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Common_F14_Bugs
Quick check-in on Common_F14_bugs and discussion around incoming issues on test@lists.fedoraproject.org
F-14 QA Retrospective -- last call
Last call for feedback on Fedora_14_QA_Retrospective. Really good list of improvement areas generated so far, but more feedback never hurts.
Suggestions/ideas on organizing feedback into recommendations?
F-15 QA schedule drafted
Feedback welcome ... http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-quality-tasks.html
Open discussion - <Your topic here>
AutoQA ticket#205
mkrizek mentioned he has a working script to submit bodhi update feedback and is looking for a sample test to integrate the support with. Between depcheck and upgradepath, it was recommended to use upgradepath</path> since depcheck is still in a private branch and it isn't clear whether it's ready to be integrated yet.
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jlaska
#startmeeting Fedora QA Meeting
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Meeting started Mon Nov 8 16:00:23 2010 UTC. The chair is jlaska. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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jlaska
#meetingname fedora-qa
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The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
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jlaska
#topic Gathering ...
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adamw
o to the y
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jlaska
adamw: welcome!
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* mkrizek is here
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jlaska
I think we'll be without jskladan and kparal today
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jlaska
Hi mkrizek
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mkrizek
hi all
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jlaska
wwoods will be a bit delayed as he needs to see a man about a horse
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jlaska
anyone else lurking in the shadows?
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* adamw sprays shadows with rifle
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adamw
not any more, sir!
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jlaska
wait, no we needed ... oh
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jlaska
:)
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jlaska
I'll wait another minute, and we'll get moving
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jlaska
#info Proposed meeting agenda - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-November/095431.html
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jlaska
mkrizek: are you in a lecture at the moment?
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mkrizek
jlaska: not today
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jlaska
okay ... diving into the agenda
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jlaska
this will be light today, just review and recap on F-14 still
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jlaska
#topic Common_F14_Bugs
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jlaska
As I'm sure everyone knows, there is a wiki page (and process) used to record common issues users may hit
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jlaska
#link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F14_bugs
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jlaska
This #topic is 1) a quick reminder that the page exists, and instructions for adding your own entries are at the topic of the page
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jlaska
and 2) we are just about 1-week out from F-14 general availability
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jlaska
there is still active discussion of changes and issues on the list (and I suspect forums too)
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adamw
erm
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* adamw hands jlaska the time machine
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jlaska
adamw: sorry, I meant 1-week s/out/past/
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adamw
=)
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jlaska
only thing I wanted to discuss here is whether we need to get folks on particular issues
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jlaska
are there any developing issues/discussion that need further investigation as possible common bug entries?
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adamw
nothing i'm aware of
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jlaska
I'm tracking a few BIOS RAID bugs still ... but those continue to mature ... no resolution yet that I'm aware of
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jlaska
adamw: any trends or concerns pop up from the forums?
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adamw
nope, just the usual mix of mini-buglets
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adamw
and people trying to get nvidia working
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jlaska
anything different there wrt nvidia?
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jlaska
blacklisting nouveau etc... ?
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* jlaska hasn't had reason to change to proprietary NVidia drivers ... happy w/ nouveau
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jlaska
alrighty ... so that's enough on this topic
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adamw
yeah there's a bug in pyxf86config
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adamw
which throws off all the *-config-display tools
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adamw
so the typical install method for nvidia, fglrx and psb doesn't work
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adamw
we (with rpmfusion hat on) should do something about that
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jlaska
Is this intended to resolve that issue? http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=203948
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jlaska
* Sun Nov 07 2010 Lubomir Rintel <lkundrak@v3.sk> - 0.3.37-10
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jlaska
- Unbreak it for new XOrg configuration parser
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jlaska
anyway, we can talk about that further in #fedora-qa ... don't think that's needed for this meeting (sorry)
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jlaska
#topic F-14 QA Retrospective -- last call
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jlaska
#link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_QA_Retrospective
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jlaska
Another reminder topic ... we've got some really good content on the page so far
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jlaska
As always though, the more the better
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jlaska
even if you see something already on the page, it helps me to see when multiple people report the same (or similar) issues
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adamw
jlaska: ooh! possibly.
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jlaska
In the coming weeks, I plan to organize the content into distinct groups, and then list recommendations based on the issues identified or suggestions contributed
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jlaska
#info Last call for contributions ... add your feedback on what was good/bad/ugly about Fedora 14 Testing
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jlaska
with regards to the process we followed last time ....
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jlaska
The format worked for me ... it seemed to lend well to filing tickets so anyone could contribute
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jlaska
For an example of what I'm talking about ... see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective#Recommendations
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jlaska
I'll likely follow that same procedure
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jlaska
However, I'm open to thoughts/suggestions on how we might better collaborate on the content as a group
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jlaska
Certainly not something I expect to tackle in todays meeting ... but I am very interested in any ideas on how to collaboratively process the recommendations
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adamw
i like the trac process, t's clear
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jlaska
yeah that worked well I think ... maybe I need to be more active with directing folks to that list
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jlaska
#info jlaska seeking ideas for improving F-15 QA recommendations process/collaboration
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jlaska
alright ... last planned topic for today ...
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jlaska
#topic F-15 QA schedule drafted
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jlaska
poelcat provided a link to the draft F-15 QA schedule
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jlaska
#link http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-quality-tasks.html
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jlaska
poelcat and I had a brief discussion about some of the changes to the schedule. A summary of that talk is available at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/147#comment:2
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adamw
looks okay
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jlaska
I plan to re-review the schedule in the context of the F-14 QA recommendations (once complete)
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jlaska
but I'm pretty happy with the content
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jlaska
adamw: excellent
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jlaska
alright, it's open mic time
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jlaska
#topic Open discussion - <Your topic here>
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jlaska
mkrizek: is there anything you'd like to call here out with regards to autoqa?
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mkrizek
jlaska: not at the moment, I need to run the #205 with upgradepath/depcheck first before making any conclusions about the #205
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jlaska
mkrizek: anything you need help with with regards to running those specific tests?
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mkrizek
jlaska: well, one question, is it possible to run depcheck yet?
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jlaska
mkrizek: I'm sure it's possible, but I think that the code is still in wwoods private branch. So it's likely not intended for general consumption yet
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mkrizek
ok, I will try the upgradepath first then
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jlaska
mkrizek: yeah, that's probably the best place to experiment first ... I assume that depcheck is close to final, but hard to say until it's moved into 'master'
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jlaska
alright ... if no other comments in 1 minute, let's #endmeeting
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jlaska
okay gang ... let's get back to your post-F14 wrap-up activities and pre-F15 planning
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jlaska
thanks all
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jlaska
#endmeeting
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