Meeting:Board meeting 2008-03-11

= Fedora Project Board Meeting :: Tuesday 2008-03-11 =

Roll Call
Attendees: Bill Nottingham, Steve Dickson, Paul Frields, Seth Vidal, Jef Spaleta, John Poelstra, Chris Aillon, Karsten Wade

Regrets: Dennis Gilmore, Matt Domsch, Bob McWirther

Post-release updates of custom spins (2008-01-29)
1. Solidify rest of the policy this week 1. Board to vote on proposal at next meeting
 * Should the board have to approve them?
 * We will hosts as many spins as we have space for
 * Need to determine the hosting requirements and limits
 * How long will spins stay around?
 * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram/SpinsProcess
 * ACTION: Jef to review Rahul's proposal and report back to board
 * OWNER: Jef Spaleta
 * FOLLOWUP on 2008-02-12
 * Jef is waiting for feedback from Jeremy Katz on release engineering's perspective
 * Reference: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/Meetings/2008-feb-11
 * People are still not clear on exactly what is required to create an official "Fedora Spin"
 * Need a clear list of guidelines of what a spin owner is responsible for and what they are required to test
 * Hoping a test will come from Jeremy Katz as part of feedback from release engineering
 * We are only talking about spins that use GA packages, thus testing for GA should have given us enough comfort that risk is minimized
 * We only need to be concerned with new combination of packages that a spin would present
 * ACTIONS & OWNERS:
 * Paul Frields--followup with Fedora Release Engineering and QA contingent to discuss testing requirements
 * Jef Spaleta to formulate specific guidelines for review prior to or at next board meeting (dependent on feedback from release engineering)
 * FOLLOWUP on 2008-02-19
 * Crux of issue right now is figuring out exactly what input release engineering is supposed to be giving
 * Jef will have a writeup to the board by next meeting
 * Paul will be at the Red Hat office in Westford, MA next week and can sit down and work out any of the remaining details with Jeremy, Jesse, Will, etc.
 * FOLLOWUP on 2008-02-26
 * releng has created http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JeremyKatz/SpinChecklist
 * Jef has input from Rahul and plans to start writing a draft
 * FOLLOWUP on 2008-03-04
 * Jef posting proposal to fedora-advisory-board-list: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-March/msg00004.html
 * FOLLOWUP on 2008-03-11
 * Jef posting updated proposal to fedora-advisory-board-list today and ongoing discussion will continue on fedora-advisory-board-list:
 * https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-March/msg00074.html
 * GOALS:

Google Start Page (2008-02-19)
1. Generic click-through agreement--http://www.google.com/coop/cse/ 1. Customized arrangement 1. Do nothing 1. Greg to find out what needs to be done on the google side to move things along 1. Max to explore financial aspects of receiving funds and allocating them to Fedora
 * Project has changed ownership within Red Hat to Greg Dekoenigsberg
 * No final decision has been made since idea was first proposed
 * Go forward possibilities:
 * very limited overhead
 * fedora branded start search page
 * use existing Fedora start page--just sign it up with Google
 * no exclusivity commitment
 * no commitment to continue relationship
 * http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/partners/index.html
 * http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/google-apps-partner-edition.html
 * long term commitment
 * exclusivity commitment
 * Revenue could be used to finance Fedora's operations
 * DECISION: explore option #1 and see what kind of numbers Fedora is generating
 * OWNERS: Max and Greg
 * ACTIONS:
 * RESOLVED on 2008-03-11
 * Update from Greg DeKoenigsberg that a mutually beneficial relationship cannot be established
 * https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-March/msg00071.html

Codeina (2008-02-26)
1. Review email thread: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-November/msg00050.html 1. Move discussion to fedora-advisory-board list to formulate a solution there 1. Propose patching out other for sale non-free plugins 1. Bill Nottingham to make sure that live spin includes codeina correctly 1. Three members absent 1. One abstention
 * Still not comfortable that we are pointing people to content that is not "Free and Open Source software"
 * Cannot suitably fix codeina in the Fedora 9 time frame
 * ACTIONS:
 * FOLLOWUP on 2008-03-11
 * Majority board vote in favor of patching out all other for sale non-free plugins leaving the freely available mp3 codec
 * Paul to check with codeina maintainer (Bastien Nocera) and Fluendo (Thomas Vander Stichele)
 * Paul to send followup to fedora-advisory-board-list

Public IRC Meeting

 * Thoughts how meeting went
 * Next time limit board discussion in the public channel and maintain focus in main channel
 * Next public meeting will be on IRC on Tuesday 2008-04-01
 * ACTIONS:
 * Paul to check with Infrastructure for status of audio ability
 * Steve to send mail to f-a-b seeking feedback from community
 * https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-March/msg00088.html

Legal Update
1. GPG keys are not required for people to sign the CLA for CVS access 1. Click-through CLA is sufficient to get wiki commit access 1. Anonymous commits to the wiki are not permissible (unchanged from the past).
 * Tom "Spot" Callaway and Paul Frields met with Legal to discuss outstanding questions
 * Making good progress on different questions from the past
 * Changes to existing policies:
 * Providing a timestamped file in ISO images that refers to a URL where the source offer appears does not enable us to distribute under GPLv2 section 3(b).
 * ACTIONS:
 * Matt to announce this part since he has done most of the work on the GPL items:
 * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Distribution
 * Paul to post Ambassador guidance to meet requirements for GPLv2 section 3(a), as circulated on fedora-board-list

Next Meeting

 * Date: 2008-03-18
 * Time: 14:00 EDT