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| Sparks | #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings | 00:01 |
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| zodbot | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 00:01:38 2009 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 00:01 |
| Sparks | #topic Roll Call | 00:01 |
| * Sparks | 00:01 | |
| * jjmcd . | 00:02 | |
| * danielsmw | 00:02 | |
| * ianweller kinda sorta not really | 00:03 | |
| * Sparks gives everyone just a few more minutes | 00:05 | |
| Sparks | Okay, let's get started. | 00:08 |
| Sparks | #topic Last week's action items | 00:08 |
| Sparks | quaid to follow up with Richard about the use of the CC logo on the wiki. | 00:09 |
| jjmcd | none of the action item guys are here | 00:09 |
| Sparks | Yeah, I just realized that. | 00:09 |
| Sparks | We'll just pass these by... | 00:09 |
| Sparks | #topic Release notes format changes | 00:09 |
| Sparks | jjmcd: Is there any further discussion on this? | 00:09 |
| jjmcd | what were we changing? | 00:09 |
| jjmcd | A little late, they are being built each night | 00:10 |
| Sparks | I don't know. | 00:10 |
| Sparks | We'll just call this topic done. | 00:10 |
| Sparks | #topic Status on CMS (Zikula) | 00:10 |
| jjmcd | http://fedora.is-sixsigma.com/F12beta | 00:10 |
| Sparks | Is there any update on Zikula? | 00:11 |
| danielsmw | Um, I guess I have a small one | 00:11 |
| Sparks | danielsmw: go ahead | 00:11 |
| danielsmw | I hope I'm not being a blocker, but I'm not done with my package yet. | 00:11 |
| danielsmw | I am very close though | 00:11 |
| danielsmw | and most of the work is done | 00:11 |
| Sparks | danielsmw: Which package? | 00:11 |
| danielsmw | what I need is a legit packager to help me out with my packaging mistakes | 00:12 |
| danielsmw | Xinha, for Scribite! | 00:12 |
| Sparks | #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status | 00:12 |
| Sparks | ^^^ I don't see it on the list. Could you add it, please? | 00:12 |
| Sparks | danielsmw: I'm a packager but certainly not legit. ianweller is one, though. | 00:12 |
| danielsmw | Sparks: alright | 00:13 |
| Sparks | If he can't help you then maybe he can point you to someone who can | 00:13 |
| danielsmw | wait, should this be on this list? | 00:13 |
| Sparks | Yes. | 00:13 |
| danielsmw | okay | 00:13 |
| danielsmw | even though it's a general package | 00:13 |
| danielsmw | and not a zikula module? | 00:13 |
| Sparks | Well... it's needed for Zikula, right? | 00:13 |
| danielsmw | It's just that it's _for_ zikula, which is why I brought it up now. | 00:13 |
| danielsmw | Yeah, it is | 00:13 |
| danielsmw | So I guess it goes there then. | 00:14 |
| danielsmw | I'll update the list. :) | 00:14 |
| Sparks | TU | 00:14 |
| Sparks | danielsmw: Do you know how much more time it will take to get it straight? | 00:14 |
| bochecha | if I may... I had started to package Xinha for a project of mine (but they I abandoned as I didn't use it in the end) | 00:14 |
| danielsmw | Sparks: i really do have most of it done now, I believe. It's just silly rpmbuild errors | 00:15 |
| bochecha | all I remember is that it wasn't a hard package, I had it built | 00:15 |
| danielsmw | bochecha: it doesn't look that hard, I'm just no good at packaging. :) | 00:15 |
| Sparks | danielsmw: What are the errors? | 00:15 |
| bochecha | danielsmw, if I can help, drop me an email, I had already done it :P | 00:15 |
| danielsmw | Sparks: things like... using sources that aren't archives, and such. | 00:16 |
| danielsmw | bochecha: will do, thanks! | 00:16 |
| danielsmw | Sparks: but the main outline of what I"m doing is there. | 00:16 |
| danielsmw | danielsmw.fedorapeople.org/xinha.spec | 00:16 |
| Sparks | danielsmw: Okay. If I can get my head above water (maybe this weekend) I'll be happy to look at it. ianweller fixed so many errors for me that I might know how to fix yours | 00:17 |
| Sparks | might | 00:17 |
| danielsmw | Sparks: might. thanks, it looks like I'll be getting plenty of help. | 00:17 |
| jjmcd | danielsmw, if you have time tomorrow I might help, too tired tonite | 00:17 |
| Sparks | cool | 00:18 |
| danielsmw | great | 00:18 |
| danielsmw | thanks everyone. | 00:18 |
| danielsmw | i appreciate it. | 00:18 |
| Sparks | Anything else for zikula? | 00:18 |
| danielsmw | uh | 00:19 |
| danielsmw | I have a question | 00:19 |
| Sparks | danielsmw: Go ahead | 00:19 |
| * quaid arrives back | 00:19 | |
| danielsmw | On that page you told me to edit, FCKeditor is listed as something that needs to be packaged | 00:19 |
| * quaid can address his item when it comes back around | 00:19 | |
| danielsmw | which is basically the same thing as Xinha. | 00:19 |
| danielsmw | is there a reason they should both be done? | 00:19 |
| Sparks | No | 00:20 |
| danielsmw | or is that just left over? | 00:20 |
| Sparks | Not really | 00:20 |
| danielsmw | okay, i'll remove it then. | 00:20 |
| Sparks | Okay, anything else for Zikula? | 00:21 |
| Sparks | #topic Status on CC license rollout. | 00:22 |
| Sparks | quaid: Were you able to follow up with Legal? | 00:22 |
| quaid | danielsmw: did you get hooked up with the Beacon maintainer? | 00:22 |
| quaid | Sparks: yes! | 00:22 |
| danielsmw | quaid: no, I forgot! | 00:22 |
| quaid | ironically, Richard just pointed back to spot | 00:22 |
| quaid | and spot knows of the problem; and there doesn't seem to be a solution | 00:22 |
| quaid | i.e., the CC logo(s) are not coverable by the CC-BY-SA | 00:22 |
| quaid | but maybe spot can explain better ... | 00:23 |
| * quaid forgot to ask if he'd be around | 00:23 | |
| Sparks | neither is our logo... | 00:23 |
| Sparks | BUT, I'm good either way | 00:23 |
| quaid | heh, nor are other logos we might carry | 00:23 |
| Sparks | yeah | 00:23 |
| Sparks | spot: You around? | 00:24 |
| Sparks | I guess not. | 00:25 |
| Sparks | So I don't see the problem with using it. | 00:25 |
| Sparks | And I do see a problem with using it. | 00:25 |
| Sparks | So are we going to go with "don't use it"? | 00:26 |
| quaid | well, we have a clear legal guidance for don't use | 00:26 |
| quaid | so, for now, we don't use it. | 00:26 |
| quaid | I'll ask spot to explain on list, k? | 00:26 |
| Sparks | k | 00:26 |
| Sparks | #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule | 00:27 |
| Sparks | So I guess we need to make internal notifications and then get ianweller on changing the wiki over | 00:27 |
| Sparks | rudi's not here tonight but he was still trying to get access to those packages so he could change the Publican brand files over | 00:28 |
| * danielsmw is sneaking out early. peace. | 00:28 | |
| Sparks | danielsmw: Have a good one | 00:28 |
| Sparks | Anything else on the license changeover? | 00:28 |
| * quaid is happy :) | 00:29 | |
| Sparks | #topic # | 00:29 |
| Sparks | * | 00:29 |
| Sparks | #topic Shared open-source style guide | 00:29 |
| Sparks | I think this is a rudi thing, too. Anyone have anything to report on this? | 00:29 |
| quaid | well, yes | 00:30 |
| quaid | this was just part of something, righ? | 00:30 |
| Sparks | quaid: Go ahead | 00:30 |
| quaid | do we have someone who is focusing on what is going on | 00:30 |
| quaid | with the upstream initiative? | 00:30 |
| Sparks | Well.... | 00:30 |
| quaid | writingopensource.org, right? | 00:30 |
| Sparks | maybe | 00:30 |
| Sparks | I don't remember now | 00:30 |
| Sparks | I think rudi was working on getting RH to release their docs | 00:30 |
| quaid | right | 00:31 |
| Sparks | I think ke4qqq was going to work on it as well | 00:31 |
| quaid | that is something we can contribute to the upstream effort, or so I thought we discussed :) | 00:31 |
| quaid | I forget who was on-list with this item ... | 00:31 |
| quaid | he's a gnome.org person, iirc. | 00:31 |
| jjmcd | yeah, I think someone else had point but I don't remember who | 00:31 |
| * quaid looks | 00:31 | |
| Sparks | It's been so long ago I don't even remember | 00:34 |
| quaid | shaun mcchance? | 00:34 |
| * quaid having slow browser ... | 00:34 | |
| * quaid joins http://identi.ca/group/wosdocs | 00:35 | |
| Sparks | So we need to figure out who from FP is going to work on this. | 00:36 |
| Sparks | I think ke4qqq was interested but I don't know how much time he has now | 00:36 |
| Sparks | Let's take this to the list and see if we can stir up any interest | 00:38 |
| Sparks | anything else on this? | 00:38 |
| Sparks | #topic Guide needs? | 00:39 |
| Sparks | Are their any guides (or RN) that need help? | 00:39 |
| jjmcd | I see some weird stuff | 00:40 |
| jjmcd | need to get w/rudi | 00:40 |
| Sparks | okay... anything else? | 00:40 |
| Sparks | #topic New Guides | 00:41 |
| Sparks | Any new guides? | 00:41 |
| Sparks | #topic All other business | 00:42 |
| Sparks | Anyone have anything else? | 00:42 |
| * Sparks thinks we're going to get done early | 00:44 | |
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| Sparks | #endmeeting | 00:44 |