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= PowerPC/POWER/Cell Special Interest Group =
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= PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group =
* IRC: {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} on irc.freenode.net
* Mailing List: {{fplist|ppc}}


== Members ==
== Members ==
* [[IgnacioVazquezAbrams| Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]] <BR>
* [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] (IBM IntelliStation 275)
* [[PaulNasrat| Paul Nasrat]] <BR>
* [[User:than| Than Ngo]]
* [[PeterLemenkov| Peter Lemenkov]] <BR>
* Mark Hamzy
* [[StefanPosdzich|Stefan Posdzich]] (using a Playstation 3 with Fedora 9)
* Mike Wolf
* [[User:Gustavold| Gustavo Luiz Duarte]]
* [[User:menantea| Guy Menanteau]]
* [[User:Michelmno| Michel Normand]]
* [[User:sinnykumari| Sinny Kumari]]


== Stable Release, GPG keys ==


== Applications/Libraries of Interest ==
Fedora 25 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on November 22, 2016. Please see [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/FG5BBVWKJBRZUDGN7RXPFVLHLWELWF3P/ the release announcement] for additional details or download it directly from [https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ here].
* [http://mac-on-linux.sourceforge.net/ Mac-on-Linux] - virtualization solution for PowerPC


== Documentation ==
Fedora for Power uses different GPG keys than the primary architectures. Check [https://fedoraproject.org/keys The official Fedora GPG key list] for a list of secondary arch keys.


=== Fedora on Apple PPC hardware ===
=== Release Notes ===


==== Hardware info ====
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/26|Fedora 26]]
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/25|Fedora 25]]
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/24|Fedora 24]]


===== iBook G4 =====
== Supported Architectures ==


==== Dual booting with OS X ====
Only 64bit machines (big endian Power5 or newer and little endian Power8 or newer) are supported, 32bit packages are not available anymore in F22 or newer. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest F21 packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore.


==== Installing Fedora ====
Fedora 18 through Fedora 23 also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected.  The focus for Fedora 24 and newer is on Power8 or newer hardware and the optimizations for these CPU types are handled through a different mechanism.


==== Wireless networking ====
Fedora 25 able to be installed also on Mac G5 machine as per https://github.com/masterzorag/G5_ppc64-linux


===== Broadcom BC43xx chipset=====
Due the limited resource and clear preference of the ppc64le architecture in any new developments, it was decided that ppc64 architecture will transfer into a maintenance mode where the new features (eg. Atomic Host compose) we plan for ppc64le won't be added, see  [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ppc@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/C23EQYITA4DQWM7CQF6LJC5ABXY2XIEM/ email] for details.


== Work needed ==
== Previous Releases ==


=== Bugzilla ===
You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at [[Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases]].


* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=219540 #219540] Game Glest not playable at PPC-arch
== Build System & Resources ==
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=239713 #239713] bootstrap ghc on ppc64
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453311 #453311] pulseaudio does not start


Someone who interested should also watch [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 #179260]
===Koji===


=== Documentation ===
====F25 or previous releases====
Till F25, all official Fedora PowerPC packages are built by the koji build system at the
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji PowerPC koji hub]
Everyone with a [[Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Get_a_Fedora_Account|Fedora account]] can do scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system. After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm
ppc-koji build --scratch f20 yourpkg.src.rpm


* We need step-by-step tutorials describing HOWTO setup Wi-Fi, Apple Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard, where to find JRE and so on. See the next links (from Ubuntu, Debian and YellowDog):
Scratch builds can be found [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/scratch/ here], and will be removed from koji automatically after a while.
** [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224673 HOWTO: Apple Wireless Keyboard (Bluetooth)]
 
** [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ PowerPC FAQ]  
For a build to end up in the final Fedora for Power distribution, that NVR must have been built on the primary Fedora koji and then pushed as an update for that release. koji-shadow is used by Fedora for Power to track both the stable (e.g. 'f20' during f20 branched development and 'f20-updates' after GA) and updates-testing tags of each release, as well as the current rawhide tag. Please feel free to find [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] on the #fedora-ppc IRC channel if you have questions about the koji-shadow process.
** [http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/snd-aoa Notes abount snd-aoa kernel module]  
 
====Rawhide====
On October 29, 2016 announcement was made to [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/SBQOANIUYRRRJGK3BNN5WOYERMEVTD5V/ merge ppc64(le)] koji builds of packages with [http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ primary koji].
 
To make a scratch build of package for ppc64 and ppc64le in Fedora rawhide, run:
  koji build --scratch --arch-override=ppc64,ppc64le rawhide yourpkg.src.rpm
 
=== PPC Shell access for debugging ===
[[user:sharkcz|Dan Horák ]] ([[fas:sharkcz|sharkcz]]) can provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send him an e-mail with a request and a public SSH key.
fedora-infra team is also working on providing easier access to a PowerPC VM for debugging build issues. Once we have it ready, we will update this section.
 
== Bugzilla ==
 
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&rep_platform=powerpc&rep_platform=ppc64&rep_platform=ppc&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&product=Fedora&classification=Fedora List of currently open PowerPC bugs]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 ExcludeArch for PowerPC]
* [[Architectures/BuildIssues|Power & s390x build issues]]  




== Links ==
== Links ==
* [http://www.ibm.com/chips/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
* [http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/PPC-hub-serverstatus|Special files and configuration on the PPC hub]]
* [http://www.ibm.com/systems/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
* [https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home/wiki/W51a7ffcf4dfd_4b40_9d82_446ebc23c550?lang=en The PowerLinux Community Wiki] <BR>
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
* [http://www.ppczone.org/ PPCZone] <BR>
* [http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/ YellowDogLinux support pages] <BR>
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
* [http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/liaae/lcon_Installing_Linux_on_System_p5.htm Installation docs] for IBM Power hardware <BR>




== See also ==
[[Category:Arch-specific SIGs]][[Category:SIGs]]
* [[PlayStation]]
[[Category:Fedora special-interest groups|PowerPC]]
 
[[Category:Arch-specific SIGs]]

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Getting Started with Fedora for Power::
Check out our current development efforts and join the Fedora for Power team on IRC in #fedora-ppc[?] on http://freenode.net

PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group

Members

Stable Release, GPG keys

Fedora 25 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on November 22, 2016. Please see the release announcement for additional details or download it directly from here.

Fedora for Power uses different GPG keys than the primary architectures. Check The official Fedora GPG key list for a list of secondary arch keys.

Release Notes

Supported Architectures

Only 64bit machines (big endian Power5 or newer and little endian Power8 or newer) are supported, 32bit packages are not available anymore in F22 or newer. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest F21 packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore.

Fedora 18 through Fedora 23 also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected. The focus for Fedora 24 and newer is on Power8 or newer hardware and the optimizations for these CPU types are handled through a different mechanism.

Fedora 25 able to be installed also on Mac G5 machine as per https://github.com/masterzorag/G5_ppc64-linux

Due the limited resource and clear preference of the ppc64le architecture in any new developments, it was decided that ppc64 architecture will transfer into a maintenance mode where the new features (eg. Atomic Host compose) we plan for ppc64le won't be added, see email for details.

Previous Releases

You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases.

Build System & Resources

Koji

F25 or previous releases

Till F25, all official Fedora PowerPC packages are built by the koji build system at the PowerPC koji hub Everyone with a Fedora account can do scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system. After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm

ppc-koji build --scratch f20 yourpkg.src.rpm

Scratch builds can be found here, and will be removed from koji automatically after a while.

For a build to end up in the final Fedora for Power distribution, that NVR must have been built on the primary Fedora koji and then pushed as an update for that release. koji-shadow is used by Fedora for Power to track both the stable (e.g. 'f20' during f20 branched development and 'f20-updates' after GA) and updates-testing tags of each release, as well as the current rawhide tag. Please feel free to find Dan Horák on the #fedora-ppc IRC channel if you have questions about the koji-shadow process.

Rawhide

On October 29, 2016 announcement was made to merge ppc64(le) koji builds of packages with primary koji.

To make a scratch build of package for ppc64 and ppc64le in Fedora rawhide, run:

  koji build --scratch --arch-override=ppc64,ppc64le rawhide yourpkg.src.rpm

PPC Shell access for debugging

Dan Horák (sharkcz) can provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send him an e-mail with a request and a public SSH key. fedora-infra team is also working on providing easier access to a PowerPC VM for debugging build issues. Once we have it ready, we will update this section.

Bugzilla


Links