QA/Meetings/20100607

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):
 * jlaska (114)
 * adamw (77)
 * wwoods (69)
 * skvidal (34)
 * zodbot (5)
 * nirik (4)
 * Viking-Ice (3)
 * Oxf13 (2)

Regrets:
 * liam
 * rhe
 * kparal
 * jskladan
 * maxamillion

= Agenda =
 * Proposed meeting agenda
 * MeetBot summary

Previous meeting follow-up

 * jlaska + adamw - clear out CommonBugs? requests
 * - PackageKit - System Update fails with PackageKit GUI ("Error getting ...
 * Removed from CommonBugs?
 * - gnome-panel - [abrt] crash in gnome-panel (/usr/libexec/wnck-applet @ w...
 * jlaska to check with halfline for details

Fedora 13 QA Retrospective

 * Owner - User:Jlaska
 * Summary
 * Feedback on QA execution of Fedora 13 testing is available at Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective. This document is intended to serve as a roadmap for Fedora 14 QA planning.


 * Next steps...
 * Jlaska planning to organize Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective feedback and present initial draft of recommendations next week.

Proventester status

 * Owner - User:Maxamillion
 * Summary
 * Adam Miller announced that the proventesters wiki page (QA/JoinProvenTesters) is no longer a draft. We have several TRAC requests to join the proventesters group.  User:Adamwill asked whether we can start processing proventesters requests.  What's next, and who is needed to take it there?


 * Next steps
 * adamw will propose a document 'What do proventesters test for'?
 * jlaska to check-in with lmacken on the status of https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424
 * jlaska to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join to include link to proventester page
 * Someone needs to check with bodhi team on plans for requiring 'proventester' karma feedback for critpath packages for F-13-updates.

AutoQA initscripts test validation

 * Owner - User:Jskladan
 * Summary
 * Josef asked for help in validating a new round of SysVinitscript AutoQA tests. See announcement and instructions and blog.


 * Next steps...
 * Unclear, will check-in with Josef.

AutoQA prioritization

 * Owner - User:Jlaska
 * Summary
 * The immediate goal is to automate the QA:Package_Update_Acceptance_Test_Plan. Kparal asked, what is the most efficient way to prioritize and balance outstanding tasks to accomplish this goal?  The current open milestones tracking progress toward this goal include:
 * Package Sanity Tests
 * Package Update Tests
 * Initscripts Review
 * Results database
 * DepCheck


 * Next steps...
 * Jlaska and wwoods felt that depcheck was the highest priority of the listed tasks
 * Need to discuss with kparal and jskladan for further input

= Open discussion -  =

What's in ?

 * Owner - User:wwoods
 * Summary
 * With several patches now in master, Wwoods asked if there were any other changes planned for the next version of autoqa ?


 * Next steps...
 * wwoods would like to get post-bodhi-update watch into autoqa-0.3.5-1
 * Enable an existing test to run for post-bodhi-update watcher (rpmlint or rpmguard)

Future of rpmlint

 * Owner - User:skvidal, User:kparal
 * Summary
 * Seth and Kamil have been discussing how to improve rpm static and comparative tests in the future. The general idea is to provide a test framework such that it is easy to document how to add new tests.  General discussion available at autoqa-devel.


 * Next steps...
 * Time permitting, Seth will propose a draft framework for review to autoqa-devel

NSS Dependency Issue

 * Owner - User:Adamwill
 * Summary
 * Mether asked adamw to raise this topic for quick discussion to determine if there is any corrective action for QA.


 * Next steps...
 * Adamw sending wwoods a simple summary of the test scenario
 * Wwoods will determine if the existing depcheck test would have detected this failure case

AutoQA handling of branched and rawhide

 * Owner - User:wwoods
 * Summary
 * Wwoods discussed recent autoqa changes and how it impacts testing of rawhide and branched.
 * post-koji-build only triggers for branched (there are no nightly rawhide install images)


 * Next steps...
 * At branch point in release, someone will need to add entries to when the branched repos appear
 * jlaska took an action item to document the changes and add a link to the existing SOP for branching the release

= Upcoming QA events =


 * 2010-07-08 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
 * 2010-07-15 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
 * 2010-07-22 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
 * 2010-07-23 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #1
 * 2010-07-30 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #2

= Action items =


 * 1) jlaska will discuss CommonBugs entry for 552423 with halfline
 * 2) Adamw will propose a document 'What do proventesters test for'?
 * 3) jlaska to check-in with lmacken on the status of https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424
 * 4) Someone needs to check with bodhi on when 'proventester' karma is required for critpath packages
 * 5) jlaska to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join to include link to proventester page
 * 6) adamw to forward wwoods a good explanation of the nss-softokn problem scenario to ensure autoqa catches it in future
 * 7) jlaska to add autoqa FIXME links for a wiki page describing how to update repoinfo.conf when branched release is available, linked from the existing branched SOP pages

= IRC Transcript =

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