QA/Meetings/20100125

= Attendees =

People present (lines said)


 * adamw (120)
 * jlaska (46)
 * wwoods (41)
 * kparal (18)
 * maxamillion (17)
 * beland (11)
 * Oxf13 (9)
 * nirik (4)

Regrets:


 * User:liam
 * User:rhe
 * User:jlaska
 * User:Johannbg

= Agenda =
 * Proposed meeting agenda
 * meetbot summary

Previous meeting follow-up

 * maxamillion bring back conversation about Xfce 4.8 updato on xfce@lists.fp.o and inform about conclusion
 * Features/Xfce48
 * there's not much to report ... its mainly a waiting game on our end but I also know we need to start planning out a Test day
 * Will continue monitoring XFCE 4.8 schedule, and may choose to hold a test day even if it slips.


 * jlaska - reach out to beland for guidance/ideas on how to document the process for how bugs bubble through different release documents
 * beland sent email to fedora-test-list (see http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-January/088137.html)
 * jlaska took action to add bz links to the Common_F13_bugs page


 * adamw to build on the famous spot security blog post and draft something quick'n'dirty for QA review
 * Adam drafted a policy and sent for review (see http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-January/088063.html)
 * Signifant feedback so far, the policy has gone through several iterations.
 * Adam will review updates over the weekend, and submit another update for review
 * Once enough people are satisfied with policy ... will submit to FESCO for review


 * nirik intends to update the Releases/Rawhide wiki page to reflect the changes (help appreciated)
 * nirik is waiting for the subpackage (fedora-release-rawhide) to land

Deps/conflicts prevention

 * Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/autoqa%20depcheck
 * Owner - User:wwoods

Last week
 * lmacken working an API change into the next release of bodhi
 * A close to working depsolv test case (see ) is available. Further clean-up needed.

This week
 * bodhi code required for the post-bodhi-update hook is now in bodhi (thanks lmacken)
 * wwoods working with skvidal and other rpm hackers to try and solve the depcheck problem
 * wwoods looking for help in doing the post-bodhi-update hook
 * kparal has code for generating fake RPMs for testing in git as rpmguard_test.py

rpmguard and autoqa results collection

 * Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Package%20update%20tests
 * Owner - User:kparal

Last week
 * Test results are now sent to autoqa-results, the next large step is ...
 * Continue discussing and start requirements gathering for a more formal method for collecting and presenting package update test results (see https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-January/000120.html)
 * Most of last week in RHCT training
 * Discovered that some packages can be improperly detected by rpmguard (see https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-January/000143.html)

This week
 * Address ticket#114
 * Kparal interested in developing design goals for results db

install automation

 * Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Automate%20installation%20test%20plan
 * Owner - User:lili, User:rhe

Last week
 * Continue working towards a single python test that will automate a DVD install

This week
 * Publish test code using either a public git branch, code on a people page, just a local git checkout
 * Continue test development

packaging/deployment

 * Milestone - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/Packaging%20and%20Review
 * Owner - User:jlaska

Last week
 * Continue to harden the next-steps for JARs in the uncertain (see User:Jlaska/gwt). AdamW reached out to akurtakov for thoughts on uncertain JARs.
 * Merged autotest and autotest-client packages using the single upstream source. Started moving content into standard Fedora locations.  The new packages will come from a single .spec file and build autotest (client) and autotest-server (server).  This seems to make more packaging sense and helps focus efforts on GWT for the time being.

This week
 * Process akurtakov's feedback and remove all uncertain JAR files from the list (see User:Jlaska/gwt).

Current status on packaging:
 * gwt-* - Still scoping out packaging needs (see User:Jlaska/gwt)
 * autoqa - packaged (see autoqa-0.3-2.fc12.src.rpm), will submit once autotest-client is accepted
 * autotest-client - undergoing review -
 * autotest - packaged (see autotest-0.11.0-4.el5.src.rpm, will submit for review after gwt* accepted

Rawhide Acceptance Testing
Last week, 2010-01-21 was the first pre-Alpha rawhide acceptance test milestone. Jkeating worked around a glibc bug by including the previous build. Install images were built and posted on alt.fedoraproject.org. Since AutoQA doesn't yet monitor this location for new install images, tests were initiated manually.

Test Summary:
 * Automated rats_install fail
 * Timeouts due to slow link in PHX2 (infrastructure investigating)
 * Problems with compose format - rats_install doesn't yet support splitting out stage2= and repo=
 * Manual tests pass when using http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/updates-557588.img
 * Results available at Test_Results:Fedora_13_Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_1.

Next Steps:
 * Fix AutoQA rats_install to support stage2= and repo= values
 * Fix AutoQA post-tree-compose hook to monitor for RAT droppings (see ticket#115)
 * 2010-01-28 test run (see rel-eng ticket#3292)

= Upcoming QA events =


 * 2010-01-21 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
 * 2010-01-28 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
 * 2010-02-04 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
 * 2010-02-05 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #1
 * 2010-02-11 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' (boot media testing)
 * 2010-02-12 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #2

= Action items =


 * 1) jlaska to add bugzilla shared query links to Common_Bugs wiki page
 * 2) jlaska and beland to keep working on the process
 * 3) wwoods and kparal to talk about design ideas

= IRC transcript =

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