Meeting:Board meeting 2010-12-06

= Board Meeting = December 06 2010

Present

 * Tom Callaway
 * Jared Smith
 * Jon Stanley
 * Rex Dieter
 * Jaroslav Reznik
 * Stephen Smoogen
 * Mo Duffy

Absent

 * Christopher Aillon

Regards

 * Joerg Simon (weather in Germany)
 * Toshio Kuratomi (dentist)

Assigned meeting secretary: Christopher Aillon Actual meeting secretary: Tom Callaway

Agenda
Updates Board business

Updates
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Board_meetings
 * New Board Members
 * Welcome to Jaroslav!
 * Joerg Simon absent today due to weather in Germany
 * Toshio Kuratomi absent today due to dentist appointment
 * Updated meeting schedule at
 * Cancel meeting that overlaps with FUDCon?
 * No, lets actually have it with a dial-in for folks not present
 * Also add item to FUDCon schedule
 * should setup public dial-in (maybe Fedora Talk???)
 * will be a public meeting
 * make sure meeting agenda doesn't have issues on it that we can't speak publicly about

Board Business

 * Advisory Board discussions
 * Spins SIG
 * I'd like to concentrate on discussing the SIG and spin governance


 * Target Audience

Definition from 2009:

We found four defining characteristics that we believe best describe the Fedora distribution's target audience: Someone who (1) is voluntarily switching to Linux, (2) is familiar with computers, but is not necessarily a hacker or developer, (3) is likely to collaborate in some fashion when something's wrong with Fedora, and (4) wants to use Fedora for general productivity, either using desktop applications or a Web browser.


 * (spot) We have defined one! Maybe we have done a poor job of sharing it.
 * (mo) Definitely lack of information
 * (Jon) Communication problems to blame?
 * (mo) Yes. Also, many people disliked it, and then promptly ignored it. Have not done much to actually use it, besides website.
 * (Jon) who will be responsible. willing to help, but cannot carry entire burden. needs to be merged from rel-eng
 * (spot) can hear rel-eng screaming from here
 * (Mo) this is inline with bruno's idea
 * (spot) What do people want?
 * (Jon) what about design spin?
 * (Mo) barely used, discovered it didn't have network stack.
 * (Jared) is there difference between spin and packageset?
 * (Jared) This is obvious from the Robitics SIG -- they don't know whether they want a spin or a package group or both -- and they're asking us to tell them
 * (Spot) Should we ask the Spins what it is they really want? (custom art, livecd, listed on website, package group in Anaconda)
 * (Jon) will reach out to current spin owners to get answers to that question
 * (Mo) year-old list: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign/Mockups/Spins.fpo#Spins_Content
 * (spot) may be possible to figure out owners by looking at commit history for kickstarts
 * (spot) Two questions regarding "default" spin? Do we want to have a default?  Assuming we do, do we want that default to be the Gnome desktop?
 * (jsmith) We discussed a "Fedora Sampler" DVD on Friday. Should that be the "default" for media handed out at events?
 * (jsmith) Previous boards have already made that decision
 * (Jon) is there anyone who thinks GNOME should not be default
 * The board continues to stand behind GNOME as the default desktop experience.
 * (Mo) there may be better ways to accomplish what Spin SIGs want without actually using "spins"
 * (Mo & Jon) there are specific use-cases for live-images (see list here: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/about under "Why use a spin?")

LIST OF SPINS AND OWNERS:
 * KDE (Rex, Jaroslav)
 * LXDE (Christoph?)
 * XFCE (Kevin F and Christoph Wickert)
 * Fedora Electronics Lab
 * Design Spin (Pierros)
 * Mobility Spin (Peter Robinson)
 * BROffice (going away w/ LibreOffice)
 * Games (Bruno Wolff)
 * Education (Sebastian)
 * Security (Joerg Simon)


 * Any other business?
 * Thanksgiving homework (3 goals from vision statement)
 * Much of this was discussed https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_meeting_2010-11-29
 * Revisit items for vote at future meeting, and give new Board members a chance to make suggestions

Other notes

 * Next meeting: December 13th