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Provide a single, well-known location with information about whether or not Rawhide is broken, and a link to the last known-good Rawhide tree.

Problem Space

Sometimes Rawhide is broken. Brokenness typically comes in one of these types:

  • Installer
    • Installer images missing
    • Installer doesn't work
  • Repo
    • Metadata is missing
    • Package/file conflicts
    • Dependency problems
  • Functional

When Rawhide is broken it's much harder for people to become Rawhide testers, harder for developers to get fixes into the hands of testers, and other such badness.

Proposed Solution

First, we should create test cases for each of the types of breakage described previously. These should be automated or scripted when possible.

These tests should be run regularly (daily if possible) by QA team members and other interested parties. The results should be submitted and displayed prominently on a public website. Kyle McMartin registered for this purpose.

Second: currently we keep copies of several weeks' worth of daily Rawhide trees in the Koji build system. When a tree is deemed good (i.e. when it passes all the tests) someone from QA should file a ticket with rel-eng to create a "known-good" symlink for that rawhide tree. This link should be public and well-known. Someone suggested the name "chewtoy" for this known-good Rawhide.


  • QA Team members (i.e. testers) will need to do regular (daily) testing
  • rel-eng will need to move the symlink when requested

Active Ingredients

  • Define requirements for Good vs. Broken
  • Write test cases to check each requirement
  • Set up a web app to allow testers to submit/view test results
  • Publicize a link to the "chewtoy" known-good tree
  • Hosting for - or a redirect.



Discussion Points

Test requirements need to be fleshed out further.

Need to list requirements for the webapp.

See also these previously-discussed requirements for a "good" Rawhide: JohnPoelstra/ImproveRawhideF10#Defining_GOOD


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