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23 日上午
[2007-11-23 08:55:05] =-= Topic for #fedora-cn was set by byuan on Monday, November 19, 2007 12:58:51 PM [2007-11-23 08:55:05]  *ChanServ* [#fedora-cn]  /charset utf-8 | mIRC 请设置 Font...->UTF-8: "Display and Encode" | Opera 请设置帐户属性->发送->默认编码: utf-8 | 粗野又心虚的老男人，有问题别客气尽管问 | 请向大家介绍自己，并稍候五到十分钟，使大家可以回应你 | 多行信息请贴到 http://rafb.net/paste/ 或 http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn [2007-11-23 08:55:05]  =-= Mode #fedora-cn +v byuan  by ChanServ [2007-11-23 09:12:20] -->| FelixZ (n=zxf@218.249.75.106) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 09:12:23] =-= Mode #fedora-cn +v FelixZ  by ChanServ [2007-11-23 09:22:46] -->| yshao (n=yshao@211.103.237.35) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 09:22:46] =-= Mode #fedora-cn +v yshao  by ChanServ [2007-11-23 09:30:13] -->| Kevin_U2 (n=chatzill@125.33.144.26) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 09:37:30] -->| freeflying (n=freeflyi@222.35.150.20) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 09:56:22] freeflying~ hi [2007-11-23 09:56:40]   yumex 把所有的包都安装了 yumex 本身有点慢 而且出错要从头开始 其中有2个包依赖有问题suck和qstat 还不能装  还有2个imap 只能装一个 否则会有冲突 uw-imap和cyrus-imapd [2007-11-23 09:56:47] 北京 北邮多发行版 Install Fest 是什么时候，具体时间？ [2007-11-23 09:58:38] 谁知道 red carp 的邮箱.. [2007-11-23 09:58:46] freeflying~ are you there? [2007-11-23 10:04:31] byuan: hi [2007-11-23 10:05:03]  freeflying~ 时间是多会儿？ [2007-11-23 10:05:15] 我要安排刻录光盘 [2007-11-23 10:05:48] [DCC]  Got DCC File Transfer offer from  installfest.pdf (81.4 KiB) [[Accept] [Accept this DCC offer] [dcc-accept b108]   [[Decline] [Decline (refuse) this DCC offer] [dcc-decline b108]  . [2007-11-23 10:06:05]  byuan: can u get it [2007-11-23 10:08:22]  [DCC]  Aborted DCC File Transfer of  freeflying (127.0.6.1:59677). [2007-11-23 10:08:42]  说啊，我没办法 get it. [2007-11-23 10:10:17]  文件传不过来 [2007-11-23 10:11:23]  时间：11 月 24 日 [2007-11-23 10:11:26]  地点：北京邮电大学教室 3-335 [2007-11-23 10:11:26]  主办方：北邮人论坛 Linux 版 [2007-11-23 10:11:26]  协办方：北京邮电大学开源软件协会 BOSS、BLUG [2007-11-23 10:11:26]  赞助方：未确定 [2007-11-23 10:11:27]  支持方：Ubuntu, Mandriva, OpenSuse, OpenSolaris, Fedora [2007-11-23 10:12:15]  那光盘就是现在发货也运不到了？ [2007-11-23 10:12:40]  上午还是下午？ [2007-11-23 10:12:42]  byuan: 在北京刻吧 [2007-11-23 10:12:49]  下午 [2007-11-23 10:13:05]  Fedora要是实在没人过去，我帮你们吧 [2007-11-23 10:13:14]  在北京刻？那个 ambassador 还没有搞到 ISO [2007-11-23 10:13:38]  虽然在校园网搞 ISO 很容易，却又没地方刻录 [2007-11-23 10:15:02]  byuan: 刻录不成问题的，而且我们这刻录应该比较便宜 [2007-11-23 10:16:36]  byuan: 我一次性帮你多刻些吧 [2007-11-23 10:17:00]   什么交流会？ [2007-11-23 10:17:25]   有专门外包刻盘的 [2007-11-23 10:19:29]  freeflying~ 我给你打 500 块钱，帮我刻 100 张 f8 liveCD (gnome) 和 50 张 f8 i386 DVD，不考虑其他体系了. 能找到 ISO 吗？ Thanks! [2007-11-23 10:20:30]   ISO 网上不是能下么. . .  自己用刻录机 要吐血的 . . . [2007-11-23 10:21:02]  byuan: 我让学生给办吧 [2007-11-23 10:21:16]  Kevin_U2~ 当然不是，得去电脑城，人家十台刻录机一起跑 [2007-11-23 10:22:12]  freeflying~ 好，明天那位 ambassador，Songlin Li  要是不能到场，还请张罗一下. . . 要是他到场了也没有帮手，给他派两个学生吧 [2007-11-23 10:22:19]   要电话么? 真有专门刻盘的还能刷logo  DVD 拿刻录机 . . . 150 张 [2007-11-23 10:22:30]  Kevin_U2~ 你在北京？ [2007-11-23 10:22:50]   文 [2007-11-23 10:22:52]   yes [2007-11-23 10:23:17]  Kevin_U2~ 我还以为你在上海. 那你不早说话，明天一定要去！缺人手呢. [2007-11-23 10:23:23]  Kevin_U2~ 邮箱？ [2007-11-23 10:23:27]  byuan: speecher怎么办 [2007-11-23 10:23:52]  byuan: 你把iso镜像的url给我 [2007-11-23 10:24:09]   晕 我都不了解. . . [2007-11-23 10:24:10]  我发了个邮件，只包含了点提议，不知道 speech 时间有多久？ [2007-11-23 10:24:30]   kevin_u2＠hotmail.com [2007-11-23 10:24:33]  freeflying~ live CD 有 url, DVD 没有，得找. 校园网里应该会有 [2007-11-23 10:24:57]  byuan: 30分钟 [2007-11-23 10:25:23]  byuan: 如果你们没人的话，你给slideshow给我，我帮你讲 [2007-11-23 10:25:29]   DVD 太大 http 看不到的 [2007-11-23 10:26:53]  o [2007-11-23 10:26:59]  Kevin_U2~ 你那里有 ISO? [2007-11-23 10:27:13]   有阿～ [2007-11-23 10:27:17]  Kevin_U2~ 你可以联系刻录？ [2007-11-23 10:27:21]   live 没有 我很少用 [2007-11-23 10:28:16]   刻过阿 [2007-11-23 10:28:43]   我打电话问问  明天就用？ [2007-11-23 10:31:06]  Kevin_U2~ 你把 ISO 复制给 freeflying? [2007-11-23 10:31:22]  这样刻录都交给学生们，在一个地方搞 [2007-11-23 10:31:35]  -->| abner (n=abner@n219077144187.netvigator.com) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 10:31:49]   DVD 3块 今天拿去就可以做完 100张 上面可以带log CD 1块5吧 [2007-11-23 10:31:53]  freeflying~ http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Live/i686/Fedora-8-Live-i686.iso [2007-11-23 10:32:24]  freeflying~ 怎么样？要么都在你那儿做，要么都交给 Kevin_U2 [2007-11-23 10:32:29]   我怎么给fly阿？！ [2007-11-23 10:33:08]  freeflying~ http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/i386/iso/Fedora-8-i386-DVD.iso [2007-11-23 10:33:10]  byuan: 我直接让北邮的组织者去帮忙吧 [2007-11-23 10:33:40]  <Kevin_U2> BT 快点吧 . . . [2007-11-23 10:33:55]  我也觉得交给学生去做比较好 [2007-11-23 10:34:07]  <Kevin_U2> 你们看吧 有需要联系我 我也是找专业的人做 [2007-11-23 10:34:15]  freeflying~ 有没有可能让学生们联系 Kevin_U2，复制一份 DVD iso? [2007-11-23 10:34:27]  freeflying~ 然后再去下载 liveCD iso [2007-11-23 10:34:46]  这样会快一些，如果他们在校园网里找不到的话. [2007-11-23 10:34:55]  byuan: 可以让他直接联系组织者 [2007-11-23 10:35:33]  他？ [2007-11-23 10:36:15]  Kevin_U2~ come on. 愿意这样干，把 ISO 交给学生，还是一切你来负责？ [2007-11-23 10:36:46]  <Kevin_U2> 都可以 我愿意帮忙 [2007-11-23 10:36:56]  Kevin_U2~ 你那儿下载 liveCD iso 要多久？ [2007-11-23 10:37:24]  -->| hellwolf (n=hellwolf@222.185.43.186) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 10:37:26]  =-= Mode #fedora-cn +v hellwolf  by ChanServ [2007-11-23 10:38:21]  <Kevin_U2> F8 gnome ？ 很快吧 [2007-11-23 10:38:51]  >Kevin_U2< 招行帐号，或者什么别的银行有吗？ [2007-11-23 10:39:07]  <Kevin_U2> Fedora-8-Live-i686 ？ [2007-11-23 10:39:31]  freeflying~ 把组织者的电话给 Kevin_U2 和 Songlin Li 发一份吧 :D [2007-11-23 10:39:37]  Kevin_U2~ 对 [2007-11-23 10:40:14]  <Kevin_U2> 我开始下了～ [2007-11-23 10:40:25]  <Kevin_U2> BT 还可以 [2007-11-23 10:41:00]  Kevin_U2 钱打到你那儿，然后你自己刻录吧，明天要是搬不动的话再找那些学生帮忙 :D [2007-11-23 10:41:25]  <Kevin_U2> 不用打钱了 做好了 再说吧 [2007-11-23 10:42:03]  <Kevin_U2> live 下载不到1个小时 [2007-11-23 10:42:16]  真好. [2007-11-23 10:42:24]  <Kevin_U2> 100 DVD  50 live ？ [2007-11-23 10:42:34]  byuan: 你让他们直接和 sunlt@csip.org.cn联系 [2007-11-23 10:42:48]  没有电话么.. [2007-11-23 10:43:05]  <Kevin_U2> 我的电话？ [2007-11-23 10:43:51]  Kevin_U2~ 我的电话可以在 google 上找到 :) 13632746531 [2007-11-23 10:44:43]  那光盘的事情就了结了.  freeflying 不给个电话，明天 Kevin_U2 把光盘搬到哪儿都不知道 [2007-11-23 10:45:32]  <Kevin_U2> 我的 ： 13141356655 （不办证 ） [2007-11-23 10:45:39]  byuan:  13811118472 孙廉涛 [2007-11-23 10:45:48]  freeflying~ 那个 ambassador 如果来不了， speech 的 ppt 在 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations [2007-11-23 10:46:06]  <Kevin_U2> 给我个地址我让刻录光盘的人明天送过去 [2007-11-23 10:46:35]  byuan: 好，算我开始 contribute to fedora :P [2007-11-23 10:48:14]  byuan: there have several, which one you prefer? [2007-11-23 10:48:17]  昨晚上印了好多 fedora tag. 金考快印要 80 块喷印一平米的.  hellwolf~ 想不想要啊？ [2007-11-23 10:48:53]  <Kevin_U2> 有fedora8 适合放在CD 上的图片么？ [2007-11-23 10:48:56]  byuan, :D 给张特写就好了 [2007-11-23 10:49:28]  Kevin_U2~ 有，很多呢. [2007-11-23 10:49:51]  <Kevin_U2> 给个地址 [2007-11-23 10:50:06]  <Kevin_U2> live 一个 i386 一个 就好了 [2007-11-23 10:51:37]  Kevin_U2~ http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/ [2007-11-23 10:51:44]  全都是 svg 格式 [2007-11-23 10:52:40]  Kevin_U2~ 还有 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F8 [2007-11-23 10:54:08]  <Kevin_U2> 没有CD 盒子 . . . [2007-11-23 10:54:42]  <Kevin_U2> 用第二个链接的了 [2007-11-23 10:56:07]  nice! 我没有真的做过，只是在电脑城问过价钱之类 [2007-11-23 10:57:40]  -->| InitX (n=chatzill@218.81.228.206) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 10:57:58]  freeflying~ 还有什么要考虑的？ [2007-11-23 10:58:16]  <InitX> my X still can't working with FontPath section [2007-11-23 10:58:21]  freeflying~ 参与者都是北邮学生吗？ [2007-11-23 10:58:23]  <InitX> :( [2007-11-23 10:58:24]  <InitX> Yuxans: [2007-11-23 10:58:30]  <Kevin_U2> 我刻录的可以没有盒子啊 [2007-11-23 10:58:31]  InitX~ 为什么要用 fontpath [2007-11-23 10:58:56]  <InitX> byuan: because i'm not using xfs [2007-11-23 10:58:59]  InitX~ 多少版的 xorg? 新的已经不用 xfs 和 fontpath 了 [2007-11-23 10:59:11]  byuan: 周边的几所学校 [2007-11-23 10:59:19]  <InitX> byuan: :o [2007-11-23 10:59:21]  <Yuxans> suker mm ？ [2007-11-23 10:59:25]  <InitX> byuan: give me the details [2007-11-23 10:59:27]  freeflying~ 那得有多少人啊 [2007-11-23 10:59:28]  byuan, 那x core font 怎么配置了？ [2007-11-23 10:59:45]  byuan: 未知 :P [2007-11-23 10:59:53]  InitX~ 是通过在 /etc/X11/ 下面的一个目录，创建链接 [2007-11-23 11:00:03]  hellwolf~ 创建特定名称的链接 [2007-11-23 11:00:06]  <InitX> byuan: i use F7 but i forgot what verison of my xorg [2007-11-23 11:00:14]  <InitX> byuan: which file [2007-11-23 11:00:15]  <InitX> fs? [2007-11-23 11:00:18]  包括优先级之类，都用链接 [2007-11-23 11:00:26]  byuan, 那 f8 下 的 emacs22 怎么配置 [2007-11-23 11:01:08]  <InitX> byuan: when i start X the error message are  could not open font "cursor" [2007-11-23 11:01:35]  谁有 f8 ，来试一下 emacs ？ [2007-11-23 11:01:51]  InitX~ 这个 cursor 和 fixed 两种字体都已经嵌入 libXfont 了，不需要任何 xfs/fontpath [2007-11-23 11:02:13]  所以应该是你的 libXfont 版本不对，或者编译选项有问题 [2007-11-23 11:02:31]  # du -sh os [2007-11-23 11:02:31]  7.7G    os [2007-11-23 11:02:52]  今天估计能下好 [2007-11-23 11:02:56]  <InitX> if i without FontPath section in xorg.conf then X window can working normally [2007-11-23 11:03:52]  <InitX> if i set the FontPath in xorg.conf file then X window started with error message could not open font "cursor" then hangup [2007-11-23 11:04:17]  :D 果然是这样 [2007-11-23 11:04:26]  <Kevin_U2> svg 是矢量图么？ [2007-11-23 11:04:30]  InitX~ 那你就别用 fontpath 了呗 [2007-11-23 11:04:45]  Kevin_U2~ 对. 你用那个 png 的吧？ [2007-11-23 11:04:56]  <InitX> byuan: if i dont use FontPath how can i display chinese font? [2007-11-23 11:04:59]  Kevin_U2~ 不是每个 svg 都有 png 对应的么 [2007-11-23 11:05:02]  以后xorg估计都不需要xorg.conf了 [2007-11-23 11:05:06]  InitX~ 链接啊 [2007-11-23 11:05:16]  <Kevin_U2> 哦 我下了 让他们看吧？    盒子不需要了么？ [2007-11-23 11:05:19]  InitX~ 我不记得地址了，大概是 /etc/X11/fontpath.d/ [2007-11-23 11:05:23]  <InitX> byuan: how to? [2007-11-23 11:05:27]  <InitX> -_- [2007-11-23 11:05:32]  <InitX> freeflying: negative boy [2007-11-23 11:05:52]  CSDN 的下载频道真是 F＊CK，不能断点续传 [2007-11-23 11:05:57]  InitX~ 装一个 wqy-bitmap-fonts 然后看看它创建的链接是什么样子来？ [2007-11-23 11:06:26]  <InitX> in which file? [2007-11-23 11:06:42]  <InitX> which file should i checked? [2007-11-23 11:07:12]  rpm -ql wqy-bitmap-fonts 看看有没有 /etc/X11/ 的东西？ [2007-11-23 11:07:29]  <InitX> freeflying: if you trace X binary you will see a lot of working during them [2007-11-23 11:07:51]  <InitX> byuan: let me c [2007-11-23 11:07:55]  |<-- InitX has left mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514] ") [2007-11-23 11:11:04]  <Kevin_U2> byuan: 给我个详细地址? [2007-11-23 11:11:26]  详细地址？ [2007-11-23 11:11:27]  -->| InitX|F7 (n=initx@218.81.228.206) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 11:11:31]  <Kevin_U2> 地点：北京邮电大学教室 3-335 [2007-11-23 11:11:34]  <InitX|F7> :p byuan get it [2007-11-23 11:11:57]  <Kevin_U2> 时间没有 [2007-11-23 11:12:16]  <Kevin_U2> 是北太平庄那吧 [2007-11-23 11:12:19]  Hiahia.. 估计你得直接联系 “孙廉涛 13811118472” 了. 刚才说是下午？ [2007-11-23 11:12:53]  <InitX|F7> its in /etc/fonts/conf.d [2007-11-23 11:12:56]  <Kevin_U2> OK [2007-11-23 11:13:30]  换上我，我就自己搬了.. 没搞过，果然不一样 [2007-11-23 11:13:37]  <InitX|F7> byuan, i write FontPath section in xorg.conf because of xorg.conf  manual [2007-11-23 11:13:39]  Kevin_U2~ 这次真是谢谢你了！ [2007-11-23 11:14:21]  InitX|F7~ not /etc/fonts/conf.d, that is for fontconfig, not for X core font. It's rather in /etc/X11/fontpath.d, could you check it again? [2007-11-23 11:14:50]  <Kevin_U2> 客气了 [2007-11-23 11:14:55]  <InitX|F7> yesterday i had man xorg.conf  in the manual it said use FontPath to set font [2007-11-23 11:15:51]  <InitX|F7> byuan,  i had checked /etc/X11/fontpath.d it syblink to /etc/fontpath.d/ [2007-11-23 11:16:31]  <InitX|F7> symbolic [2007-11-23 11:16:38]  <InitX|F7> --_-- [2007-11-23 11:17:26]  Kevin_U2~ 明天还要和 Songlin Li 合作，不知道现场会怎么样 [2007-11-23 11:17:48]  <InitX|F7> byuan, but there  is only one symbolic file in /etc/X11/fontpath.d/ [2007-11-23 11:18:01]  <InitX|F7> wqy-zenhe-fonts [2007-11-23 11:18:06]  links to? [2007-11-23 11:18:16]  <Kevin_U2> 网上有公告么 我先看看了解一下 [2007-11-23 11:18:36]  <InitX|F7> it links to /usr/share/fonts/wqy-zenhei [2007-11-23 11:19:28]  InitX|F7~ then do the same thing for your fonts, put fonts in somewhere under /usr/share/fonts/, then create symbol link... [2007-11-23 11:19:51]  <InitX|F7> may i create  the symbolic for all fonts that i want in this path? [2007-11-23 11:20:05]  <InitX|F7> got it [2007-11-23 11:20:10]  no, but only the directory [2007-11-23 11:20:22]  link only the directory, not any specific font file [2007-11-23 11:20:59]  <InitX|F7> byuan, got it another question how can i checked X window to load these fonts currently [2007-11-23 11:21:42]  run xlsfonts [2007-11-23 11:22:23]  <InitX|F7> whereis xlsfonts [2007-11-23 11:22:24]  <InitX|F7> xlsfonts: [2007-11-23 11:22:26]  <InitX|F7> ... [2007-11-23 11:22:43]  xorg-x11-fonts-utils maybe [2007-11-23 11:25:02]  <InitX|F7> byuan,  http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/4121 [2007-11-23 11:25:08]  <InitX|F7> which one [2007-11-23 11:25:57]  yum install xlsfonts ? [2007-11-23 11:26:22]  I don't know. yum search xlsfonts? [2007-11-23 11:26:38]  |<-- alex_wing has left mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion (Remote closed the connection) [2007-11-23 11:28:01]  <InitX|F7> No Matches found [2007-11-23 11:28:16]  <InitX|F7> byuan,  -_- [2007-11-23 11:33:34]  <Kevin_U2> svgz  怎么搞？ [2007-11-23 11:35:01]  Kevin_U2~ 直接用 png 吧 [2007-11-23 11:35:10]  |<-- InitX|F7 has left mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion ("Leaving") [2007-11-23 11:35:14]  svgz 需要转图片不是 [2007-11-23 11:35:49]  <Kevin_U2> 不知道怎么压缩的 [2007-11-23 11:36:07]  <Kevin_U2> 我知道png 可以了 [2007-11-23 11:36:12]  gzip. 得这样 cat xxxx.svgz | gunzip -d ? [2007-11-23 11:36:39]  <Kevin_U2> gunzip  弄不了 [2007-11-23 11:36:40]  Kevin_U2~ 支持 svg 的软件一般都会支持 svgz，所以如果打不开 svgz 就得换个软件 - -! [2007-11-23 11:37:12]  <Kevin_U2> 没关系 有时间再看吧 [2007-11-23 11:37:19]  <Kevin_U2> linux 下弄不了了 [2007-11-23 11:37:20]  哦，你是说那三个 svgz. 文件比较大，大概是下载没下完 [2007-11-23 11:37:37]  <Kevin_U2> 哦 也可能 [2007-11-23 11:37:48]  4M, 4M, 2M [2007-11-23 11:39:32]  真可怕，firefox 都差点搞挂掉 [2007-11-23 11:39:44]  <Kevin_U2> 弄bt 路由就不正常了 ～ [2007-11-23 11:41:00]  <Kevin_U2> 下完了 我中午去办 [2007-11-23 11:46:08]  -->| huahua (n=huahua@221.201.190.129) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 11:46:09]  =-= Mode #fedora-cn +v huahua  by ChanServ [2007-11-23 11:52:03]  -->| yafengabc (n=yafengab@60.25.189.174) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 11:53:13]  huahua?,Hiweed的老大? [2007-11-23 11:53:40]  副手 [2007-11-23 11:55:06]  fedora的频道人好少,不是国内用这个的最多吗? [2007-11-23 11:56:47]  =-= huahua is now known as Lige [2007-11-23 11:57:36]  Lige~ 又换 [2007-11-23 11:57:54]  <Lige> byuan, 我家 hers 好 [2007-11-23 11:57:57]  === yafengabc <n=yafengab@60.25.189.174>  http://freenode.net/'' [2007-11-23 11:57:57]  --- End of WHOIS information for yafengabc. [2007-11-23 11:58:07]  <Lige> byuan, 德芙黑巧克力好喜欢~ [2007-11-23 11:58:21]  yafengabc~ 用 ubuntu 的人最多？再者用 fedora 的也不热衷聊天 [2007-11-23 11:58:23]  =-= Lige is now known as lige [2007-11-23 11:58:30]  Lige~ 哟，人家送你的？ [2007-11-23 11:59:11]  取反 [2007-11-23 12:20:04]  -->| ssflying (n=ssflying@222.20.254.241) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 12:20:45]  -->| AutumnCat (n=AutumnCa@59.41.108.142) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 12:23:17]  那用fedora的人热衷工作咯 [2007-11-23 12:29:05]  那天看csdn的某报道,说国内fedora用户要占50% + [2007-11-23 12:29:33]  csdn 你都相信 [2007-11-23 12:33:51]  -->| InitX|F7 (n=initx@218.81.228.206) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 12:33:56]  <InitX|F7> byuan, hi [2007-11-23 12:34:06]  <InitX|F7> byuan, it seems not working [2007-11-23 12:34:34]  <InitX|F7> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 11-23 11:51 zh_TW -> /usr/share/fonts/zh_TW/TrueType [2007-11-23 12:34:46]  <InitX|F7> i had create symbolic in it [2007-11-23 12:35:09]  <InitX|F7> but X still can't display chinese TW [2007-11-23 12:39:27]  |<-- InitX|F7 has left mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion ("Leaving") [2007-11-23 12:42:47]  -->| O_Q (n=yengghi@202.38.237.91) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 12:46:33]  -->| yafeng (n=yafengab@60.25.189.106) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 12:46:34]  -->| InitX|F7 (n=initx@218.81.228.206) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 12:46:58]  have you found xlsfonts? [2007-11-23 12:48:43]  <InitX|F7> no [2007-11-23 12:48:57]  <InitX|F7> are you sure this is command in F7? [2007-11-23 12:49:45]  hellwolf~ help? which package does xlsfonts resides (in)? [2007-11-23 12:50:11]  * byuan bad english is worse than my shit [2007-11-23 12:50:26]  $ rpm -qf $(type -P xlsfonts) [2007-11-23 12:50:27]  xorg-x11-utils-7.1-4.fc7 [2007-11-23 12:52:07]  great. [2007-11-23 12:52:40]  # du -sh os [2007-11-23 12:52:40]  8.2G    os [2007-11-23 12:52:43]  到底有多大 [2007-11-23 12:53:00]  # du -sh download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Everything/i386/os/ [2007-11-23 12:53:00]  8.8G    download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Everything/i386/os/ [2007-11-23 12:53:05]  F8 是不是应该再大点？ [2007-11-23 12:53:08]  9G？ [2007-11-23 12:53:08]  10G？ [2007-11-23 12:55:06]  hellwolf~ 你那边 livna repo f8 branch 有多大？ [2007-11-23 12:55:12]  freshrpms 呢？ [2007-11-23 12:55:59]  # du -sh ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/8/i386/freshrpms/ [2007-11-23 12:56:00]  177M    ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/8/i386/freshrpms/ [2007-11-23 12:56:05]  livna 没有 [2007-11-23 12:57:54]  诶，对了 [2007-11-23 12:58:06]  http://cn.engadget.com/2007/11/22/jvc-victor-gets-official-with-4k-x-2k-dla-sh4k-projector/ 4096x2400 的投影仪? [2007-11-23 12:58:07]  我可以在linuxfire.com.cn上挂一个 BadBoy [2007-11-23 12:59:02]  -->| swz (n=yafengab@60.25.189.106) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 12:59:33]  <Yuxans> 我可以在linuxfire.com.cn上挂一个 BadBoy < --- 这个可是 x11 的名字？ [2007-11-23 13:00:05]  Yuxans, 你对他这么敏感？ [2007-11-23 13:00:08]  |<-- yafengabc has left mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [2007-11-23 13:00:23]  <Yuxans> hellwolf: 不至于 [2007-11-23 13:03:35]  :D [2007-11-23 13:04:15]  Yuxans: fire上怎么都没有screen? [2007-11-23 13:04:34]  <InitX|F7>  rpm -ql xorg-x11-font-utils |grep xls [2007-11-23 13:04:39]  <InitX|F7> byuan, nothing [2007-11-23 13:04:46]  <InitX|F7> byuan, its nothing [2007-11-23 13:04:55]  <Yuxans> freeflying: 有，那天我见一个 uid=1007 的人开了 [2007-11-23 13:05:16]  Yuxans: 自己整上去的吧 [2007-11-23 13:05:22]  有阿 [2007-11-23 13:05:44]  hellwolf@www:~$ hostname [2007-11-23 13:05:45]  <Yuxans> 1007     27635     1  0 Nov19 ?        00:00:00 SCREEN [2007-11-23 13:05:45]  www.linuxfire.com.cn [2007-11-23 13:05:45]  hellwolf@www:~$ type -P screen [2007-11-23 13:05:45]  /usr/bin/screen [2007-11-23 13:06:00]  Yuxans: 再整个irssi吧 [2007-11-23 13:06:08]  <Yuxans> .... [2007-11-23 13:06:18]  <Yuxans> fire 拒绝长时间滞留，嘿嘿 [2007-11-23 13:06:34]  那你弄个ulimit [2007-11-23 13:06:39]  限制进程时间 [2007-11-23 13:06:40]  InitX|F7~ xorg-x11-utils 吧 [2007-11-23 13:06:49]  cpu time               (seconds, -t) unlimited [2007-11-23 13:06:58]  <Yuxans> ... [2007-11-23 13:07:06]  max user processes              (-u) unlimited [2007-11-23 13:07:14]  这个都没限阿 [2007-11-23 13:07:21]  搞死他 [2007-11-23 13:08:06]  <Yuxans> ... [2007-11-23 13:08:17]  hellwolf: 赶快 [2007-11-23 13:10:00]  <Yuxans> 为了快速完成任务快速撤退没限制啥 [2007-11-23 13:23:05]  <InitX|F7> byuan,  i had install xorg-x11-utils [2007-11-23 13:23:28]  <InitX|F7> xlsfonts display just 4 fonts that i used [2007-11-23 13:24:34]  <InitX|F7> The symbolic links i created for fonts not loaded by X [2007-11-23 13:25:15]  是不是还得 mkfontdir mkfontscale 这些老家伙 [2007-11-23 13:26:10]  <InitX|F7> hellwolf,  dont know need byuan to answer [2007-11-23 13:26:38]  [ERROR]  No match for  aar''. [2007-11-23 13:38:01]  要做一个 fonts.dir 文件啦 [2007-11-23 13:38:34]  freeflying~ redhat 有什么人确定会参与吗？ [2007-11-23 13:40:30]  http://kojiweb.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=281413 可以看到， wqy-bitmap-fonts 包含了 fonts.dir 文件 [2007-11-23 13:47:03]  yshao~ 你好！周六北邮有活动，请问 redhat 有没有参加？在北京只有一位 fedora ambassador，我担心他独力难支，因此想要一些技术上的支持. 我已经转发了一封相关的邮件，请查收. 谢谢！ [2007-11-23 13:54:02]  <InitX|F7> byuan, [2007-11-23 13:54:12]  ? [2007-11-23 13:54:15]  <InitX|F7> xlsfonts display just 4 fonts that i used [2007-11-23 13:54:20]  <InitX|F7> The symbolic links i created for fonts not loaded by X [2007-11-23 13:54:28]  <InitX|F7> anyidea? [2007-11-23 14:00:21]  create fonts.dir in your font directory [2007-11-23 14:00:36]  then link that directory to /etc/X11/fontpath.d/ [2007-11-23 14:00:53]  finally restart X I think.. [2007-11-23 14:01:06]  but take care of your fonts.dir file [2007-11-23 14:01:53]  说到 font.dir ， wqy zenhei 的 F7 打包似乎没有创建这两个文件 [2007-11-23 14:04:05]  <InitX|F7> byuan,  /exec ls -l /usr/share/fonts/ [2007-11-23 14:04:10]  <InitX|F7> byuan,  /exec -o ls -l /usr/share/fonts/ [2007-11-23 14:04:18]  <InitX|F7> total 32 [2007-11-23 14:04:18]  <InitX|F7> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2007-11-23 11:47 chinese [2007-11-23 14:04:18]  <InitX|F7> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-11-22 19:39 wqy-zenhei [2007-11-23 14:04:18]  <InitX|F7> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-11-22 19:30 zh_CN [2007-11-23 14:04:18]  <InitX|F7> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-11-22 19:30 zh_TW [2007-11-23 14:04:29]  hellwolf~ 那为啥 kojiweb 会列出来呢 [2007-11-23 14:04:39]  o. zenhei [2007-11-23 14:04:44]  <InitX|F7> total 12680 [2007-11-23 14:04:47]  <InitX|F7> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root        2 2007-11-08 14:34 fonts.dir [2007-11-23 14:04:47]  <InitX|F7> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12949776 2007-10-31 18:23 wqy-zenhei.ttf [2007-11-23 14:04:53]  <InitX|F7> there is a fonts.dir [2007-11-23 14:04:55]  byuan, 里面没 zen hei 字体 [2007-11-23 14:05:01]  byuan, 空的 [2007-11-23 14:05:24]  <InitX|F7> -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--0-0-75-75-c-0-iso8859-1 [2007-11-23 14:05:24]  <InitX|F7> -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-100-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1 [2007-11-23 14:05:24]  <InitX|F7> -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1 [2007-11-23 14:05:24]  <InitX|F7> 6x13 [2007-11-23 14:05:24]  <InitX|F7> cursor [2007-11-23 14:05:24]  <InitX|F7> fixed [2007-11-23 14:05:36]  矢量字体得用 fonts.scale，不用 fonts.dir [2007-11-23 14:06:21]  <InitX|F7> byuan, i had create almost 10 symbolic link of fonts [2007-11-23 14:06:38]  why 10 links? [2007-11-23 14:06:38]  <InitX|F7> 100dpi 75dpi zh-CN -zh-TW [2007-11-23 14:07:03]  byuan, 但 zenkai shanheisun 都有 font.dir [2007-11-23 14:07:07]  <InitX|F7> i mean 10 different kind of fonts [2007-11-23 14:07:10]  /usr/share/fonts/chinese/TrueType/fonts.dir byuan [2007-11-23 14:07:16]  <InitX|F7> yes [2007-11-23 14:07:24]  <InitX|F7> there are all have fonts.dir [2007-11-23 14:07:26]  hellwolf~ 我连不上家里的机器. 那些都内嵌点阵了吧？ [2007-11-23 14:07:51]  再者做一个 fonts.scale 然后复制成 fonts.dir 就行，以前一直都是这样干的 [2007-11-23 14:08:11]  <InitX|F7> byuan, it also have fonts.scale [2007-11-23 14:08:17]  <InitX|F7> -_- [2007-11-23 14:08:27]  <InitX|F7> in 100dpi 75dpi [2007-11-23 14:09:48]  |<-- InitX|F7 has left mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion (Remote closed the connection) [2007-11-23 14:11:09]  -->| InitX|F7 (n=initx@218.81.228.206) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 14:11:19]  <InitX|F7> still not working [2007-11-23 14:11:23]  <InitX|F7> :( [2007-11-23 14:11:25]  <InitX|F7> byuan, [2007-11-23 14:11:26]  |<-- ssflying has left mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion (""Core Dump"") [2007-11-23 14:11:30]  what? [2007-11-23 14:11:52]  <InitX|F7> i had create font.scale that you asked [2007-11-23 14:12:12]  <InitX|F7> but these fonts are still not working for me [2007-11-23 14:12:14]  -->| ssflying (n=ssflying@222.20.254.241) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 14:12:19]  hellwolf~ 我约了今天晚上讨论 Songlin 的 speech 内容，你觉得他晚上会来吗？. . . [2007-11-23 14:12:37]  InitX|F7~ copy fonts.scale to fonts.dir, if fonts.dir is blank [2007-11-23 14:12:54]  byuan, 谁／ [2007-11-23 14:13:21]  那个 fedora ambassador in beijing, 明天代表 fedora 参加 install fest [2007-11-23 14:13:36]  不是邮件都给你转了吗 [2007-11-23 14:14:19]  <InitX|F7> byuan, there are not empty [2007-11-23 14:14:45]  <InitX|F7> byuan, there are not empty fonts.dir and fonts.scale files [2007-11-23 14:14:50]  byuan, 哦，还没看呢 [2007-11-23 14:15:30]  byuan, 关于livna镜像 [2007-11-23 14:15:43]  byuan, 不全作了，就做freshrpms里没有的？ [2007-11-23 14:15:53]  byuan, 不，就做驱动的镜像，然后自己createrepo吧／ [2007-11-23 14:16:13]  什么什么 [2007-11-23 14:16:26]  你是说 ftp.fedora.cn 还是？ [2007-11-23 14:16:41]  把 livna 里的 驱动全部下下来createrepo然后传到 ftp.fedora.cn [2007-11-23 14:16:42]  InitX|F7~ I've no idea. [2007-11-23 14:17:00]  更名 livna-driver repo [2007-11-23 14:17:10]  加到fedora-cn-release里，默认 enable=0 [2007-11-23 14:17:18]  livna-drivers [2007-11-23 14:17:57]  那你直接加到 fedora-cn repo 不是一样吗 [2007-11-23 14:18:44]  我不熟悉那些个驱动，有多少软件？ [2007-11-23 14:19:49]  -->| r0bertz|work (i=zhangle@gentoo/developer/r0bertz) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 14:20:04]  =-= swz is now known as yafeng [2007-11-23 14:20:16]  -->| alex_wing (n=chatzill@211.144.205.210) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 14:30:30]  -->| Yuxans (n=yuxans@2001:618:400:0:0:0:d367:f43c) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 14:33:37]  <InitX|F7> Yuxans, IPv6? [2007-11-23 14:34:29]  <Yuxans> 恩 [2007-11-23 14:34:37]  <Yuxans> 有意见？ [2007-11-23 14:43:07]  |<-- InitX|F7 has left mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion ("Leaving") [2007-11-23 14:47:13]  |<-- ssflying has left mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion (""Core Dump"") [2007-11-23 14:50:49]  -->| freeflying (n=freeflyi@222.35.150.20) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 15:42:09]  <InitX|F7> byuan, [2007-11-23 15:42:24]  <InitX|F7> paste your xorg.conf file to me [2007-11-23 15:46:42]  InitX|F7~ sorry I cannot. And my xorg.conf is the default one.. [2007-11-23 15:47:08]  <InitX|F7> byuan, never mind just paste it for me [2007-11-23 15:48:16]  -->| rEdcArp_yu (n=yyu@218.17.61.225) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 15:48:17]  =-= Mode #fedora-cn +v rEdcArp_yu  by ChanServ [2007-11-23 15:50:42]  rEdcArp_yu~ hi~ [2007-11-23 15:50:56]  <rEdcArp_yu> hi byuan [2007-11-23 15:52:11]  rEdcArp_yu: hey [2007-11-23 15:52:19]  <rEdcArp_yu> hi freeflying [2007-11-23 15:52:28]  <rEdcArp_yu> hi everyone... i got a slow link here [2007-11-23 15:52:30]  rEdcArp_yu: will u attend tomorrow's event [2007-11-23 15:52:37]  <rEdcArp_yu> which one? [2007-11-23 15:52:47]  rEdcArp_yu: beijing [2007-11-23 15:52:53]  distro show [2007-11-23 15:53:03]  <rEdcArp_yu> 北邮？ [2007-11-23 15:53:11]  rEdcArp_yu: yup [2007-11-23 15:53:21]  <rEdcArp_yu> oh yes I changed my flight to catch up [2007-11-23 15:53:46]  <rEdcArp_yu> but i'm afraid to give a short talk about RHEL5 which I'm more familiar with if have to [2007-11-23 15:53:58]  rEdcArp_yu: come on, u r always our kindly sponsor [2007-11-23 15:54:11]  :P [2007-11-23 15:54:31]  <rEdcArp_yu> emmmm sponsor sounds specious [2007-11-23 15:55:11]  * byuan how I wish I could book a flight right now [2007-11-23 15:55:15]  if u can not, who can :P [2007-11-23 15:55:23]  -->| untitled (n=untitled@59.61.216.54) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 15:55:25]  byuan: sure, u can [2007-11-23 15:55:29]  :P [2007-11-23 15:55:29]  Hiahia [2007-11-23 15:56:32]  <rEdcArp_yu> byuan: you can use a potter's equipment [2007-11-23 15:56:45]  <rEdcArp_yu> freeflying: you'll be there? [2007-11-23 15:56:49]  <rEdcArp_yu> anyone else? [2007-11-23 15:57:06]  I don't buy his magic books so he may not know me :p [2007-11-23 15:57:17]  rEdcArp_yu: like fred, amy, etc [2007-11-23 15:57:25]  <rEdcArp_yu> wow [2007-11-23 15:57:29]  <rEdcArp_yu> a big thing [2007-11-23 15:58:48]  byuan: the organizer need confirm with u the speecher of fedora now [2007-11-23 15:58:59]  rEdcArp_yu~ I fwd u an email this morning that an fedora ambassador in Beijing will be there but I wonder if he could do it nicely.. anyway it is a good thing than nothing [2007-11-23 15:59:18]  <rEdcArp_yu> that'll be great [2007-11-23 15:59:23]  <rEdcArp_yu> byuan [2007-11-23 16:01:43]  <rEdcArp_yu> who is that? [2007-11-23 16:06:00]  wo zou cuo ping dao le ? [2007-11-23 16:06:04]  =-= huahua_ is now known as Huahua [2007-11-23 16:06:17]  =-= Mode #fedora-cn +v Huahua  by ChanServ [2007-11-23 16:07:21]  <rEdcArp_yu> hellwolf: yes, here's the heaven [2007-11-23 16:07:39]  -->| InitX|F7 (n=initx@218.81.228.206) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 16:07:40]  <InitX|F7> :p [2007-11-23 16:07:47]  <InitX|F7> i did it [2007-11-23 16:08:01]  freeflying~ confirm with me? please call this guy instead. 13810495791 Songlin Li [2007-11-23 16:08:36]  <InitX|F7> but traditional chinese cant display [2007-11-23 16:09:42]  # du -sh os [2007-11-23 16:09:42]  9.2G    os [2007-11-23 16:09:48]  digikam-devel-0.9.2-5.fc8.i386.rpm [2007-11-23 16:09:49]  digikam-0.9.2-5.fc8.i386.rpm [2007-11-23 16:10:05]  倒序下到这里 [2007-11-23 16:10:12]  <InitX|F7> did fonts-chinese package support Traditional chinese and Simplified [2007-11-23 16:10:14]  <InitX|F7> chinese [2007-11-23 16:13:08]  <InitX|F7> file:///usr/share/doc/HTML/index-pa.html [2007-11-23 16:13:14]  byuan: will rEdcArp_yu be alternative? [2007-11-23 16:13:27]  that will be nice! [2007-11-23 16:13:53]  <rEdcArp_yu> that's OK for me :) [2007-11-23 16:14:23]  <InitX|F7> whats language in pa.html? [2007-11-23 16:14:39]  I do hope that Songlin will do it well. [2007-11-23 16:15:41]  byuan: or I can do it for u :P [2007-11-23 16:15:48]  <rEdcArp_yu> haha [2007-11-23 16:15:57]  <rEdcArp_yu> that's a signal? [2007-11-23 16:16:44]  Kevin_U2~ what is your status now? :) [2007-11-23 16:19:51]  <rEdcArp_yu> seems the release notes for F8 still no Chinese. [2007-11-23 16:24:16]  ... 只差 15 个没有翻译的句子 [2007-11-23 16:25:04]  F8 F8 updates 终于要同步完了 [2007-11-23 16:25:20]  <rEdcArp_yu> 恩 [2007-11-23 16:25:24]  f8 发行前一天更新了 pot，中文的没有及时跟上.. 现在就这样了 [2007-11-23 16:25:31]  <rEdcArp_yu> 这样啊 [2007-11-23 16:51:22]  -->| xavier_ (n=chatzill@218.56.75.12) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 16:51:46]  =-= xavier_ is now known as hypnotist [2007-11-23 17:17:29]  <Kevin_U2> byuan, 已经去刻录了 要晚上8点才能拿到 [2007-11-23 17:17:33]  <Kevin_U2> DVD 慢 [2007-11-23 17:18:12]  神速啊，晚上8点就可以拿到了 [2007-11-23 17:18:48]  印了些什么？应该很漂亮吧 [2007-11-23 17:22:12]  <Huahua> byuan, 赞 Kevin_U2 [2007-11-23 17:23:47]  <Kevin_U2> 就你给我那个链接上的 CD [2007-11-23 17:24:54]  <Kevin_U2> 我去他那弄的 看见是光盘塔 [2007-11-23 17:25:11]  <Kevin_U2> DVD 只能8速刻录  否则会有坏盘 [2007-11-23 17:25:47]  -->| goodlucky (n=goodluck@123.6.121.133) has joined #fedora-cn [2007-11-23 17:25:54]  <Kevin_U2> 晕 现在就好了 [2007-11-23 17:26:14]  <Kevin_U2> 我要去取了 堵车阿 . . .  刚从那回来 [2007-11-23 17:31:23]  byuan: 很想看看吧，赶紧飞北京吧 [2007-11-23 17:31:44]  <Kevin_U2> byuan 不在北京？ [2007-11-23 17:32:51]  不是说明天人家给送么. DVD 得慢慢刻录？ [2007-11-23 17:33:01]  Kevin_U2~ 我在深圳 :) [2007-11-23 17:33:25]  一起去斗地主吧 [2007-11-23 17:56:55]  <Kevin_U2> 好了 一会就送来了 ！ 我明天找 孙廉涛 13811118472 吗？ [2007-11-23 17:58:37]  那个是组织整个活动的学生. 你当然得找他了，不过还要先和 Songlin Li 商量好怎么做. 晚上他会过来参加 IRC 聚会，夜里再说吧 [2007-11-23 18:01:04]  |<-- yshao has left mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion ("Leaving") [2007-11-23 18:01:31]  <Kevin_U2> 20：00 我吃饭的时候. . . [2007-11-23 18:02:33]  <Kevin_U2> 晕 我都上班了 . . . [2007-11-23 18:03:22]  你上班时间？ @_@ [2007-11-23 18:06:30]  <Kevin_U2> 现在下班 了 呵呵 [2007-11-23 18:06:41]  <Kevin_U2>  我有时间办这些事 [2007-11-23 18:13:20]  * byuan 吃饭去先，晚上见 [2007-11-23 18:13:37]  <Kevin_U2> ok

20:00 聚会日志
--- Log opened 五 11月 23 19:35:27 2007 20:28 <+hers> 有没有想聊天？ 20:37 < Kevin_U2> 聊what啊？ 20:38 < Kevin_U2> hers 你明天去么？ 20:41 为什么一离开北京就有活动:( 20:42 < Kevin_U2> 呵呵 20:43 <+hers> 怎么去，我在深圳的 20:47 <+hellwolf> 视频直播 20:51 -!- pdioo [n=walt@58.35.70.239] has joined #fedora-cn 20:51 hi,all 20:52 < Kevin_U2> 20 等到9点没开会 20:56 < Kevin_U2> 我要去吃饭了 20:56 < Kevin_U2> 明天 带光盘过去 ～ 20:57 < Kevin_U2> 先走了 20:57 -!- Kevin_U2 [n=chatzill@125.33.144.26]  has quit ["Bye bye!"] 21:02 我也自己刻录，作封面，快递了5份F8光盘（有国外的） 21:02 livecd 21:17 <+hers> 还没到十点 21:17 <+hellwolf> F8 Everthying 10G+ 21:18 <+hellwolf> 花了我三天 21:18 <+hellwolf> hers, 用 adobe-reader 了否？ 21:18 <+hellwolf> hers, 用 adobe-reader 8了否？ 21:41 -!- eagerclouds [n=Aaron@123.112.23.212]  has joined #fedora-cn 21:41 Hi, 21:41 good night to you all 21:42 I am Li from BJ 21:42 -!- e2002 [n=chatzill@116.24.35.137]  has joined #fedora-cn 21:43 Are kevin and Yijun here ? 21:44 <+hellwolf> eagerclouds, hi, Yijun -> hers, kevin seems not around 21:44 <+hellwolf> hers, 出来 21:45 <+hers> hi, eagerclouds 21:46 <+hers> I thought your id is aaconras or somthing like this? :) 21:46 hi, all 21:46 <+hers> eagerclouds~ kevin has left but he has got the CDs and DVDs. 21:46 OK, I just got some problems about the schedule tomorrow. 21:47 I have a important business date tomorrow morning, and I am not sure when it will be finished. 21:48 Another problem is that there is not enough time for me to prepare the presentation. 21:48 I came back 10 minutes ago. 21:48 from my office 21:49 <+hers> so busy, hehe 21:49 it is too bad. 21:49 <+hers> eagerclouds~ don't worry, but please be prepared 21:49 I have no choice since in this winter. And my companies always have a lot of business during winter. 21:50 Yes, I will prepare. But who will go? Only kevin? 21:50 <+hers> anyway we need a entire afternoon, maybe longer if we want to play nice 21:50 <+hers> yes, Kevin, and another redhat guy. 21:50 [Users #fedora-cn] 21:50 [@ChanServ   ]  [+ricky     ]  [ christina_chen]  [ nihui  ]  [ ssflying] 21:50 [+cwelton    ]  [ abner     ]  [ DawnFantasy   ]  [ pdioo  ]  [ wanglin ] 21:50 [+gregdek_gone] [ alex_wing ]  [ e2002         ]  [ r0bertz]  [ yafeng  ] 21:50 [+hellwolf   ]  [ cafeblue  ]  [ eagerclouds   ]  [ rainy  ]  [ Yuxans  ] 21:50 [+hers       ]  [ candyz0416]  [ Epocher       ]  [ Shely  ] 21:50 -!- Irssi: #fedora-cn: Total of 24 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 5 voices, 18 normal] 21:50 -!- liuhongdan [n=chatzill@58.30.85.181] has joined #fedora-cn 21:50 <+hers> liuhongdan~ hehe 21:51 <+hers> liuhongdan~ do you have time tomorrow afternoon? 21:51 -!- mode/#fedora-cn [+v liuhongdan] by ChanServ 21:51 <+liuhongdan> hers, sorry 21:51 Oh, good news. So liuhongdan from Redhat will go? 21:51 <+liuhongdan> hers,加班 21:51 <+hers> eagerclouds~ 不是，是余洋 21:51 <+hers> eagerclouds~ 中文，can you read it? 21:52 <+liuhongdan> 最近一直很忙....实在是没办法 21:52 ha, I misunderstand about this. Chinese is OK 21:52 <+liuhongdan> 连周日都搭上了 21:52 <+hers> liuhongdan~ 偷懒啊，逃一个下午 :D 21:52 I can read it without any problem. But I choose to input English, for it's easier to use. 21:53 <+hers> eagerclouds~ 那说说你的安排？讲稿提纲 first. :) 21:53 <+liuhongdan> hers，如果真要去的话，我会和经理说明情况的，逃这个词可不好啊 21:53 <+hers> :D 要是我，我就逃跑.. 21:54 <+liuhongdan> hers,那儿有具体的安排说明？ 21:54 OK, I will give the list about the contents in presentation: 21:54 <+liuhongdan> hers,我先看看 21:54 <+hers> liuhongdan~ read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/zh_CN/Meetings/2007-11-23 for now 21:55 <+hers> liuhongdan~ which is the IRC log this morning, when we discussed a lot of things 21:55 1> short introduction about fedora, including relationship between fedora.org and red hat. 21:55 2> The spins of fedora 21:55 3> how to install fedora, including installation from DVD or iso images located in hard disk. 21:56 <+liuhongdan> hers，好的. 不过你们环境倒是很松啊. 我工作时间，从来不敢用irc,im之类. 21:56 I think these 3 points are enough for tomorrow. 21:56 <+hers> eagerclouds~ n> install and remove software, from ISO (use yum local repo) 21:56 -!- pdioo [n=walt@58.35.70.239] has quit ["Leaving."] 21:57 <+hers> eagerclouds~ sure, if they can listen, remember and understand 21:57 <+hers> liuhongdan~ 实际上，我今天没怎么干活儿 21:57 If we want to talk about the usage about Yum, that's out of the boundary. And I do believe this will be given by other release, while we are the last. 21:58 <+hers> 30min 21:58 <+hers> o 21:58 <+hers> I don't know that 21:58 <+hers> well fedora is relatively easy 21:58 <+liuhongdan> hers，我可是被盯得紧. 我先看看 21:58 Yes, I got the information: we are the last one. And they are not sure about our availablilty. 21:59 -!- tiny_bird [n=chatzill@222.131.210.156] has joined #fedora-cn 21:59 < tiny_bird> linux里有没有可以搜索听歌的软件？ 21:59 <+hers> eagerclouds~ too bad. 21:59 <+hers> tiny_bird~ rhythmbox 22:00 ? what's too bad? 22:00 <+hers> tiny_bird~ go to the first 2 lists, or use last.fm or other fm radio stations 22:00 <+hers> eagerclouds~ I mean, we don't even have a chance to speech 22:01 <+hers> eagerclouds~ fedora stands for infinite freedom of speech, and they oppose our freedom :( 22:02 <+hers> eagerclouds~ how many people in BLUG do you know? 22:02 -!- O_Q [n=yengghi@202.38.237.91] has joined #fedora-cn 22:03 No, we have a chance, but the problem is that who will give the speech. I was the first choice giving this speech, but it depends whether I can come back on time. The organizer give time during 16:10 to 16:40 for fedora. 22:04 Sorry, I know none. Pardon, what's BLUG? Its full name is? 22:04 <+hers> Beijing LUG 22:04 <+hers> Beijing Local User Group 22:06 <+hers> eagerclouds~ you know their phone right? 22:06 No, I do not know them. I only contact with several Linux groups in the institute and University. 22:06 <+hers> I thought BLUG connects well with user groups in University 22:07 -!- wanglin [n=wanglin@121.19.6.94]  has quit ["暂离"] 22:07 Yes, maybe. I think I need to know more about these groups. 22:08 -!- e2002 [n=chatzill@116.24.35.137] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/0000000000] " 22:08 <+hers> eagerclouds~ anyway, if you cannot come on time (better late than nothing), ask either Kevin or the other one that you have the phone number, to find Mr. Hou. 22:08 <+hers> eagerclouds~ notify them, then let Mr. Hou and Mr. Yu to give the presentation. 22:08 OK, I will check this. 22:09 And I hope it will not be too late. 22:09 -!- nihui [n=nihui@58.34.93.91] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:10 <+hers> eagerclouds~ but remember they are not fedora contributors like you and me 22:12 No, they are not. 22:13 I know this very clearly. And we have no choice. 22:13 <+hers> hellwolf~ what do you think? anything to tell Mr. Li? 22:13 If possible, I'd like to have the news much more earlier. And then, maybe I can have a better time shcedule 22:15 <+hers> hehe again, better late than nothing. Thanks to Mr. Hou ;) 22:16 I hope I can go. 22:16 <+hers> eagerclouds~ 可以介绍一下 fedora-cn 的情况吗，大致的几个链接 22:16 -!- r0bertz|work [i=zhangle@gentoo/developer/r0bertz] has joined #fedora-cn 22:17  * hers 想在有限的演讲时间里插播小广告 22:17 yes, it's a good idea. 22:19 OK. I will prepare the presentation files for this. 22:22 <+hers> 还有什么要想的没？ 22:22 <+hers> 早晨想了很多，现在面对面反而没话 22:23 [Users #fedora-cn] 22:23 [@ChanServ    ]  [+ricky         ]  [ eagerclouds ]  [ Shely    ] 22:23 [+cwelton     ]  [ abner         ]  [ Epocher     ]  [ ssflying ] 22:23 [+gregdek_gone]  [ cafeblue      ]  [ O_Q         ]  [ tiny_bird] 22:23 [+hellwolf    ]  [ candyz0416    ]  [ r0bertz     ]  [ yafeng   ] 22:23 [+hers        ]  [ christina_chen]  [ r0bertz|work]  [ Yuxans   ] 22:23 [+liuhongdan  ]  [ DawnFantasy   ]  [ rainy       ] 22:23 -!- Irssi: #fedora-cn: Total of 23 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 6 voices, 16 normal] 22:23 <+liuhongdan> hers,情况太不明确了. 多大地方，多少人参加，多少机器，需要多少人手，广告什么时候打的？ 22:23 Just give the necessary information, and tell others where they can get more. 22:25 <+liuhongdan> hers，什么人，什么演讲，然后干什么，打算几个小时 ，想达到什么效果.... 22:27 I check this with the organizer. 22:28 我刚才给孙廉涛打了电话，问题不太一样 22:28 <+hers> nice. 怎么说？ 22:29 场地是一个大概可以容纳200人左右的教室，没有计算机. 必须由我们自己携带已经安装好的笔记本，现场演示Fedora中比较吸引人的特性. 22:29 <+liuhongdan> 这样不大好啊 22:29 30分钟的演讲，之后还可以有40分钟的演示 22:29 什么不太好阿，简直太糟糕了 22:30 <+hers> 那么安装呢，岂不是完全没有 Install Fest 的意思？ 22:30 <+liuhongdan> 确实. 我以前举办这样的活动时，都是申请机房的啊 22:30 哈哈，没有 22:30 <+liuhongdan> 让他们动手才能体会啊 22:30 <+hers> 早知道就不参加了.. 这种名不副实的东西 22:30 说是，如果有同学带着笔记本，可以现场给他安装. 这个是假设条件 22:31 <+liuhongdan> 怎么可能阿 22:31 也就是说发生的可能性不是很大 22:31 <+liuhongdan> 本本里面都是工作的东西 22:31 <+liuhongdan> 用可以，不能重装啊 22:32 ：（，我已经改行从良，不用笔记本了 22:32 <+liuhongdan> 还刻录了那么多的光盘，完事后免费赠送用的？ 22:32 right，他们的意思就是这样 22:32 <+liuhongdan> 不好 22:32 <+hers> 不给 22:33 <+liuhongdan> 他们回去了，没人帮，他们玩玩就丢了 22:33 <+liuhongdan> 想学的除外 22:33 <+liuhongdan> 30分钟演讲，40分钟演示，不到一个小时...... 22:34 呵呵，非常可能就是这样 22:34 <+liuhongdan> 要是有机器，就好办多了 22:34 <+liuhongdan> 整个半天不成问题 22:34 不过，从我个人的角度来说，演讲是可以. 但是，找了这么多发行版同时开工，就没有意思了 22:35 说白了，大家是差不多同质竞争. 22:35 <+liuhongdan> 演讲，效果不大，和平时大家听讲座一样，没有什么本质影响 22:36 <+liuhongdan> 你有什么好的地方，吸引别人参加你的活动，来了会一直很有兴趣的一直到结束？ 22:36 在目前的情况下，还是技术支持比较有用. 22:36 <+hers> 以前就是这样，拿到光盘，有多少人会拿到光盘后利用它，很少. 然而，这个比例在参加讲座的人中已经很高了，毕竟是有兴趣才来听讲座的. 22:36 而且，我估计周六参加的人也不会很多. 有，也是很多专业的，更想知道开发之类的东西. 22:37 应该是计算机专业的会多点，如果有料的话. 22:37 不过演讲的主题会更便而已. 22:37 <+liuhongdan> 广告了吗？ 22:38 什么广告了？ 22:38 <+liuhongdan> 在学校，bbs之类 22:38 <+liuhongdan> 广告栏 22:38 有 22:38 <+liuhongdan> 提前几天？ 22:38 你没有收到他们发来的计划书？ 22:38 <+liuhongdan> 我没有，我下午刚知道的. 22:39 我是昨天夜里11点半才看到的，：（ 22:39 我传一份给你 22:40 <+hers> 我也早不到哪儿去. . 幸好在 IRC 能收到消息 22:40 <+liuhongdan> 好，email？ 22:40 <+hers> eagerclouds~ 也给我一份 22:40 就这里传文件了，稍等一下 22:41 <+liuhongdan> 听起来就是一个校内活动，怎么你们都这么大的动作？ 22:41 * hers for me, the first time. 22:42 <+liuhongdan> .... 22:42 嘿，没有办法，Yijun人比较好 22:42 这以前，我就给几个人做过presentation，最多的时候就二十来个人. 22:43 <+liuhongdan> 要是演示的话，那儿能上网么？ 22:43 < tiny_bird> fedora 8 安装 oracle 难不难？ 22:43 可以上网，提供了网线 22:43 <+liuhongdan> 估计要准备聊天工具了 22:44 tiny_bird～安装不难，难在配置让他能够完美工作. 22:45 如果你想使用oracle数据库，推荐你还是使用RHEL更好一点 22:45 < tiny_bird> f8能装哪个版本号的oracle ?9i or 10g? 22:45 < tiny_bird> eagerclouds: 为啥？ 22:45 < tiny_bird> rhel 的哪个版本？ 22:45 <+liuhongdan> 以前在linuxfans时候，会常常举办这样的活动，每个学校都会有人相互联系 22:46 是阿，不过这个看来气势不够大阿 22:46 你们怎么不接受文件？ 22:46 <+liuhongdan> 没显示 22:48 你刚才要给我传文件？ 22:48 <+liuhongdan> 我只是看看这个是不是可以用 22:48 <+liuhongdan> aaa.txt，能接受？ 22:48 可以 22:48 不过我取消了 22:48 还是看不见？算了，我发邮件给你们好了 22:49 你的邮箱？ 22:49 <+liuhongdan> hongdanliu ##  gmail.com 22:49 tiny_bird～看到新开的对话？ 22:51 <+liuhongdan> 收到了 22:51 我已经把邮件转发给你们了 22:53 看完了下决定好了 22:53 < tiny_bird> eagerclouds: 没有 22:53 <+liuhongdan> 恩. 我先看看再答复你把 22:54 使用oracle数据库，推荐使用RHEL 的原因是他们经过了兼容性测试，并且一般都基于特定的硬件平台优化过. 22:54 尤其是一些服务器捆绑了RHEL，使用起来更稳定 22:54 < tiny_bird> rhel对哪个版本号的oracle支持较好？ 22:54 如果不是企业使用，个人学习就无所谓了. 22:54 最新版的oracle都可以支持. 22:55 9和10都能用 22:55 < tiny_bird> rhel 4也支持最新的 oracle ? 22:56 yes 22:56 <+hers> eagerclouds~ 明天 lucky lucky 多吸引一些有本事的人到 fedora 来！ 22:56 至少9和10应该度没有问题 22:56 哈哈，但愿吧 22:57 Yuan Yijun~但愿吧， 22:57 上帝保佑，最好你看完邮件后决定怎么办？ 22:58 < tiny_bird> 你们在要大学演讲？ 22:59 正在计划 23:00 -!- r0bertz|work [i=zhangle@gentoo/developer/r0bertz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:00 <+hers> eagerclouds~ 看了那个，觉得就按你的想法来讲就很好. 有一点忘了说，bluedj 是 ftp.fedora.cn 的空间赞助人，一定要谢谢他们 23:00 <+liuhongdan> 我在知春路，怎么去？ 23:01 <+hers> eagerclouds~ 就你的提纲就完全 OK 了. 也许给听讲的人发一些白纸和笔，让他们做笔记会比较好？ :) 23:01 <+liuhongdan> 过去打杂，应该还凑合，解决问题，要更多的牛 23:01 <+liuhongdan> 好几个版本，一个半小时，是人都会晕 23:02 呵呵，今天发行，Yijun还是理想主义者 23:02 哈哈 23:03 * hers 我有一个，伟大的理想，哈哈哈哈 23:03 <+liuhongdan> 北邮内部的，搞这个学生老师，应该不少吧 23:03 地址在文件里有阿？我把邮件转发给你. 然后演示文稿pdf你也带着，万一我赶不过去，你照着读一遍？ 23:03 <+liuhongdan> 搞这个的学生老师 23:03 怎么样，hongdan？ 23:04 <+liuhongdan> 我上午在公司，中午才能赶过去，不知道能不能及时到. 23:04 <+liuhongdan> 发给我看看吧 23:04 OK 23:04 <+hers> 在座的还有人在北京吗？ 23:05 等我弄完，晚上回来后就忙到现在 23:05 对了，Yijun,kevin的邮箱我这有么？ 23:05 再给我一次 23:05 <+hers> Epocher~ O_Q~ rainy~ tiny_bird~ ssflying~ yafeng~ Yuxans~ 你们有在北京的吗？ 23:05 < tiny_bird> 有 23:05 <+hers> eagerclouds~ kevin_u2@hotmail.com 23:05 OK 23:05 <+hers> and you have his phone right? 23:05 -_-!! 湖北 23:05 -!- christina_chen [n=chris@220.234.74.176]  has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:05 < tiny_bird> 我在北京 23:05 yes I have his phone 23:06 <+liuhongdan> 这个消息，知道的太晚，联系不起来. 不知道他们在校内组织的怎么样啊 23:06 <+liuhongdan> hers在那儿，现在？ 23:06 <+hers> 深圳 23:06 <+hers> tiny_bird~ 你要 party 的详细地址不？ 23:06 < tiny_bird> 我对LINUX也不懂啊 23:07 <+liuhongdan> 有一点不明白，为什么我们要去啊？ 23:07 <+hers> 去看小美女. 23:07 <+liuhongdan> 哦 23:07 <+liuhongdan> 这个理由很充分 23:07 哈哈，Yijun大大的坏了阿 23:07 <+hers> liuhongdan~ 这不是和 fedora 有关的活动吗，正好发现有 fedora ambassador 在那里 :D 23:07 < tiny_bird> 哎，都结婚了，对女人没兴趣了，天天上下班在地铁里挤美女 23:08 <+hers> tiny_bird~ 咸湿老头 23:08 <+liuhongdan> 哎，没女朋友，对女人很有兴趣，天天上下班在城铁里被女人挤 23:08 哈哈，老前辈阿，都结婚了 23:09 靠，俺是明年 23:09 <+liuhongdan> fedora ambassador什么来头？ 23:09 < tiny_bird> 呵呵，前辈不敢，就是LINUX懂得少 23:10 <+liuhongdan> redhat的？ 23:10 谁是RedHat的？ 23:11 <+liuhongdan> 我只是问问 23:12 哦 23:12 <+liuhongdan> 不会是讲英语吧？ 23:13 <+liuhongdan> 不知道明天有多少样机？ 23:14 中文，样机的没有. 23:14 需要我们自己带着笔记本演示Fedora的特性，就像王婆一样，自卖自夸 23:15 <+liuhongdan> 我的意思就是有多少人带笔记本过去 23:16 <+liuhongdan> 我的有beryl 23:16 小于10，而且这10还是各个组织 23:17 <+liuhongdan> 组织上去多少人啊？ 23:17 <+liuhongdan> 我们的组织里去多少人？ 23:17 2个或者3个，我明天不知道能不能赶到 23:18 所以要让你带着pdf，到时候先救场阿 23:18 <+liuhongdan> 你演讲fedora的部分？ 23:18 从原理说，应该是吧 23:18 <+liuhongdan> 哪个 pdf? 23:18 我正在写，一会给你 23:19 <+liuhongdan> 不会迟到吧，fedora的是16.00才开始啊 23:19 <+liuhongdan> 怎么也来得及啊 23:20 我明天公司派我去国贸那边 23:21 下午时候不知道能不能赶到 23:22 <+liuhongdan> 貌似知春路和北邮很近，3公里左右的样子 23:23 是很近，骑车15分钟吧 23:24 -!- yichi [n=yichi@123.116.103.44] has joined #fedora-cn 23:24 -!- mode/#fedora-cn [+v yichi] by ChanServ 23:25 我走了阿，回头再聊. 23:25 记得查收邮件 23:26 <+liuhongdan> 好 23:26 晚安 23:26 8 23:26 -!- eagerclouds [n=Aaron@123.112.23.212] has left #fedora-cn [] 23:26 <+liuhongdan> 8 23:30 <+liuhongdan> 投影仪的分辨率是不是要和电脑的分辨率一样才能播放？ 23:32 <+liuhongdan> hers,eagerclouds代表fedora社区啊？ 23:33 <+liuhongdan> hers,5个社区分别围绕各发行版的特性、新功能和新技术进行主题演讲,介绍并吸引同学们参加社区项目，这两个似乎有难度:(，连自己都没有参加社区项目 --- Log closed 六 11月 24 00:00:26 2007

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16:03 <+hers> 貌似到时间了 16:03 <+hers> 四点，到四点半 16:09 到四点半有事么？ 16:12 <+hers> 北邮某个聚会

16:42 -!- freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.98.201] has joined #fedora-cn 16:45 <+hers> 奇怪，不是说聚会是有网络的么 16:45 <+hers> freeflying~ 怎么样？:)

16:52 hers: 还行，我感冒头疼先回了 16:53 <+hellwolf> ... 16:53 hers: 余洋即时感到 16:59 <+hers> freeflying~ 真是都够忙的 17:04 Funda wang在演讲时公开指责ubuntu 17:05 <+hellwolf> :D 17:05 ubuntu和fedora有啥不同？ 17:05 <+hellwolf> 听上去突然好玩了点 17:05 引起台下一片哄笑 17:05 -!- gcell [n=xelnaga@220.169.91.18] has joined #fedora-cn 17:05 -!- mode/#fedora-cn [+v gcell] by ChanServ 17:05 没玩过ubuntu 17:07 <+hers> 那 fedora 的讲得好不？ 17:07 fedora在最后，我没听了 17:07 你咋不听呢. . . 17:09 <+hers> 人很多吧 17:09 感冒头疼先撤了 17:09 一般化 17:09 <+hers> 估计你传染了不少人感冒 17:10 <+hellwolf> 谁感染谁？ 17:10 又不是SARS没那么厉害吧. 17:11 为啥你们的名字前是白点？ 17:23 <+hellwolf> 因为我们是星星战队

18:49 -!- Kevin_U2 [n=chatzill@219.142.139.35] has joined #fedora-cn 18:51 < Kevin_U2> 今天去了 还不错 18:52 < Kevin_U2> 北邮 好多人 18:53 < Kevin_U2> 我的任务完成了 18:53 -!- Kevin_U2 [n=chatzill@219.142.139.35] has quit [Client Quit]