QA/Meetings/20110328

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):
 * jlaska (168)
 * kparal (85)
 * adamw (62)
 * Viking-Ice (34)
 * tflink (30)
 * vhumpa (29)
 * nirik (15)
 * zodbot (6)
 * Venemo_N900 (3)
 * jskladan (2)
 * mkrizek (2)
 * Cerlyn (1)
 * robatino (1)
 * jsmith (1)

Unable to attend:
 * 1) Rhe (hopefully sleeping)
 * 2) Hongqing (hopefully sleeping)
 * 3) Twu (hopefully sleeping)

= Agenda =
 * Proposed meeting agenda
 * MeetBot summary

Previous meeting follow-up

 * 1) jlaska - provide updated boot.iso for testing new lorax+anaconda builds so testers can provide karma
 * 2) * Newer anaconda-15.25-1 now available, will post and updated boot.iso for testing - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/anaconda-15.25-1.fc15

Rescheduling GNOME3 test day

 * The test day is scheduled on 7th of April now, which collides with the GNOME3 release again
 * Reschedule for Apr 21st - plenty of time before F-15 final change deadline

Tuesday, March 29 - Beta 'Test Compose'

 * Request: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4533
 * STATUS: AT RISK
 * jlaska has a newer boot.iso available for verifying anaconda-15.25-1 and NM-0.9 - http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/boot.iso

Tuesday, March 29 - Printing Test Day

 * Request: ticket#172 - Test_Day:2011-03-29_Printing
 * STATUS: INPROGRESS
 * ACTION: tflink to handle announcements for Printing test day

Thursday, March 31 - ABRT/Retrace Server Test Day

 * Request: ticket#165 - Test_Day:2011-03-31_ABRT_Retrace_Server
 * STATUS: INPROGRESS
 * No assistance needed creating/editing wiki content
 * Help may be needed to create custom live images if content does not land in nightly live ISO

Friday, April 1 - F-15-Beta Blocker #4

 * Request: task#37
 * STATUS: INPROGRESS
 * http://bit.ly/f15-beta-blocker-proposed
 * http://bit.ly/f15-beta-blocker-accepted

= Open discussion -  =

AutoQA Updates

 * https://kparal.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/autoqa-will-be-providing-comments-for-fedora-updates-really-soon/
 * Bodhi should be fixed now, thanks lmacken for quick response.
 * As for AutoQA, we're working on fine-tuning all those errors and would like to make a bugfix release soon (next week? just a guess).
 * ACTION: tflink will gather a list of stale -pending tags and determine whether autoqa or bodhi bug
 * tflink added new method to our library allowing us to easily download RPMs for a specific build
 * vhumpa committed a patch splitting watcher scripts and event definitions into separate directories (abolishing 'hook' word). That should make the architecture more comprehensible. He's now in the process of adjusting wiki documentation to reflect it.
 * jskladan has provided patches for upgradepath, which was incorrectly reporting results to updates consisting of more than 1 build
 * AutoQA will following a proper versioning scheme from now on. Major number bump for very large changes, minor number bump for standard feature additions and standard-size changes, and revision number bump for bugfix releases.
 * We have even created 'stable' git branch that should always contain the latest stable code (released or about to be released).

NetworkManager-0.9 and libreoffice status check

 * jlaska asked if anyone knew the status of the pending NM-0.9 update - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/pidgin-2.7.11-2.fc15,telepathy-glib-0.14.1-1.fc15,telepathy-logger-0.2.6-1.fc15,libsocialweb-0.25.11-3.fc15,kdebase-runtime-4.6.1-3.fc15,epiphany-2.91.92-2.fc15,evolution-2.91.92-2.fc15,control-center-2.91.92-3.fc15,kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0.44.20110323.fc15,kdebase-workspace-4.6.1-5.fc15,empathy-2.91.92-2.fc15,geoclue-0.12.0-7.fc15,krb5-auth-dialog-2.91.91-3.fc15,gnome-shell-2.91.92-3.fc15,NetworkManager-openvpn-0.8.995-1.fc15,NetworkManager-vpnc-0.8.996-2.fc15,NetworkManager-0.8.997-4.git20110325.fc15,NetworkManager-openswan-0.8.0-9.20100411git.fc15,tracker-0.10.3-3.fc15,NetworkManager-pptp-0.8.995-1.fc15,NetworkManager-openconnect-0.8.1-7.git20110326.fc15,openconnect-3.01-2.fc15,liferea-1.6.5-4.fc15,claws-mail-3.7.8-7.fc15,nntpgrab-0.6.91-4.fc15
 * Appears to be headed for stable, waiting for usual mirror/compose syncing
 * jlaska also asked if what was up with the pending libreoffice update - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreoffice-3.3.2.2-2.fc15
 * has been submitted but not pushed yet
 * Adamw asked if anyone tested other desktops (KDE, LXDE, XFCE)
 * nirik noted that LXDE was working
 * Positive KDE feedback was posted to the bodhi update
 * Adamw planned to run a few tests later in the day on XFCE and others

Handling HTML email to test@lists.fp.org

 * Viking-Ice offered a proposal to update mailman settings to enable convert_html_to_plaintxt to automatically convert HTML emails to plaintext
 * The group agreed with this change
 * Viking-Ice also suggested rejecting HTML messages, with a customized response pointing people to Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
 * The group didn't reach consensus on whether auto-rejecting emails was a good first response for contributors

Pending website change

 * tflink informed the team that A ticket was filed with fedora-websites to add a notice that all pre-release feedback should be directed to #fedora-qa or test@
 * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/

Nightly live ISO URLs

 * Adamw reminded folks that nightly live ISO generation is being done by koji now, so the URLs have changed
 * LINK: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/current.html
 * ACTION: nirik will look into updating the nightly-composes directory to eliminate any 404's

= Action items =
 * 1) vhumpa reach out to reschedule GnomeShell #3 for April 21
 * 2) tflink to handle announcements for Printing test day
 * 3) tflink looking into stale -pending tags and determine whether autoqa or bodhi bug
 * 4)  nirik will look into updating the nightly-composes directory to eliminate any 404's

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