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= PowerPC/POWER/Cell Special Interest Group =
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* IRC: #fedora-ppc on irc.freenode.net
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* Mailing List: [http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc fedora-ppc mailing list]
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Check out our [[Architectures/PowerPC/CurrentDevelopment|current development efforts]] and join the Fedora for Power team on IRC in {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} on http://freenode.net
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= PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group =
* IRC: {{fpchat|#fedora-ppc}} on irc.freenode.net
* Mailing List: {{fplist|ppc}}


== Members ==
== Members ==
* [[IgnacioVazquezAbrams| Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]] <BR>
* [[PaulNasrat| Paul Nasrat]] <BR>
* [[PeterLemenkov| Peter Lemenkov]] <BR>
* [[StefanPosdzich|Stefan Posdzich]] (using a Playstation 3 with Fedora 9) <BR>
* [[WalterJusten| Walter Justen]]
* Adrian Reber
* [[KarstenHopp| Karsten Hopp]] (PowerMac G5)
* [[User:Jskala| Jiri Skala]]
* [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] (IBM IntelliStation 275)
* [[User:sharkcz| Dan Horák]] (IBM IntelliStation 275)
* [[User:than| Than Ngo]]
* Mark Hamzy
* Mike Wolf
* [[User:Gustavold| Gustavo Luiz Duarte]]
* [[User:menantea| Guy Menanteau]]
* [[User:Michelmno| Michel Normand]]
* [[User:sinnykumari| Sinny Kumari]]


== Latest PPC Fedora release ==
== Stable Release, GPG keys ==  
 
Latest Fedora release for PPC is currently Fedora 12 and can be found from http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/12/Fedora/ppc/iso/
 
 
We're doing composes of the F-15 packages and create bootable DVD isos.
Repositories with the latest packages can be found on [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/mnt/koji/mash/15/ our koji hub], the DVD images are currently available in a [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/mnt/koji/scratch/karsten/iso/ temporary location]. Don't expect to be able to install with these DVD isos yet, we're still in the development/debugging phase and they might or might not work for you. If you want to help out with testing, report any problems with the DVD images on [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC#PowerPC.2FPOWER.2FCell_Special_Interest_Group IRC] or in [http://bugzilla.redhat.com bugzilla] (make sure to set the architecture to 'powerpc')
 
== Fedora rebuild efforts ==
There are currently efforts ongoing to recompile all packages and prepare a F-15 release or if we find out that we are too far behind the primary archs to have a F-16 release. This is the current status of the package rebuild:
[[File:Ppc-statistics.png]]
 
=== Rebuild problems, TODO list ===
- The most urgent problem at the moment is to get the latest version installable (maybe even with some workarounds for problems) so that the installer and bootloader teams can pick up the work. <br>
There's a [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=689468 kernel problem] that prevents us from even starting on bootimage/installer debugging.
 
- The Haskell Compiler (ghc) is not available yet on PPC64. Jiri Skala is working on that and got it to build in mock
 
- yaboot only available on PPC which means we currently need some hacks for 64bit boot images
 
- The latest yaboot doesn't compile anymore, [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=689415 bugzilla #689415]


== The PowerPC koji build system ==
Fedora 28 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on May 1st, 2018. Please see [https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-28// the release announcement] for additional details or download it directly from [https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ here].


All official Fedora PowerPC packages will be built by the koji build system at the
Fedora for Power uses now primary architectures GPG keys. Check [https://fedoraproject.org/keys The official Fedora GPG key list] for a list of primary/secondary keys per releases.
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji PowerPC koji hub]


All non-scratch packages that haven't been deleted by the garbage-collector are available at the
=== Release Notes ===
[http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/mnt/koji/packages/ package storage], scratch builds can be found for a few days at the [http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/mnt/koji/scratch scratch repository]
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/28|Fedora 28]]
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/27|Fedora 27]]
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/26|Fedora 26]] EOL targeted end of May 2018


== Building packages on the PowerPC koji build system ==
== Supported Architectures ==


Everyone with a [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Get_a_Fedora_Account Fedora account] can do at least scratch builds of packages on the PowerPC koji build system, [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers package maintainers] who can check changes into the git repositories can build updated packages that will later on end up in the distribution.
Only 64bit machines (big endian Power5 or newer and little endian Power8 or newer) are supported, 32bit packages are not available anymore in F22 or newer. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest F21 packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore.  


=== Doing scratch builds ===
Fedora 18 through Fedora 23 also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected.  The focus for Fedora 24 and newer is on Power8 or newer hardware and the optimizations for these CPU types are handled through a different mechanism.


After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm
Fedora 25 able to be installed also on Mac G5 machine as per https://github.com/masterzorag/G5_ppc64-linux
ppc-koji build --scratch dist-f15 yourpkg.src.rpm
These builds will be removed from koji automatically after a while.


=== 'real' builds ===
Due the limited resource and clear preference of the ppc64le architecture in any new developments, it was decided that ppc64 architecture will transfer into a maintenance mode where the new features (eg. Atomic Host compose) we plan for ppc64le won't be added, see  [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ppc@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/C23EQYITA4DQWM7CQF6LJC5ABXY2XIEM/ email] for details.


'Real' builds will be pulled into the package repositories and into the install images, unless they got replaced by later versions.
== Previous Releases ==
After running fedora-packager-setup from the fedora-packager rpm
ppc-koji build dist-f15 "$(fedpkg giturl)"
or
fedpkg build --target=dist-f15


== PPC Shell access for debugging ==
You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at [[Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases]].  
[[user:dwmw2|David Woodhouse]] ([[fas:dwmw2|dwmw2]]) and [[user:jwboyer|Josh Boyer]] ([[fas:jwboyer|jwboyer]]) may provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send them an e-mail with an request and a public SSH key.


== Applications/Libraries of Interest ==
== Build System & Resources ==
* [http://mac-on-linux.sourceforge.net/ Mac-on-Linux] - virtualization solution for PowerPC


== Documentation ==
===Koji===  


=== PowerPC Hardware ===
====Rawhide====
==== [[ApplePowerPC]] ====
On October 29, 2016 announcement was made to [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/SBQOANIUYRRRJGK3BNN5WOYERMEVTD5V/ merge ppc64(le)] koji builds of packages with [http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ primary koji].


==== [[PlayStation]] ====
To make a scratch build of package for ppc64 and ppc64le in Fedora rawhide, run:
  koji build --scratch --arch-override=ppc64,ppc64le rawhide yourpkg.src.rpm


== Work needed ==
=== PPC Shell access for debugging ===
[[user:sharkcz|Dan Horák ]] ([[fas:sharkcz|sharkcz]]) can provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send him an e-mail with a request and a public SSH key.
fedora-infra team is also working on providing easier access to a PowerPC VM for debugging build issues. Once we have it ready, we will update this section.


=== Bugzilla ===
== Bugzilla ==


* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&rep_platform=powerpc List of currently open PowerPC bugs]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&rep_platform=powerpc&rep_platform=ppc64&rep_platform=ppc&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&product=Fedora&classification=Fedora List of currently open PowerPC bugs]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 ExcludeArch for PowerPC]
* [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179260 ExcludeArch for PowerPC]
* [[Architectures/BuildIssues|Power & s390x build issues]]


=== Documentation ===
* We need step-by-step tutorials describing HOWTO setup Wi-Fi, Apple Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard, where to find JRE and so on. See the next links (from Ubuntu, Debian and YellowDog):
** [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224673 HOWTO: Apple Wireless Keyboard (Bluetooth)]
** [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ PowerPC FAQ]
** [http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/snd-aoa Notes abount snd-aoa kernel module]
=== [[Architectures/BuildIssues|Known build issues]] ===


== Links ==
== Links ==
* [http://www.ibm.com/chips/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
* [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
* [http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc fedora-ppc mailing list] <BR>
* [[Architectures/PowerPC/PPC-hub-serverstatus|Special files and configuration on the PPC hub]]
* [http://www.ibm.com/systems/power/ Power homepage] <BR>
* [https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home/wiki/W51a7ffcf4dfd_4b40_9d82_446ebc23c550?lang=en The PowerLinux Community Wiki] <BR>
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
* [http://www.power.org/ Power.org] <BR>
* [http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/ YellowDogLinux support pages] <BR>
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
* [http://www.powerdeveloper.org/ powerdeveloper.org]
* [http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/liaae/lcon_Installing_Linux_on_System_p5.htm Installation docs] for IBM Power hardware <BR>




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Getting Started with Fedora for Power::
Check out our current development efforts and join the Fedora for Power team on IRC in #fedora-ppc[?] on http://freenode.net

PowerPC/POWER Special Interest Group

Members

Stable Release, GPG keys

Fedora 28 is the latest stable release of Fedora for Power. It was announced on May 1st, 2018. Please see the release announcement for additional details or download it directly from here.

Fedora for Power uses now primary architectures GPG keys. Check The official Fedora GPG key list for a list of primary/secondary keys per releases.

Release Notes

Supported Architectures

Only 64bit machines (big endian Power5 or newer and little endian Power8 or newer) are supported, 32bit packages are not available anymore in F22 or newer. The last Fedora release with 32bit boot images was Fedora 17. Although it might be possible to install a 32bit F17 release and then update with the latest F21 packages, this is not supported by the Fedora PPC developers anymore.

Fedora 18 through Fedora 23 also includes several optimized packages for Power7 machines. These will be installed automatically if a Power7 processor is detected. The focus for Fedora 24 and newer is on Power8 or newer hardware and the optimizations for these CPU types are handled through a different mechanism.

Fedora 25 able to be installed also on Mac G5 machine as per https://github.com/masterzorag/G5_ppc64-linux

Due the limited resource and clear preference of the ppc64le architecture in any new developments, it was decided that ppc64 architecture will transfer into a maintenance mode where the new features (eg. Atomic Host compose) we plan for ppc64le won't be added, see email for details.

Previous Releases

You can find information about previous Fedora for Power releases at Architectures/PowerPC/PreviousReleases.

Build System & Resources

Koji

Rawhide

On October 29, 2016 announcement was made to merge ppc64(le) koji builds of packages with primary koji.

To make a scratch build of package for ppc64 and ppc64le in Fedora rawhide, run: 

  koji build --scratch --arch-override=ppc64,ppc64le rawhide yourpkg.src.rpm

PPC Shell access for debugging

Dan Horák (sharkcz) can provide you access to a PPC box for build debugging purposes. Just send him an e-mail with a request and a public SSH key. fedora-infra team is also working on providing easier access to a PowerPC VM for debugging build issues. Once we have it ready, we will update this section.

Bugzilla


Links

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