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== Feedback ==
== Feedback ==
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'''From fedora-devel'''
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https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/B3UJKFOCRAY3BEEPTHVPW4RY5GFBZWHU/#B3UJKFOCRAY3BEEPTHVPW4RY5GFBZWHU
1. The dependency concern. Since tuned is written by Python, that causes a dependency impact on Fedora installation.
2. The power-profiles-daemon API should be ported to tuned to provide the function to the application that uses power-profiles-daemon API, such as gnome-shell and gnome-control-center.
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'''From the hardware vendor'''
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Moreover, we discuss it with vendors through the mail.
1. Since tuned covers several kinds of system tuning schemes that allow the vendor to implement their power profile for different devices or workloads. For power-profile-daemon, it only has three profiles to set and every detail setting should be done through the firmware level. If tuned can replace power-profiles-daemon, they can imagine they can develop the profile in a much more flexible manner.
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'''The previous discussions'''
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https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-proposal-tuned-replaces-power-profiles-daemon-self-contained/94995
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== Benefit to Fedora ==
== Benefit to Fedora ==

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Summary

Tuned and power-profiles-daemon provide a similar function to set and tune the power status of a system. Both of them have similar features, if they can be integrated into one, it allows the Fedora user to have more options for power settings of their system and benefits the users.In this proposal, we set up tuned to the default power profile management daemon for the Fedora workstation, including GNOME and KDE plasma. Tuned already provides power profiles for different use cases. Recently, tuned released the translation API layer called tuned-ppd which can translate the power-profiles-daemon API to tuned. The applications that use power-profiles-daemon API can access tuned without modifying the code. For now, the Fedora user can immediately switch to tuned by installing the tuned-ppd package without impacting the user experience. Therefore, tuned can be the default power profile management daemon for Fedora.

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Current status

  • Targeted release: Fedora Linux 41
  • Last updated: 2024-05-13
  • [Announced]
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Detailed Description

This work would replace power-profiles-daemon with tuned. Since tuned already provides a wide range of power profiles for different purposes, this allows the user to have more options for configuring the system power profile. Tuned provides many kinds of advanced and basic profiles for different purposes. Power-profiles-daemon provides the basic power profiles and the profiles can be set to the system through platform_profiles, Intel p-state and AMD p-state. That is simple and clever. However, if the users want to ask for an advanced profile, they need to install another power utility, such as tuned to fine-tune their system. If tuned can be the default power profile management daemon, the users would have a wide range of profiles to fine-tune the system.

Tuned released a new translation API service called tuned-ppd [1]. tuned-ppd can translate the power-profiles-daemon API to tuned API so the application can talk with tuned without modifying the codes. Moreover, the GUI settings, such as gnome-control-center can configure tuned profile through tuned-ppd. tuned-ppd also allows the user to override the basic three power profiles, including power-saver, balanced, and performance through the config file /etc/tuned/ppd.conf [2]. If the user wants to use a customized profile, they can edit the config file and map the custom profile to the basic three power-profiles-daemon profile names. In this way, gnome-control-center can keep the original design to configure the customized profile.

The work expects the tuned to replace the power-profiles-daemons to offer a wide range of power profiles to the fedora users. tuned-ppd resolved the API translation issue so the application can access tuned service through power-profiles-daemon API without converting to tuned API. Moreover, The three basic profiles can be overridden when the user needs it for the use case. It also benefits GNOME applications that can keep the original design and designing a new GUI tool for custom profiles is unnecessary. Therefore, tuned can be the default power setting service for Fedora.

Feedback

From fedora-devel

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/B3UJKFOCRAY3BEEPTHVPW4RY5GFBZWHU/#B3UJKFOCRAY3BEEPTHVPW4RY5GFBZWHU 1. The dependency concern. Since tuned is written by Python, that causes a dependency impact on Fedora installation. 2. The power-profiles-daemon API should be ported to tuned to provide the function to the application that uses power-profiles-daemon API, such as gnome-shell and gnome-control-center.

From the hardware vendor

Moreover, we discuss it with vendors through the mail. 1. Since tuned covers several kinds of system tuning schemes that allow the vendor to implement their power profile for different devices or workloads. For power-profile-daemon, it only has three profiles to set and every detail setting should be done through the firmware level. If tuned can replace power-profiles-daemon, they can imagine they can develop the profile in a much more flexible manner.

The previous discussions

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-proposal-tuned-replaces-power-profiles-daemon-self-contained/94995

Benefit to Fedora

Scope

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