QA/Meetings/20100830

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):
 * jlaska (98)
 * adamw (66)
 * kparal (41)
 * wwoods (41)
 * jskladan (22)
 * skvidal (16)
 * Viking-Ice-Home (15)
 * fenris02 (10)
 * zodbot (4)
 * robatino (3)
 * jsmith (3)
 * vaschenb (2)

Unable to attend:
 * 1) Rhe
 * 2) Newgle1

= Agenda =
 * Proposed meeting agenda
 * MeetBot summary

Previous meeting follow-up

 * 1) adamw and jlaska to propose artwork final release criteria
 * jlaska sent out an email to design-team this morning to collect some thoughts (see http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-August/003190.html)


 * 1) jlaska to publish F-14-Alpha QA retrospective page
 * the wiki page is available for anyone to record thoughts about the Alpha ... (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_QA_Retrospective)
 * it's not wiki formatted to my liking yet, but I'll get to that soon

Aug 26 - OpenSCAP

 * Owner - kparal
 * Summary
 * Aug 26 - OpenSCAP
 * the test day was quite successful, quite a lot of problems were identified and they were fixed
 * the new openscap release, which is just waiting for pushing into updates, should fix all those issues


 * Next steps...
 * kparal will send a recap to the list later today

Sep 02 - preupgrade

 * Owner - rhe
 * Summary
 * Sep 02 - preupgrade
 * Wiki page and test cases in place. As rhe mentioned on the list, testing preupgrade-cli will be included in this event


 * Next steps...
 * will get some publicity out for this one as we'll want to have as many people as possible test
 * to reach out to rhe for any final wiki modifications needed

Sep 09 - systemd

 * Owner - adamwill
 * Summary
 * Sep 09 - Systemd
 * Adamw has the test day mostly set up, he would appreciate review of the monster test cases (which are heavily based on notting's systemd 'acceptance criteria')
 * Current systemd package in F-14 stable should resolve most of issues identified on mailing list (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/systemd-8-3.fc14,initscripts-9.17-2.fc14)


 * Next steps...
 * Adamw add a few other test cases, he'll check in with lennart on what he thinks so far
 * Viking-Ice intends to complete the systemd debugging page

Proventester (metrics and sponsor upgrade)

 * Owner - jlaska
 * Summary
 * Received a request from a proventester to be upgraded to a sponsor, so that they could mentor others. This got me thinking whether we have (or need) expectations around becoming a sponsor.
 * In addition, are we able to gather metrics about proventesters?


 * Next steps...
 * Adamw directed jlaska to the policy regarding becoming a mentor.
 * Jlaska will elevate mcloaked to sponsor status.
 * Adamw recalled previously filed metrics ticket (https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/456) and took action to follow-up at the next meeting

AutoQA update

 * Owner - User:wwoods
 * Summary
 * jskladan finished the "how to write autoqa tests" wiki draft (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jskladan/Sandbox:Writing_autoqa_tests)
 * wwoods updated the autoqa depcheck tickets to give a bit more information - including the "make it use mash" ticket (see https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/201)
 * vaschenb updated upgradepath, the new test... now it has improved output and is automaticaly started with post-bodhi-update hook


 * Next steps...
 * jskladan will replace current wiki page Writing_autoqa_tests with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jskladan/Sandbox:Writing_autoqa_tests
 * wwoods + jskladan investigating how best to handle mash with depcheck test
 * wwoods also investigating setting up depcheck to handle karma
 * autoqa team agrees now is a good time to make a new autoqa release and deploy it (coming soon ... autoqa-0.4.0-1)

= Open discussion -  =

= Upcoming QA events =


 * 2010-07-29 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose'
 * 2010-07-30 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #3
 * 2010-08-05 - Test Alpha Candidate
 * 2010-08-06 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #4
 * 2010-08-11 - Fedora 14 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 EST) -- introduced 1 week schedule slip
 * 2010-08-18 - Fedora 14 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting (17:00 EST)
 * 2010-08-24 - Alpha Public Availability
 * 2010-08-27 - Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #1
 * WE ARE HERE
 * 2010-09-02 - Pre-Beta Acceptance Test Plan
 * 2010-09-03 - Beta Blocker Meeting (f14beta) #2

= Action items =
 * 1) adamw contact lmacken about proventester metrics https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/456
 * 2) jlaska build and deploy new autoqa release

= IRC Transcript =

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