QA/Meetings/20090803

= Attendees =


 * James Laska (jlaska)
 * Jóhann Guðmundsson (viking-ice)
 * John Poelstra (poelcat)
 * Jesse Keating (f13)
 * Will Woods (wwoods)
 * Denise Dumas (denise)
 * Josh Boyer (jwb)
 * Warren Togami (warren)

Regrets:
 * Adam Williamson (adamw)
 * David Pravec (dpravec)
 * Kamil Paral (kparal)
 * Liam Li (lili)
 * He Rui (rhe)

= Agenda =

Proposed meeting agenda

Previous meeting follow-up

 * 1) [jlaska] - file bug against distribution for rawhide pungi problems
 * 2) * Filed and fixed. See
 * 3) [poelcat] - to send blocker bug meeting announce
 * 4) * Sent ... see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00655.html
 * 5) [adamw] - to summarize blocker meeting
 * 6) *  link to meeting summary
 * 7) * See IRC transcript
 * 8) [dpravec] - posting some fun ascii art for blocker bug meeting
 * 9) * Posted ... hilarity ensued (see minutes)
 * 10) [jlaska] - talk to warren about a rawhidewatch post on rpm xz workaround for rawhide testers
 * 11) * Thanks Warren! ... http://rawhidewatch.wordpress.com/2009/07/31/unable-to-update-to-rawhide-rpmlibpayloadisxz/
 * 12) [kparal] - investigate updates to Test Day livecd-creator instructions
 * 13) * Updated posted to QA/Test_Days/Create followed by discussion on fedora-test-list

Dracut rawhide testing update
Viking_ice updated the team with notes from his discussion on the current state of Dracut with Harald Hoyer.

Harald, pjones, davej (kernel) and jwrdegoede (anaconda) are currently investigating the swithover for rawhide. They indicated the most common setups should be operational and the target for the upcoming dracut test day will be focusing on:
 * networked root volumes (e.g. iscsi and fcoe)
 * complex raid/lvm setups

f13 also informed the group that one of the hurdles to network root volumes involved the %buildrequires of the kernel and firmware that's packaged outside the kernel for network storage, network cards and scsi cards.

Viking-Ice plans to stay in touch with Harald to keep on top of test days and test case writing.

Alpha test compose
Jlaska informed the team that it appears the udev issue blocking installation last week was resolved with a patch from clumens and jeremy (see http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=e6402846cae226519bfc34feb4f92b40d3bf0885). There was some confusion as to whether this was the final approved fix. Denise Dumas confirmed this was the fix agreed on by clumens and jeremy.

Question(s) to answer:
 * 1) When to build the test compose?
 * 2) * Jlaska took an action item to update the rel-eng test compose ticket with current status (see https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2016).
 * 3) * Jkeating took an action item to update the ticket so Liam can proceed with community testing of the test compose.
 * 4) What impact does this have on the Alpha?
 * 5) * Jlaska suggested we will begin filling out the matrix but are behind by 4 days. I don't think this means a slip is required yet ... but it's a good indicator if we begin to miss other alpha targets.

Once test compose is available, Liam Li has invited install testers to contribute results against the upcoming Alpha Candidate.


 * See mailing list announcement
 * See QA:Fedora_12_Install_Test_Plan
 * See QA:Fedora_12_Alpha_Install_Test_Results

Upcoming release events:
 * 2009-07-29 -  MISSED  - Alpha Test Compose
 * 2009-08-06 - Compose Alpha Candidate
 * 2009-08-06 - 2009-08-13 - Test Alpha Candidate
 * 2009-08-10 - Alpha go/no_go
 * 2009-08-13 - Sync to mirrors

Alpha blocker bug day#4
No alpha blocker meeting is scheduled for this Friday. Given that the test compose hasn't been built, do folks feel review of the forthcoming blockers is desired?

Some discussion followed on the usefulness of a Friday blocker bug meeting, and a Monday go/no go meeting. In the end, the decision was to host a Friday blocker bug meeting as has been done in the previous 3 Fridays. Ideally, this should facilitate a faster go/no_go meeting on Monday.


 * Jlaska will send out meeting announcement
 * Poelcat agreed to help provide a meeting summary

AutoQA update
Update from Will Woods on recent AutoQA efforts. Last week wwoods finished the remaining test of the 'installation' portion. Which is to say that we now have a test script that:
 * 1) downloads images
 * 2) starts a virt guest
 * 3) logs serial console output until loader / stage1 starts
 * 4) logs serial console output until stage2 gets loaded
 * 5) downloads all anaconda logs from guest as it runs the installation
 * 6) declares success if anaconda finds and formats the disks.
 * 7) declares failure if the guest either ...
 * 8) * goes silent for 60 seconds or more, or
 * 9) * takes more than ~10 minutes without finding the disks
 * 10) * if anaconda traces back

Next steps ...
 * 1) Continue documenting test writing instructions at Autotest (and Talk page)
 * 2) Make it run automatically when we get a new rawhide
 * 3) Those results somewhere useful

No open discussion topics were raised.

= Upcoming QA events =


 * 2009-08-04 - BugZappers/Triage_days
 * 2009-08-06 - Alpha Candidate Compose
 * 2009-08-10 - QA/Meetings/20090810 at 16:00 UTC

= Action items =



= IRC transcript =

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