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Drop i686 builds of jdk8,11,17 and latest (18) rpms from f37 onwards

Summary

java-1.8.0-openjdk, java-11-openjdk, java-17-openjdk and java-latest-openjdk packages will no longer build i686 subpackages

Owner

  • Name: Jiri Vanek
  • Email: <jvanek@redhat.com>
  • Product: java and java stack
  • Responsible WG: java-sig (java and java-maint)(which no longer exists)


Current status

Expected schedule

  • during march, drop i686 builds from all jdks in fedora rawhide

Detailed Description

Fedora currently ships:

  • java-1.8.0-openjdk (LTS)
  • java-11-openjdk (LTS)
  • java-17-openjdk (LTS)
  • java-latest-openjdk (STS, jdk18).

All those builds on all architectures except jdk8, where arm32 with jit is built by different package. Unluckily, the i686 bit builds of jdk are rotten in upstream. The recent breakage of i686 JIT just before branching nearly killed jdk17 as system jdk feature. The rotting have main visibility with newer GCCs. If GCC bump, and it does, it always triggers new issues in i686 JIT, and there is less and less people to somehow workaround them. Unluckily, there is probably no longer anyone willing to really fix them

Although there is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EncourageI686LeafRemoval , this proposal have nothign to do with it, not even inspiration. People about OpenJDK learned about after this jdk one was announced.

Benefit to Fedora

The i686 builds are rotten in usptream, and to patch them localy had become pain. We may be introducing very bugy i686 jdk. Better then to do so, we would rather not ship that at all. This will untie hands of both JDK and GCC developers, who will no longer need to dive into nasty legacy code.

Scope

Change owners

Workflow

  • new macro %{java_arches} which will be of value : aarch64 ppc64le s390x x86_64
    • will be declared
  • Once done,
    • All most crucial affected pkg - the blacklist + few others, eg R,graphviz (suggestions welcomed, bottom of sorted by dependent children list) will get filled bugzilla -listing - eg:
adapt [cairo] to removal of java on i686

Dear maintainer, we are going to drop i686 java-openjdk packages in f37 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Drop_i686_JDKs
Your package (maybe jsut some subpakcage) is transitively affected by this change:

[cairo<-libxcb<-doxygen<-git<-subversion<-java-11-openjdk-devel
cairo<-libxcb<-graphviz<-ruby<-git<-subversion<-java-11-openjdk-devel
cairo<-libxcb<-graphviz<-R-devel<-R-java-devel<-java-17-openjdk-devel
...
cairo<-gtk-doc<-docbook-utils<-gawk<-git<-gawk<-git<-subversion<-java-11-openjdk-devel
Shown 50 from 568]

This package was selected as one of the most crucial, which when missing, will burn distro down.
Please take care, and adapt  your package to exclude java on i686. For  your convenience, there was added macro %{java_arches}, including all arches java is available on,  which you can use to ifarch-out java specific features out in i686 (on non-java arches). Although for plain java package, the change is as simple as https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/maven/c/520942645bfd1e4721dacd536a6ccbf80495a8ae?branch=rawhide, you can not use it. The ExclusiveArch: %{java_arches} is not going to work for you, because your package is not simple java application, and also non-java world depends on it (even if you are one of dozen noarchs in this set)
See exemplar PR: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/graphviz/pull-request/9#request_diff
See more details eg in:: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2102298
See why in : https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2772
Please read carefully proposal: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Drop_i686_JDKs
Please see tracking bug for most up to date informations: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2083750
(note, that direct dependencies are already work in progress - native reported and worked on, noarch ones autoadjusted)

I'm terribly sorry to report this bug so late in f37 lifecycle. If you can, please handle this with priority.
    • all native (not noarch) direct dependencies of javas', maven ant (as in here and here (to be generated) will get filled bugzilla -listing - eg:
native [libreoffice] depends on to be removed i686 java-openjdk packages

Dear maintainer, we are going to drop i686 java packages in f37 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Drop_i686_JDKs
your package (or maybe jsut some subpackage)  is directly depending on java and is native.

Please take care, and adapt  your package to exclude java on i686. For  your convenience, there was added macro %{java_arches}, including all arches java is available on,  which you can use to ifarch-out java specific features out in i686 (on non-java arches). Although for plain java package, the change is as simple as https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/maven/c/520942645bfd1e4721dacd536a6ccbf80495a8ae?branch=rawhide, you can not use it. The ExclusiveArch: %{java_arches} is not going to work for you, because your package is not simple java application, and also non-java world depends on it.

See exemplar PR: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/graphviz/pull-request/9#request_diff
See more details eg in:: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2102298
See why in : https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2772
Please read carefully proposal: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Drop_i686_JDKs
Please see tracking bug for most up to date informations: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2083750

I'm terribly sorry to report this bug so late in f37 lifecycle. If you can, please handle this with priority.
    • all noarch direct java, amven ant... dependencies will -listing - get auto injected ExclusiveArch: %{java_arches} noarch if not present, or appended by %{java_arches} if ExclusiveArch already there
    • all bugs will block this feature main bug
  • if all goes ok, we will simply stop building i686 java pacakges in rawhide
  • I'm not sure if there is any sense in creating copr for this, as there is no proper i686 there...

Other developers

  • may notice the multilib i686 java missing.
  • it is up to them to drop i686/use %{java_arches} in specfiles or to provide reasonable workaround
  • have to adapt theirs packages according to filled bugs

Other

  • Release engineering: #10686
    • mass rebuild will NOT be required for this change


  • Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
  • Bug assignees will need to verify the impact of i686

Upgrade/compatibility impact

  • The upgrade on multilib systems will lead to autoremoval of i686 javastack
  • which should be minimum if above bugzillas are properly handled

How To Test

install i686 java will result to not packages found

User Experience

User experience on multilib systems will be bad. Bad reasonable.

Dependencies

There are is unknown number of multilib java consumers. I expect some of them may rise voice, but that will have to handled one by one.

Contingency Plan

  • Contingency mechanism: return i686 java packages
  • Contingency date: (not provided)

Documentation

Will be needed...

Release Notes

None yet...

final listings

All those packages vere identified as live, valid rpm top level components - non subpackages, not dead.pcakcage.

crucial dependences transitively depndnding on java(s)

manually selected packages which, when in troubles, would cause system to case 

alsa-lib
atk
bash
boost
cairo
cmake
coreutils
doxygen
findutils
fontconfig
freetype
gawk
gcc
gettext
ghc
git
glib2
glibc
gmp
gnupg2
graphviz
gtk2
gtk3
harfbuzz
kf5
kf5-kio
libglvnd
libtool
libX11
libXext
make
mesa
ocaml
openssl
pango
perl
php
pkgconf
qt5-qtbase
qt
R
rust
rust-web-sys
sed
systemd
tesseract
vala
zlib

from those 

autoconf automake meson qt5 rubygems rubypick texlive

are noarch, but am not going to handle it separately.

Automake, and autoconf are handled individually: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2102298 , https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2103921 note, that more packages can be added to this basic set, but the number of dependent pkgs was goind down with exponential speed.

Second wave

As after removal of subpackages only 55 "super depndencies remianed, also following list will be handled, although a bit later, and will not block the main bug> 

openldap
gdk-pixbuf2
vte291
ocaml-base
enchant
sendmail
ocaml-ppxlib
LibRaw
libXrandr
coin
selinux-policy
emacs
pipewire
cppunit
kf5-akonadi-server
libnma
libXrender
GConf2
gpgme
gnome-shell
dtkcore
imlib2
rpm
gspell
postfix
nodejs
wget
wxGTK3
gvfs
libgit2
libvirt
fcitx
libepoxy
avahi
psmisc
gedit-plugins
gperftools
allegro
gcr
clang
fluidsynth
ant
libsamplerate
dconf
libevdev
hamlib
mpich
libXv
libgnome
cairomm
ocaml-sexplib0
vim
libassuan
libical
cyrus-sasl
ocl-icd
jsoncpp
json-c
opus
rust
kf5-kglobalaccel
globus-gsi-openssl-error
opensmtpd
groff
NetworkManager
postgresql
tuned
vtk
libguestfs
lighttpd
gimp
libgnomeui
xorg-x11-server
libreoffice
tbb
proj
libarchive
usermode
gtkmm30
libcap-ng
kf5-pimcommon
fribidi
golang
ocaml-re
curl
openmpi
kf5-kdelibs4support
kf5-plasma
nasm
libtalloc
ocaml-findlib
qt5-qtwebkit
gtksourceview3
libnotify
portaudio
libusb1
ibus
trytond
libdrm
libXdamage
parted
kf5-kcrash
nbdkit
globus-gsi-sysconfig
globus-gss-assist
libxcb
libsecret
libadwaita
llvm
kf5-kpimtextedit
lcms2
httpd
motif
libseccomp
rust-xcb
pixman
kf5-sonnet
libnl3
gtk-sharp2
libexif
granite
abrt
mariadb
gtksourceview4
kf5-akonadi-mime
kf5-knotifications
poppler
check
libXaw
SDL_mixer
geos
mate-desktop
libxfce4util
kdelibs3
gstreamer1
koji
pidgin
opensips
gd
ocaml-result
gjs
jq
maven
protobuf
kf5-kio
tcsh
subversion
libkdegames
enchant2
cryptsetup
libtheora
libslirp
tk
iptables
nginx
sugar
nagios
startup-notification
e2fsprogs
php
freeglut
capstone
openjpeg2
mono
libreport
hunspell
libgsf
librsvg2
zeromq
libglvnd
qt6-qtdeclarative
libssh
xfconf
ocaml
pulseaudio
sudo
libcanberra
kf5-kguiaddons
kf5-kmime
valgrind
texlive
netcdf
lvm2
latexmk
libXcursor
SDL_image
audit
xfce4-panel
upower
polkit
dbus
exim
octave
ruby
R
ocaml-ounit
libldb
suitesparse
pangomm
libinput
libssh2
fawkes
qt5-qtwebengine
dtkgui
cups
baresip
rrdtool
lv2
libpeas
libyaml
qt6-qtbase
gtk4
openal-soft
libxkbcommon
liblo
opencv
mesa
libxfce4ui
gtkmm24
bind
julia
gap
globus-xio
xfdesktop
rubygems
ocaml-lwt
samba
libevent
hdf5
ansible
jasper
R-Rcpp
plplot
imath
ocaml-compiler-libs-janestreet
qt3
fmt
clutter
libsoup
vdr
logrotate
qtwebkit
libva
hdf
kdelibs
qt5-qtscript
webkit2gtk3
hidapi
zsh
libgpg-error
libselinux
mock
root
libXinerama
collectd
xcb-util
patch
atkmm
appstream
libgudev
fcitx5
libXfixes
ocaml-seq
doxygen
erlang
snappy
librevenge
perl
SDL2_image
libtevent
glibmm24
evolution
qt5-qtbase
libXxf86vm
libidn
libwnck3
ImageMagick
qt5-qtmultimedia
libxklavier
openexr
pam
fltk
dracut
qemu
iproute
guayadeque
nss
gnuplot
gdal
kf5-kwallet
dtkwidget
netpbm
geany-plugins
kf5-kdeclarative
graphene
libwebp
libXScrnSaver
libXtst
rsyslog
libglade2
matreshka
globus-gssapi-gsi

it may be also good idea to run : https://github.com/judovana/FedoraSystemJdkBump/commit/e531845063c310ce3ba39f5e37a34b8021603d25 on the chart edges, and so to print pkgs which are cause of the transitive depndence. Note, that output of this must be consuleted with existing lists, so there is no double spamming.

direct noarch java dependencies

ant-antunit
antlr32
antlr-maven-plugin
antlrworks
ant
aopalliance
apache-commons-beanutils
apache-commons-cli
apache-commons-codec
apache-commons-collections4
apache-commons-collections
apache-commons-compress
apache-commons-digester
apache-commons-exec
apache-commons-fileupload
apache-commons-io
apache-commons-jxpath
apache-commons-lang3
apache-commons-logging
apache-commons-math
apache-commons-modeler
apache-commons-net
apache-commons-parent
apache-commons-pool
apache-ivy
apache-parent
apache-resource-bundles
apache-sshd
apiguardian
aqute-bnd
args4j
assertj-core
atinject
automake
auto
BareBonesBrowserLaunch
batik
bcel
beansbinding
beust-jcommander
bouncycastle
brazil
bsf
bsh
buildnumber-maven-plugin
byte-buddy
byteman
cambozola
canl-java
CardManager
cdi-api
CFR
cglib
classloader-leak-test-framework
classpathless-compiler
clojure-core-specs-alpha
clojure-maven-plugin
clojure
clojure-spec-alpha
codehaus-parent
colossus
console-image-viewer
cortado
crypto-policies
decentxml
directory-maven-plugin
dirgra
disruptor
ditaa
dom4j
easymock
ecj
ed25519-java
enjarify
exec-maven-plugin
fasterxml-oss-parent
felix-parent
felix-utils
fernflower
filedrop
fishbowl
flute
fop
forge-parent
freecol
freemarker
freerouting
fusesource-pom
google-gson
google-guice
guava
hamcrest
hawtjni
hibernate-jpa-2.0-api
hibernate-jpa-2.1-api
hid4java
httpcomponents-client
httpcomponents-core
httpcomponents-project
icu4j
imagej
IPAddress
jackson-annotations
jackson-bom
jackson-core
jackson-databind
jackson-dataformats-binary
jackson-dataformats-text
jackson-jaxrs-providers
jackson-modules-base
jackson-parent
jacoco
jacop
jakarta-activation
jakarta-annotations
jakarta-el
jakarta-interceptors
jakarta-json
jakarta-mail
jakarta-oro
jakarta-saaj
jakarta-server-pages
jakarta-servlet
jakarta-xml-ws
janino
jansi1
jargs
javacc-maven-plugin
javacc
java_cup
java-diff-utils
java-dirq
javaewah
java-jd-decompiler
java-mersenne-twister
javapackages-bootstrap
javapackages-tools
javaparser
javapoet
java-runtime-decompiler
java-scrypt
javassist
jaxb-api
jaxb-dtd-parser
jaxb-fi
jaxb-istack-commons
jaxb
jaxb-stax-ex
jaxen
jboss-jaxrs-2.0-api
jboss-logging
jboss-logging-tools
jboss-parent
jchardet
jcip-annotations
jcodings
jcommon
jcommon-serializer
jctools
jcuber
jdeparser
jdependency
jdepend
jdom2
jdom
jericho-html
jetty
jflex
jFormatString
jfreechart
jgit
jglobus
jgoodies-common
jgoodies-forms
jgoodies-looks
jgrapht
jline2
jline
jmock
jmol
jneuroml-core
jnr-constants
jnr-ffi
jnr-netdb
jnr-posix
jnr-x86asm
jol
jolokia-jvm-agent
joni
jopt-simple
jorbis
jpanoramamaker
jsch-agent-proxy
jsch
json_simple
jsr-305
jtidy
junit5
junit
juniversalchardet
jzlib
laf-plugin
lancer
ldapjdk
libbase
libfonts
libformula
liblayout
libloader
librepository
libserializer
libvirt-java
log4j
mariadb-java-client
Mars
maven2
maven-antrun-plugin
maven-archetype
maven-archiver
maven-artifact-transfer
maven-assembly-plugin
maven-clean-plugin
maven-common-artifact-filters
maven-compiler-plugin
maven-dependency-analyzer
maven-dependency-plugin
maven-dependency-tree
maven-doxia
maven-doxia-sitetools
maven-enforcer
maven-file-management
maven-filtering
maven-invoker
maven-invoker-plugin
maven-jar-plugin
maven-mapping
maven-native
maven
maven-parent
maven-patch-plugin
maven-plugin-build-helper
maven-plugin-bundle
maven-plugin-testing
maven-plugin-tools
maven-remote-resources-plugin
maven-reporting-api
maven-reporting-impl
maven-resolver
maven-resources-plugin
maven-scm
maven-script-interpreter
maven-shade-plugin
maven-shared-incremental
maven-shared-io
maven-shared-utils
maven-source-plugin
maven-surefire
maven-verifier
maven-verifier-plugin
maven-wagon
miglayout
mockito
modello
mojo-executor
mojo-parent
munge-maven-plugin
mxparser
mysql-connector-java
naga
nekohtml
nom-tam-fits
objectweb-asm
objenesis
ongres-scram
ongres-stringprep
openas2
openjdk-asmtools
openstack-java-sdk
OpenStego
opentest4j
options
osgi-annotation
osgi-compendium
osgi-core
pcfi
pdfbox
pdftk-java
pentaho-libxml
pentaho-reporting-flow-engine
picocli
plantuml
plexus-active-collections
plexus-archiver
plexus-build-api
plexus-cipher
plexus-classworlds
plexus-compiler
plexus-component-api
plexus-components-pom
plexus-containers
plexus-i18n
plexus-interpolation
plexus-io
plexus-languages
plexus-pom
plexus-resources
plexus-sec-dispatcher
plexus-utils
plexus-velocity
pomchecker
portlet-2.0-api
postgresql-jdbc
procyon
proguard
prometheus-jmx-exporter
prometheus-simpleclient-java
py4j
python-javaobj
qdox
rachota
reflections
regexp
replacer
resteasy
rhino
rsyntaxtextarea
rundoc
sac
sat4j
sblim-cim-client2
sblim-cim-client
scalacheck
scala
scannotation
sequence-library
serp
shaman
sisu-mojos
sisu
slf4j
snakeyaml
snip
spec-version-maven-plugin
spice-parent
sqljet
stringtemplate4
string-template-maven-plugin
stringtemplate
svnkit
swing-layout
system-rules
taggle
tagsoup
t-digest
test-interface
testng
texlive
tomcatjss
tomcat
tomcat-taglibs-parent
treelayout
trilead-ssh2
truth
univocity-parsers
uom-parent
vecmath1.2
velocity
vim-syntastic
voms-api-java
voms-clients-java
weld-parent
ws-commons-util
wsdl4j
xalan-j2
xbean
xerces-j2
xjparse
xml-commons-apis
xml-commons-resolver
xmlgraphics-commons
xml-maven-plugin
xmlpull
xmlstreambuffer
xmltool
xmlunit
xmpcore
xmvn-connector-ivy
xmvn
xstream
xz-java
yuicompressor

direct arch-full java dependencies

abrt-java-connector
antlr3
antlr4-project
antlr
apron
arduino-listSerialPortsC
astyle
AusweisApp2
bigloo
bolzplatz2006
brltty
capstone
ceph
chromium
cocoalib
collectd
cryptlib
csound
cvc4
DecodeIR
diffoscope
dl_poly
dogtag-pki
eclipse-swt
erlang
erlang-corba
freewrl
frysk
gdal
gdl
genders
gnulib
graphviz
hdf5
hdf
healpix
hyperestraier
icecat
jansi
jansi-native
java-11-openjdk
java-17-openjdk
java-1.8.0-openjdk
java-gnome
jblas
jffi
jigawatts
jna
jni-inchi
jpcap
jpype
jss
jssc
kawa
kernel-tools
libbluray
libgda
libidn
libphidget
libreoffice
libsvm
libwebp
link-grammar
mapserver
mecab-java
mp
nailgun
ocaml-atd
octave
opencv
openjfx8
openjfx
openmpi
openni
pcl
pl
plplot
portmidi
ppl
protobuf
python-javabridge
python-jep
python-jnius
qdbm
R
rstudio
scalpel
sdljava
seqan2
seqan
Singular
sphinx
subversion
systemtap
tomcat-native
tuxguitar
tzdata
vtk
will-crash
writer2latex
z3
zbar

From those, subversion is handled separately: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2103909

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