Packaging:Minutes20070918

Present

 * JesseKeating
 * RalfCorsepius
 * TomCallaway
 * ToshioKuratomi
 * VilleSkyttä
 * Rex Dieter

Writeups
No new guidelines this week.

Votes
The following proposals were considered:
 * Python Egg Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/PythonEggs
 * Accepted (5 - 0)
 * Voting for: spot abadger1999 scop rdieter racor

Other Discussions
KMods were briefly discussed. spot will be changing the guidelines to reflect that FESCo issued a ban on new kmods, old kmods can remain for F8 but will either be merged into the kernel or dropped for F9. The issue of user-land tools that require the kernel module was brought up. What to do with them was deferred until we know if the kmods in question will be merged into the kernel or not.

IRC Logs
(10:04:20 AM) abadger1999: tibbs_, abadger1999, f13, scop, racor, spot, rdieter: Everyone ready? (10:04:26 AM) rdieter: here (10:04:51 AM) f13: yeah (10:04:59 AM) racor: yep (10:05:44 AM) scop: pong (10:06:27 AM) abadger1999: well, we have this still: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/PythonEggs (10:08:56 AM) rdieter: seems like it's gotten ample feedback, looks like winner to me. (10:09:36 AM) abadger1999: Cool. (10:09:47 AM) ***spot is here (10:09:56 AM) spot: sorry for the delay, got in traffic on the way back from wendys (10:10:08 AM) ***rdieter hates it when that happens. :) (10:10:20 AM) spot: ok, lets talk about Eggs. (10:10:58 AM) spot: i like the draft, it looks good to me as is (10:11:50 AM) spot: +1 from me (10:12:13 AM) abadger1999: +1 (10:12:14 AM) rdieter: if we're voting, +1 here too. (10:12:57 AM) spot: yep, i think we're voting. :) (10:14:15 AM) scop: +1 (10:16:22 AM) abadger1999: Well, that's four. f13, racor? (10:17:00 AM) racor: sorry, I am half-distracted (10:17:09 AM) racor: +1 (10:17:24 AM) spot: ok, it passes (10:17:40 AM) spot: That was the only item i had on the agenda for this week (10:18:04 AM) spot: If anyone else has an item for us to discuss, speak now (if not, please say no, so we're not waiting around guessing) (10:18:06 AM) spot: no (10:18:11 AM) abadger1999: no (10:18:20 AM) rdieter: no (10:18:26 AM) svahl left the room (quit: "Ex-Chat"). (10:18:35 AM) scop: kmods? (10:18:58 AM) scop: I think they were banned by FESCO (10:19:08 AM) scop: (haven't seen an announcement) (10:19:08 AM) spot: scop: FESCo said no kmods. I'm going to alter the guidelines to reflect this now. (10:19:18 AM) spot: old kmods can stay until F9 (10:19:25 AM) scop: what about packages that more or less depend on them? (10:19:29 AM) spot: (old, as in, existing kmods) (10:19:34 AM) scop: ok (10:19:42 AM) spot: scop: they need to be merged with the kernel (10:20:36 AM) scop: eh... I'm talking about things that only work if the modules are not available (10:20:48 AM) spot: scop: such as? (10:20:50 AM) scop: s/are not/are/ (10:21:02 AM) spot: ok, that makes more sense (10:21:08 AM) scop: em8300 GUI utilities, em8300 headers (10:21:28 AM) spot: scop: lets worry about that if/when davej doesn't accept the code into the fedora kernel (10:21:42 AM) scop: for example the em8300.h in em8300-devel is the only thing required present for some media players to build support for them in (10:21:49 AM) scop: spot, ok (10:22:08 AM) scop: (good news that I don't have to rush into pruning this stuff for F8, thanks for that) (10:22:31 AM) spot: scop: yeah, that would just be cruel. (10:22:47 AM) spot: tibbs_: are you around? (10:22:49 AM) scop: s/...support for them/...support for em8300 devices/ (10:23:48 AM) spot: ok, if there is nothing else (10:23:55 AM) spot: then i think this meeting is adjourned. (10:24:05 AM) ***spot needs to go finish racor's perl review (10:26:26 AM) spot: thanks all. :) (10:26:58 AM) scop: thanks