SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-03-25

Meeting Time

 * 2008-03-25 16:00 UTC
 * #fedora-meeting on freenode

Participants

 * GeraldCox
 * RexDieter
 * SebastianVahl
 * ThanNgo

Agenda

 * topics to discuss:
 * Summary of problems in Fedora 9 Beta (Beta was slipped but maybe there are already existing someone)
 * Artwork: KDM Theme and KSplash
 * No administrator mode in systemsettings (KDE Bug #151669 )
 * kickoff vs simple menu?
 * recent bugs:
 * #438547: nas: pkg split
 * #436579: apidocs subpackage should be noarch

Transcript

 * fedora-kde-sig-2008-03-25.txt

Summary
Summary of problems in Fedora 9 Beta:
 * Due to the slip of the Beta release there are no known reports yet.

Artwork: KDM Theme and KSplash:
 * There will be no GDM theme for Fedora 9 which we can adopt because of some significant changes to gdm.
 * So if we want to use a Fedora themed KDM we need some help from artists.
 * Otherwise the upstream default theme (circles) will be the default for Fedora 9.

No administrator mode in systemsettings:
 * This issue was reported several times on the mailing lists.
 * It is known upstream but not fixed in KDE 4.0.2.
 * ThanNgo will check if it is fixed in svn trunk.

kickoff vs. simple menu?:
 * Kickoff is not very usable with low resolutions and also some users complained about it on the mailing lists.
 * The proposal here is to make the simple menu the default menu in Fedora 9 to simulate the old kicker style menu.
 * The KDE SIG is undecided in this question.
 * So we will bring the discussion to fedora-devel-list (or fedora-desktop-list) for wider audience.

#438547: nas: pkg split:
 * The "Network Sound Daemon" (nas) is always started by default in a default installation.
 * Parts from nasd (%{_libdir}/libaudio.so.?) are required for arts and qt4-x11/-doc/-devel.
 * It seems that no package in Fedora is using nasd.
 * The proposal is to split %{_libdir}/libaudio.so.* into a nas-libs sub package to fulfill the requirements for arts and qt4.
 * So nas (the package and the sound daemon nasd) itself will not be installed by default but still will be available in the repository.
 * Once qt-4.4 will be in rawhide, nas support should be dropped.
 * But the final decision is up to FrankBüttner, the maintainer of nas.

#436579: apidocs subpackage should be noarch:
 * The size of kdelibs-apidocs is quite huge (about 250 megs) and the package is available for each architecture.
 * Every single update will also create an arch-dependent update of the apidocs sub package.
 * The solutions for this could be:
 * using the same hooks as the kernel-doc package
 * maintaining two SRPMS, one arch specific and one noarch
 * get rpm to create noarch sub packages
 * RexDieter will explore the implementation of building from a single source (like kernel-doc).

Comments
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