Talk:Music Creation Lite Spin

Initial review 2011-03-13
--Cwickert 02:10, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Please fill out all sections of the template
 * Your spin mist follow the Spins Guidelines, e.g it must be based on one of the base ks files
 * Please remove all non-Fedora stuff from the ks, even if it's commented out
 * Include fedora-live-desktop.ks and add what you need instead of starting from fedora-livecd-desktop.ks and then removing so much
 * Remove the graphics drivers stuff, they are part of the base kickstarts
 * To remove stuff, you can include fedora-live-minimization.ks instead of specifying everything individually
 * You are modifying installed packages in %post. This is not allowed, once installed, all packages must be complete. You can only make these changes for the livecd, this means this needs to happen in the livecd initscript /etc/rc.d/init.d/livesys. Refer to other kickstarts for how to do this.
 * When you are done, mark the spin "Spins_Ready_For_Wrangler" again
 * If you want this spin for F15, please do this ASAP because we are already late

- Based on lack of time, a new goal for this will be for the Fedora 16 release. The review above provides important information on do's and don't within Fedora hosted spins. Also, I think the minimization ks are new and these may help a lot in keeping the size down, while providing a useful range of applications within a CD size image. --sunset06 02:51, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Why lite?
Why "lite"? Is there any other music spin? --Cwickert 02:11, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

- Not yet. The idea was to show of capabilities with Fedora only packages, and limited to a single CD. A full, out of Fedora spin was discussed, that would include RPM Fusion packages that make the spin more representative of all that is on offer. This has not been actioned. --sunset06 02:42, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Planet CCRMA
Is this project using Planet CCRMA resources? I believe it would save a lot of work

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- 1: An actual Fedora hosted spin can contain only packages that are already part of Fedora. This rules out packages that can't be in Fedora.

- 2: For the most part, CCRMA are happy for Fedora packagers to beat the CCRMA packages into shape so that they can be Fedora packages, ie they need to meet the Fedora packaging guidelines, and pass a package review. There is always help needed here ;-)

- 3: Fedora appears to not want to include an alternate kernel with the real-time patches; this makes it difficult to provide excellent low-latency audio processing. Note that kernel-2.6.39 has an improved scheduler that may go some way toward this.

What we thought would make sense is to:

- create an in-Fedora spin (about 1GB), showing the best of Fedora packages for audio development.

- create a fuller spin out of Fedora spin with the real-time kernel, and a larger range of packages, including some that can't be in Fedora itself. ++ --sunset06 11:35, 11 July 2011 (UTC)