QA/Meetings/20090513

= Attendees =


 * Jesse Keating (f13)
 * Adam Williamson (adamw)
 * Jóhann Guðmundsson (viking_ice)
 * Will Woods (wwoods)
 * James Laska (jlaska)
 * John Poelstra (poelcat)
 * Kevin Fenzi (nirik)

= Previous meeting follow-up =


 * [wwoods] - write a few more upgrade cases (encrypted root upgrade)
 * Been doing a lot of upgrades this past week, but haven't documented them.


 * [adamw] - update BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow wiki page to include MODIFED->CLOSE process for rawhide bugs during freeze
 * Completed ... see announcement https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-May/msg01034.html

= Autoqa update =


 * Project page - http://autoqa.fedorahosted.org

No updates this week. Wwoods noted that most time was spent testing blocker bugs.

= F-11 Test Day Feedback =

As we approach our final F11 Test Day, an idea was raised by User:Robertmwilliams about how best to solicit feedback. Several ideas were raised including, mailing list blast, blog, formal survey. Under the Keep It Simple Silly model, adamw recommended an email blast to fedora-test-list@ while bcc'ing maintainers involved with F11 test day. Jlaska took an action item to follow up next week.

= F-11-GA Prep =


 * Blocker bugs (by component) - http://tinyurl.com/qzjey2
 * Schedule - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule
 * Blocker Bug review hosted by jkeating on May 11, and May 12 - 35 OPEN blocker bugs (down from the ~78 or so on Sunday) ... so the blocker bug meetings were effective at reducing number of the blocker bugs
 * An additional blocker bug meeting will be hosted next Monday, May 18, 2009 ... stay tuned for announcement.

While discussing blocker bug meeting, f13 noted the timing was not ideal. Some discussion took place around the best timing, and poelcat will update the Fedora 12 schedule with proposed bug review times for review.

= How's my driving? =

Suggestions for improving the weekly QA meeting. Are there topics you'd like to see more, or less, of in these meetings. Is the timing appropriate?

No suggestions were offered.

= Open discussion =

iBus Test Day
adamw reminded us about the scheduled iBus test day tomorrow (May 14th, 2009).
 * Announcement sent by lili - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg00444.html
 * Blog article posted by adamw - http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/05/12/ibus-test-day-on-thursday

QA Needs to know - What is Fedora?
viking_ice asked ... I would like QA to pressure the board ( or whomever is on top of the food chain ) to decide if we are targeting aunt flu or not to get that in the clear once and for all and work can be started by the community to either better support aunt flu or not! I'm a bit worried when things are being run with this gray aria attitude we end up with an "FDS" incident on our hands


 * f13 noted the board has been trying to determine "What is Fedora"
 * stickster+adamw directed folks to Board meeting minutes at Board/Meetings/2009-04-29, Board/Meetings/2009-04-22

The team discussed whether an official statement was needed from the Fedora QA team. The consensus was no official interaction was needed, but noted that high-level guidance would improve focus around prioritizing test efforts, blocker bug review, and release criteria. Current efforts cast a very wide net, which may not be in line with the overall goals of the Fedora project.

libfprintd patch
wwoods raised awareness of an fprintd bug affecting fingerprint readers on several laptop configurations (including those used by wwoods and jlaska). Wwoods asked for team review whether this bug was a blocker or a day-0 worthy. Consensus was to request a release note for the bug and line up for day-0. f13 noted that he would accept this request as it may impact the F11 Fingerprint reader feature.


 * 500460 - libfprint fails to read commands from SGS Thomson reader (ThinkPad T43)

F-12 Alpha status
Viking_ice asked for a status update on the Fedora 12 Alpha decision. f13 directed folks to the meeting summary https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-May/msg00581.html

Autoqa Deps Checking?
Josh Boyer asked for more information on autoqa deps checking. Wwoods and f13 noted that deps checking after the repo udpates is planned for autoqa. Wwoods noted these tests are intended to be informational (non blocking) tests.

= Upcoming QA events =


 * 2009-05-14 - iBus Test Day
 * 2009-05-19 - BugZappers/Triage_days

= Action items =


 * 1) [adamw] - to file a ticket to get bodhi fixed
 * 2) [adamw] - ask bugzilla guys to add a link from the bugzilla fields description page to the wiki page, for fedora
 * 3) [jlaska] - Send informal test day feedback survey to fedora-test-list and test day participants
 * 4) [poelcat] - Propose updated F12 schedule with blocker bug dates

= IRC Transcript =

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