QA/Meetings/20100621

= Attendees =

People present (lines said):
 * 1) jlaska (103)
 * 2) kparal (56)
 * 3) adamw (38)
 * 4) jskladan (17)
 * 5) Viking-Ice (8)
 * 6) robatino (6)
 * 7) zodbot (4)
 * 8) mmcgrath (2)
 * 9) dafrito (1)

Regrets:
 * liam
 * rhe
 * wwoods

= Agenda =
 * Proposed meeting agenda
 * MeetBot summary

Previous meeting follow-up

 * 1) jlaska to check-in with lmacken on the status of https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424
 * 2) adamw to forward wwoods a good explanation of the nss-softokn problem scenario to ensure autoqa catches it in future
 * 3) jlaska to propose a clean-up of the Critical Path Packages wiki to be a suitable home for critpath information

F14 QA Recommendations

 * Owner - User:Jlaska
 * Summary
 * Jlaska organized Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective feedback into a list of QA recommendations for Fedora 14.


 * Next steps...
 * All - Please review recommendations
 * jlaska - will file a fedora-qa'' TRAC ticket for each recommendation. If you would like to work on a specific task, please also file a ticket.

Proventester Update

 * Owner - User:Maxamillion, User:Adamwill
 * Summary
 * Adam Miller announced that the proventesters wiki page (QA/JoinProvenTesters) is no longer a draft.
 * There are several TRAC requests to join the proventesters group.
 * User:Adamwill drafted proventester instructions and sent to the list for review.


 * Next steps
 * Review and finalize adamw's proventesters instructions document (see User:Adamwill/Draft_proventesters_instructions)
 * Waiting on feedback from lmacken on the status of https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424 and re-enabling proventester karma for critpath packages

Systemd approved for Fedora 14

 * Owner - User:Johannbg
 * Summary
 * Viking-ice noted that Features/systemd was approved by FESCO and wanted to propose several QA ideas.


 * Next steps...

Validating Initscript Tests

 * Owner - User:Jskladan
 * Summary
 * Josef asked for help in validating a new round of SysVinitscript AutoQA tests. See announcement and instructions and blog.  Progress continues, and more help is needed to close out this task.


 * Next steps...
 * Continue to support volunteers

AutoQA Prioritization Update

 * Owner - User:kparal
 * Summary
 * The immediate goal is to automate the QA:Package_Update_Acceptance_Test_Plan. The team met and discussed task priorities and agreed on the following prioritization


 * Next steps...
 * INPROGRESS - jlaska working with infrastructure on several tasks
 * - route http://autoqa.fedoraproject.org -> qa01
 * - create mysql database for autotest on db1
 * = Limit access to test systems qa01.c.fp.org through qa06.c.fp.org
 * INPROGRESS - jlaska - set up another private virtual autotest-server
 * jlaska - find a machine where resultdb may run (it can be VM, publicly accessible preferred)
 * kparal - implement *quick* virtualization support --
 * jskladan, wwoods - bodhi hook needs to be tested --
 * jskladan, kparal, wwoods - continue implementing and testing resultdb --

= Open discussion -  =

TCs/RCs archive

 * Owner - robatino
 * Summary
 * Andre asked about archiving old Release Candidate and Test Compose ISOs.


 * Next steps...
 * 1) ACTION: robatino to ask infrastructure team to archive previous RCs/TCs (kparal, 15:57:23)

test case: ABI - stability check

 * Owner - jlaska
 * Summary
 * ABI stability test proposed on planet.fedoraproject by Remi Collet (see http://blog.famillecollet.com/post/2010/06/20/ABI-:-stability-check)
 * No active milestone for improving the rpm* tests, but this felt like a good test idea to capture for future improvement.


 * Next steps ...
 * 1) ACTION: jlaska to create a ticket about possible enhancement/new test case for ABI stability check (kparal, 16:02:09)

= Upcoming QA events =


 * 2010-07-08 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
 * 2010-07-15 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
 * 2010-07-22 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
 * 2010-07-23 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #1
 * 2010-07-30 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #2

= Action items =


 * 1) wwoods to evaluate nss-softokn dependency problem for proper 'depcheck' coverage
 * 2) jlaska to cleanup (or remove) the Critical Path Packages#Background section so that it provides _some_ value
 * 3) Viking-Ice will start 'how to debug systemd problems' guide and send to list for review
 * 4) jlaska to review F14 test day wiki content
 * 5) robatino to ask infrastructure team to archive previous RCs/TCs
 * 6) jlaska to create a ticket about possible enhancement/new test case for ABI stability check

= IRC Transcript =

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