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Kevin: clean up page
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Kevin
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Kevin: 2009-01-22 meeting log
2009-03-17T23:16:19Z
<p>2009-01-22 meeting log</p>
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|- id="tJan 22 09:30:12"<br />
| colspan="2" | ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG - Init process<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:30:12|Jan 22 09:30]]<br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:30:20"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | hey all, who's around for the irc support sig meeting?<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:30:20|Jan 22 09:30]] <br />
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|| [[#tJan 22 09:31:39|Jan 22 09:31]]<br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:31:50"<br />
| colspan="2" | *thomasj present<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:31:50|Jan 22 09:31]]<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:31:57"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | here not not<br />
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! style="background-color: #818144" | hpachas-PE<br />
| style="color: #818144" | RodrigoPadula, hola<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:32:22|Jan 22 09:32]] <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:33:42"<br />
| colspan="2" | *nirik will wait a minute or two more for folks to trickle in. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:33:42|Jan 22 09:33]]<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:34:15"<br />
| colspan="2" | *so_solid_moo will be here for this meeting too then :)<br />
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | humm... ok, I guess we can start in... <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:38:24|Jan 22 09:38]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:38:33"<br />
| colspan="2" | ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG - Classroom<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:38:33|Jan 22 09:38]]<br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:38:52"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | we have some more classes coming up in feb... <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:38:52|Jan 22 09:38]] <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:39:04"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | so if anyone wants to teach or knows someone who would, let me know. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:39:04|Jan 22 09:39]] <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:39:16"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | also, we should probibly start doing some advertising a week or so in advance. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:39:16|Jan 22 09:39]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:39:22"<br />
! style="background-color: #854685" | herlo<br />
| style="color: #854685" | ooh, we should advertise :)<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:39:22|Jan 22 09:39]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:39:28"<br />
| colspan="2" | *herlo will help with that...<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:39:28|Jan 22 09:39]]<br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:40:20"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah. ;) Anyhow, just thought I would mention it... <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:40:20|Jan 22 09:40]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:40:48"<br />
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | herlo: we should meet up sometime and come up with advertising/brainstorming/sessions. ;) <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:40:58|Jan 22 09:40]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:41:05"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | anyhow, moving along...<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:41:05|Jan 22 09:41]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:41:46"<br />
| colspan="2" | ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG - hot topics<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:42:29"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | Another hairbrained Idea I have had. How about we try and come up with at the meeting each week the top 5 bugs we see lots of users hitting, and then post that list to the devel and/or testing lists. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:42:29|Jan 22 09:42]] <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:43:28"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | anyone think thats a good idea? bad one? <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:43:28|Jan 22 09:43]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:43:38"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | Hmm.. not a bad one.<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:43:38|Jan 22 09:43]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:44:53"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | ie, give developers more info on what bugs users are hitting in the last week (at least from a biased sample of irc users)<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:44:53|Jan 22 09:44]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:45:10"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | we should do more to encourage end users to bugzilla themselves<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:45:10|Jan 22 09:45]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:45:30"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | it really is a better scenario if the end users who are themselves experiencing the problem are involved in the bug process<br />
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | so_solid_moo<br />
| style="color: #4b904b" | bugzilla isn't a particularly nice tool to use though<br />
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | sure, but I am saying things like the intel video lockup bug, or the no sound for some intel-hda sound cards in a particular kernel. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:46:02|Jan 22 09:46]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:46:04"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | so_solid_moo, that is something beyond our scope<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:46:26"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | nirik, both of those have very long CC lists on the bugs as well<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:46:26|Jan 22 09:46]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:46:26"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | not sure it's really that usefull... but just an idea. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:46:26|Jan 22 09:46]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:46:37"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | nirik, you think that would fix the bugs faster? ;)<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:46:44"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | agreed. It would be more usefull for something thats just coming up and starting to happen. <br />
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | so_solid_moo<br />
| style="color: #4b904b" | vwbusguy, sure, but I'm thinking that trying to expose people to more bz might just frustrate them<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:48:24|Jan 22 09:48]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:49:03"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | Makes them part of the community. Not just user.<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:49:03|Jan 22 09:49]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:49:38"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | alternately, we could look at the list of common bugs we are seeing a lot over a week and see if any could be added to common bugs. <br />
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! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | +1<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:51:03"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | that might have more positive impact. <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:51:26"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | so, what are the hot issues people have been seeing this week?<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:52:51"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | still snd-hda-intel<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:53:01"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | aka, alsa<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:53:31"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, the intel video lockup I have seen a few times... <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:54:34"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | anyhow, just an idea... I guess you all can ponder on it and we can try next week? <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:54:48"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | else some smaller issues, like the rpmdb gets corrupted in F10 more often than in prior releases.<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:54:48|Jan 22 09:54]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:54:59"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | dunno why.<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:55:50"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | sure we can ponder on it.<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:55:58"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | there was an issue with ext4 and rpmdb... <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:56:50"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | anyhow, thought I would throw it out there. <br />
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | ok, moving on... <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:57:48"<br />
| colspan="2" | ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG - getting people involved<br />
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | I think one of the areas we could improve on is pointing people to resouces for getting involved... <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:58:50"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | ie, if someone suggests something, or an improvement, point them to the join page or the subproject sig where that change would be made. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:58:50|Jan 22 09:58]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 09:59:01"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | The wiki has a main page for "getting involved"? Maybe we can add it to /topic<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 09:59:24"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join<br />
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! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | We tell people already to step up, but all are end user :)<br />
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! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | ok<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 09:59:36|Jan 22 09:59]] <br />
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, but some of those people could really help out and provide something great to the project. You never know... <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:01:04"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | we should help them go to the right place to help... <br />
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! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | Done with /topic<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:03:27"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | ok, anyone else want to chime in on this? or are thomasj and I the only ones here? :) <br />
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! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | looks like :D<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:03:57"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | i have been thinking about doing a jigdo classroom but i dont want to do it at midnite<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:03:57|Jan 22 10:03]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:03:58"<br />
| colspan="2" | ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG - state of the channel<br />
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | Southern_Gentlem: sign up for one down the road? there are a few more months listed on the page. <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:05:02"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | anyhow, on to a state of the channel... how are we doing? <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:05:30"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | i think we are doing a great job<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:05:35"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | I have had some feedback this week with someone who was saying the channel is as bad as it ever was. I disagree, but we should work harder... <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:05:35|Jan 22 10:05]] <br />
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | bad in what way<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:06:02|Jan 22 10:06]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:06:29"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | let me go look... just a sec. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:06:29|Jan 22 10:06]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:08:06"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | saying the ops are pushing people around and banning/kicking for minor issues. <br />
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | i disagree<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:08:16|Jan 22 10:08]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:08:29"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | excessive control of language. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:08:29|Jan 22 10:08]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:09:01"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | i only kick for the f word<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:09:01|Jan 22 10:09]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:09:13"<br />
| colspan="2" | *Southern_Gentlem reminds offender Be polite and avoid profanity someone's kids and their grandmother might be in here listening <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:09:13|Jan 22 10:09]]<br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:09:16"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | I don't think so either, but I wanted to bring it up here and note that for some people at least we still need to improve. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:09:16|Jan 22 10:09]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:10:01"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | excessive control of language because khay banned perlsyntax for repeatedly curseing like a sailor<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:10:01|Jan 22 10:10]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:10:06"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | hmm.. end user (some people)?<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:10:06|Jan 22 10:10]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:10:54"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | and i think the channel is doing a good job of self policeing itself lately<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:10:54|Jan 22 10:10]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:11:01"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | anyhow, I think the biggest thing we can do is be professional, and follow our rules. If our rules need changing we should do so at that level<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:11:01|Jan 22 10:11]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:11:21"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | I can only speak for what i do. And the only thing i did wrong was kicking DavidFreeman once.<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:11:21|Jan 22 10:11]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:11:36"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I remember that<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:11:36|Jan 22 10:11]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:11:48"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | And i apologized for it later in ops.<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:11:48|Jan 22 10:11]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:11:52"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | thomasj, he does come across as little tto strong at times<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:11:52|Jan 22 10:11]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:11:55"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | everyone makes mistakes... ;)<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:11:58"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | yeah, in hindsight I do think he was a troll<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:11:58|Jan 22 10:11]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:12:30"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | thomasj, and he has a redhat mask?<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:12:30|Jan 22 10:12]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:12:32"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | i had him perm banned and did unban him accidentially.<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:12:32|Jan 22 10:12]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:12:40"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | thomasj, nope<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:12:40|Jan 22 10:12]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:12:43"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | args<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:12:43|Jan 22 10:12]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:12:44"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | I think we should also not be quick to label people trolls... sure there are some, but kicking them at the drop of a hat means you will be kicking people who are not really trolls and need help<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:12:44|Jan 22 10:12]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:12:46"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | Southern_Gentlem, nope<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:12:46|Jan 22 10:12]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:13:15"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | nirik, generally I think we've been good about it<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:13:15|Jan 22 10:13]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:13:20"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | thomasj, well he was in last nite and was behaving himself to its all good<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:13:20|Jan 22 10:13]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:13:22"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | anyhow, overall I think we are doing ok. :) We could use more helpers, but thats always the case. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:13:22|Jan 22 10:13]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:13:28"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | giving people a few chances first<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:13:28|Jan 22 10:13]] <br />
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|| [[#tJan 22 10:13:38|Jan 22 10:13]]<br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:13:46"<br />
| colspan="2" | *vwbusguy could use more helpers and customers in #Fedora-EOL<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:13:57"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | i have been warning people<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:13:57|Jan 22 10:13]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:13:57"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | although customers has been picking up a _little_ more<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:14:01"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | vwbusguy: hows that going? <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:14:01|Jan 22 10:14]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:14:02"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | lol<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:14:02|Jan 22 10:14]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:14:10"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | only troll is opsec, haha<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:14:10|Jan 22 10:14]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:14:14"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | lol<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:14:14|Jan 22 10:14]] <br />
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! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | true<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:14:16|Jan 22 10:14]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:14:31"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | nirik, about as well as expected,<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:14:31|Jan 22 10:14]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:14:34"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | i am hoping by the end of the month that a f10 re-spin will help stip your traffic even more<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:14:34|Jan 22 10:14]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:14:38"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I did find some old legacy mirrors still up<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:14:38|Jan 22 10:14]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:14:46"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | and archive.fp.o is still up<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:14:46|Jan 22 10:14]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:14:55"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | and FreshRPMs still has repos up for old versions<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:14:55|Jan 22 10:14]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:15:05"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | Southern_Gentlem, we're waiting for a new kernel? Fixing the sound issue?<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:15:05|Jan 22 10:15]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:15:09"<br />
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | vwbusguy<br />
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | a few stupid questions "Can I get KDE 4.1 in old version X?"<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:15:11"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | s/we/you/<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:15:11|Jan 22 10:15]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:15:20"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | thomasj, yep<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:15:20|Jan 22 10:15]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:15:26"<br />
! style="background-color: #488888" | thomasj<br />
| style="color: #488888" | good<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:15:26|Jan 22 10:15]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:15:28"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | Southern_Gentlem: came out last night I think. ;) <br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:15:41"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | not that i have seen<br />
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | well, it was approved to push last night. No idea if a push has been done with it yet. <br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:16:21|Jan 22 10:16]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:16:35"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | anyhow, anything folks want to bring up before we close?<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:16:35|Jan 22 10:16]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:16:45"<br />
| colspan="2" | ---nirik has changed the topic to: IRC Support SIG - Open Floor<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:16:45|Jan 22 10:16]]<br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:17:18"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | not pushed<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:17:18|Jan 22 10:17]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:17:40"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:17:47"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | my f10 test still shows 159<br />
|| [[#tJan 22 10:17:47|Jan 22 10:17]] <br />
|- id="tJan 22 10:18:34"<br />
! style="background-color: #42427e" | Southern_Gentlem<br />
| style="color: #42427e" | in updates<br />
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | ok, will close the meeting in 60<br />
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|- id="tJan 22 10:20:53"<br />
! style="background-color: #407a40" | nirik<br />
| style="color: #407a40" | ok, thanks for coming folks. <br />
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