QA/Meetings/20090817

= Attendees =


 * Adam Williamson (adamw)
 * David Pravec (dpravec)
 * Edward Kirk (tk009)
 * James Laska (jlaska)
 * (jeff_hann)
 * Jesse Keating (f13)
 * Jóhann Guðmundsson (viking-ice)
 * Kamil Paral (kparal)
 * Paul Frields (stickster)
 * Seth Vidal (skvidal)
 * Will Woods (wwoods)
 * Edward Kirk (tk009)

Regrets:
 * Liam Li (lili)
 * He Rui (rhe)

= Agenda =

Proposed meeting agenda

Previous meeting follow-up

 * No action items from previous meeting

F-12-Alpha-RC1 has arrived
Release engineering Alpha candidate RC1 is available, Fedora QA will be responsible for:
 * Testing the alpha candidate -- QA:Fedora_12_Alpha_RC1_Install_Test_Results
 * Verifying F-12-Alpha blocker bugs:
 * NEW - kernel > 139 stuck during boot, encrypted LVM VG's
 * User:Markmc noted this bug depends on an unreleased rawhide kernel ... removed from blocker list
 * MODIFIED - kms broken and can cause oops without git3 upstream PAT patches
 * Clyde chymned in on the bug report with positive test results. Jlaska reported some issues using radeon on his rawhide system (see ).
 * MODIFIED - geode not i686 arch in rpmrc.in
 * Jkeating commented on the test results posted ... what it means to me is that we'd have to change more than just that little rpm bit to get this working for geodes, and that's change I can't stand behind for ALpha

Jkeating noted the test results page was empty. Jlaska indicated the compose landed late and Liam is in training this week. Jlaska would send out a request for testing to the mailing list after the meeting.

Alpha Readiness
How are we looking? Ask the team for input on their focus areas on Alpha readiness.

Installer
Jlaska reported that as of Friday (anaconda-12.14) we have good results in thanks to Liam and Rui (see QA:Fedora_12_Alpha_TCRegression_Install_Test_Results). Based on that and the F12 Alpha blocker bug we are in good shape for the installer. We will of course organize and execute testing against the current RC1 (see QA:Fedora_12_Alpha_RC1_Install_Test_Results).

Dpravec and Kparal both reported a much improved install experience with recent rawhide refreshes on their laptops.

Kparal noted one issue related to multi-monitor setup. Jlaska noted he didn't see any dual-head issues reported at the last fit'n'finish display test day (see Test_Day:2009-07-07_Fit_and_Finish:Display_Configuration). Kparal asked whether it made sense to add bug reports to old test day wiki pages. Adamw replied that it's a good practice, as people setup watchers for the test day pages.

Xorg-x11-*
Adamw notified the team that there are some unpleasant bugs, but nothing that appears to be a show-stopper yet. Jkeating made a decision to postpone the fix for the random screen-blanking issue until post-Alpha.

Adamw advised jlaska on getting a bug reported for a radeon problem experienced on his laptop. When in doubt ... Xorg/Debugging. Jlaska filed to track this issue.

Other?
Jkeating expressed concern about test coverage for live images. Jlaska that live images have been getting a bit of a workout with recent test days and confirmed positive install results from last weeks live image.

AdamW noted that none of the big-hitter applications are broken, we've got annoying things like the notification area bug fixed, it's looking pretty decent to me.

Nirik indicated he was experiencing some compose-related issue with nightly live images ... but those issues shouldn't affect the Alpha. The team chymned in with praise for nirik's daily rawhide live images (see http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes).

AutoQA update from wwoods
Wwoods updated the team on some recent autoqa milestones. The short summary:

I set up a way to pass the systemwide config to the tests put some email config stuff in the system autoqa.conf and taught all the tests to send email so now they're all sending email to the autoqa-results list https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-results/2009-August/thread.html

Other recent updates include:
 * updated the test-writing notes a bit: Talk:Autotest
 * fixed the watcher scripts and got them running on a cron job, so the tests run automatically and send emails to autoqa-results when finished
 * fixed the conflicts test
 * Blog-o-sphere

Kparal noted that there is interest from Petr Splichal (nick psss on #fedora-qa) on adding package build tests. Dpravec and Kparal both indicated having test writing documentation would be really helpful. Wwoods confirmed improving the documentation is on the plan (see https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/14) and noted any help would be welcome.

2009-08-11 - Fit'n'Finish - Peripherals
Adamw ran his test day wiki script and sent the result to mclasen with a suggestion he do a report. For the record, it shows 10 NEW, 2 ASSIGNED, one CLOSED for the peripherals day.

2009-08-13 - NetworkManager
See test summary from Adam Williamson - summary

2009-08-18 - Printing
See Matthias Clasen's anncounement - Fit'n'Finish Printing

2009-08-20 - ABRT
ABRT Test day page maturing, stay tuned to announcement from David Pravec. Dpravec noted the wiki page is still undergoing some cleanup and refactoring. Kparal noted he was planning to send out an updated to the test day live image create script, and would have ABRT live images available soon.

Adamw asked if any help was needed in preparing for the event.

2009-08-27 - Dracut
Jlaska asked who has the ball for QA on hosting and preparing for the dracut test day. Jlaska took an action item to catch up with Viking_ice.

vncrobot
Dpravec updated the team of some investigating around using vnc to perform remote GUI verification. http://www.vncrobot.com recently was updated to GPL2 licensing and shows promise. Dpravec plans to monitor and update the team if anything surfaces.

Wwoods noted it seems like it could be really useful once we have some idea how we'd set up for a GUI functional test.

status of gnome-power-manager
Jeff_hann asked the group for an update on gnome-power-manager. Jeff is experiencing some issues against F-11 related to battery on AC power. Jeff and adamw walked through a few bugs to identify if those were the root issue. Jeff had to step out, but would report back with a new bug against F-11 to track his issue.

= Upcoming QA events =


 * 2009-08-17 - Alpha Candidate Compose
 * 2009-08-18 - Fit'n'Finish - Printing
 * 2009-08-20 - ABRT
 * 2009-08-24 - QA/Meetings/20090824 at 16:00 UTC

= Action items =


 * [jlaska] - catch up w/ Viking_ice on dracut test day -- who has the ball?

= IRC transcript =

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