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= PowerPC/POWER/Cell Special Interest Group =
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= PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group =
* IRC: {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} on irc.freenode.net
* Mailing List: {{fplist|ppc}}


== Members ==
== Members ==
* [[IgnacioVazquezAbrams| Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]] <BR>
* [[KarstenHopp| Karsten Hopp]] (IBM Power 730 Express Server)
* [[PaulNasrat| Paul Nasrat]] <BR>
* [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] (IBM IntelliStation 275)
* [[PeterLemenkov| Peter Lemenkov]] <BR>
* [[User:than| Than Ngo]]
* [[StefanPosdzich|Stefan Posdzich]] (using a Playstation 3 with Fedora 9) <BR>
* Mark Hamzy
* [[WalterJusten| Walter Justen]]
* Brent Baude
* Adrian Reber
* [[User:Gustavold| Gustavo Luiz Duarte]]
* [[KarstenHopp| Karsten Hopp]] (PowerMac G5)
* [[User:menantea| Guy Menanteau]]
* [[User:Jskala| Jiri Skala]]
 
== Latest PPC Fedora release ==


Latest Fedora release for PPC is currently Fedora 12 and can be found from http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/12/Fedora/ppc/iso/
== Meetings ==
* We don't schedule any IRC meetings, although starting at the Alpha phase of any release we'll try to find some time each day to discuss open issues on our {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} channel on IRC .
* The last 'real' [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC/Meetings/FUDCon_Lawrence_2013 meeting] of the Fedora-PPC team took place at the FUDcon 2013 in Lawrence, Kansas.


== Fedora rebuild efforts ==
== Current Development ==
There are currently efforts ongoing to recompile all packages and prepare a F-15 release or if we find out that we are too far behind the primary archs to have a F-16 release. This is the current status of the package rebuild:
[[File:Ppc-statistics.png]]


=== Rebuild problems, TODO list ===
[[Architectures/PowerPC/CurrentDevelopment]] tracks our current development efforts.
- The Haskell Compiler (ghc) is not available yet on PPC64. Jiri Skala is working on that


- yaboot only available on PPC which means we currently need some hacks for 64bit boot images
Also see the [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/serverstatus dashboard] for constantly updated stats on when the most recent pushes were, number of unsigned packages, most important build failures, etc.


- The latest yaboot doesn't compile anymore, [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=689415 bugzilla #689415]
== Stable Release, GPG keys ==  


Fedora 23 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on November 3, 2015. Please see [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2015-November/003294.html the release announcement] for additional details or download it from your closest [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/mirrors/Fedora/23/ppc64 mirror].


== The PowerPC koji build system ==
Fedora for Power uses different GPG keys than the primary architectures. Check [https://fedoraproject.org/keys The official Fedora GPG key list] for a list of secondary arch keys.


All official Fedora PowerPC packages will be built by the koji build system at the
=== Release Notes ===
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji PowerPC koji hub]
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/24|Fedora 24]]


All non-scratch packages that haven't been deleted by the garbage-collector are available at the
== Supported Architectures ==
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/mnt/koji/packages/ package storage], scratch builds can be found for a few days at the [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/mnt/koji/scratch scratch repository]


== Building packages on the PowerPC koji build system ==
Only 64bit machines (big endian Power5 or newer and little endian Power8 or newer) are supported, 32bit packages are not available anymore in F22 or newer. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest F21 packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore.


Everyone with a [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Get_a_Fedora_Account Fedora account] can do at least scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system, [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers package maintainers] who can check changes into the git repositories can build updated packages that will later on end up in the distribution.
Fedora 18 and newer also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected.


=== Doing scratch builds ===
== Previous Releases ==


After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm
You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at [[Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases]].  
ppc-koji build --scratch dist-f15 yourpkg.src.rpm
These builds will be removed from koji automatically after a while.


=== 'real' builds ===
== Build System & Resources ==


'Real' builds will be pulled into the package repositories and into the install images, unless they got replaced by later versions.
===Koji===  
After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm
All official Fedora PowerPC packages are built by the koji build system at the
ppc-koji build dist-f15 "$(fedpkg giturl)"
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji PowerPC koji hub]
or
fedpkg build --target=dist-f15
 
== PPC Shell access for debugging ==
[[user:dwmw2|David Woodhouse]] ([[fas:dwmw2|dwmw2]]) and [[user:jwboyer|Josh Boyer]] ([[fas:jwboyer|jwboyer]]) may provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send them an e-mail with an request and a public SSH key.
 
== Applications/Libraries of Interest ==
* [http://mac-on-linux.sourceforge.net/ Mac-on-Linux] - virtualization solution for PowerPC


== Documentation ==
Everyone with a [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Get_a_Fedora_Account Fedora account] can do scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system. After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm
ppc-koji build --scratch f20 yourpkg.src.rpm


=== PowerPC Hardware ===
Scratch builds can be found [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/scratch/ here], and will be removed from koji automatically after a while.
==== [[ApplePowerPC]] ====


==== [[PlayStation]] ====
For a build to end up in the final Fedora for Power distribution, that NVR must have been built on the primary Fedora koji and then pushed as an update for that release. koji-shadow is used by Fedora for Power to track both the stable (e.g. 'f20' during f20 branched development and 'f20-updates' after GA) and updates-testing tags of each release, as well as the current rawhide tag. Please feel free to find [[user:dwa|dwa]] or [[user:karsten|Kick_]] on the #fedora-ppc IRC channel if you have questions about the koji-shadow process.


== Work needed ==
=== PPC Shell access for debugging ===
[[user:baude|Brent Baude]] ([[fas:baude|rangerpb]]) or [[user:karsten|Karsten Hopp]] ([[fas:karsten|Kick_]]) may provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send them an e-mail with an request and a public SSH key.


=== Bugzilla ===
== Bugzilla ==


* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&rep_platform=powerpc List of currently open PowerPC bugs]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&rep_platform=powerpc&rep_platform=ppc64&rep_platform=ppc&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&product=Fedora&classification=Fedora List of currently open PowerPC bugs]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 ExcludeArch for PowerPC]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 ExcludeArch for PowerPC]
 
* [[Architectures/BuildIssues|Power & s390x build issues]]  
=== Documentation ===
 
* We need step-by-step tutorials describing HOWTO setup Wi-Fi, Apple Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard, where to find JRE and so on. See the next links (from Ubuntu, Debian and YellowDog):
** [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224673 HOWTO: Apple Wireless Keyboard (Bluetooth)]
** [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ PowerPC FAQ]  
** [http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/snd-aoa Notes abount snd-aoa kernel module]  




== Links ==
== Links ==
* [http://www.ibm.com/chips/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
* [http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/PPC-hub-serverstatus|Special files and configuration on the PPC hub]]
* [http://www.ibm.com/systems/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
* [https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home/wiki/W51a7ffcf4dfd_4b40_9d82_446ebc23c550?lang=en The PowerLinux Community Wiki] <BR>
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
* [http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/ YellowDogLinux support pages] <BR>
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
* [http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/liaae/lcon_Installing_Linux_on_System_p5.htm Installation docs] for IBM Power hardware <BR>




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Getting Started with Fedora for Power::
Check out our current development efforts and join the Fedora for Power team on IRC in #fedora-ppc[?] on http://freenode.net

PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group

Members

Meetings

  • We don't schedule any IRC meetings, although starting at the Alpha phase of any release we'll try to find some time each day to discuss open issues on our #fedora-ppc[?] channel on IRC .
  • The last 'real' meeting of the Fedora-PPC team took place at the FUDcon 2013 in Lawrence, Kansas.

Current Development

Architectures/PowerPC/CurrentDevelopment tracks our current development efforts.

Also see the dashboard for constantly updated stats on when the most recent pushes were, number of unsigned packages, most important build failures, etc.

Stable Release, GPG keys

Fedora 23 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on November 3, 2015. Please see the release announcement for additional details or download it from your closest mirror.

Fedora for Power uses different GPG keys than the primary architectures. Check The official Fedora GPG key list for a list of secondary arch keys.

Release Notes

Supported Architectures

Only 64bit machines (big endian Power5 or newer and little endian Power8 or newer) are supported, 32bit packages are not available anymore in F22 or newer. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest F21 packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore.

Fedora 18 and newer also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected.

Previous Releases

You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases.

Build System & Resources

Koji

All official Fedora PowerPC packages are built by the koji build system at the PowerPC koji hub

Everyone with a Fedora account can do scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system. After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm

ppc-koji build --scratch f20 yourpkg.src.rpm

Scratch builds can be found here, and will be removed from koji automatically after a while.

For a build to end up in the final Fedora for Power distribution, that NVR must have been built on the primary Fedora koji and then pushed as an update for that release. koji-shadow is used by Fedora for Power to track both the stable (e.g. 'f20' during f20 branched development and 'f20-updates' after GA) and updates-testing tags of each release, as well as the current rawhide tag. Please feel free to find dwa or Kick_ on the #fedora-ppc IRC channel if you have questions about the koji-shadow process.

PPC Shell access for debugging

Brent Baude (rangerpb) or Karsten Hopp (Kick_) may provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send them an e-mail with an request and a public SSH key.

Bugzilla


Links