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This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Ambassadors Project<ref> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors </ref>.
This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Ambassadors Project<ref> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors </ref>.


Contributing Writer: [[User:Sankarshan|Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]]
Contributing Writer: [[User:Bckurera| Buddhika Kurera]] and [[User:Richardvj11|Richard A Vijay]] <br/> For period of days starting from '''21 December 2011 to 31 December 2011''' (10hrs GMT+5:30)
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http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/
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=== Fedora Ambassadors Regional Meeting Minutes===
Fedora Ambassadors Regional meeting Page<ref>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings
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*APAC
Meeting minutes for 2011-12-24 <ref>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-12-24</ref>
*EMEA
Meeting minutes for 2011-12-28 <ref>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2011-12-28</ref>
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===Beat this week===
Headlines from mailing lists
* Fedora Linux Google+ page - Admin access by Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
* Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Week 51 by Joerg Simon
* FAmSCo meeting log for 2011-12-21 by Neville
* APAC Bi-weekly meeting logs 2011-12-24 by Buddhika Kurera
* About Fedora release dinners after release parties by Truong Anh. Tuan
* Applying to be a mentor by Truong Anh. Tuan
* We did some sheer awesomeness for 2011. by David Ramsey
* REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 183UTC #fedora-meeting by Reminder
* FAmSCo Report: November 2011 by Igor Pires Soares
* REMINDER: EMEA ambassadors meeting tomorrow 2011-12-28 by Christoph Wickert
* Fedora 16 Release Party / Tokat Report by Onuralp SEZER
* Tux workshop, MindSpark 2011, CoEP, Pune, India by Shakthi Kannan
* Some words about FOSDEM (was: fosdem 2012) by Bert Desmet
* Survey: Red Hat Certifications/Training for FAms by Uditha Bandara Wijerathna
* EMEA ambassadors meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert
* FAmSco meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert
* talks for clt by S.Kemter
* A friendly reminder, the next biweekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, January 07th, 2012 at 04:00 UTC by David Ramsey


=== Welcome New Ambassadors ===
=== Welcome New Ambassadors ===


The Fedora Ambassadors Project saw a couple of new Ambassadors joining in after undergoing to mentoring process.
On behalf of all our Fedora Community and Ambassadors, We  are pleased to Welcome our newly sponsored Ambassador group members:


[[User:Jwickard|Jason Wickard]] joined the Ambassador Project <ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015364.html </ref> from the USA, mentored by Ben Williams
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chanchito from the USA
mentored by Mark Terranova


[[User:Joseroes|José Eduardo Rodríguez Esquivel]] joined the Ambassador Project <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015358.html </ref> from Costa Rica mentored by Neville A. Cross
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hlima from Brazil
mentored by Daniel Bruno


[[User:Joshualivesay|Joshua Livesay]] joined the Ambassador Project <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015358.html </ref> from the USA mentored by Larry Cafiero
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Erheiner from Guatemala
mentored by Neville A. Cross


[[User:Rjbeatty|Robert Beatty]] joined the Ambassador Project <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015358.html </ref> from the USA mentored by Larry Cafiero
We Congratulate them on their success with mentoring program and wish them all success in their endeavour to help Fedora.


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Congrats and Wishes to all New members from Fedora Team.


=== Summary of traffic on Ambassadors mailing list ===
=== Summary of traffic on Ambassadors mailing list ===


Based on a suggestion from Felix Kaechele, Máirín Duffy created a static HTML mock-up <ref> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/fedoracommunity.org/html/16Aug2010/ </ref> and asked for feedback <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015313.html </ref>
* Fedora Linux Google+ page - Admin access by Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018709.html</ref>
 
* Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Week 51 by Joerg Simon
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018709.html</ref>
 
* FAmSCo meeting log for 2011-12-21 by Neville<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018716.html</ref>
 
* APAC Bi-weekly meeting logs 2011-12-24 by Buddhika Kurera<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018734.html</ref>
 
* About Fedora release dinners after release parties by Truong Anh. Tuan<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018735.html</ref>
 
* Applying to be a mentor by Truong Anh. Tuan
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018736.html</ref>
 
* We did some sheer awesomeness for 2011. by David Ramsey
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018743.html</ref>
 
* REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 183UTC #fedora-meeting by Reminder
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018745.html</ref>
 
* FAmSCo Report: November 2011 by Igor Pires Soares
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018746.html</ref>


Wolnei Junior provided information about proyectofedora.org being the Latin America website <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015315.html </ref>  
* REMINDER: EMEA ambassadors meeting tomorrow 2011-12-28 by Christoph Wickert
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018750.html</ref>


Ivan Pacheco pointed out <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015322.html </ref> that Mexico appears under North America for the Fedora Ambassadors Membership Verification and that requires a correction.
* Fedora 16 Release Party / Tokat Report by Onuralp SEZER
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018752.html</ref>


In response, Neville A. Cross suggested <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015323.html </ref> that the issue be put forward before the FAmSCo.
* Tux workshop, MindSpark 2011, CoEP, Pune, India by Shakthi Kannan
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018754.html</ref>


[[User:Jsimon|Joerg Simon]] explained <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015327.html </ref> that the Membership Page is built using a script that uses GeoIP Plugin data and that such data is provided as per continent. He asked for improvements to the script and enhance FAmA's work.
* Some words about FOSDEM (was: fosdem 2012) by Bert Desmet
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018757.html</ref>


Igor Pires Soares suggested including Mexico in the description as " The Latin America region, including Mexico, Centra & South America, is served by the Fedora Ambassadors LATAM group". Máirín Duffy checked it into the repository <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015335.html </ref>
* Survey: Red Hat Certifications/Training for FAms by Uditha Bandara Wijerathna
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018758.html</ref>


Zoltan Hoppar pointed out <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015340.html </ref> that the Hungarian Fedora Community would require guidance on setting up the hu.fedoracommunity.org domain.
* EMEA ambassadors meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018761.html</ref>


Máirín Duffy provided a link <ref> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Local_community_domains#Pre-purchased_domain </ref> to the instructions for requesting a fedoracommunity.org domain and suggested mailing the advisory board mailing list <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015347.html </ref>
* FAmSco meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018761.html</ref>


Paul Frields suggested <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015357.html </ref> that having a mock-up of a design of the site that requires to be created before contacting the Board is  good way to engage in a conversation as it provides a visual representation of what is being proposed to be built.
* talks for clt by S.Kemter
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018770.html</ref>


[[User:Jsimon|Joerg Simon]] responded <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015326.html </ref> to a mail from Ferenc Havasi about Software Freedom Day and Free Software Conference at Szeged, Hungary indicating the need to be a Fedora presence
* A friendly reminder, the next biweekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, January 07th, 2012 at 04:00 UTC by David Ramsey
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018775.html</ref>


[[User:Twohot|Onyeibo Oku]] posted about an idea <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015341.html </ref> about the need to have a cross-platform application/script to handle dependencies for an off-line installation.


Lars Delhage pointed <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015342.html </ref> to a solution which was appreciated <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015344.html </ref>
===FAmSCo Meeting===


Shakthi Kannan pointed <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015343.html </ref> to the fedx <ref> http://gitorious.org/fedx </ref> script/Makefile to obtain complete Fedora repositories to be used offline
* FAmSCo meeting log for 2011-12-21 by Neville
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018716.html</ref>


Daniel VanStone posted to the list <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015370.html </ref> about looking for a mentor.  [[User:Jsimon|Joerg Simon]] responded <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015371.html </ref> pointing out the steps that needed to be undertaken while selecting a mentor.
* FAmSCo Report: November 2011 by Igor Pires Soares
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018746.html</ref>


[[User:Jsimon|Joerg Simon]] posted <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015373.html </ref> a Call for Papers for the 2011 World Congress on Computer Science and Information Technology hoping to catch the eye of Ambassadors from Egypt. [[User:egydev|Ahmed M Araby]] looked into the CfP and wondered <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015385.html </ref> about the steps to ensure a presence. The participation fees were unusually high <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015389.html </ref> as pointed out by [[User:Jsimon|Joerg Simon]]
* FAmSco meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018761.html</ref>


Marcus Moeller informed <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015328.html </ref> that this year FUDCon EMEA will be hosted by FrOSCamp and solicited feedback about a Fedora booth. Gerold concurred <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015330.html </ref> pointing out that being at employed at ETH Zuerich makes Marcus the best choice of being an event owner. Marcus pointed out <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015332.html </ref> that being responsible for FUDCon and FrOSCamp makes it difficult for him to be at a both.
=== Events reported on Ambassadors mailing list ===


John Poelstra posted a list of upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015391.html </ref> which included call from FAmSCo and regional teams for preparation of Media/Swag, Ambassador wide meetings preparing for Fedora 14, regional team meetings and select POC for Swag/Media production and submission of funding request for Swag/Media production
* Fedora 16 Release Party / Tokat Report by Onuralp SEZER
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018752.html</ref>


Ahmed El Gamil posted more <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015392.html </ref> about an idea from http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015398.html <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015390.html </ref> [[User:egydev|Ahmed M Araby]] around a website in Arabic for Fedora Users. A bit later in the thread [[User:egydev|Ahmed M Araby]] pointed out that <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-August/015398.html </ref> approval for arabic.fedoracommunity.org is still pending.
* Tux workshop, MindSpark 2011, CoEP, Pune, India by Shakthi Kannan
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018754.html</ref>


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* Some words about FOSDEM (was: fosdem 2012) by Bert Desmet
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018757.html</ref>
 
* talks for clt by S.Kemter
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018770.html</ref>
 
=== Regional Meeting Minutes ===
 
* APAC Bi-weekly meeting logs 2011-12-24 by Buddhika Kurera
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018734.html</ref>
 
* EMEA ambassadors meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018761.html</ref>
 
=== Meeting Reminders ===
 
* REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 183UTC #fedora-meeting by Reminder
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018745.html</ref>


=== Summary of traffic on FAmSCo mailing list ===
* REMINDER: EMEA ambassadors meeting tomorrow 2011-12-28 by Christoph Wickert
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018750.html</ref>


This week we take a break from reporting on FAmSCo meetings and instead, post a summary of the traffic on the mailing list.
* A friendly reminder, the next biweekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, January 07th, 2012 at 04:00 UTC by David Ramsey
<ref>http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018775.html</ref>


Andrew Overholt posted to the FAmSCo list <ref> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-August/000310.html </ref> pointing out that he does not have the time to be an official Fedora Ambassador but expressed hope that he would have the time to re-join the group in the future
=== Campus Ambassadors mailing list-Summary of traffic ===


No news.


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Latest revision as of 16:19, 13 January 2012

Ambassadors

This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Ambassadors Project[1].

Contributing Writer: Buddhika Kurera and Richard A Vijay
For period of days starting from 21 December 2011 to 31 December 2011 (10hrs GMT+5:30) [2]


Fedora Ambassadors Regional Meeting Minutes

Fedora Ambassadors Regional meeting Page[1]

  • APAC

Meeting minutes for 2011-12-24 [2]

  • EMEA

Meeting minutes for 2011-12-28 [3]

Beat this week

Headlines from mailing lists

  • Fedora Linux Google+ page - Admin access by Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
  • Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Week 51 by Joerg Simon
  • FAmSCo meeting log for 2011-12-21 by Neville
  • APAC Bi-weekly meeting logs 2011-12-24 by Buddhika Kurera
  • About Fedora release dinners after release parties by Truong Anh. Tuan
  • Applying to be a mentor by Truong Anh. Tuan
  • We did some sheer awesomeness for 2011. by David Ramsey
  • REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 183UTC #fedora-meeting by Reminder
  • FAmSCo Report: November 2011 by Igor Pires Soares
  • REMINDER: EMEA ambassadors meeting tomorrow 2011-12-28 by Christoph Wickert
  • Fedora 16 Release Party / Tokat Report by Onuralp SEZER
  • Tux workshop, MindSpark 2011, CoEP, Pune, India by Shakthi Kannan
  • Some words about FOSDEM (was: fosdem 2012) by Bert Desmet
  • Survey: Red Hat Certifications/Training for FAms by Uditha Bandara Wijerathna
  • EMEA ambassadors meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert
  • FAmSco meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert
  • talks for clt by S.Kemter
  • A friendly reminder, the next biweekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, January 07th, 2012 at 04:00 UTC by David Ramsey

Welcome New Ambassadors

On behalf of all our Fedora Community and Ambassadors, We are pleased to Welcome our newly sponsored Ambassador group members:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chanchito from the USA mentored by Mark Terranova

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hlima from Brazil mentored by Daniel Bruno

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Erheiner from Guatemala mentored by Neville A. Cross

We Congratulate them on their success with mentoring program and wish them all success in their endeavour to help Fedora.

Congrats and Wishes to all New members from Fedora Team.

Summary of traffic on Ambassadors mailing list

  • Fedora Linux Google+ page - Admin access by Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail

[1]

  • Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Week 51 by Joerg Simon

[2]

  • FAmSCo meeting log for 2011-12-21 by Neville[3]
  • APAC Bi-weekly meeting logs 2011-12-24 by Buddhika Kurera[4]
  • About Fedora release dinners after release parties by Truong Anh. Tuan[5]
  • Applying to be a mentor by Truong Anh. Tuan

[6]

  • We did some sheer awesomeness for 2011. by David Ramsey

[7]

  • REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 183UTC #fedora-meeting by Reminder

[8]

  • FAmSCo Report: November 2011 by Igor Pires Soares

[9]

  • REMINDER: EMEA ambassadors meeting tomorrow 2011-12-28 by Christoph Wickert

[10]

  • Fedora 16 Release Party / Tokat Report by Onuralp SEZER

[11]

  • Tux workshop, MindSpark 2011, CoEP, Pune, India by Shakthi Kannan

[12]

  • Some words about FOSDEM (was: fosdem 2012) by Bert Desmet

[13]

  • Survey: Red Hat Certifications/Training for FAms by Uditha Bandara Wijerathna

[14]

  • EMEA ambassadors meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert

[15]

  • FAmSco meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert

[16]

  • talks for clt by S.Kemter

[17]

  • A friendly reminder, the next biweekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, January 07th, 2012 at 04:00 UTC by David Ramsey

[18]


FAmSCo Meeting

  • FAmSCo meeting log for 2011-12-21 by Neville

[19]

  • FAmSCo Report: November 2011 by Igor Pires Soares

[20]

  • FAmSco meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert

[21]

Events reported on Ambassadors mailing list

  • Fedora 16 Release Party / Tokat Report by Onuralp SEZER

[22]

  • Tux workshop, MindSpark 2011, CoEP, Pune, India by Shakthi Kannan

[23]

  • Some words about FOSDEM (was: fosdem 2012) by Bert Desmet

[24]

  • talks for clt by S.Kemter

[25]

Regional Meeting Minutes

  • APAC Bi-weekly meeting logs 2011-12-24 by Buddhika Kurera

[26]

  • EMEA ambassadors meeting 2011-12-28 minutes by Christoph Wickert

[27]

Meeting Reminders

  • REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 183UTC #fedora-meeting by Reminder

[28]

  • REMINDER: EMEA ambassadors meeting tomorrow 2011-12-28 by Christoph Wickert

[29]

  • A friendly reminder, the next biweekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, January 07th, 2012 at 04:00 UTC by David Ramsey

[30]

Campus Ambassadors mailing list-Summary of traffic

No news.

  1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018709.html
  2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018709.html
  3. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018716.html
  4. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018734.html
  5. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018735.html
  6. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018736.html
  7. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018743.html
  8. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018745.html
  9. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018746.html
  10. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018750.html
  11. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018752.html
  12. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018754.html
  13. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018757.html
  14. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018758.html
  15. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018761.html
  16. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018761.html
  17. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018770.html
  18. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018775.html
  19. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018716.html
  20. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018746.html
  21. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018761.html
  22. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018752.html
  23. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018754.html
  24. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018757.html
  25. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018770.html
  26. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018734.html
  27. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018761.html
  28. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018745.html
  29. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018750.html
  30. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-December/018775.html