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Feature Name

Fully Testable Perl.


Provide the ability to re-test installed Perl packages (primarily CPAN-hosted packages) by automatically providing the test suites of each distribution as their own "perl-Foo-tests" subpackage, and providing a framework to test.


Current status

  • Targeted release: Fedora 34
  • Last updated: (DATE)
  • Percentage of completion: XX%

Detailed Description

Perl has a long history and culture of testing, which has resulted in a very high percentage of the packages on the CPAN (Comprehensive Perl Archive Network) containing significant test suites. While these test suites are executed at build time, a large number of modern Perl distributions (e.g. Moose, DBIx::Class, Catalyst, etc) depend on a significant number of other dists, which may be owned by a different maintainer and updated independently.

That is, the tests results as executed at build are only valid so long as its environment (the other Perl dists the particular package may depend on) is not changed from the environment this package is built with. Additionally, there are often tests which are available but disabled during %make check as they may cause a circular build dep or require resources not available under the buildsystem (network or $DISPLAY access, or test databases, etc).

This feature proposes to automatically bundle the dists test suites into a -tests subpackage without requiring additional maintainer work (a la debuginfo), which can then be installed to provide the capability to retest functionality post installation.

Benefit to Fedora

Being able to execute the tests of a Perl dist post-build will leverage existing code (the test suites) to allow the end user to perform sanity checks and rule out problems with the underlying code when tracking down bugs.

The net benefit to Fedora is to create an environment where end users (support, programmers, etc) will be able to execute the test suites of the 900+ CPAN dists Fedora packages natively, to track down bugs, test functionality the buildsystem was unable to provide, or just validate their environment.

Having the test suite used to build the package under koji would allow someone to test their modules without having to move away from the Fedora perl packages. It will:

  • Make finding regressions between multiple packages owned by multiple maintainers easier.
  • Provide the end user with the tools to test, debug and validate their environments with the same test suites originally used to build the modules.
  • Leverage existing RPM functionality to create the -tests subpackages without needing any package maintainer interaction, just as -debuginfo packages are created today.
  • Provide an additional source of documentation (e.g. Moose::Role explicitly refers one to the test suite as the "best documentation").


For example, Moose is a modern metaobject-based class framework for Perl 5. It's been around for awhile, has a stable user API, and is extremely powerful. It has a slew of dependencies, as well as extensions in the MooseX::* namespace. Sometimes these extensions take advantage of the metaobject system -- those that do can be highly sensitive to backend changes in both Moose and Class::MOP. MooseX::AttributeHelpers is one such extension -- providing alternate attribute metaclass objects for different data structures. Indeed, Moose's build script explicitly checks for certain levels of modules it knows it will break.


  • work with the perl-qa mailing list for input on how to retain these tests, and potentially other issues which could be made "standard"
  • rpm-build macros: overload the %debug_package macro to automatically create -tests subpackages for Perl dists.
  • Create a test-framework: e.g. to test perl-Moose and all its deps, an end user could execute "perl-tests Moose" and step back.

Test Plan

User Experience


Contingency Plan


Release Notes

Comments and Discussion