SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2007-12-11

Meeting Time

 * 2007-12-11 16:00 UTC
 * #fedora-meeting on freenode

Participants

 * KevinKofler
 * PavelShevchuk (Stalwart)
 * RexDieter
 * SebastianVahl
 * ThanNgo

Agenda

 * topics to discuss:
 * gcc 4.3 and KDE 4 (1, 2 )
 * development progress: the road to kde4
 * extragear packaging
 * recent bugs:
 * /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common and kdelibs3 - kdelibs-common package

Transcript

 * fedora-kde-sig-2007-12-11.txt

Summary
gcc 4.3 and KDE 4:
 * according to upstream gcc 4.3 could miscompile kde4 and may produce unusable kde4 applications
 * we have to find out when gcc-4.3 is actually hitting rawhide
 * after that is done we have to rebuild all packages to figure out the problems and fill bugs

development progress: the road to kde4:
 * only kdeadmin is left from the normal packages
 * kde-l10n will maybe finished by ThanNgo tomorrow
 * KevinKofler suggested to eventually drop most of kdebase3-devel which isn't useful anymore
 * review for extragear-plasma is still ongoing and will be updated to 3.97.0 by SebastianVahl
 * it will also obsolete kdeaddons since most of the packages/functions are now in extragear-plasma

 extragear packaging:
 * It would be good to package some modules from extragear which were in the base packages in KDE3:
 * extragear-base (all of it, or all that works, it's Konqueror plugins)
 * extragear-graphics: at least kiconedit and kcoloredit
 * extragear-multimedia: at least kmid and kaudiocreator
 * pim/ksig
 * if more than one app is in an extragear module it should be named like the module (e.g. extragear-multimedia)
 * packaging extragear modules won't get our primary attention. We should send a mail to fedora-devel-list with a list of the now missing apps from the base distribution and seek for maintainers who package them from extragear

/usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common and kdelibs3:
 * kdelibs3 is now missing some things which are in kdelibs
 * we will prepare a kdelibs-common package (from kdelibs(4)) which is required by kdelibs3 and kdelibs

Open Discussion:
 * LiveCD: yelp is pulling in firefox (again) which should be fixed (in yelp or in system-config-date which is requireing yelp)
 * the current package list of the livecd: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SebastianVahl/CurrentPackageList

Comments
(These comments are written after the meeting)


 * kdeadmin is now imported and build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=27760
 * review for extragear-plasma is updated to 3.97.0: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=409401
 * Bug report for omitting the requirement on yelp: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=420101