QA/Meetings/20111107

= Attendees =
 * adamw (107)
 * j_dulaney (37)
 * tflink (32)
 * nirik (29)
 * kparal (25)
 * red_alert (16)
 * mjg59 (8)
 * brunowolff (6)
 * Cerlyn (5)
 * zodbot (4)
 * kk4ewt (3)
 * jskladan (2)
 * t8m (2)
 * mmaslano (1)
 * pschindl (1)

= Agenda =
 * Proposed meeting agenda
 * MeetBot summary part #1
 * MeetBot summary part #2

Fedora 16 release planning

 * Final had been signed off the previous week
 * livecd-tools updates needed testing for F14, F15 and F16
 * F14 preupgrade still needed a fix for bug #737731
 * Common bugs page needed updating for final

Proven tester process

 * FESCo had come up with a tentative plan to abandon the proven tester concept
 * Group was not strongly opposed but had some concerns:
 * a small number of updates where proven tester status made a difference is not the same as zero updates
 * if negative karma was handled better, there may have been more cases where pt status might have made a difference
 * presence of better test plans for critpath packages may also make a difference
 * However, group agreed that the reason for the proposal - updates getting stuck without necessary karma - was valid and should be addressed
 * Agreed that those with an opinion on the issue should contribute it to the devel list thread

Fedora 17 pre-planning: anaconda GUI rewrite

 * Anaconda team has a complete rewrite of the GUI pending and tentatively planned to land in F17
 * adamw will try to co-ordinate with anaconda team to ensure testing can be done as early and often as possible
 * tflink proposed two ideas to ensure test images would always be available
 * try to keep a stable tree of the non-anaconda-related packages available so issues in the general rawhide package set would not affect install testing
 * write some kind of installer image generation tool to make it very easy to spin new installer images with updated anaconda code
 * tflink also proposed coming up with a system of web access to some VMs made available for dedicated F17 install testing
 * Software acceleration support for GNOME Shell, btrfs migration, and /usr move identified as more areas in need of testing if they actually land in F17

= Action Items =


 * adamw to co-ordinate with anaconda team on f17 re-write test planning
 * tflink to evaluate his remote-VM idea some more and report back on how much work it'll be to implement, and available resources

= IRC Log =

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