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At the [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Cloud_WG_2016 Fedora Cloud WG Activity Day 2016] it was discussed that the industry is moving towards a new paradigm of deploying software in Cloud environments and as such Fedora should be on the Leading Edge of that movement. The proposal was to refocus the primary deliverable of the [[Cloud | Fedora Cloud WG]] to be one based on [https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/atomic.html Fedora Atomic Host] and [https://www.openshift.org/ OpenShift Origin]. This will also come as an extension of the [[Changes/Layered_Docker_Image_Build_Service| Fedora Docker Layered Image]] work as we will want to enhance the guidelines for Docker Layered Image Maintainers to include the metadata required for deployment of software into an OpenShift environment (or [http://kubernetes.io/ Kubernetes], as the container orchestration engine OpenShift is built on).
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==== Notes from the [[FAD_Cloud_WG_2016|Fedora Cloud WG FAD 2016]] ====
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* Fedora/OpenShift Strategy
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** Several years ago was the Fedora.Next initiative
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** Three offerings: Workstation, Server, Cloud
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* Currently looking to refresh how we do Fedora Cloud
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** Came into meeting aiming for Fedora Atomic Host, but quickly came to consensus that that doesn't go far enough
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** Going "more grand"
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*** Fedora + OpenShift
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*** The aim of Fedora is to be the future of the platform, the goal of the platform is to run services and applications. The direction things are going tomorrow with services and applications is to run them in a container centric scaled out environment and the future of that in the opinion of the Fedora Cloud SIG is OpenShift. We believe Fedora + OpenShift is the future of "The Platform" for Cloud.
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** Things Fedora could be doing to be useful or helpful for OpenShift
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*** openshift-ansible - potentially a fork that's Fedora focused or maybe a branch
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**** Target OpenShift in containers, create an ansible playbook/roles that would deploy OpenShift in containers on Fedora Atomic Host
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*** source-to-image docker images based on Fedora content to deliver language runtime stacks
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*** Be a place to try out things like full container based deployments
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**** Such as installing OpenShift in Fedora Atomic Host by default as system containers, or via layered rpm  (don't do in-docker)
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*** Add things that OpenShift could use to the layered image build system
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*** Fedora working an "Operating System" for the container
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**** minimization
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**** something like busybox (for the people who care)
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**** a rich and diverse userspace
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**** bridge between running systemd in a container
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***** what I really want to do is just launch a service
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*** Making it easier to package things under the Fedora banner
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*** Fedora, arguably, is best positioned for enabling continuous delivery
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**** although, there's much work to be done
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**** <walters> Could just deploy rpmdistro-gitoverlay *today* for Atomic Host content
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* Fedora Initiative for OpenShift Origin + Fedora
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** First taken as Fedora Incubator Project - First run PoC admiller, jberkus, walters, dmcphers (as a point of contact)
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*** Identify containers to build from Fedora rpms to host OpenShift Origin in a container deployment
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**** System containers for OpenShift Origin, not docker
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*** Deploy on Fedora Atomic Host
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**** 1 Master, 2 Nodes
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*** Automate with Ansible
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**** fork openshift-ansible, rip and replace as needed
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** Fedora Council official initiative once "graduated" from the Incubator Project
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** Codename: Project FOO (get Dave Grohl, he can be the project drummer so long as he isn't fighting us, or is at least fighting for us)
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*** Atomic Fusion (always 20 years away)
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*** Talk to Grant Shipley about this
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** previous message: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council-discuss/2015-September/013694.html
  
 
=== Deliverables ===
 
=== Deliverables ===

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Objective: Project FAO (Fedora + Atomic + OpenShift)

Also known as: Codename Foosion

Goal

The goal of this is to deliver a Fedora Atomic Host image that comes pre-enabled to run OpenShift Origin in a multi-node cluster to enable Fedora users to easily deploy and maintain multi-node clustered services in a container-based solution.

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More Details

At the [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Cloud_WG_2016 Fedora Cloud WG Activity Day 2016] it was discussed that the industry is moving towards a new paradigm of deploying software in Cloud environments and as such Fedora should be on the Leading Edge of that movement. The proposal was to refocus the primary deliverable of the Fedora Cloud WG to be one based on Fedora Atomic Host and OpenShift Origin. This will also come as an extension of the Fedora Docker Layered Image work as we will want to enhance the guidelines for Docker Layered Image Maintainers to include the metadata required for deployment of software into an OpenShift environment (or Kubernetes, as the container orchestration engine OpenShift is built on).

Notes from the Fedora Cloud WG FAD 2016

  • Fedora/OpenShift Strategy
    • Several years ago was the Fedora.Next initiative
    • Three offerings: Workstation, Server, Cloud
  • Currently looking to refresh how we do Fedora Cloud
    • Came into meeting aiming for Fedora Atomic Host, but quickly came to consensus that that doesn't go far enough
    • Going "more grand"
      • Fedora + OpenShift
      • The aim of Fedora is to be the future of the platform, the goal of the platform is to run services and applications. The direction things are going tomorrow with services and applications is to run them in a container centric scaled out environment and the future of that in the opinion of the Fedora Cloud SIG is OpenShift. We believe Fedora + OpenShift is the future of "The Platform" for Cloud.
    • Things Fedora could be doing to be useful or helpful for OpenShift
      • openshift-ansible - potentially a fork that's Fedora focused or maybe a branch
        • Target OpenShift in containers, create an ansible playbook/roles that would deploy OpenShift in containers on Fedora Atomic Host
      • source-to-image docker images based on Fedora content to deliver language runtime stacks
      • Be a place to try out things like full container based deployments
        • Such as installing OpenShift in Fedora Atomic Host by default as system containers, or via layered rpm (don't do in-docker)
      • Add things that OpenShift could use to the layered image build system
      • Fedora working an "Operating System" for the container
        • minimization
        • something like busybox (for the people who care)
        • a rich and diverse userspace
        • bridge between running systemd in a container
          • what I really want to do is just launch a service
      • Making it easier to package things under the Fedora banner
      • Fedora, arguably, is best positioned for enabling continuous delivery
        • although, there's much work to be done
        • <walters> Could just deploy rpmdistro-gitoverlay *today* for Atomic Host content
  • Fedora Initiative for OpenShift Origin + Fedora
    • First taken as Fedora Incubator Project - First run PoC admiller, jberkus, walters, dmcphers (as a point of contact)
      • Identify containers to build from Fedora rpms to host OpenShift Origin in a container deployment
        • System containers for OpenShift Origin, not docker
      • Deploy on Fedora Atomic Host
        • 1 Master, 2 Nodes
      • Automate with Ansible
        • fork openshift-ansible, rip and replace as needed
    • Fedora Council official initiative once "graduated" from the Incubator Project
    • Codename: Project FOO (get Dave Grohl, he can be the project drummer so long as he isn't fighting us, or is at least fighting for us)
      • Atomic Fusion (always 20 years away)
      • Talk to Grant Shipley about this
    • previous message: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council-discuss/2015-September/013694.html

Deliverables

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Objective Lead

Adam Miller Josh Berkus

Timeframe

This is targeted for Fedora 26 as an official release item, but would like the freedom to operate under the Fedora Brand and an Incubator project in the mean time.

History

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