QA/Meetings/20100419

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):


 * jlaska (174)
 * kparal (39)
 * maxamillion (28)
 * adamw (23)
 * jskladan (19)
 * wwoods (16)
 * fenris02 (8)
 * zodbot (4)
 * Oxf13 (3)
 * _lmr_ (2)

Regrets:
 * User:liam
 * User:rhe

= Agenda =
 * Proposed meeting agenda
 * MeetBot summary

Fedora 13 RC test status
Upcoming test milestones:


 * 2010-04-16 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #1 (recap)
 * 2010-04-16 - Pre-RC Branched Acceptance Test Plan
 * 2010-04-23 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #2
 * 2010-04-29 - Test 'Final' Test Compose
 * 2010-04-30 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #3
 * 2010-05-05 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #4
 * 2010-05-06 - Test 'Final' RC

Upcoming test days:
 * 2010-04-22 - Test_Day:2010-04-22_StorageFiltering
 * 2010-04-29 - Test_Day:2010-04-29_Preupgrade

Questions:
 * fenris02 - asked how to update boot.fedoraproject.org configs to use F-13-Beta. Jlaska noted that the configs appeared updated in (infrastructure.git), but promised to follow-up with ''fenris02' after the meeting

Bodhi QA workflow status check-in

 * adamw asked lmacken and mathieu for a heads up as to when the improved feedback system will be available. Adamw noted that mathieu is working on it in the 'tg2 branch' (turbogears 2).  Jlaska asked if there were requirements for bodhi-2 posted, adamw indicated that his earlier email, and dledford's, were being used as the initial requirements.

Proventesters check-in

 * Adam Miller asked whether a vote was needed to move things forward. Adam Williamson offered sending a final draft mail to the list, noting the policy would go into effect if no serious objections surface.
 * After the final draft, jlaska asked what steps should follow. The group came up with:
 * Submit a ticket to create proventester FAS group
 * Email test@l.fp.org to invite people to apply to proventester group
 * Flesh out some test guidance for members of the proventester group (links to QA:Package_update_acceptance_test_plan or Category:Test_Cases).

Package Acceptance Test Plan check-in

 * Kamil Paral discussed the current state of the [|QA:Package_update_acceptance_test_plan]. Kamil noted that we can have the test plan completed before F-13 is released, but work to automate the test plan won't be completed and will be tracked separately as a combination of AutoQA milestones (Package Sanity Test, Resultsdb, depcheck).
 * Kamil plans to send a final draft to the test@l.fp.org list for review. AdamW pointed out he was pretty please with the state of the test plan.

AutoQA check-in
There has been a lot of AutoQA activities in recent weeks, Jlaska asked the group to walk through some highlights.

Josef Skladanka updated the group on several AutoQA activities:
 * 1) Getting URLs of test results from AutoQA testruns is nearly finished.  Patches out for review on autoqa-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org
 * 2) The beakerlib-based initscript test is now in production (see sample results)
 * 3) Making progress on the resultsDB - We have finished the db schema (see AutoQA_resultsdb_schema) and accepted a input API (see AutoQA_resultsdb_API)
 * 4) Next steps ...
 * 5) * Prototyping the resultsdb and using an XMLRPC based API to populate with results (jlaska, 16:06:12)
 * 6) * Creating a front-end which will be used for review/publish the data

Kamil Páral updated the group on his AutoQA focus areas:
 * 1) In addition to the notes above from Josef, working with Petr Splichal to automate the QA:Package_Sanity_Test_Plan (track plans using the autoqa PST milestone).
 * 2) Package Sanity ensures clean install, removal, upgrade, etc of the packages (see sample test output).  There is already a 'pst' script in the repository which you can try to perform sanity tests on a downloaded package or package in a repo.
 * 3) Next steps ...
 * 4) * detect that new updates are pushed to bodhi
 * 5) * download the package and all relevant packages

Will Woods provide some updates on his AutoQA focus areas:
 * 1) We have enough info about current bodhi to write a bodhi update watcher, but it may have some shortcomings and will soon be obsoleted
 * 2) We have a proposed storage encoding for putting test plan metadata in the wiki (see QA:Test_Plan_Metadata_Test_Page), this will be used by the resultsdb

Open discussion - 
= Upcoming QA events =


 * 2010-01-21 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
 * 2010-01-28 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
 * 2010-02-04 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
 * 2010-02-04 - NFSv4 Test Day
 * 2010-02-05 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #1 (recap)
 * 2010-02-11 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' (boot media testing)
 * 2010-02-12 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #2 (recap)
 * 2010-02-12 - Alpha Test Candidate verification (announcement)
 * 2010-02-18 - Alpha Release Candidate verification
 * 2010-02-18 - Color Management test day
 * 2010-02-19 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #3 (recap)
 * 2010-02-24 - Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting (20:00 EST)
 * 2010-02-25 - Yum Langpack plugin test day
 * 2010-03-10 - Pre-Beta Acceptance Test Plan #1
 * 2010-03-12 - Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #1 (recap)
 * 2010-03-18 - Gnome Disk Utility Storage Test Day
 * 2010-03-18 - Test Beta 'Test Compose' DELAYED
 * 2010-03-19 - Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #2 (recap)
 * 2010-03-25 - Test Beta Candidate
 * 2010-03-25 - Printing Test Day
 * 2010-03-26 - Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #3
 * 2010-03-30 - SSSD by default Test Day
 * 2010-03-31 - Beta Go/No-Go Meeting (20:00 EST)
 * 2010-04-01 - ABRT Test Day
 * 2010-04-08 - Virtualization Test Day
 * 2010-04-13 - Test_Day:2010-04-13_Nouveau
 * 2010-04-14 - Test_Day:2010-04-14_Radeon
 * 2010-04-15 - Test_Day:2010-04-15_Intel
 * 2010-04-16 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #1 (recap)
 *  WE ARE HERE 
 * 2010-04-16 - Pre-RC Branched Acceptance Test Plan
 * 2010-04-22 - Test_Day:2010-04-22_StorageFiltering
 * 2010-04-23 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #2
 * 2010-04-29 - Test_Day:2010-04-29_Preupgrade
 * 2010-04-29 - Test 'Final' Test Compose
 * 2010-04-30 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #3
 * 2010-05-05 - Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #4
 * 2010-05-06 - Test 'Final' RC

= Action items =


 * 1) jlaska + fenris02 to review whether F-13-Beta is an option for boot.fedoraproject.org
 * 2) kparal will bother other QA members if they have some comments to the test plan :)
 * 3) maxamillion - send Proventester draft to test@l.fp.org for final review
 * 4) maxamillion - Request new proventester FAS group

= IRC Transcript =

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