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Check out our [[Architectures/PowerPC/CurrentDevelopment|current development efforts]] and join the Fedora for Power team on IRC in {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} on http://freenode.net
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= PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group =
 
= PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group =
* IRC: #fedora-ppc on irc.freenode.net
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* IRC: {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} on irc.freenode.net
* Mailing List: [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ppc fedora-ppc mailing list]
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* Mailing List: {{fplist|ppc}}
  
 
== Members ==
 
== Members ==
 
* Adrian Reber
 
* Adrian Reber
* [[KarstenHopp| Karsten Hopp]] (IBM Power 730 Express Server, PowerMac G5)
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* [[KarstenHopp| Karsten Hopp]] (IBM Power 730 Express Server)
* [[User:Jskala| Jiri Skala]]
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* [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] (IBM IntelliStation 275)
 
* [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] (IBM IntelliStation 275)
 
* [[User:dwa| David Aquilina]] (release engineer)
 
* [[User:dwa| David Aquilina]] (release engineer)
 
* Mark Hamzy
 
* Mark Hamzy
 
* Brent Baude
 
* Brent Baude
* Gustavo Luiz Duarte
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* [[User:Gustavold| Gustavo Luiz Duarte]]
  
 
== Meetings ==
 
== Meetings ==
* We don't schedule any IRC meetings, although starting at the Alpha phase of any release we'll try to find some time each day to discuss open issues on our #fedora-ppc channel on IRC .
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* We don't schedule any IRC meetings, although starting at the Alpha phase of any release we'll try to find some time each day to discuss open issues on our {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} channel on IRC .
* The next 'real' [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC/Meetings/FUDCon_Lawrence_2013 meeting] of the Fedora-PPC team is planned at the FUDcon 2013 in Lawrence, Kansas.  
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* The last 'real' [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC/Meetings/FUDCon_Lawrence_2013 meeting] of the Fedora-PPC team took place at the FUDcon 2013 in Lawrence, Kansas.
  
== Fedora 18 ==
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== Current Development ==
  
Fedora 18 for Power is currently in development. The schedule is following the one for primary as closely as possible [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/Schedule Fedora 18 schedule]. As usual we have architecture specific blocker tracking bugs open for Alpha, Beta and RC:
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[[Architectures/PowerPC/CurrentDevelopment]] tracks our current development efforts.
  
[https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F18Alphappc Fedora 18 PowerPC Alpha blocker tracker]
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Also see the [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/serverstatus dashboard] for constantly updated stats on when the most recent pushes were, number of unsigned packages, most important build failures, etc.
  
[https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F18Betappc Fedora 18 PowerPC Beta blocker tracker]
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== Stable Release, GPG keys ==
  
[https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F18Blockerppc Fedora 18 PowerPC RC blocker tracker]
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Fedora 20 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on December 19, 2013. Please see [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PowerPC/F20_PPC_release_announcement the release announcement] for additional details or download it from your closest [http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora-options#2nd_arches mirror].
  
The current nightly composes can be found here: [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/stage/f18-latest-nightly/ppc64/ F18 latest compose]
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Fedora for Power uses different GPG keys than the primary architectures. Check [https://fedoraproject.org/keys The official Fedora GPG key list] for a list of secondary arch keys.
  
=== Fedora 18 Final Checklists ===
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== Supported Architectures ==
  
[http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18FinalPPC_checklist Fedora 18 Final Checklist]
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Only 64bit machines (Power5 or newer) are supported, but we still provide 32bit packages. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore. Interested developers might also be able to create their own 32bit boot images for the latest Fedora release with pungi but this is also not supported by the Fedora PPC developers.
  
=== Fedora 18 Beta Checklists ===
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Fedora 18 and newer also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected.
  
[http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18BetaPPC_checklist Fedora 18 Beta Checklist]
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== Previous Releases ==
  
=== Fedora 18 Alpha Release notes ===
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You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at [[Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases]].
  
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_PPC_release_notes Fedora 18 Alpha PowerPC release notes]
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== Build System & Resources ==
  
=== Fedora 18 Alpha mirrors ===
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===Koji===  
 
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All official Fedora PowerPC packages are built by the koji build system at the
[https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/18-Alpha/ppc64/ Fedora 18 Alpha PowerPC mirrorlist]
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== Fedora 17 ==
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Fedora 17 for Power was announced on June 14th, 2012. Please see [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_PPC_release_notes the release notes] for additional details or download it from your closest [https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/17/ppc64/ mirror]. It has been most extensively tested on IBM Power systems, but is also known to work on Apple Mac G5 systems.
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== Fedora 16 ==
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'''Fedora 16 for PPC64''' was released Dec. 23th, 2011. It is available on several mirrors which are listed [https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/16/ppc64/ here].
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It is known to work on the new Power7 machines and on PowerMac G5 with > 1Gb RAM. Installations on machines with less RAM might work, but that is untested yet (feedback welcome).
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A fresh installation for F16 if you're currently using a pre-release is highly recommended so that you can verify that all reported and closed as fixed bugs have really been addressed in the final F16 release.
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If the installation fails, here is a [http://sharkcz.livejournal.com/8649.html HOWTO] for an install that requires you to have a system with an older RHEL or Fedora installation and that doesn't use the usual anaconda installer.
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On the mirrors are also install media and packages for [https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/16/ppc PPC (32bit)]
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Those are completely untested and any bugreports without patches attached that fix the issue will most likely be deferred atm as we're concentrating on 64bit as that's the only hardware that the developers currently have. We have to rely on the community to provide fixes for 32bit problems.
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If you want to help out with testing, please report any problems on [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC#PowerPC.2FPOWER_Special_Interest_Group IRC] or in [http://bugzilla.redhat.com bugzilla] (make sure to set the architecture to 'powerpc'). Feedback about installations on older hardware such as 32bit PowerMac G4 is appreciated, but as we're focusing on 64bit machines it might take some time to fix 32bit issues unless patches are attached to the bugreports.
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== Previous Fedora for Power releases ==
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The last Fedora release for PPC before F16 was Fedora 12 and can be found at http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/12/Fedora/ppc/iso/
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== Fedora rebuild efforts ==
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There are currently efforts ongoing to recompile all packages and prepare a F-17 release.
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This is the current [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/compare-f18.txt status of the package rebuild]:
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[[File:Ppc-statistics-f18.png]]
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=== Rebuild problems, TODO list ===
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- Eclipse and all the packages that depend on it aren't available yet. Work is in progress to bring Eclipse on the PowerPC platform.
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- yaboot is only available on 32bit PPC which means we currently need some hacks for 64bit boot images. This won't change as the PPC firmware seems to be 32bit only.
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In the long term yaboot is supposed to be replaced by grub2, at the moment it is still required to boot from DVD.
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- The Power7 optimized glibc package (glibc.ppc64p7) is currently broken and will render the system unusable as soon as it it installed.
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== The PowerPC koji build system ==
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All official Fedora PowerPC packages will be built by the koji build system at the
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[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji PowerPC koji hub]
 
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji PowerPC koji hub]
  
All non-scratch packages that haven't been deleted by the garbage-collector are available at the
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Everyone with a [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Get_a_Fedora_Account Fedora account] can do scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system. After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/ package storage], scratch builds can be found for a few days at the [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/scratch scratch repository]
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ppc-koji build --scratch f20 yourpkg.src.rpm
  
== Building packages on the PowerPC koji build system ==
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Scratch builds can be found [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/scratch/ here], and will be removed from koji automatically after a while.
  
Everyone with a [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Get_a_Fedora_Account Fedora account] can do at least scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system, [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers package maintainers] who can check changes into the git repositories can build updated packages that will later on end up in the distribution.
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For a build to end up in the final Fedora for Power distribution, that NVR must have been built on the primary Fedora koji and then pushed as an update for that release. koji-shadow is used by Fedora for Power to track both the stable (e.g. 'f20' during f20 branched development and 'f20-updates' after GA) and updates-testing tags of each release, as well as the current rawhide tag. Please feel free to find [[user:dwa|dwa]] or [[user:karsten|Kick_]] on the #fedora-ppc IRC channel if you have questions about the koji-shadow process.
  
=== Doing scratch builds ===
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=== PPC Shell access for debugging ===
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[[user:baude|Bret Baude]] ([[fas:baude|rangerpb]]) or [[user:karsten|Karsten Hopp]] ([[fas:karsten|Kick_]]) may provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send them an e-mail with an request and a public SSH key.
  
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== Bugzilla ==
ppc-koji build --scratch f17 yourpkg.src.rpm
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These builds will be removed from koji automatically after a while.
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'Real' builds will be pulled into the package repositories and into the install images, unless they got replaced by later versions.
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ppc-koji build f17 "$(fedpkg giturl)"
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fedpkg build --target=f17
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(this works only when you have a symlink from ~/.koji/ppc-config to ~/.koji/config)
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(currently broken: [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785776 bugzilla 787776] )
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== PPC Shell access for debugging ==
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[[user:dwmw2|David Woodhouse]] ([[fas:dwmw2|dwmw2]]), [[user:jwboyer|Josh Boyer]] ([[fas:jwboyer|jwb]]) or [[user:karsten|Karsten Hopp]] ([[fas:karsten|Kick_]]) may provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send them an e-mail with an request and a public SSH key.
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== Documentation ==
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== Work needed ==
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* [[Architectures/PowerPC/GRUB2|GRUB2]]
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=== Bugzilla ===
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* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&rep_platform=powerpc&rep_platform=ppc64&rep_platform=ppc&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&product=Fedora&classification=Fedora List of currently open PowerPC bugs]
 
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&rep_platform=powerpc&rep_platform=ppc64&rep_platform=ppc&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&product=Fedora&classification=Fedora List of currently open PowerPC bugs]
 
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 ExcludeArch for PowerPC]
 
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 ExcludeArch for PowerPC]
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* [[Architectures/BuildIssues|Power & s390x build issues]]
  
=== [[Architectures/BuildIssues|Known build issues]] ===
 
 
== ppc64p7 subarch ==
 
 
* [[ppc64p7subarch]]
 
  
 
== Links ==
 
== Links ==
* [http://www.ibm.com/chips/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
 
 
* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
 
* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
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* [http://www.ibm.com/systems/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
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* [https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home/wiki/W51a7ffcf4dfd_4b40_9d82_446ebc23c550?lang=en The PowerLinux Community Wiki] <BR>
 
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
 
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
* [http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/ YellowDogLinux support pages] <BR>
 
 
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
 
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
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* [http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/liaae/lcon_Installing_Linux_on_System_p5.htm Installation docs] for IBM Power hardware <BR>
  
  
 
[[Category:Arch-specific SIGs]][[Category:SIGs]]
 
[[Category:Arch-specific SIGs]][[Category:SIGs]]
 
[[Category:Fedora special-interest groups|PowerPC]]
 
[[Category:Fedora special-interest groups|PowerPC]]

Latest revision as of 17:54, 23 February 2014

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Getting Started with Fedora for Power::
Check out our current development efforts and join the Fedora for Power team on IRC in #fedora-ppc[?] on http://freenode.net

Contents

[edit] PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group

[edit] Members

[edit] Meetings

  • We don't schedule any IRC meetings, although starting at the Alpha phase of any release we'll try to find some time each day to discuss open issues on our #fedora-ppc[?] channel on IRC .
  • The last 'real' meeting of the Fedora-PPC team took place at the FUDcon 2013 in Lawrence, Kansas.

[edit] Current Development

Architectures/PowerPC/CurrentDevelopment tracks our current development efforts.

Also see the dashboard for constantly updated stats on when the most recent pushes were, number of unsigned packages, most important build failures, etc.

[edit] Stable Release, GPG keys

Fedora 20 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on December 19, 2013. Please see the release announcement for additional details or download it from your closest mirror.

Fedora for Power uses different GPG keys than the primary architectures. Check The official Fedora GPG key list for a list of secondary arch keys.

[edit] Supported Architectures

Only 64bit machines (Power5 or newer) are supported, but we still provide 32bit packages. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore. Interested developers might also be able to create their own 32bit boot images for the latest Fedora release with pungi but this is also not supported by the Fedora PPC developers.

Fedora 18 and newer also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected.

[edit] Previous Releases

You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases.

[edit] Build System & Resources

[edit] Koji

All official Fedora PowerPC packages are built by the koji build system at the PowerPC koji hub

Everyone with a Fedora account can do scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system. After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm

ppc-koji build --scratch f20 yourpkg.src.rpm

Scratch builds can be found here, and will be removed from koji automatically after a while.

For a build to end up in the final Fedora for Power distribution, that NVR must have been built on the primary Fedora koji and then pushed as an update for that release. koji-shadow is used by Fedora for Power to track both the stable (e.g. 'f20' during f20 branched development and 'f20-updates' after GA) and updates-testing tags of each release, as well as the current rawhide tag. Please feel free to find dwa or Kick_ on the #fedora-ppc IRC channel if you have questions about the koji-shadow process.

[edit] PPC Shell access for debugging

Bret Baude (rangerpb) or Karsten Hopp (Kick_) may provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send them an e-mail with an request and a public SSH key.

[edit] Bugzilla


[edit] Links