QA/Meetings/20110117

= Attendees =

People present (lines said)
 * 1) jlaska (154)
 * 2) adamw (92)
 * 3) Viking-Ice (34)
 * 4) kparal (26)
 * 5) rbergeron (5)
 * 6) brunowolff (4)
 * 7) fenrus02 (2)
 * 8) mkrizek (2)
 * 9) jsmith (2)

Unable to attend:
 * 1) Rhe (hopefully sleeping)
 * 2) Hongqing (hopefully sleeping)

= Agenda =
 * Proposed meeting agenda
 * MeetBot summary

Previous meeting follow-up

 * 1) Bodhi feedback patch from fcami (see  awaiting review
 * No updates on https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/bodhi/2010-December/000543.html
 * jlaska will ping lmacken after meeting

Update on critpath test definition (ticket#154)

 * Owner : adamwill
 * Summary
 * See
 * The new system has gone public (see announcement at http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2011-January/000171.html)
 * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_test_case_creation
 * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_package_test_plan_creation
 * Adamw started converting test cases to the new category system, I have about half of our existing test cases done now
 * mailed infrastructure list to discuss the possibility of adding a mediawiki extension which would allow multi-category search (see http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2011-January/009829.html)
 * Discussed the possibility of adding multi-category searching to the python-simplemediawiki API


 * Next steps ...
 * Need to determine if/how to handle Category recursion on the wiki
 * IDEA: Discuss new test case SOP and wiki organization at FUDCon Tempe

Latest and greatest on autoqa-0.4.4

 * Owner : kparal
 * Summary
 * Simplified the test object template a bit by using 'self.__class__' where possible - So easy, a three year old can do it (see https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2011-January/001494.html)
 * clumens installer branch merged - New git-post-receive hook and several installer tests (anaconda_checkbot, anaconda_storage and compose_tree) (see https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2011-January/001473.html)
 * mkrizek implemented logging support and unittest execution support. This stuff is now in separate branches and will be merged once we have a little time to review it (see https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/196 [logging] and https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/258 [unittest])
 * jskladan adjusted his 'new_koji_watcher' patch and the debate ensued (see https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2011-January/001485.html)
 * wwoods posted 'depcheck' patch (see https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2011-January/001512.html
 * hongqing researching anaconda virtio support and integrating that into rats_install/install.py (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Logging)


 * Next steps ...
 * Review outstanding patches and merge into master
 * Resolve remaining outstanding tickets for for autoqa-0.4.4.

Update on TCMS nitrate analysis (ticket#152)

 * Owner : rhe
 * Summary
 * See
 * TCMS Use Cases available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rhe/tcms_use_cases
 * Rhe regrouped the use cases by general and main test events(runs) use cases. The general cases cover the basic uses of wiki, and the events cases covers the detailed certain steps for organizing the events.
 * Wiki and Nitrate comparison available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rhe/tcms_Comparison
 * The comparison is grouped according to the use cases. It has overlaps between each other which I need to further update. But the basic idea is shown, please review them and welcome to provide any comments about the grouping idea/design format/contents.


 * Next steps ...
 * HELP - Feedback needed ... last chance!
 * Identify and prioritize MUSTHAVE and SHOULDHAVE features
 * Begin roll-out of staging server for testing during Fedora 15

= Open discussion -  =

Media_Handout_Requirement

 * Owner : Viking-Ice
 * Summary
 * Viking-Ice drew attention to recent advisory board discussion on SPINs and test plans (see http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2011-January/010271.html)
 * A proposed requirements is available for review at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Media_Handout_Requirements


 * Next steps ...
 * HELP - volunteers welcome - need to adjust current draft to match QA workflow
 * Post feedback to

IDEA - Anyone interested in data mining smolt?
http://smolts.org/


 * Owner :
 * Summary
 * In preparation for upcoming Xorg and gnome-shell test days, we could really use help massaging smolt data
 * The goal -- figure out a way to get a raw dump of all graphics cards out of smolt, then categorize them into generations, then set up queries that abstract out the generations, so we can just say find all cards in NVIDIA generation foo
 * See adamw's blog post at http://www.happyassassin.net/2011/01/17/potential-project-for-someone-graphics-card-generations-in-smolt/


 * Next steps ...
 * In need of volunteer

Reminder - 2010-01-27 - Network Device Naming test day

 * Owner : jlaska
 * Summary
 * Coming soon ... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-01-27_Network_Device_Naming_With_Biosdevname


 * Next steps ...
 * Rename test cases to comply with SOP
 * Adjust test cases to use
 * Add instructions to identify if you have applicable hardware to participate

IDEA - Send reminder to devel-announce listing current QA team services

 * Owner : Viking-Ice
 * Summary
 * Suggested sending a reminder to devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org reminding maintainers of the services offered by the Fedora QA team


 * Next steps ...
 * Locate previous example

= Action items =
 * 1) jlaska - check-in with lmacken on http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2011-January/000742.html
 * 2) adamw - follow-up on advisory-board thread on media requirements for spins (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2011-January/010271.html).

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