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EPEL 7 in Python 3 Plan Draft

Why Python 3 in EPEL 7, Why not SCLs

Due to Fedora plans for migration to Python 3 [1], it is becoming necessary to have Python 3 accessible in some form in EPEL 7. This will allow upstream projects to move to Python 3 (dropping Python 2 support) and still be usable through EPEL repositories. Some key stakeholders in this regard are Fedora Infra and DNF.

Another important reason is further promotion of Python 3 and raising awareness for enterprise-level Python users.

Because of key stakeholders like Fedora Infra and DNF, SCLs as a solution to this problem were ruled out. SCLs are currently not allowed in EPEL (and it seems they won't be allowed in near future) and since these projects need/strongly prefer to be in EPEL itself, SCLs are not a viable alternative for them.

Some Facts

  • Python 3 is actively developed by upstream and new minor versions are released approximately every year. Latest Python 3 minor is 3.4.
  • Python minor versions are not ABI compatible, rebuilds are needed (both because of libpython soname change and because of bytecode magic numbers).
  • Python has a good support for parallel installable stacks, even for minor versions of one major version (e.g. 3.3 and 3.4 can easily be installable alongside).
  • EPEL policies try to discourage updates that break ABI and require rebuilds of other packages - due to the above fact, I consider Python minor version update a "major version update" as specified in EPEL update guidelines [2]. And as the guidelines say, this should be avoided if at all possible.


  • Python 3 is packaged as python3X parallel-installable package (X is minor version, e.g. "4" ATM) that can coexist with other parallel installable python3Y stacks.
  • One of these stacks is always considered the "default" in the sense that it owns /usr/bin/python3.
  • All binary RPMs of extension packages must be named python3X-foo. They must follow Fedora's python3 packaging guidelines with the exception that name contains both major and minor Python version (in Fedora it's only major). See below for packaging instructions.
  • Most of the time, there is only one python3X stack in EPEL. During transitional periods, after 3X+1 is released, there are two.
  • In a situation when python3X is in EPEL and 3.X+1 is released upstream, the following happens:
    • python3X+1 package is created for EPEL ASAP and all extension packages are built also for this new python3X+1 stack.
    • When all packages are rebuilt for python3X+1, the old python3X stack is retired after certain period. This period gives everyone enough time to rebuild their packages while being as short as possible. There is intentionally no hard limit here, we will approach this case by case.
    • "/usr/bin/python3" belongs to the "stable" python3X stack. Switching /usr/bin/python3 from python3X to python3X+1 happens shortly before the end of transitional period (== before obsoleting python3X) and it is announced on epel-devel.
    • Usage of "/usr/bin/python3" is discouraged in favour of using /usr/bin/python3.X explicitly.

Packaging Parallel python3X stacks

  • Automatic dependency generators and bytecompilation hooks work fine.
  • RPM naming:
    • As mentioned above, binary RPMs are named python3X for Python itself and python3X-<name> for extension packages.
  • SRPM naming, dist-git:
    • We're using Fedora-like dist-git repos:
      • If a python3-<name> Fedora repo exists, it must be used. If a python-<name> SRPM exists in base RHEL, python3-<name> must be created and used (see #Explanation).
      • Otherwise if python-<name> Fedora repo exists, it must be used.
      • Otherwise the package doesn't exist in Fedora and packager should decide before review which of the above he'll choose to have created, according to Fedora Python Packaging Guidelines.
    • SRPM names are same as dist-git repo names. This means that we can have python-<name> dist-git repo and python-<name> SRPM which produces just python34-<name> RPM, while not producing python-<name> RPM.

Specfiles, Macros, Packaging Process

Libraries vs. Applications
For purposes of the following text, libraries are "python-<name>" packages - Python extension modules that are built for every interpreter and are imported by other libraries or applications. Libraries specfiles should allow building subpackages for both "python3" and "python3_other". Applications are packages that provide "end user functionality" and it only makes sense to build them for one Python runtime

An example specfile of a library follows follows:

# note: macros %%python3_pkgversion, %%python3_other_pkgversion and %%with_python3_other are defined 
# in the minimal buildroot; %%python3_pkgversion is also available in Fedora, so it's possible to have a common
# specfile for EPEL and Fedora

%global srcname example

Name:           python-%{srcname}
Version:        1.2.3
Release:        1%{?dist}
Summary:        An example python module

License:        MIT
URL:            http://{srcname}

BuildArch:      noarch
BuildRequires:  python2-devel
BuildRequires:  python%{python3_pkgversion}-devel

%if 0%{?with_python3_other}
BuildRequires:  python%{python3_other_pkgversion}-devel

An python module which provides a convenient example.

%package -n python2-%{srcname}
Summary:        An example python module
%{?python_provide:%python_provide python2-%{srcname}}

%description -n python2-%{srcname}
An python module which provides a convenient example.

%package -n python%{python3_pkgversion}-%{srcname}
Summary:        An example python module
BuildRequires:  python%{python3_pkgversion}-othermodule
Requires:       python%{python3_pkgversion}-othermodule
%{?python_provide:%python_provide python%{python3_pkgversion}-%{srcname}}

%description -n python%{python3_pkgversion}-%{srcname}
python%{python3_pkgversion} build of X.

%if 0%{?with_python3_other}
%package -n python%{python3_other_pkgversion}-%{srcname}
Summary:        python%{python3_other_pkgversion} build of X
BuildRequires:  python%{python3_other_pkgversion}-othermodule
Requilres:      python%{python3_other_pkgversion}-othermodule
%{?python_provide:%python_provide python%{python3_other_pkgversion}-%{srcname}}

%description -n python%{python3_other_pkgversion}-%{srcname}
python%{python3_other_pkgversion} build of X.



# Must do the python3_other install first, then python3 and then python2.
# The scripts in /usr/bin are overwritten with every install.

%{__python2} test
%{__python3} test
%{__python3_other} test

# Note that there is no %%files section for the unversioned python module if we are building for several python runtimes
%files -n python2-%{srcname}
%license COPYING
%doc README.rst

%files -n python%{python3_pkgversion}-%{srcname}
%license COPYING
%doc README.rst

%if 0%{?with_python3_other}
%files -n python%{python3_other_pkgversion}-%{srcname}
%license COPYING
%doc README.rst


Note, that application specfile would be adapted from Fedora only by changing dependency tags (Requires/BuildRequires/...) to use%{python3_pkgversion}.


For start, packagers are able to merge specfile from Fedora and use it - all macros like %__python3 or %python3_sitelib are provided by the current python3X-devel. It's even be possible to use the same specfile for Fedora and EPEL with minimal effort.

The process of importing a specfile from Fedora to EPEL follows:

  • Do initial Fedora import.
Packages already in RHEL
Some packages imported from Fedora, for example python-setuptools, would have same SRPM name (possibly different version) as packages in base RHEL. Since SRPM names must not conflict, it is necessary to create python3-<name> package for these (assuming it doesn't exist yet in Fedora), do a new package review and build it just for EPEL (the package will likely have python3- subpackage already in Fedora built from python-<name>).
  • For applications
    • Change dependency tags (Requires/BuildRequires/...) from python3-<depname> to python%{python3_pkgversion}-<depname>
  • For libraries
    • Change Fedora's python3-X subpackage name to python%{python3_pkgversion}-X, change dependency tags (Requires/BuildRequires/...) in the same way for this subpackage.
    • Add definition and %prep, %build and %install (and %check) steps of python%{python3_other_pkgversion}-X subpackage. which looks exactly the same as python%{python3_pkgversion}-X subpackage, it just uses different macros; build of this subpackage has to be conditionalized by the %with_python3_other macro, which is defined in the minimal buildroot.
    • Scripts/entry-points (if any) in %{_bindir} should be split like this among subpackages:
      • python-X subpackage should own %{_bindir}/foo and possibly %{_bindir}/foo-2 and %{_bindir}/foo-2.7 files
      • python%{python3_pkgversion}-X should own %{_bindir}/foo-3 and %{_bindir}/foo-%{python3_version} files
      • python%{python3_other_pkgversion}-X should own just %{_bindir}/foo-%{python3_other_version}
      • Note: often, upstreams implement their own entrypoint versioning and there are several different schemes they use: "foo-3.X", "foo-3X", "foo3.X", "foo3X". If upstream has any of these, it is advisable to adopt it. Packager should only manually create versioned files when they don't exist.
  • For both applications and libraries
    • Make sure that all hashbangs in resulting package are in form "#!/usr/bin/python3.X". Macros %{__python3} and %{__python3_other} in EPEL have these values, so if you invoke %{__python3} <action>, the entry points will automatically be set correctly. You must replace any upstream hardcoded hashbangs during build by using sed or other means.
  • TODO: provide the macro names and definitions here

Lifecycle of python3X stacks, rebuilding:

  • during periods when only a single Python 3 runtime is in EPEL, packages must be built with %with_python3 enabled (%with_python3_other is disabled in minimal buildroot)
  • when a new python3X+1 is built in EPEL - let's say that there is python34 and python35 has just been introduced:
    • %with_python3_other is enabled in minimal buildroot, %python3_pkgversion is still set to 34, %python3_other_pkgversion is still set to 35
    • (scripted) mass rebuild is run to build as much of the new stack possible automatically
    • all libraries should be rebuilt to provide python35-<name> subpackages
    • at a certain point at time, annoucement is made that python34 is to be retired and python35 is to be *the* one - at this point, python34 and python35 are rebuilt
      • python34-devel now provides the "other" macros, while python35 provides the "default" macros (note that all the specfiles still build just fine as they are)
    • all applications should be rebuilt to depend on python35 instead of python34
    • %with_python3_other is disabled in minimal buildroot
    • %python3_pkgversion is set to "35", %python3_other_pkgversion is set to "36"
    • no rebuild is needed at this point, but all packages build just python35-<name> subpackages
    • now the whole python34 stack can be retired (TODO: how?)

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