QA/Meetings/20110808

Attendees

• tflink (114)
• jlaska (81)
• adamw (80)
• Viking-Ice (45)
• kparal (6)
• zodbot (5)
• maxamillion (4)
• nirik (3)
• rbergeron (3)
• dgilmore (2)
• pschindl (2)
• mkrizek (1)
• athmane (1)

Agenda

• Proposed meeting agenda
• MeetBot summary

Previous meeting follow-up

• all follow-ups included in later agenda items

F16 Alpha status

• Review of all open blocker bugs conducted: for details, see MeetBot summary

EC2 Test Day Recap

• we had 5 people record test results during the test day
• one new bug was filed, 3 people reproduced an old issue on the instance-store AMIs

08-11 Test Day slot

• call for all to send any test day suggestions to the lists

Open Discussion

• autoqa-0.6.0 was released

IRC Log

tflink	#startmeeting Fedora QA meeting	15:01
zodbot	Meeting started Mon Aug 8 15:01:02 2011 UTC. The chair is tflink. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	15:01
zodbot	Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.	15:01
tflink	#meetingname fedora-qa	15:01
zodbot	The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'	15:01
tflink	#topic roll call	15:01
tflink	alrighty, let's get started	15:01
* nirik is lurking		15:01
* pschindl is here		15:01
* jlaska is here		15:02
* athmane is here		15:02
* kparal here		15:02
* mkrizek is present		15:02
tflink	hello nirik, pschindl, jlaska, athmane, kparal, mkrizek	15:02
pschindl	hi	15:02
tflink	let's wait another couple of minutes for people to join and then get to business	15:03
* rbergeron is lurking in a double-booked-meeting type of way :\		15:04
tflink	ooh, that sounds like fun :)	15:05
* Viking-Ice sneaks in late...		15:05
tflink	alrighty, lets get started. I'm new at this, so let me know if I'm not doing something right :)	15:05
tflink	#topic Previous Meeting Followup	15:05
jlaska	tflink: meetbot is very forgiving :)	15:05
* adamw throws peanuts from the front row		15:06
adamw	SEND IN THE CLOWNS!	15:06
* tflink ducks and is thankful adamw isn't throwing tomatoes yet		15:06
tflink	unless I'm missing something, I don't see anything to follow up with from last meeting that isn't already on the agenda	15:06
jlaska	yeah	15:07
* Viking-Ice is armed with lettuce heads and laughs at people with tomatoes		15:07
* tflink is worried		15:07
adamw	the vegetable artillery is out in force	15:07
tflink	#topic F16 Alpha Status	15:08
tflink	#link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-quality-tasks.html	15:08
tflink	#link F16 Alpha RC1 went out on Friday	15:08
* kparal made sure today we don't starve on reported bugs		15:09
adamw	gee, thanks ;)	15:09
tflink	#link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-August/101689.html	15:09
jlaska	kparal: bugs are only happy if they come with criteria :)	15:09
tflink	hrm, that wasn't supposed to be a link	15:09
tflink	#undo	15:09
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Viking-Ice	we need to make another rc from the looks of it	15:09
tflink	#unco	15:10
tflink	#undo	15:10
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tflink	#info F16 Alpha RC1 went out on Friday	15:10
tflink	#link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-August/101689.html	15:10
adamw	so as an overview it looks like test coverage on rc1 install is fairly good	15:10
adamw	base and desktop need doing	15:10
adamw	and it's looking better than tc1 but clearly seems like we're gonna have to go to rc2	15:10
tflink	did we get the new anaconda and NM in RC1?	15:10
adamw	dennis says the new anaconda was in there	15:10
adamw	and I think NM should be as i listed it on the ticket	15:11
* rbergeron notes she is getting ready to ship out the mail for wednesday's go/no-go meeting, FYI.		15:11
Viking-Ice	yup I encountered bug 728700 and dgilmore mentioned some new file conflicts	15:11
jlaska	an updated patch for the NM anaconda fix just landed on anaconda-devel@	15:11
adamw	rhe entered a pass for "QA:Testcase_install_repository_HTTP/FTP_graphical" so that would suggest networking is better in rc1	15:12
jlaska	^---> but this is for NTH 727951	15:12
* nirik wonders if we could get abiword in as a NTH...		15:12
dgilmore	adamw: rc1 had anaconda and nm updates	15:12
adamw	nirik: sure. file a bug	15:12
nirik	https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716005 might apply.	15:12
tflink	jlaska: is that for the NM bug where interfaces are listed multiple times?	15:13
jlaska	tflink: you got it	15:13
dgilmore	http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/bleed/ is the side repo. where i put the packages we need to pull in	15:13
adamw	well, if anaconda team does a build in time we'll pull it into rc2, i guess.	15:13
jlaska	and given there are some new proposed anaconda blockers, that might end up landing in Alpha still	15:13
jlaska	#link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers#Proposed_Blockers	15:13
adamw	so i guess we should be going through the blockers filed so far and voting on those	15:13
adamw	get the base and desktop testing done	15:13
adamw	and then start pulling together a list of updates for rc2	15:14
tflink	adamw: I assume that you mean right now, no?	15:14
* rbergeron nods		15:14
adamw	tflink: right	15:14
jlaska	adamw: heads up, that fedora-logos update needs an accompanying generic-logos update included	15:14
adamw	tflink: do it async via comments	15:14
adamw	jlaska: ok	15:14
jlaska	adamw: discussing that in #fedora-releng	15:14
jlaska	yay to depcheck for finding that :)	15:14
jlaska	tflink: kparal: jskladan ^^^	15:14
tflink	good to hear :)	15:15
* kparal yays		15:15
tflink	alrighy, time for some proposed blockers	15:15
jlaska	Depcheck html results found fedora-logos problem - http://autoqa.fedoraproject.org/results/150310-autotest/10.5.124.164/depcheck/results/fedora-logos-16.0.0-.html	15:15
tflink	#topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692433	15:15
tflink	#info Cannot connect to Gnome keyring daemon dialog becomes annoying	15:15
adamw	jlaska: that's not strictly a blocker issue, of course, since generic-logos isn't on the dvd.	15:15
adamw	(is it?)	15:15
Viking-Ice	fyi that bug is against F15	15:16
jlaska	adamw: it is not, you are correct	15:16
adamw	see later comment	15:16
adamw	comment #6 from rhe	15:16
jlaska	adamw: we'll have to think about this for future updates when autoqa blocks bad deps ... but for now, we're clear	15:16
tflink	Viking-Ice: true but rhe just reproduced it on F16	15:16
adamw	that explains why it's proposed as a blocker	15:16
jlaska	ugh	15:17
jlaska	well, this seems pretty cut'n'dry for existing Alpha criteria	15:17
tflink	The only thing I can think of for blocker criteria on this one is that it impedes testing	15:17
adamw	tflink: it's the same criterion we accepted the NM bug under	15:17
jlaska	#info May impact Alpha criteria "The installer must be able to report failures to Bugzilla, with appropriate information included "	15:17
tflink	nvm	15:17
adamw	it prevents submission of bugs	15:17
tflink	I missed rhe's last comment	15:18
adamw	good news is there's a fix already, by the looks of it...	15:18
Viking-Ice	oh that criteria	15:18
tflink	proposed #agreed 692433 - AcceptedBlocker - The installer must be able to report failures to Bugzilla, with appropriate information included"	15:18
jlaska	ack	15:18
Viking-Ice	nack	15:18
Viking-Ice	this criteria is failirue in it self if you are not network connected	15:19
jlaska	Viking-Ice: not true	15:19
adamw	ack	15:19
jlaska	Viking-Ice: it prompts and allows the user to activate the network via nm-c-editor	15:19
jlaska	(or at least that's the intended use)	15:19
Viking-Ice	and if no network present	15:19
Viking-Ice	et all	15:19
adamw	Viking-Ice: it's worded that 'the installer must be capable of'	15:19
jlaska	then install a network adapter :)	15:19
adamw	Viking-Ice: not 'all users must always be able to'	15:20
adamw	Viking-Ice: i.e., _as long as you provide it with the appropriate conditions_, the installer should be able to handle reporting bugs via the network	15:20
adamw	obviously if there's no network, that's not an infringement of this criterion :)	15:20
tflink	ok, we're at 3+ and 1-. Any other votes?	15:20
Viking-Ice	I can file another one if we block this one based on I could not save the traceback to a stick	15:21
Viking-Ice	but had to choose "logger"	15:21
jlaska	Viking-Ice: you can, but that's not explicitly covered by the above criteria	15:21
jlaska	Viking-Ice: we can discuss that after this list of bugs	15:21
tflink	#agreed 692433 - AcceptedBlocker - The installer must be able to report failures to Bugzilla, with appropriate information included"	15:21
tflink	#topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728700	15:22
tflink	#info Unhandled exeption occured Livecd RC1 spin	15:22
jlaska	oops, looks like I should move the Blocks to the other bug it got DUP'd against	15:22
jlaska	I'm not able to login to the desktop to test this issue yet, but if this is impacting all live installs, then yeah it meets Alpha criteria	15:22
jlaska	#info May impact Alpha criteria "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all primary architectures from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media "	15:23
jlaska	#link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720070 - AttributeError: 'Iso9660FS' object has no attribute 'labelType'	15:23
Viking-Ice	jlaska, happens on the dvd as well same issue	15:24
adamw	"You must be the first to try a liveusb installation with anaconda's new bootloader code on x86. I'm working on a patch."	15:24
adamw	implies that it happens to all live usb installs	15:24
jlaska	oh, so it's specific to setting the keyboard to Icelandic?	15:24
Viking-Ice	I used usb not plastic	15:24
adamw	jlaska: looks like no	15:24
adamw	jlaska: from the error type, it looks like something's assuming it's running from an optical disc-type-thing	15:25
tflink	proposed #agreed - 720070 - AcceptedBlocker - The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all primary architectures from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media	15:25
adamw	jlaska: so i expect this happens if you install via usb, whether writing a live image to usb or the dvd iso to usb	15:26
jlaska	so it's a problem when running the installer from a USB ... okay	15:26
jlaska	adamw: err, do you mean installing to a USB device?	15:26
jlaska	rather than installing _from_ a USB device?	15:26
adamw	no, i think from one.	15:26
jlaska	ah okay	15:27
adamw	i'd vote provisional +1 given that understanding: we can confirm with dlehman in the bug and revisit if we're wrong?	15:27
jlaska	we don't differentiate between the device type used when installing from ISO media	15:27
adamw	Viking-Ice: btw...your USB stick isn't made of plastic? :)	15:27
tflink	yeah, it just says live images	15:27
jlaska	but yeah, I'd be provisional +1 and we can consider adjusting the criteria as needed	15:28
adamw	we've been a bit fussy about 'supporting' install from dvd-written-to-usb before, but i think we've been pretty clear that live-written-to-usb is supported.	15:28
adamw	brb, call of nature	15:28
Viking-Ice	ack on the proposal	15:29
tflink	ok, I've got +2 on the proposal	15:29
jlaska	ack	15:29
tflink	#agreed - 720070 - AcceptedBlocker - The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all primary architectures from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media	15:29
jlaska	and we can reevaluate should more info from dlehman turn up a more precise failure condition	15:29
jlaska	s/condition/scenario/	15:29
tflink	#topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728868	15:30
tflink	#info anaconda could not parse metalink during the net installation	15:30
jlaska	This is now fixed, dgilmore added a MirrorManager redirect so that path=fedora-16-ALpha is not recognized	15:30
jlaska	however, code will be needed to ensure this bug doesn't come up every milestone	15:30
Viking-Ice	ok so close?	15:30
tflink	well, it doesn't sound like it was quite fixed yet	15:31
jlaska	Viking-Ice: no ... I'd suggest we can move this to Beta since the original problem has been resolved	15:31
tflink	it was band-aided	15:31
jlaska	but future updates are still needed	15:31
jlaska	so NTH for Alpha, or propsoed Beta maybe?	15:31
jlaska	I'd vote for NTH for Alpha ... looks like clumens has a patch out for testing already	15:32
tflink	proposed #agreed AcceptedNTH, proposed Beta Blocker - the symptoms have been band-aided and patches have been proposed to fix this in anaconda	15:32
Viking-Ice	ack	15:32
jlaska	ack	15:32
adamw	ack	15:32
tflink	#agreed AcceptedNTH, proposed Beta Blocker - the symptoms have been band-aided and patches have been proposed to fix this in anaconda	15:32
tflink	#topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728891	15:33
tflink	#info rd.luks=0 is not removed when installing with encrypted root partition '/'	15:33
Viking-Ice	hum dont think encrypted partition fall under alpha criteria	15:33
jlaska	they do	15:33
tflink	The installer must be able to complete an installation using the entire disk, existing free space, or existing Linux partitions methods, with or without encryption or LVM enabled	15:33
Viking-Ice	great yet another thing added	15:33
jlaska	yeah, what tflink said	15:33
adamw	Viking-Ice: that's been there for ages	15:33
jlaska	well, we haven't added this ... been there for some time	15:34
adamw	ever since the big criteria re-write in fact	15:34
tflink	proposed #agreed - 728891 - The installer must be able to complete an installation using the entire disk, existing free space, or existing Linux partitions methods, with or without encryption or LVM enabled	15:34
Viking-Ice	ack	15:34
jlaska	the Alpha covers install storage scenarios you can hit at the *first* partition screen ... no detailed/custom partitioning	15:34
tflink	yeah, I thought this was added F15 sometime	15:34
adamw	ack	15:34
jlaska	ack	15:34
tflink	#agreed - 728891 - The installer must be able to complete an installation using the entire disk, existing free space, or existing Linux partitions methods, with or without encryption or LVM enabled	15:34
tflink	#topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728657	15:34
tflink	#info fileconflicts failure in 16-Alpha.RC1 DVDs	15:35
adamw	Viking-Ice: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Alpha_Release_Criteria <--- read it and weep =)	15:35
jlaska	the /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/report/io/NewtIO.py conflict is already tracked in another bz, right?	15:35
adamw	as a process issue...when this test fails we should probably have multiple bugs for each conflicting package set	15:36
jlaska	yeah	15:36
adamw	a single bug is much harder to wrok with	15:36
tflink	proposed #agreed - 728891 - AcceptedBlocker - Fileconflicts are interfering with media composition	15:36
adamw	and it winds up assigned to someone who can't really fix it...	15:36
adamw	ack	15:36
Viking-Ice	ack	15:36
adamw	we need to split this out and assign each bug to an appropriate maintainer	15:36
jlaska	ack	15:37
tflink	adamw: do I hear a volunteer?	15:37
tflink	#agreed - 728891 - AcceptedBlocker - Fileconflicts are interfering with media composition	15:37
adamw	tflink: sure	15:37
adamw	jlaska: let me know if you find another report for the report conflict, i don't see one	15:37
tflink	#action adamw to split up 728891 into separate bugs and assign them appropriately	15:38
tflink	#topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728863	15:38
jlaska	adamw: will do	15:38
tflink	#info Unable to get to gdm login when booting F16-Alpha-RC1 Live media	15:38
Viking-Ice	selinux issue I belive	15:38
Viking-Ice	hit that one work for me with selinux=0	15:38
jlaska	is selinux turned on in the live image?	15:38
tflink	I didn't think it was	15:39
Viking-Ice	I would think so since the workaround for me was selinux=0 ;)	15:39
jlaska	I'm not a big fan of that as a workaround for such a common use case	15:39
jlaska	if the workaround was built into the isolinux.cfg file ... that'd be fine	15:39
adamw	jlaska: yes. selinux is always turned on.	15:39
adamw	there's a fix for this already	15:39
adamw	so all we need to do is pull it into rc2	15:39
tflink	proposed #agreed - 728863 - AcceptedBlocker - Following on from the previous criterion, after firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a system installed according to any of the above criteria (or the appropriate Beta or Final criteria, when applying this criterion to those releases) must boot to a working graphical environment without unintended user intervention	15:39
Viking-Ice	yeah we should always pull in the latest selinux-policy	15:39
jlaska	adamw: huh, sorry ... I didn't realize that was the case for live images	15:39
jlaska	tflink: ack	15:40
adamw	ack	15:40
Viking-Ice	ack	15:40
tflink	#agreed - 728863 - AcceptedBlocker - Following on from the previous criterion, after firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a system installed according to any of the above criteria (or the appropriate Beta or Final criteria, when applying this criterion to those releases) must boot to a working graphical environment without unintended user intervention	15:40
tflink	ok, that's all of the proposed blockers that I see	15:40
jlaska	Viking-Ice: did you have one you wanted to proposed?	15:41
tflink	there are no new proposed NTH and I think we can review the accepted blockers outside the meeting	15:41
jlaska	s/d?$/d?/	15:41
jlaska	ugh, nm	15:41
Viking-Ice	?	15:41
* tflink waits a minute before moving on		15:41
jlaska	Viking-Ice: you mentioned you had another bug you wanted to propose as a blocker, is that still the case?	15:41
Viking-Ice	it's equally stupid use case as the report to bugzilla as in save to disk for anaconda traceback	15:42
Viking-Ice	I rather want us to drop the other criteria	15:42
Viking-Ice	then file a new one that you cant save the traceback to stick	15:43
jlaska	so no bugs to propose then?	15:43
* tflink notes that we have another proposed alpha blocker		15:43
Viking-Ice	which is	15:43
tflink	I was waiting to see if you had one to propose	15:43
Viking-Ice	jlaska, no bugs to propose	15:43
tflink	#topic https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729053	15:43
tflink	#info traceback after first iteration of device discovery	15:43
tflink	that's an interesting one but I'm not sure it's alpha blocker material	15:44
adamw	mm...yeah	15:44
Viking-Ice	ack on blocker	15:45
adamw	it's kind of a breakage of several criteria, but depends on a specific condition: an apt-based install already on the system	15:45
adamw	so we're in the 'room for discretion' area here	15:45
jlaska	hrmm, no criteria that this hits ... so this may come down to ... right, as adamw said	15:45
jlaska	I'd support NTH and commonBugs with an updates.img worst case	15:46
* jlaska would even write the entry		15:46
tflink	so we've got +1 blocker and +1 NTH	15:46
Viking-Ice	oh let's block on "cant save to bugzilla" but not on installer craps it self on device discovery.	15:46
Viking-Ice	<sigh>	15:46
Viking-Ice	ack on blocker	15:46
Viking-Ice	allegedly this is supposed to be fixed in anaconda-16.15	15:47
Viking-Ice	perhaps confirmation from anaconda team is in order	15:47
adamw	right, but that's the post-alpha anaconda branch	15:47
adamw	we'd need this to be pulled into 16.14.x to get it into rc2	15:47
tflink	I guess I'm +1 NTH, -1 Alpha blocker, propose for beta for final blocker	15:47
jlaska	we don't have criteria for this, so this comes down to a judgement call on the expected user impact	15:47
jlaska	(or Viking-Ice [or anyone else] can propose criteria for review)	15:48
adamw	jlaska: correction: we *do* have a criterion, but it's a conditional infringemnet.	15:48
jlaska	adamw: yes, better phrased, thank you	15:48
jlaska	I'm +1 NTH, -1 Blocker	15:48
adamw	i'm probably +1 nth and +1 beta or final blocker...it's not terribly important, as since there's a fix already, if we make it NTH, we will get the fix for rc2	15:48
* maxamillion is *waaaaayyyy* late ... hopefully didn't miss the whole thing (apologies)		15:49
adamw	maxamillion: we're on blocker bugs atm	15:49
tflink	proposed #agreed - 729053 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH, proposed for F16 beta blocker - This only hits systems that already have an apt based installation, so not too many people for alpha.	15:49
maxamillion	adamw: awesome :)	15:49
jlaska	ack	15:50
Viking-Ice	nack it's an blocker a strong blocker	15:50
tflink	maxamillion: you made it in time for the last one	15:50
maxamillion	tflink: lol ... bugger :/	15:50
maxamillion	silly $dayjob getting in the way	15:50
adamw	ack	15:50
tflink	it looks like we're +1 alpha blocker, -3 alpha blocker, +3 AlphaNTH	15:50
tflink	it looks like the acks have it	15:51
tflink	#agreed - 729053 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH, proposed for F16 beta blocker - This only hits systems that already have an apt based installation, so not too many people for alpha.	15:51
tflink	alrighty, that should actually be the last of the proposed blockers this time	15:52
tflink	let's see if we can get though the other things real quick	15:52
tflink	#topic EC2 Test Day Recap	15:52
tflink	#info we had 5 people record test results during the test day	15:53
tflink	#info one new bug was filed, 3 people reproduced an old issue on the instance-store AMIs	15:53
tflink	overall, I think it went pretty well	15:53
tflink	it would have been nice to have a few more people but maybe for the F16 EC2 test day	15:53
adamw	cool	15:54
adamw	are you going to do a recap mail?	15:54
tflink	yeah, it's on my list	15:54
tflink	thanks again to athmane for putting the EC2 test cases together	15:54
tflink	the httpd test script is really nice	15:55
tflink	moving on since we're short on time	15:55
adamw	go athmane!	15:55
tflink	#topic 08-11 Test Day slot	15:55
jlaska	yeah, slick	15:55
tflink	I assume that this slot is still empty?	15:56
* tflink checks the wiki page		15:56
Viking-Ice	slots are flexible	15:56
tflink	#link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_16_test_days	15:56
Viking-Ice	if we need more we add more	15:56
adamw	Viking-Ice: it's not about that, more about that we don't have a test day for this week and i wondered if anyone had any proposals	15:56
Viking-Ice	oh expected running out of test slots	15:57
Viking-Ice	adamw, is it not more up to maintainer approaching us then ourselves hosting test days for various stuff?	15:58
adamw	Viking-Ice: both ways work	15:58
adamw	i just wanted to note that the slot's empty and wonder if anyone had plans...if not, oh well, we'll move on	15:58
adamw	not like we're not busy enough already =)	15:58
tflink	do we want to do another gnome3 test day for F16 (probably not this week, though)?	15:58
adamw	tflink: there probably should be one, yeah...	15:58
Viking-Ice	rule of thumb dont test *DE until after alpha release	15:58
tflink	yeah, I wasn't proposing it for this week	15:59
adamw	tflink: should really be a to-do for me i guess	15:59
tflink	I can't really think of any good ideas off the top of my head	15:59
tflink	and I'm not hearing any right now, either	15:59
adamw	well, let's move on then!	16:00
tflink	yep	16:00
tflink	#info send any test day suggestions to the lists	16:00
tflink	#topic Open Discussion	16:00
tflink	well, that's all that I can think of for today, any other topics?	16:00
tflink	thanks to adamw for sending out the agenda	16:00
tflink	since we're already over time, I'm setting the fuse to #endmeeting at 2 minutes	16:01
adamw	not much	16:01
adamw	if people could help with the base and desktop validation matrices that'd be great	16:01
adamw	the base tests in particular are easy	16:02
adamw	for desktop i guess you'll need to use selinux=0 =)	16:02
jlaska	#link https://kparal.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/autoqa-0-6-released/	16:02
tflink	how could I have forgotten that?	16:02
jlaska	#info yay ... autoqa-0.6.0 was released :) ... nice job autoqa-devel@	16:02
tflink	kparal: feel like doing an update on autoqa?	16:02
kparal	it surprisingly works it seems	16:02
Viking-Ice	ah how much faith is in these words	16:03
kparal	tflink: I think it's pretty much covered in the announcement	16:03
kparal	let's not waste time by repeating it	16:03
tflink	ok, works for me	16:03
jlaska	yup, sounds good	16:04
tflink	any other topics?	16:04
jlaska	When is it appropriate to start thinking about autoqa-0.6.1 (or 0.7.0)	16:04
tflink	we can set up another planning meeting for later this week or early next week	16:05
jlaska	cool, sounds good	16:05
jlaska	I've got nothing else ... happy Alpha testing everyone :)	16:05
* tflink resets fuse for 3 minutes		16:06
tflink	OK, that's all for today. Thanks for coming everyone and have fun testing the Alpha!!	16:07
tflink	will send out minutes to the list	16:08
tflink	#endmeeting	16:08

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