SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-01-22

Meeting Time

 * 2008-01-22 16:00 UTC
 * #fedora-meeting on freenode

Participants

 * KevinKofler
 * LukasTinkl
 * RexDieter
 * SebastianVahl

Agenda

 * topics to discuss:
 * Preparing for Fedora 9 Alpha
 * Upgrade path to KDE-4.0.0 (experiences from kde-redhat)
 * Compiz and KWin decorations (Compiz still uses old KWin 3 decorations)
 * Dropping compiz-kde support entirely?
 * comps-f9.xml
 * recent bugs:
 * 428212: unable to mount partitions in dolphin (Update)
 * 378041: unable to mount removable/ntfs (Update)

Transcript

 * fedora-kde-sig-2008-01-22.txt

Summary
Preparing for Fedora 9 Alpha:
 * rawhide is now frozen and kde should be ready for Fedora 9 Alpha

Upgrade path to KDE-4.0.0 (experiences from kde-redhat):
 * kdebase-workspace should be installed automatically during an upgrade (either in @kde-desktop or with Obsoletes: kdebase < 4)
 * Some upgraders seems to have problems with kdelibs/kdelibs4 -> kdelibs3/kdelibs

Compiz and KWin decorations (Compiz still uses old KWin 3 decorations):
 * Release Notes for kwin-4.0.0: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin/4.0-release-notes#Why_not_Compiz.3F
 * Compiz' kde-window-decorator is using KWin 3 API and libkdecoration will be removed from kdebase3 soon
 * kde-desktop-effects should either be removed or reworked to also include kwin's desktop effects and compiz (with emerald)

comps-f9.xml:
 * Packages that are obsolete now: d3lphin, kdeaddons, marble, ksudoku
 * Missing packages: extragear-plasma, kaider, okteta, kdegames3, kdeaddons-atlantikdesigner

Open discussion:
 * Kubuntu is workarounding #378041 and #428212 for KDE3 with hacks.
 * The patches needs to be ported to KDE4. But there is enough time until F9 to allow some time for hal to get fixed
 * LukasTinkl mentioned that upstream KDE would probably never support PolicyKit
 * knetworkmanager-0.7 branch (for NetworkManager-0.7) isn't compiling yet

Comments
(These comments are written after the meeting)