ReleaseEngineering/Meetings/2007-apr-23

= Fedora Release Engineering Meeting :: Monday 23-APR-07 =

Testing Status

 * woods:
 * It's good, although it's regressed a teeny bit since apr. 20 - mostly just some useless messages in %post from one of the packages
 * the major install problem with the RC tree is doing ftp/http installs
 * kickstarts work fine (which is how we do our testing)
 * people doing manual testing report that doing one by hand doesn't work
 * doing some additional ftp/http installs by hand
 * there's a couple of mysteriously crashed installs that seem to each have a mdraid install previous to them
 * jeremy:
 * actually, for tree existence first -- we've currently got an rc of the tree and I'm almost done creating the set of live images (i386, i386 kde and x86_64)
 * have installs going via ftp and http started from pxe :-/
 * ftp/http problem is booted off of media, not with just pxe
 * notting:
 * anaconda isn't handling ftp errors very well1, but the installer is starting

e1000 bug

 * davej switched to linus' latest tree that reverted that specific patch

The Freeze Question

 * jwb: people keep asking if things are frozen--what exactly _should_ we be telling people?
 * jeremy:
 * the freeze is more at how the buildsystem does things than cvs itself
 * having people concentrate on bugfixing leading up to the final freeze (+ branch) is the right answer
 * branching is good and bad... it lets people keep doing stuff, but it distracts from spending time on polishing the release and it also leads to a need for doubel commits for a while
 * wwoods: everything is frozen. Only updates that fix actual bugs (like stuff that people have filed in bugzilla) should go in

Tagging & Release Building

 * jeremy:
 * I'm keeping a list of things we might want if we do another test4 respin at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JeremyKatz/F7Test4
 * having a solid test4 is sorely needed and if we don't take the time now, we'll pay when it comes to the final release
 * notting: probably should tag the totem package hadess sent

Perl Multilib

 * perl multilib problem is still breaking deps
 * breaking out libperl is the solution and make sure perl depends on libperl
 * may slip schedule a little, but we will do best we can and should not be more than a few days (less than a week)
 * warren will make the perl changes

Release Status

 * make the perl changes today, tomorrow we have a new rawhide and a new RC tree
 * blocker type issues are: net installs from media, broken deps due to perl
 * need a day or two to test the Test4 RC
 * hope to start the push process late tomorrow or wednesday, available either later in the day thursday (craziness!) or friday
 * moving pygobject2 to test4
 * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JeremyKatz/F7Test4

Icon/theme changes

 * jeremy: decision went more like "is echo ready?" "nope, don't think so." "let's go back to bluecurve then.  "but that's boring.  let's go to something closer to the upstream default.  mist it is!"
 * echo is still included. just not default
 * gnome is the upstream default... mist is the same icons but different palette
 * notting: (Q): how is a icon theme change not an interface change post-freeze? :)
 * jeremy: (A): we explicitly said from the beginning that if coverage wasn't sufficient, we'd change.

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