Meeting:Board meeting 2009-12-17

Roll Call

 * Present: Paul Frields, Christopher Aillon, Josh Boyer, Dimitris Glezos, Bill Nottingham, John Poelstra, Jon McCann, Tom "spot" Callaway, Matt Domsch, Mike McGrath, Dennis Gilmore

Last meeting
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_meeting_2009-12-10

Updates/Installs presentation
ACTION:
 * William Jon McCann
 * Co-presenter: Christopher Aillon
 * pointed back to whiteboard link: Desktop/Whiteboards/UpdateExperience with new added "Impact" section with information from stakeholders
 * document doesn't present implementation, but records opinions garnered from current contributors and stakeholders
 * General Board consensus is that we do need to establish criteria for updates, and empower FESCo to enforce them
 * Lots of spirited discussion around various details of the proposal, with conversation that covered a lot of different issues but the Board is not ready to issue hard guidance yet
 * Unclear to what extent current pending changes (NFR, AutoQA) will impact any Fedora user's update experience, or how these changes are currently incorporated in the whiteboard
 * The whiteboard correctly identifies several problems but it's not clear that it completely lists root causes
 * 1) Enumerate the problems that need to be solved -- as explicitly as possible, no focus on solutions
 * 2) * Suggested method, repetitive "why" to make sure we're identifying the right root causes
 * 3) * On list, get owners for each problem from the Board side
 * 4) Then solicit ideas for proposed solutions

Next meeting

 * Thu Jan 07 2009 - 1700 UTC/12:00pm US Eastern (public IRC)