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= PowerPC/POWER/Cell Special Interest Group =
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== Members ==
Check out our [[Architectures/PowerPC/CurrentDevelopment|current development efforts]] and join the Fedora for Power team on IRC in {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} on http://freenode.net
* [[IgnacioVazquezAbrams| Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]] <BR>
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* [[PaulNasrat| Paul Nasrat]] <BR>
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* [[PeterLemenkov| Peter Lemenkov]] <BR>
* [[StefanPosdzich|Stefan Posdzich]] (using a Playstation 3 with Fedora 9)


= PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group =
* IRC: {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} on irc.freenode.net
* Mailing List: {{fplist|ppc}}


== Applications/Libraries of Interest ==
== Members ==
* [http://mac-on-linux.sourceforge.net/ Mac-on-Linux] - virtualization solution for PowerPC
* [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] (IBM IntelliStation 275)
* [[User:than| Than Ngo]]
* Mark Hamzy
* Mike Wolf
* [[User:Gustavold| Gustavo Luiz Duarte]]
* [[User:menantea| Guy Menanteau]]
* [[User:Michelmno| Michel Normand]]
* [[User:sinnykumari| Sinny Kumari]]


== Documentation ==
== Stable Release, GPG keys ==  


=== Fedora on Apple PPC hardware ===
Fedora 25 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on November 22, 2016. Please see [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/FG5BBVWKJBRZUDGN7RXPFVLHLWELWF3P/ the release announcement] for additional details or download it directly from [https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ here].


==== iBook G4 Hardware info: ====
Fedora for Power uses different GPG keys than the primary architectures. Check [https://fedoraproject.org/keys The official Fedora GPG key list] for a list of secondary arch keys.


iBook G4/1.33GHz 12-Inch (Mid-2005)
=== Release Notes ===


:*1.33 GHz PowerPC 7447a (G4) processor with 64k L1 cache
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/26|Fedora 26]]
:*512k "on chip" level 2 cache.
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/25|Fedora 25]]
:*512 MB of onboard RAM (PC2700 DDR SDRAM).
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/24|Fedora 24]]
:*40 GB (4200 RPM) Ultra ATA/100 hard drive.
:*Slot-loading DVD-ROM/CD-RW "Combo" drive.
:*4X AGP ATI Mobility Radeon 9550 graphics with 32 MB of DDR SDRAM.
:*A standard AirPort Extreme (802.11g) - Broadcom BCM4318 chipset.
:*Bluetooth 2.0+EDR.
:*56k v.92 standard modem
:*50 W/Hr LiIon battery (Stated 6 hour lifetime)
:*12.1" TFT XGA active matrix display (1024x768 native resolution).
:*"Sudden Motion Sensor" technology that stops the hard drive heads from moving if the notebook is dropped.
:*"Scrolling Trackpad" that allows one to scroll or pan by touching the trackpad with two fingers instead of one.


==== Dual booting with OS X ====
== Supported Architectures ==


*Install OS X first.
Only 64bit machines (big endian Power5 or newer and little endian Power8 or newer) are supported, 32bit packages are not available anymore in F22 or newer. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest F21 packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore.  


:#Boot from your OS X install CD but before the installation starts, load the disk utility from the top menu.  
Fedora 18 through Fedora 23 also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected. The focus for Fedora 24 and newer is on Power8 or newer hardware and the optimizations for these CPU types are handled through a different mechanism.
:#Here you can partion your drive. Partition the drive in two, one as MAC filesystem (for OS X) and one as free space, leave the MBR as the default MAC option.
:#Once OS X is installed grab any updates and set the date/time.
:#You are now ready to go ahead with installing Fedora


{{Admon/tip | Setting the date and time in OS X will mean the date is right in Fedora from the point of install.}}
Fedora 25 able to be installed also on Mac G5 machine as per https://github.com/masterzorag/G5_ppc64-linux


==== Installing Fedora ====
Due the limited resource and clear preference of the ppc64le architecture in any new developments, it was decided that ppc64 architecture will transfer into a maintenance mode where the new features (eg. Atomic Host compose) we plan for ppc64le won't be added, see  [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ppc@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/C23EQYITA4DQWM7CQF6LJC5ABXY2XIEM/ email] for details.


*Turn on your Apple, insert the Fedora install media and boot from the CD/DVD by holding down the 'c' key as soon as you hear the Apple chime.
== Previous Releases ==


{{Admon/warning | Note | There seems to be a bug in the Fedora 9 installer. Caps lock may be on when the light is not. Check at the screen where you can enter your host name.}}
You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at [[Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases]].  


:# If you are dual booting, when you get to the partitioning page, select the option which will set up the free space on your hard drive for Fedora, leaving your MAC partition alone.
== Build System & Resources ==


==== Wireless networking ====
===Koji===  


===== Broadcom BC43xx chipset=====
====F25 or previous releases====
Till F25, all official Fedora PowerPC packages are built by the koji build system at the
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji PowerPC koji hub]
Everyone with a [[Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Get_a_Fedora_Account|Fedora account]] can do scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system. After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm
ppc-koji build --scratch f20 yourpkg.src.rpm


This chipset uses the 'b43' drivers contained in the kernel. For a comprehensive list of supported chipset versions and more info, check the link at the bottom of the page to linuxwireless.org. Although the 'b43' driver is open source, a proprietary piece of firmware is required in order get this wireless chipset to function.
Scratch builds can be found [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/scratch/ here], and will be removed from koji automatically after a while.


{{Admon/warning | Note | This guide assumes you are using kernel version 2.6.25 or newer (Fedora 9 and above).}}
For a build to end up in the final Fedora for Power distribution, that NVR must have been built on the primary Fedora koji and then pushed as an update for that release. koji-shadow is used by Fedora for Power to track both the stable (e.g. 'f20' during f20 branched development and 'f20-updates' after GA) and updates-testing tags of each release, as well as the current rawhide tag. Please feel free to find [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] on the #fedora-ppc IRC channel if you have questions about the koji-shadow process.


*Download the firmware:  
====Rawhide====
On October 29, 2016 announcement was made to [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/SBQOANIUYRRRJGK3BNN5WOYERMEVTD5V/ merge ppc64(le)] koji builds of packages with [http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ primary koji].


<pre>
To make a scratch build of package for ppc64 and ppc64le in Fedora rawhide, run:
$ wget http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
  koji build --scratch --arch-override=ppc64,ppc64le rawhide yourpkg.src.rpm
</pre>


*Extract the firmware:
=== PPC Shell access for debugging ===
[[user:sharkcz|Dan Horák ]] ([[fas:sharkcz|sharkcz]]) can provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send him an e-mail with a request and a public SSH key.
fedora-infra team is also working on providing easier access to a PowerPC VM for debugging build issues. Once we have it ready, we will update this section.


<pre>
== Bugzilla ==
$ tar xjf broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
</pre>


*Set a temporary environment variable:
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&rep_platform=powerpc&rep_platform=ppc64&rep_platform=ppc&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&product=Fedora&classification=Fedora List of currently open PowerPC bugs]
 
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 ExcludeArch for PowerPC]
<pre>
* [[Architectures/BuildIssues|Power & s390x build issues]]  
# export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
</pre>
 
*Use the 'b43-fwcutter-011' tool to extract the firmware to your Fedora system:
 
<pre>
# b43-fwcutter-011/b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" wl_apsta_mimo.o
</pre>
 
*Load the 'b43' module to make sure you get no errors:
 
<pre>
# modprobe b43
</pre>
 
*Reboot (restarting the network manager might work too). Now the network manager should display any nearby wireless networks!
 
==== Useful links ====
 
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers
 
== Work needed ==
 
=== Bugzilla ===
 
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=219540 #219540] Game Glest not playable at PPC-arch
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=239713 #239713] bootstrap ghc on ppc64
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453311 #453311] pulseaudio does not start
 
Someone who interested should also watch [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 #179260]  
 
=== Documentation ===
 
* We need step-by-step tutorials describing HOWTO setup Wi-Fi, Apple Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard, where to find JRE and so on. See the next links (from Ubuntu, Debian and YellowDog):
** [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224673 HOWTO: Apple Wireless Keyboard (Bluetooth)]
** [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ PowerPC FAQ]  
** [http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/snd-aoa Notes abount snd-aoa kernel module]  




== Links ==
== Links ==
* [http://www.ibm.com/chips/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
* [http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/PPC-hub-serverstatus|Special files and configuration on the PPC hub]]
* [http://www.ibm.com/systems/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
* [https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home/wiki/W51a7ffcf4dfd_4b40_9d82_446ebc23c550?lang=en The PowerLinux Community Wiki] <BR>
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
* [http://www.ppczone.org/ PPCZone] <BR>
* [http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/ YellowDogLinux support pages] <BR>
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
* [http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/liaae/lcon_Installing_Linux_on_System_p5.htm Installation docs] for IBM Power hardware <BR>




== See also ==
[[Category:Arch-specific SIGs]][[Category:SIGs]]
* [[PlayStation]]
[[Category:Fedora special-interest groups|PowerPC]]
 
[[Category:Arch-specific SIGs]]

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Getting Started with Fedora for Power::
Check out our current development efforts and join the Fedora for Power team on IRC in #fedora-ppc[?] on http://freenode.net

PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group

Members

Stable Release, GPG keys

Fedora 25 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on November 22, 2016. Please see the release announcement for additional details or download it directly from here.

Fedora for Power uses different GPG keys than the primary architectures. Check The official Fedora GPG key list for a list of secondary arch keys.

Release Notes

Supported Architectures

Only 64bit machines (big endian Power5 or newer and little endian Power8 or newer) are supported, 32bit packages are not available anymore in F22 or newer. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest F21 packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore.

Fedora 18 through Fedora 23 also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected. The focus for Fedora 24 and newer is on Power8 or newer hardware and the optimizations for these CPU types are handled through a different mechanism.

Fedora 25 able to be installed also on Mac G5 machine as per https://github.com/masterzorag/G5_ppc64-linux

Due the limited resource and clear preference of the ppc64le architecture in any new developments, it was decided that ppc64 architecture will transfer into a maintenance mode where the new features (eg. Atomic Host compose) we plan for ppc64le won't be added, see email for details.

Previous Releases

You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases.

Build System & Resources

Koji

F25 or previous releases

Till F25, all official Fedora PowerPC packages are built by the koji build system at the PowerPC koji hub Everyone with a Fedora account can do scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system. After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm

ppc-koji build --scratch f20 yourpkg.src.rpm

Scratch builds can be found here, and will be removed from koji automatically after a while.

For a build to end up in the final Fedora for Power distribution, that NVR must have been built on the primary Fedora koji and then pushed as an update for that release. koji-shadow is used by Fedora for Power to track both the stable (e.g. 'f20' during f20 branched development and 'f20-updates' after GA) and updates-testing tags of each release, as well as the current rawhide tag. Please feel free to find Dan Horák on the #fedora-ppc IRC channel if you have questions about the koji-shadow process.

Rawhide

On October 29, 2016 announcement was made to merge ppc64(le) koji builds of packages with primary koji.

To make a scratch build of package for ppc64 and ppc64le in Fedora rawhide, run:

  koji build --scratch --arch-override=ppc64,ppc64le rawhide yourpkg.src.rpm

PPC Shell access for debugging

Dan Horák (sharkcz) can provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send him an e-mail with a request and a public SSH key. fedora-infra team is also working on providing easier access to a PowerPC VM for debugging build issues. Once we have it ready, we will update this section.

Bugzilla


Links