Infrastructure/Meetings/2007-03-01

= Meeting of 2007-03-01 =


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15:00 Alllrighty, Who's ready for a meeting? 15:00 I'm here. 15:00 -!- paulobanon [i=Hex@86.72.97.52] has joined #fedora-admin 15:00 < BobJensen> mmcgrath: our Unity Build mirror 15:01 role call 15:01 roll, even 15:01 both of them 15:01 ping 15:01 :D 15:01 right on time 15:01 * lmacken is here to drop a quick update and then head to a final 15:01 solid 15:01 f13: ping 15:01 dgilmore: ping 15:01 mikem23: ping 15:02 * daMaestro here 15:02 koji? 15:03 Ok, so AFAIK we're just going to use the storage we have. 15:03 which is ? 15:04 local storage on individual boxes. 15:04 cant we ebay something :P 15:04 We have one semi-large storage place, but storage is temporary until April. we'll have more then. 15:04 dgilmore's got some stuff in mind for cert based auth. 15:04 :) great 15:04 AFAIK thats our major blocker right now. 15:04 So we'll move on to the package database. 15:05 abadger1999: whats the word? 15:05 there's been some discussion about AWOL/orphan policy that resulted from last week's meeting. 15:05 mhmm 15:05 At the moment, I think it's not going to change what's currently there. 15:06 mmcgrath: pong 15:06 abadger1999: So whats your thoughts on when this can/should go live? 15:06 * mmcgrath waves at dgilmore 15:06 I'm here, in another meeting too. 15:07 The list from last week of stuff doesn't look too heard.  Maybe two weeks to be testable. 15:08 but there's also importing the new owners.list/owners.epel/acls. 15:08 I was hopign to get someone in Extras or notting interested in doing that but so far no takers. 15:08 -!- rordway|m [n=rordway|@128-193-136-26.public.oregonstate.edu]  has joined #fedora-admin 15:08 abadger1999: Its converting a text file into the db? 15:09 Yes. And most of the work is done. 15:09 But there have been changes since I wrote the original improter so it needs to be updated. 15:09 < rordway|m> anyone know of a good OS X IRC client? 15:09 AndI haven't looked at pulling acls at all. 15:10 rordway|m: fedora ppc 15:10 notting says he wrote the acl stuff in a modular fashion but I haven't looked. 15:10 rordway|m: oh, wait, sorry ;) 15:10 k 15:10 < rordway|m> it's a Macbook Pro, Fedora/i386 works just fine 15:10 abadger1999: Try pinging the infrastructure list. You might have some takers. 15:10 k. 15:10 rordway|m: irssi. 15:11 rordway|m: or ssh to a shell with irssi 15:11 guys... 15:11 yes? 15:11 < rordway|m> mmcgrath: sorry :-) 15:11 < daMaestro> what? are we like having a meeting or something? 15:11 no problem 15:11 :D 15:11 < daMaestro> >;) 15:12 Ok, next up. 15:12 VCS choice. 15:13 still on hold AFAIK. the sig has floundered a bit. 15:13 lmacken: still around? 15:13 yup yup 15:13 Ok, quickstyle update (cause I've gotta book in a sec). 15:13 Firewall stuff: Mike and I talked at FUDCon about this; I said that I could deploy pyroman tonight if we wanted, but I don't think it curr ently achieves our goals.  So what are our goals?  Well, I have a few in mind (ease of {configuration,deployment,sustainment}), and pyroman only takes care of the first.  I have been looking into other viable solutions recently, and plan on trying to get this ball rolling next week.  I'll send more details to the 15:13 Updates: haven't touched bodhi in over a week, due to school.  John Polestra layed out some great flowcharts which are helping solidify some of the process, 15:13 bodhi will be my top priority next week 15:14 solid 15:14 lmacken: send more details to the "list" ? 15:14 paulobanon: fedora-infra-list 15:14 :) looking forward for it 15:15 Alrighty, next item the wiki upgrade. 15:15 Its.. uhh... upgraded. 15:15 :D pass to Done 15:15 :P 15:15 Still some issues with the theme, none of the website guys seemed to care. 15:15 * lmacken & 15:15 mmcgrath: I'd like to seperate the idea of package SCM from other SCMs withinthe SCM sig 15:15 There's been a few other bugs here and there. 15:15 mmcgrath: point them to WikiMigration 15:16 the SCM sig was sort of created to think up grand ideas around package SCM and how that whole thing workflows. 15:16 f13: agreed. 15:16 lets try to keep everything on a central point 15:16 -!- rordway|m [n=rordway|@128-193-136-26.public.oregonstate.edu]  has left #fedora-admin [] 15:16 f13: +1 15:16 I'm pretty sure at this point that we as a group will be offering SVN, HG and Git 15:16 But what fedora uses for packaging is a whole other thing, and thats what we care about. 15:16 mmcgrath: somebody has to dothe work to make SVN available (: 15:17 I can do that, I'm pretty comfortable with SVN. 15:17 f13: svn deployment? 15:17 -!- warren [n=warren@redhat/wombat/warren] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:17 does hosted not talk to svn right now? 15:17 paulobanon: svn as an available scm for hosted projects. 15:17 paulobanon: Yeah, for hosted. 15:17 does anyone sane even like svn? ;) 15:17 mmcgrath: I don't know of a public svn repo. 15:17 * skvidal runs from mmcgrath 15:17 skvidal: mmcgrath does. 15:17 * mmcgrath think's hes sane 15:17 f13: like I said... 15:17 lol 15:17 * mmcgrath 's image in the mirror does not. 15:18 mmcgrath: but the image is evil 15:18 we'll get back to hosted in a bit. 15:18 lmacken: glad to make updates... let me know if I can help 15:18 i dont mind svn 15:18 so config management. Puppet. has anyone looked at puppet? Does anyone care :-D 15:18 i do care 15:18 I looked at it 15:18 * mmcgrath knows many would prefer to get rid of the ruby dep. 15:18 but no time to look 15:18 I said 'meh' 15:18 but the capability seems fine 15:18 agreed. I think its better than what we have and will suit our needs. 15:19 closed->worksforme 15:19 mmcgrath: gonna try to deploy it in my lab at work, so u'll hear from me in a few days/weeks 15:19 * mmcgrath notes its so foggy in Chicago right now that he can't see the building across the street. 15:19 paulobanon: solid 15:19 I'll give everyone one more week and if I haven't heard anything either way, I'm going to begin deploying it on the other machines. 15:20 Next item: metrics. 15:20 I've been focusing a lot on smolt over the last couple of days. 15:20 Turns out there's a lot of back-end stuff I need to change but its there and coming. 15:20 I did some major upgrades to the web interface. Hurray tabs. 15:20 Next, Postfix. 15:21 This one's touchy but I'm just going to make the call to implement it. If someone inside RH has an issue, I'll deal with it. 15:21 I've been trying to implement better spam protection in OTRS but it seems to be ignoring what I'm telling it to do. 15:21 * mmcgrath just realized something about that. 15:21 Anyway. 15:21 f13: Hosted. 15:22 Whats your thought on how to proceed from here? Just wait till we get the storage? 15:22 mmcgrath: umm 15:22 about postfix 15:22 if we start using the mailserver 15:23 and people rely on it 15:23 and legal says 'pull it, we can't have it up' 15:23 then people will lose important info 15:23 skvidal: They can say that now. 15:23 mmcgrath: yeah, storage, and potentially systems. 15:23 mmcgrath: right but no one relies on it now 15:23 mmcgrath: I owe you a roadmap, I haven't gotten it done yet. 15:23 I suck. 15:23 Ahh, I see your point. 15:23 f13: and you dress your kid up funny, too 15:24 I'll ping again, and be more direct this time. 15:24 Actually wait. 15:24 If they say pull it, then we'll just move everything back to RH where it is now right? 15:25 mmcgrath: why would legal say that ? 15:25 paulobanon: for legal reasons 15:26 paulobanon: Its best not to guess what legal will or won't do. 15:26 mmcgrath: if we make a bunch of mailing lists, for example 15:26 mmcgrath: and then we are told to pull them 15:26 will we be able to get them setup at rH? 15:27 skvidal: I'll fight that battle. 15:27 okay 15:27 that was my only concern, then. 15:27 thanks for listening 15:27 The situation as I understand it is that legal has no idea what is going on with it and don't care. 15:27 I'll send one more email and if I still hear nothing then I'll deal. 15:28 ok, cool 15:28 f13: is this you? 15:28   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - 15:28 Next up, mirrors. 15:28  15:28    (reason: 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown) 15:28 mdomsch: ping 15:29 We'll skip that for now. 15:29 and kim0 isn't here for the delta rpm stuff. 15:29 And with that, I open the floor. Anyone have anything? 15:29 -!- mdehaan [i=mdehaan@nat/redhat/x-53fb47e5afe2f8a6] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:30 Alllrighty, thats all I've got then 15:30 ========== MEETING END ======