SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-12-18

Meeting Time

 * 2007-12-18 16:00 UTC
 * #fedora-meeting on freenode

Participants

 * KevinKofler
 * LukasTinkl
 * SebastianVahl
 * ThanNgo

Agenda

 * topics to discuss:
 * Trolltech's Phonon GStreamer backend
 * kdemultimedia3 compat package?
 * API documentation
 * Live images for KDE4
 * development progress: the road to kde4

Transcript

 * fedora-kde-sig-2007-12-18.txt

Summary
Trolltech's Phonon GStreamer backend:
 * Trolltech has committed a GStreamer backend for phonon which will likely become the upstream default for kde 4.1
 * We'll have to wait until it gets usuable and use xine-lib for now

kdemultimedia3 compat package?
 * at least taxipilot is relying on aRts-related libraries provided by kdemultimedia 3 which has now broken dependencies
 * Also it's possible that some apps will fail at runtime due to trying to load some aRts modules which were in kdemultimedia3 and not finding them
 * If we create a kdemultimedia3 we should make sure phonon, arts and pulseaudio work together
 * taxipilot itself isn't ported to kde 4 yet
 * there was no consensus if we drop taxipilot because of it's unmaintained kde4 state, patch it to don't use arts or create a kdemultimedia3 package
 * If we create a kdemultimedia3 package we have to get it reviewed because it's not existing in cvs

API documentation:
 * API documentation for kde 4 is currently not packaged but should be included in the future as -apidocs subpackages
 * A suggestion by RexDieter was to package them seperately to get them noarch
 * But this would mean to duplicate many spec files
 * the current decision was to package them as a part of the current specs

Live images for KDE4:
 * SebastianVahl created a tracker bug for monitoring the current MUST/SHOULD solve issues for the live images: #421891
 * #422061 is working with selinux in permissive mode since yesterdays rawhide push
 * in comparison to the kde3 live images the following applications were dropped: krusader, koffice-krita, twinkle and ktorrent
 * the current package list: CurrentPackageList
 * One of the biggest remaining issues is the non-working installer (#424811 ). JeremyKatz said he has a hack to workaround this

development progress: the road to kde4:
 * kdeadmin, kaider and extragear-plasma are in rawhide now, kde-l10n is still being reviewed (#421231 ).
 * the kde4 port of bluecurve is also awaiting review (#425872 )
 * /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common was splitted into a kdelibs-common subpackage (# 417251 )

recent bugs:
 * flash plugin seems to be still not working on x86_64 (#410651 )
 * but this seems to be an issue of nspluginwrapper and a separate bug report against nspluginwrapper is needed

Comments
(These comments are written after the meeting)