QA/Meetings/20110627

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):
 * jlaska (165)
 * rbergeron (40)
 * j_dulaney (34)
 * athmane (26)
 * vhumpa (25)
 * adamw (20)
 * tflink (18)
 * kparal (18)
 * Viking-Ice (11)
 * jskladan (10)
 * jsmith (6)
 * zodbot (5)
 * nirik (3)
 * brunowolff (1)

Unable to attend:
 * 1) Rhe (hopefully sleeping)
 * 2) Hongqing (hopefully sleeping)
 * 3) wutao85 (hopefully sleeping)

= Agenda =
 * Proposed meeting agenda
 * MeetBot summary

Gnome Shell duplicate application names

 * On the terminal issue... xfce "terminal" is getting renamed to "xfce-terminal"
 * There are 3 s-c-* utilites that are *duplicate* to the gnome control panel applets and both show in overview when searched. Discussing the possibility of kicking them out of the menu using "NotShowIn=GNOME" in desktop file
 * Stay tuned to desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org for continued discussion
 * HELP: If you agree/disagree with kicking those 3 outta overview reply on the mailing list

AutoQA updates

 * We sorted out some issues caused by concurrent runs of the koji-bodhi watcher (refer to https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/342)
 * tflink polished the autoqa notification routines so we don't 'spam' bodhi and developers with too much email
 * At tflink's suggestion, jlaska migrated our remaining production F13 test clients to F14
 * lmr announced autotest-0.13.0 last week (https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2011-June/002454.html) - packages available for test in autoqa -testing repo
 * j_dulaney asked for progress on yum bug resulting in missing depcheck results. tflink reported this will take more investigation to figure out. There is a change in 0.5.0 where the non-missing results are reported now (https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/284 and https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/325)
 * Team ready to package and deploy autoqa-0.5.0. Jlaska will update autoqa.spec in master, tflink will handle ChangeLog generation, and kparal will update the stable branch.
 * ACTION: kparal + jlaska to document autoqa release process on wiki

R3 - Retrospective recommendation review

 * Jlaska reminded folks that the retrospective recommendations are still out for review (refer to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_QA_Retrospective#Recommendations)
 * If no additional feedback, jlaska will create tickets and a draft retrospective SOP this week

Cloud SIG testing

 * To get cloud images up on Amazon, we have to have them go through the full Spins process. Which means we need signoff from QA, rel-eng, and Design.
 * Testers needed to help document test procedures (test cases / matrix) and run tests
 * Rbergeron will send mail to the cloud list (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud) to initiate the process, interested testers please follow-up on the list

Review Security Lab spin validation matrix

 * Athmane asked for feedback on his proposed Security Lab spin test matrix
 * https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/207

systemd updates from Viking-Ice

 * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd
 * It was decided ( originally for base ) that all services that ship on a livecd ( aiming at default here but cover all live iso if doable ) have to be converted to native systemd and correctly package before alpha or else they will block the release
 * More details available at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/615

Critical Path Test Cases

 * https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/154
 * Athmane asked for status on number of remaining critpath tests needed
 * ACTION: jlaska - update ticket#154 with current critpath test coverage

= Action Items =
 * 1) kparal + jlaska to document autoqa release process on wiki
 * 2) jlaska - update ticket#154 with current critpath test coverage

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