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| New FI task: Hide -Alpha and -Beta releases || 2010-11-02 || MirrorManager task to hide version-Alpha and -Beta from the mirror lists on release day ||
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Revision as of 13:39, 2 November 2010


Largely inspired by the success Fedora 13 QA Retrospecitve and the benefit of capturing data from ideas and events when they happen, this page is for tracking Fedora 14 schedule successes and mis-steps. It's goal is iteratively track and refine our process of testing and releasing Fedora 14 on time.

Any Fedora team member or community observer is welcome to add information here.


Task Date What was successful? How to Repeat It?
Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1 2010-07-12 Anaconda traces back on install. The success here is that we discovered this problem four weeks before the Alpha Compose Keep doing what we are doing
Pre-Alpha blocker bug meetings 2010-07-24 Meetings are happening each week and people are referencing the release criteria in the bugs--this is helping to save time at the review meetings
  • Continue to encourage people to become familiar with the release criteria and refer to it
Compose Alpha Release Candidate 2010-08-05
  • All blocker bugs were barely resolved in time.
  • Compose was completed on time---Dennis Gilmore filled in for Jesse Keating
  • Continue to build out SOP documentation so that others can rotate in
  • Hound blocker bug owners and keep requesting status
  • When there are no comments in the bug and maintainers are not responding, query Bodhi and Koji to see if new packages have been built
Tracking release blockers 2010-08-05
  • Continue tracking specific bugs and packages that are out of band of the stable branch and need to be manually included by recording them in the Trac ticket.
  • This provides transparency to all the people working on the process and lessens the chance of something being missed.
  • Save time having to recompose if if something is missed.
Beta Test Compose 2010-09-09 Completed on schedule
  • Maintain good communication with Anaconda team and other critical path packages pertinent to the release
  • Enhance schedule for Anaconda team as requested
Tracking Compose Details 2010-09-14 We are tracking more and more detail in the release engineering tickets for each official compose, in particular which packages must be in as demonsrated in this ticket. This makes the process more transparent and allows more eyes on the details increasing the chances of getting things right the first time. Continue to track important package details and instructions for the compose in the Trac ticket.
Blocker Bug Meetings 2010-09-14 Holding weekly blocker bug meetings each Friday and monitoring the the blocker bug list closely and having an additional ad-hoc meeting on the Tuesday before the Thursday RC Compose to make sure everything was moving in the right direction. More of the same
Public Release of Beta 2010-09-28 The Fedora 14 Beta was released on scheduled We barely made. Continued diligent review of and fixing blocker bugs in a timely manner
Keeping track of spins' status 2010-10-12 The nightly spin composes make it easy to check that spins are building and are properly sized. When problems are noticed, there is history to help track down what broke things. Keep doing the nightly spin composes

Could Have Been Better

Task Date What Happened? What To Do Differently Next Time?
Create Installable Images for QA testing #1 2010-07-08
  • Not ready until 2010-07-12
  • Installer lead was out during week, backup built anaconda-14.10-1.fc14 and pykickstart-1.76-1.fc14 in rawhide on 2010-07-08
  • Release Engineering lead was on out on 2010-07-09
  • Koji Outage 2010-07-10 to 2010-07-11
  • Verify that desired anaconda version is available the day before compose
  • Coordinate with installer lead several weeks prior
  • Create a checklist of reminders and dependencies that should be confirmed prior to the compose date?
  • Send a reminder to devel-announce to have packages in rawhide for upcoming compose
  • Build up the Release Engineering team so that alternate team members can compose releases
Create Installable Images for QA testing #3 2010-07-22
  • Not ready until 2010-07-23
  • glibc change for minimal kernel delayed getting rawhide composed
  • Urge the glibc folks to communicate better when they are going to make disruptive changes like requiring a much newer kernel.
  • Enhance QA and Release Engineering tools to automatically discover breakages like this in advance--prior to the actual compose.
Fedora 14 Blocker Meetings are already taking a minimum of an hour 2010-07-24
  • We are averaging 10 minutes of discussion per bug--this will be a problem as the number of blockers grows
  • Not getting timely feedback needed from bug assignee (package maintainer)
  • In the absence of information from the maintainer the meeting is held up while various people try to research the problem and group discussion attempts to fill in information gaps--many times this works, but it is incredibly inefficient without the package maintainer present.
  • IRC communication can be laggy and disorganized
  • Review and hound maintainers for information about bugs in the comments of proposed and approved blocker bugs as soon as they come in--don't wait for Friday's meeting
  • Use Fedora Talk (conferencing system) to speed up discussion and keep meeting more focused
    • stream audio to the web
    • people without the ability to connect to Fedora Talk can listen to web stream and respond in IRC
Branch Fedora 14 2010-07-27
  • Completed on 2010-07-29
  • New boost package landed on 2010-07-27
  • Python rebuild to 2.7 took longer than expected
  • Change from CVS to Git
  • Assume that branching takes more than one day?
Fedora 14 Alpha Test Compose 2010-07-29
  • Test Compose #1 produced on 2010-08-01. Does not boot because of bug 602274
  • Test Compose #2 produced on 2010-08-03. Cannot install because of bug 620900
  • Gave up on Test Compose #3 and moved to preparing for the Release Candidate
  • Smash less major changes together at the same time: python 2.7, changing SCM, systemd
  • Could we do any sanity testing before publishing images to make sure they boot to save bandwidth and turn around time? In the case of Test Compose #1 it fell over right way.
  • Kevin Kofler suggests it may ultimately have worked out better simply to delay the Alpha freeze and leave dist-f14 tag open until the major problems were resolved
Feature Submission Deadline 2010-07-13
  • It isn't obvious that spins are included in this item, and hence are due before this date.
  • Seems that spin deadline could be later, there is so much other stuff eg even the main Fedora gnome/kde spins to test. (The current spins wrangler disagrees.)
  • Concentrate on one spin successful booting
  • Set a slightly or much later spin completion date
Nightly Spin composes 2010-07-*
  • soname bumps broke a number of the spins that made it difficult to test spins and that cascaded into discovering several bugs very close to the alpha freeze and a lot of scrambling to solve then in a short period of time.
  • Get features that impact lots of other packages (or testing thereof) in well before the deadline.
Nightly Spin ISOs for Alpha 2010-08-24
  • Overlapping issues with broken dependencies have resulted in the Games Spin not composing since July 27th at which point the Splash Screen bug (617115) still existed in livecd-tools. So the Games Spin ISO that exists at the Alpha release will be unusable.
  • Don't let updates with dependency issues into stable.
Notify mirrors about new release content 2010-08-23
  • No SOP exists for this particular rel-eng task.
  • Mirrors may have gotten word late about the F14 Alpha content availability, compared to previous releases. A notice was sent 24 hours ahead (subscriber only link). Only about 50% of the mirrors included F14 Alpha content by 1400 UTC 2010-08-24, which may have been related. Usually the mirror list is notified the Friday before the release.
  • Include a task on the schedule going forward to include making this announcement.
  • Include the actual procedure in the automatically filed rel-eng Trac ticket for releases.
Web content change for F14 Alpha 2010-08-24
  • Links in web content didn't match the actual mirror content (web links started with F14- whereas actual content starts with Fedora-
  • Fedora Websites Release SOP should include info on naming, preferably point to the Release Engineering SOP for creating the ISOs we ship
  • Release Engineering needs an SOP for creating the content (including standard naming)
Meeting times 2010-08-31
  • Blocker meetings are in the schedule without a specified time so hard to plan ahead for people in different timezones.
  • If possible include the time of meetings in the ical schedule - so they appear at right time/date in calendars.
Compose Beta RC 2010-09-16 RC compose was not ready until the end of 2010-09-17 because of two un-resolved blocker bugs (anaconda and kernel). Both bugs had been open for several days. Determine if one week is really enough time from the creation of the Test Compose and and the compose of the Release Candidate. During this one week period we are supposed to test the Test Compose, identify bugs, and fix all blocker bugs, so the compose of the Release Candidate can begin.
Building new spin-kickstart packages 2010-10-12 With the new updates policy we can't get the updated package into stable on freeze day unless we have more lead time. Since there is already a plan to do an update if there is any change during the freeze, it isn't a big deal to do the package builds 8 days earlier. The branch before the GA freeze should stay aligned with that package build and also move 8 days earlier. (After looking more closely the spin freeze is 7 days before the final change deadline and maybe we don't need a full 8 days more.)
Testing live spins 2010-10-22 While I (bruno) didn't get some stuff done in time this time around, trying to go through test cases at the RC phase is too late. If we do spins the same for F15, we need to have the mandatory testing to be done by spin owners sync'd up with the TC phase, so that we have time to react.
Final Release Readiness Meeting 2010-10-18 Key team leads did not attend or came very late: Design, Release Engineering, Infrastructure, and Websites.
New FI task: Hide -Alpha and -Beta releases 2010-11-02 MirrorManager task to hide version-Alpha and -Beta from the mirror lists on release day