamw coolbeans, thanks folks 16:37
adamw #topic open floor 16:37
adamw so, anything else anyone's worried about? 16:37
adamw or shall we all go eat cake? 16:39
j_dulaney Cake? 16:40
j_dulaney What cake? 16:40
adamw there is always cake, my student 16:41
adamw you must learn only to discern it 16:41
* j_dulaney looks around, notes absence of cake. 16:41
tflink adamw: the cake is a lie 16:41
j_dulaney LIES! 16:41
tflink although, this explains a few things ... adamw's insistance on testing etc. 16:42
adamw i certainly do a lot of cake testing. 16:42
j_dulaney And why he's always firing people 16:42
tflink j_dulaney: better than tests that commonly result in death 16:43
* j_dulaney thinks he fires folks that are too close to finding the truth 16:43
j_dulaney tflink: Hey, y'all, watch me do *this* test! 16:43
* j_dulaney ramps over four burning airliners 16:43
adamw that seems like a terrible waste of lift capacity. 16:44
adamw alrighty then folks 16:45
adamw thanks for coming 16:45
adamw everyone get ready for some happy fun beta testing 16:45
* adamw sets fuse for one minute 16:45
* j_dulaney hides from beta testing 16:45
adamw #endmeeting 16:46

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