QA/Meetings/20100510

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):


 * jlaska (115)
 * adamw (99)
 * Oxf13 (61)
 * kparal (44)
 * Viking-Ice (13)
 * zodbot (4)
 * robatino (3)
 * mether (2)
 * etank (1)

Regrets:
 * liam
 * rhe
 * wwoods
 * maxamillion

= Agenda =
 * Proposed meeting agenda
 * MeetBot summary

Previous meeting follow-up

 * 1) jlaska to migrate approved FAS 'qa' members into 'proventesters'
 * Completed, all approved qa group members are now members of proventesters
 * 1) jlaska to request bodhi change to require 'proventesters' feedback for critpath
 * Completed, (see https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424). Change has been completed by lmacken, but not yet deployed

Fedora 13 RC#2 test status
Upcoming test milestones:


 * 2010-05-05 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #4 -- MISSED
 * 2010-05-06 - Test 'Final' RC
 * 2010-05-11 - Fedora 13 Final Go/No-Go Meeting (20:00 EST)
 * 2010-05-12 - Fedora 13 Final Release Readiness Meeting

The group spent time reviewing the current F13Blocker bug list. At the time of the meeting, the following bugs were open for discussion ...

- Lid "button" has no keycode

 * confusion as to the exact cause for this bug
 * AGREED - QA agreed that 590466 does not impact the release criteria and can be resolved in a future update

- SystemError: (22, 'Invalid argument')

 * fails when testing with RHT Brno Fedora NFS mirror, but works when installing from local nfs exported DVD mount
 * unclear user impact, kparal will discuss further w/ clumens for insight
 * AGREED - unclear on impact to release criteria, leave on the list pending additional information
 * UPDATE - failure case is booting with a and providing boot arguments:

- GRUB bootloader should have a few seconds delay on a multi-boot setup

 * debatable whether this impacts the release criteria
 * current dual-boot criteria states -- "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an existing clean single-partition Windows installation and either install a bootloader which can boot into the Windows installation, or leave the Windows bootloader untouched and working "
 * HELP: Confirm multi-OS bootloader configuration when installing F12
 * bcl, jkeating and jlaska confirmed the change in behavior after the meeting
 * ACTION: identify if any bootloader config documentation exists
 * Fedora 10 feature page (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterStartup) documents change in grub boot menu
 * AGREED: 590661 - remains on the list, pending additional information to be presented @ go/no_go
 * Submitted for FESCO review (see https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/377)

- [abrt] crash in gnome-bluetooth-2.30.0-1.fc13: raise: Process /usr/bin/bluetooth-wizard was killed by signal 6 (SIGABRT)

 * AGREED - 590666 isn't blockery enough, we can document + fix with an update

??? - missing firmware packages on live images

 * Jkeating received reports about missing *-firmware packages on live images
 * The team was able to confirm expected *-firmware packages were available on live images.

Summer of Code

 * Kparal notified the group that a wiki page full of Summer of code project ideas is available --
 * Currently looking for feedback from anyone who has participated in summer of code as a student or mentor (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Summer_of_Code_Ideas)
 * Feedback needed by Wednesday, May 13, 2010.

Reporting on upstream project activity

 * Viking_Ice asked if there was any interest in reporting on upstream project activity. He noted that it would be nice to inform users whether a project is actively maintained, before they file or triage any incoming bugs for that package.  General consensus was that this would be an interesting project, but there concerns were expressed about how to consistently measure "upstream activity" across projects.
 * Viking_Ice will wait until Fedora 13 testing calmed down, and follow-up to the list for feedback.

= Upcoming QA events =


 * 2010-01-21 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
 * 2010-01-28 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
 * 2010-02-04 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
 * 2010-02-04 - NFSv4 Test Day
 * 2010-02-05 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #1 (recap)
 * 2010-02-11 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' (boot media testing)
 * 2010-02-12 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #2 (recap)
 * 2010-02-12 - Alpha Test Candidate verification (announcement)
 * 2010-02-18 - Alpha Release Candidate verification
 * 2010-02-18 - Color Management test day
 * 2010-02-19 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #3 (recap)
 * 2010-02-24 - Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting (20:00 EST)
 * 2010-02-25 - Yum Langpack plugin test day
 * 2010-03-10 - Pre-Beta Acceptance Test Plan #1
 * 2010-03-12 - Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #1 (recap)
 * 2010-03-18 - Gnome Disk Utility Storage Test Day
 * 2010-03-18 - Test Beta 'Test Compose' DELAYED
 * 2010-03-19 - Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #2 (recap)
 * 2010-03-25 - Test Beta Candidate
 * 2010-03-25 - Printing Test Day
 * 2010-03-26 - Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #3
 * 2010-03-30 - SSSD by default Test Day
 * 2010-03-31 - Beta Go/No-Go Meeting (20:00 EST)
 * 2010-04-01 - ABRT Test Day
 * 2010-04-08 - Virtualization Test Day
 * 2010-04-13 - Test_Day:2010-04-13_Nouveau
 * 2010-04-14 - Test_Day:2010-04-14_Radeon
 * 2010-04-15 - Test_Day:2010-04-15_Intel
 * 2010-04-16 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #1 (recap)
 * 2010-04-16 - Pre-RC Branched Acceptance Test Plan - DELAYED (see )
 * 2010-04-22 - Test_Day:2010-04-22_StorageFiltering
 * 2010-04-23 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #2 (recap)
 * 2010-04-29 - Test_Day:2010-04-29_Preupgrade
 * 2010-04-29 - Test 'Final' Test Compose
 * 2010-04-30 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #3 (recap)
 *  WE ARE HERE 
 * 2010-05-05 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #4
 * 2010-05-06 - Test 'Final' RC

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