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= Fedora Release Engineering Meeting :: Monday 2009-03-09 = | |||
== General Summary == | |||
Various subjects relative to the upcoming beta were discussed, including: | |||
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* A new key has been created. The signing process will start today so that it actually finishes in time for the beta. | |||
* The tree will be frozen tonight so that tomorrow's rawhide will be the frozen content. | |||
* The tagging process for the beta will be the same as prior betas/releases - please open a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/newticket if you need your package moved into the beta. | |||
* Rawhide will be unfrozen no earlier than when the beta is staged for release | |||
* Orphans will be purged shortly before beta. A quick dependency analysis shows that dependencies of 'linphone' will be blocked unless they're picked up. | |||
* Meeting notes will be handled on a rotating basis by rel-eng members from now on. Thanks John for doing this task prior to this! | |||
== IRC Transcript == | |||
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| colspan="2" | *notting is here | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | ping: notting jeremy jwb rdieter lmacken spot wwoods poelcat | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | rdieter | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | here | |||
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| colspan="2" | *jwb is sort of here | |||
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| colspan="2" | *poelcat here (not taking notes :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, we gotta get a new note taker. | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | NOT IT | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | what the heck. i'll do it today | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | ok. I recently switched irc clients and I'm not quite sure how the logging is going to work out | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks notting | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | AAAAAH! The BETA is upon us!! | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | lets review the tickets. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | .rel 1148 | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #488888" | f13: #1148 (Sign dist-f11 contents for beta) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1148 | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | do we have a new humongous key? | |||
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| colspan="2" | >poelcat<where do you normally send rel-eng meeting notes? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | this one is on mewe do | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | er sorry got distracted | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | This one is on me. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I have a new huge key, and I was playing with it and sign_unsigned prior to the koji outage. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I haven't yet signed anything and imported it inot koji. I will be doing that today | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | as well as getting the huge key into fedora-release | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | are you going to distribute it to the people that can sign things? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else on signing? I may have to resurrect sign2 in order to get everything signed in time | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | if you need help, holler | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | k | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | .rel 1150 | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #488888" | f13: #1150 (Create freeze for Fedora 11 Beta) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1150 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | This will happen tonight. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I'm going to create the f11-beta tag, cloned from dist-f11 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | then I'll either run it manually or setup an at job to refresh f11-beta from dist-f11 just before the rawhide compose. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | dist-rawhide will change its inheritance to f11-beta today as well | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so tomorrow's rawhide will be the frozen content | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | any thoughts on this? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | do we have the proper stuff set up in trac for requests? | |||
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! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | wwoods | |||
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | when do we plan to do branching / start making F12 rawhide? I know we'd talked about doing it earlier on, but | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | notting: what do you mean by "the proper stuff" ? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | wwoods: that's ticket 1162 | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | f13: milestones, etc | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | notting: I'm not sure what we are supposed to do differently than what we have right now? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | f13: nothing different, just verifying the milestones actually got created. which they are (and probably were a long time ago) | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, we've got all the milestones up through F11 final | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I used offtrac to file them all programatically | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | rdieter | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | and SOP for breaking freeze as before? 2 +1's, and tag dist-f11 ? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | tag f11-beta, no? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tag f11-beta | |||
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! style="background-color: #42427e" | rdieter | |||
| style="color: #42427e" | oh right | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | the package would already be tagged dist-f11 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | any other freeze questions? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | other than 'ugh, too much stuff to do', no | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | heh | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | .rel 1151 1152 1153 | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #488888" | f13: (rel <number>) -- Return the name and URL of a rel-eng ticket. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | oh bah | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so tickets 1151-1153 are the compose tickets, compose the install tree, the live images, and the "spins" | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | not a whole lot to talk about here, just work to do. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | supposedly the ext4 live image bug got fixed, so once we update compose-x86 we'll be OK there | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | although I think there are still some livecd-creator bugs outstanding. I thought jeremy was working on it, but... | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so that is a danger. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | The install tree should be pretty good, I was testing the compose tools last week and they were producing the right stuff. I jsut did a build of pungi that fixes some splittree issues too | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | our CDs will be much better utilized for size, which means you can do a text install from CD1 on both x86 and x86_64, I haven't tested ppc | |||
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| style="color: #818144" | neat | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | f13: are we still under a dvd on all arches? | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | ppc would be the good indicator there | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | i think we've had to trim off packages for it for a while now | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | jwb: can you see that compose-ppc gets updated today? | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | f13, what is compose-ppc? | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | and then, sure | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | compose-ppc is the host in PHX where we compose the ppc tree | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | the analog of compose-x86 | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | updated via yum? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | yeah, it may already be updated, not sure, but probably could use another update, and a reboot, which may need babysitting | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | on it | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | actually | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | it hates me | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | won't let me login | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | heh, so maybe it needs more help :/ | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks for taking that. | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | np | |||
|| [[#tMar 09 14:30:45|Mar 09 14:30]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | tickets 1155 and 1156 are staging the bits | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I'm going to try staging them all on /mnt/koji/ (which is avail via kojipkgs) complete with package list so that we can see the tree as a whole and run verifytree and such on it | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I'll also use alt.fedora to toss up isos for consumption by QA and such | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | dgilmore | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | f13: do we have torrent seeders ready? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | dgilmore: no, I think the tickets say to ping in #fedora-admin to find pre-seeders | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | dgilmore | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | ok | |||
|| [[#tMar 09 14:32:25|Mar 09 14:32]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | any other questions on staging? | |||
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| colspan="2" | *nirik can pre-seed given enough notice. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | alright. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | .1159 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | .rel 1159 | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | people should be cross testing damnit | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #488888" | f13: #1159 (Unfreeze Rawhide) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1159 | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | oops, wrong keyboard. sorry | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | jwb: i know testing makes me cross | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | heh | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | unfreezing rawhide will likely happen when we stage the bits for release | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | hopefully we won't be under time pressure to get the beta synced and we'll have a number of days and thus unfreezing rawhide won't pose a threat to getting beta synced in time | |||
|| [[#tMar 09 14:36:10|Mar 09 14:36]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | but if we're under time pressure, rawhide unfreeze may have to wait until after Beta GA | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | .rel 1161 | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #488888" | f13: #1161 (Release Fedora 11 Beta) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1161 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | Release day requires coordination with various folks from various groups, like the websites group | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | poelcat: will you be scheduling a meeting for beta release coordination? | |||
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! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | quaid | |||
| style="color: #4d4d93" | it's on the schedule(s) fwiw; 18 March iirc. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok. | |||
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| colspan="2" | *quaid sees it on http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-docs-tasks.html but not on the master schedule page there | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | wning. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | sorry. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | lets assume that its happening. | |||
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | poelcat | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | f13 yes | |||
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! style="background-color: #97974f" | poelcat | |||
| style="color: #97974f" | will send out announce, etc. today or tomorrow | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ok, thanks. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | pardon me for a moment. Evolution just put me into a I/O storm | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #488888" | f13: #1162 (Allow early branching of packages for F-11) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1162 | |||
|| [[#tMar 09 14:48:29|Mar 09 14:48]] | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | This is the ticket that covers early-branching. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | We've gotten the rawhide composes down fast enough that we could consider doing a second compose | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | we don't have to mirror that second compose necessarily, just plop it somewhere in /mnt/koji | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | would be more useful if we had automated tests to go with that | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #488888" | f13: #1190 (Give mirrors heads up on Fedora 11 Beta content) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1190 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | this should actually be done just as we're staging the bits | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #488888" | f13: #1154 (Give Legal heads up on Beta release) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1154 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | same with this one | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | .rel 1236 | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #488888" | f13: #1236 (block orphaned rawhide packages) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1236 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | This will actually be done today | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I've got to gen the list again and block 'em | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | f13: does that cause dependency fallout? | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | notting: we'll see (: | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I'll run some tests today, the number of packages is smaller | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | dgilmore | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | f13: we allow early branching once we release Beta correct? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | f13: hrm, pulls in something called 'linphone' | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | dgilmore | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | notting: linphone is a sip client | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | wow, multitasking. someone pressed the updates button during the meeting :) | |||
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | dgilmore | |||
| style="color: #4b904b" | not as featureful as ekiga/twinkle | |||
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! style="background-color: #9b519b" | rsc | |||
| style="color: #9b519b" | Blockling libosXip or so breaks linphone AFAIK. Or was it compat-libosip? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | libeXosip2 and compat-libosip2 | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | were both orphaned | |||
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! style="background-color: #539e9e" | nirik | |||
| style="color: #539e9e" | linphone I thought was utterly dead upstream... for many years. | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | it may be, it was just the only thing in the --whatrequires query that wasn't also part of the orphan list | |||
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! style="background-color: #539e9e" | nirik | |||
| style="color: #539e9e" | I guess they revived it... there was a new release late last year. | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | and the last ticket is | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
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! style="background-color: #488888" | zodbot | |||
| style="color: #488888" | f13: #1275 (Find New RelEng Meeting Recapper) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1275 | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | I think we could handle this the way that fesco does, rotate who does notes/reporting each week | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | so notting does this week, somebody else will do next week | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | ya'll OK with that? | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | f13: given where the recaps were mirrored, you or i may have to do work in any case | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | notting: sure, but that's just a fwrd: | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | We're at our hour mark, but the floor is open for any last minute topics. | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | otherwise the wife is yelling at me to join the family for lunch | |||
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| style="color: #818144" | so updates | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | jwb: yes? | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | they were broken over the weekend | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | lmacken fixed them and i have a huge push going right now | |||
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| style="color: #818144" | the firefox security update went out on sat with manual work | |||
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! style="background-color: #818144" | jwb | |||
| style="color: #818144" | EOM | |||
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | f13 | |||
| style="color: #407a40" | jwb: thanks for that. I was going to push ff, but I got roped into family things this weekend | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | and then I had to do designated driver duty for a friend | |||
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| style="color: #818144" | f13, no worries | |||
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| style="color: #818144" | the new option helped there | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | (but not every day you get to drive a corvette through a snowstorm in seattle) | |||
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| style="color: #818144" | nice! :) | |||
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| style="color: #854685" | 'snowstorm'? weird. :) | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | notting: it really was. Snow was sticking to I-5 and it was coming down /hard/. | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | bizarre for March | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | well it was 50° in Tacoma when I got home that night | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | there was just a nasty pocket of snow on the way | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | looks like we're off topic a bit though. | |||
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! style="background-color: #854685" | notting | |||
| style="color: #854685" | just a tad | |||
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| style="color: #407a40" | ok, thanks all for the meeting! | |||
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Fedora Release Engineering Meeting :: Monday 2009-03-09
General Summary
Various subjects relative to the upcoming beta were discussed, including:
- A new key has been created. The signing process will start today so that it actually finishes in time for the beta.
- The tree will be frozen tonight so that tomorrow's rawhide will be the frozen content.
- The tagging process for the beta will be the same as prior betas/releases - please open a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/newticket if you need your package moved into the beta.
- Rawhide will be unfrozen no earlier than when the beta is staged for release
- Orphans will be purged shortly before beta. A quick dependency analysis shows that dependencies of 'linphone' will be blocked unless they're picked up.
- Meeting notes will be handled on a rotating basis by rel-eng members from now on. Thanks John for doing this task prior to this!
IRC Transcript
| ---f13 has changed the topic to: Fedora Release Engineering Meeting - Roll Call | Mar 09 14:01 | |
| *notting is here | Mar 09 14:01 | |
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| f13 | ping: notting jeremy jwb rdieter lmacken spot wwoods poelcat | Mar 09 14:01 |
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| rdieter | here | Mar 09 14:02 |
| *jwb is sort of here | Mar 09 14:02 | |
| *poelcat here (not taking notes :) | Mar 09 14:02 | |
| f13 | yeah, we gotta get a new note taker. | Mar 09 14:03 |
| jwb | NOT IT | Mar 09 14:03 |
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| notting | what the heck. i'll do it today | Mar 09 14:03 |
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| f13 | ok. I recently switched irc clients and I'm not quite sure how the logging is going to work out | Mar 09 14:05 |
| f13 | thanks notting | Mar 09 14:05 |
| ---f13 has changed the topic to: Fedora releng - BETA!!! | Mar 09 14:05 | |
| f13 | AAAAAH! The BETA is upon us!! | Mar 09 14:05 |
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| f13 | lets review the tickets. | Mar 09 14:05 |
| f13 | .rel 1148 | Mar 09 14:05 |
| zodbot | f13: #1148 (Sign dist-f11 contents for beta) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1148 | Mar 09 14:06 |
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| notting | do we have a new humongous key? | Mar 09 14:07 |
| >poelcat<where do you normally send rel-eng meeting notes? | Mar 09 14:07 | |
| f13 | this one is on mewe do | Mar 09 14:07 |
| f13 | er sorry got distracted | Mar 09 14:07 |
| f13 | This one is on me. | Mar 09 14:08 |
| f13 | I have a new huge key, and I was playing with it and sign_unsigned prior to the koji outage. | Mar 09 14:08 |
| f13 | I haven't yet signed anything and imported it inot koji. I will be doing that today | Mar 09 14:08 |
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| f13 | as well as getting the huge key into fedora-release | Mar 09 14:08 |
| jwb | are you going to distribute it to the people that can sign things? | Mar 09 14:08 |
| f13 | yeah | Mar 09 14:09 |
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| f13 | anything else on signing? I may have to resurrect sign2 in order to get everything signed in time | Mar 09 14:10 |
| jwb | if you need help, holler | Mar 09 14:11 |
| f13 | k | Mar 09 14:11 |
| f13 | .rel 1150 | Mar 09 14:11 |
| zodbot | f13: #1150 (Create freeze for Fedora 11 Beta) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1150 | Mar 09 14:11 |
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| f13 | This will happen tonight. | Mar 09 14:11 |
| f13 | I'm going to create the f11-beta tag, cloned from dist-f11 | Mar 09 14:11 |
| f13 | then I'll either run it manually or setup an at job to refresh f11-beta from dist-f11 just before the rawhide compose. | Mar 09 14:12 |
| f13 | dist-rawhide will change its inheritance to f11-beta today as well | Mar 09 14:12 |
| f13 | so tomorrow's rawhide will be the frozen content | Mar 09 14:12 |
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| f13 | any thoughts on this? | Mar 09 14:13 |
| notting | do we have the proper stuff set up in trac for requests? | Mar 09 14:14 |
| wwoods | when do we plan to do branching / start making F12 rawhide? I know we'd talked about doing it earlier on, but | Mar 09 14:14 |
| f13 | notting: what do you mean by "the proper stuff" ? | Mar 09 14:14 |
| f13 | wwoods: that's ticket 1162 | Mar 09 14:15 |
| notting | f13: milestones, etc | Mar 09 14:15 |
| f13 | notting: I'm not sure what we are supposed to do differently than what we have right now? | Mar 09 14:15 |
| notting | f13: nothing different, just verifying the milestones actually got created. which they are (and probably were a long time ago) | Mar 09 14:15 |
| f13 | yeah, we've got all the milestones up through F11 final | Mar 09 14:16 |
| f13 | I used offtrac to file them all programatically | Mar 09 14:16 |
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| rdieter | and SOP for breaking freeze as before? 2 +1's, and tag dist-f11 ? | Mar 09 14:17 |
| notting | tag f11-beta, no? | Mar 09 14:18 |
| f13 | tag f11-beta | Mar 09 14:18 |
| rdieter | oh right | Mar 09 14:18 |
| f13 | the package would already be tagged dist-f11 | Mar 09 14:18 |
| f13 | any other freeze questions? | Mar 09 14:19 |
| notting | other than 'ugh, too much stuff to do', no | Mar 09 14:19 |
| f13 | heh | Mar 09 14:20 |
| f13 | .rel 1151 1152 1153 | Mar 09 14:20 |
| zodbot | f13: (rel <number>) -- Return the name and URL of a rel-eng ticket. | Mar 09 14:20 |
| f13 | oh bah | Mar 09 14:20 |
| f13 | so tickets 1151-1153 are the compose tickets, compose the install tree, the live images, and the "spins" | Mar 09 14:20 |
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| f13 | not a whole lot to talk about here, just work to do. | Mar 09 14:22 |
| f13 | supposedly the ext4 live image bug got fixed, so once we update compose-x86 we'll be OK there | Mar 09 14:22 |
| f13 | although I think there are still some livecd-creator bugs outstanding. I thought jeremy was working on it, but... | Mar 09 14:23 |
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| f13 | so that is a danger. | Mar 09 14:24 |
| f13 | The install tree should be pretty good, I was testing the compose tools last week and they were producing the right stuff. I jsut did a build of pungi that fixes some splittree issues too | Mar 09 14:25 |
| f13 | our CDs will be much better utilized for size, which means you can do a text install from CD1 on both x86 and x86_64, I haven't tested ppc | Mar 09 14:25 |
| jwb | neat | Mar 09 14:25 |
| notting | f13: are we still under a dvd on all arches? | Mar 09 14:26 |
| jwb | ppc would be the good indicator there | Mar 09 14:26 |
| jwb | i think we've had to trim off packages for it for a while now | Mar 09 14:26 |
| f13 | yeah | Mar 09 14:27 |
| f13 | jwb: can you see that compose-ppc gets updated today? | Mar 09 14:28 |
| jwb | f13, what is compose-ppc? | Mar 09 14:28 |
| jwb | and then, sure | Mar 09 14:28 |
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| f13 | compose-ppc is the host in PHX where we compose the ppc tree | Mar 09 14:29 |
| f13 | the analog of compose-x86 | Mar 09 14:29 |
| jwb | updated via yum? | Mar 09 14:29 |
| f13 | yeah, it may already be updated, not sure, but probably could use another update, and a reboot, which may need babysitting | Mar 09 14:29 |
| jwb | on it | Mar 09 14:29 |
| jwb | actually | Mar 09 14:29 |
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| jwb | it hates me | Mar 09 14:29 |
| jwb | won't let me login | Mar 09 14:29 |
| f13 | heh, so maybe it needs more help :/ | Mar 09 14:30 |
| f13 | thanks for taking that. | Mar 09 14:30 |
| jwb | np | Mar 09 14:30 |
| f13 | tickets 1155 and 1156 are staging the bits | Mar 09 14:30 |
| f13 | I'm going to try staging them all on /mnt/koji/ (which is avail via kojipkgs) complete with package list so that we can see the tree as a whole and run verifytree and such on it | Mar 09 14:31 |
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| f13 | I'll also use alt.fedora to toss up isos for consumption by QA and such | Mar 09 14:31 |
| dgilmore | f13: do we have torrent seeders ready? | Mar 09 14:32 |
| f13 | dgilmore: no, I think the tickets say to ping in #fedora-admin to find pre-seeders | Mar 09 14:32 |
| dgilmore | ok | Mar 09 14:32 |
| f13 | any other questions on staging? | Mar 09 14:32 |
| *nirik can pre-seed given enough notice. | Mar 09 14:32 | |
| f13 | alright. | Mar 09 14:35 |
| f13 | .1159 | Mar 09 14:35 |
| f13 | .rel 1159 | Mar 09 14:35 |
| jwb | people should be cross testing damnit | Mar 09 14:35 |
| zodbot | f13: #1159 (Unfreeze Rawhide) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1159 | Mar 09 14:35 |
| jwb | oops, wrong keyboard. sorry | Mar 09 14:35 |
| notting | jwb: i know testing makes me cross | Mar 09 14:35 |
| jwb | heh | Mar 09 14:35 |
| f13 | unfreezing rawhide will likely happen when we stage the bits for release | Mar 09 14:35 |
| f13 | hopefully we won't be under time pressure to get the beta synced and we'll have a number of days and thus unfreezing rawhide won't pose a threat to getting beta synced in time | Mar 09 14:36 |
| f13 | but if we're under time pressure, rawhide unfreeze may have to wait until after Beta GA | Mar 09 14:36 |
| f13 | .rel 1161 | Mar 09 14:37 |
| zodbot | f13: #1161 (Release Fedora 11 Beta) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1161 | Mar 09 14:37 |
| f13 | Release day requires coordination with various folks from various groups, like the websites group | Mar 09 14:37 |
| f13 | poelcat: will you be scheduling a meeting for beta release coordination? | Mar 09 14:37 |
| quaid | it's on the schedule(s) fwiw; 18 March iirc. | Mar 09 14:40 |
| f13 | ok. | Mar 09 14:40 |
| *quaid sees it on http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-docs-tasks.html but not on the master schedule page there | Mar 09 14:41 | |
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| f13 | wning. | Mar 09 14:43 |
| f13 | sorry. | Mar 09 14:43 |
| f13 | lets assume that its happening. | Mar 09 14:43 |
| poelcat | f13 yes | Mar 09 14:43 |
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| poelcat | will send out announce, etc. today or tomorrow | Mar 09 14:44 |
| f13 | ok, thanks. | Mar 09 14:44 |
| f13 | pardon me for a moment. Evolution just put me into a I/O storm | Mar 09 14:45 |
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| f13 | .rel 1162 | Mar 09 14:48 |
| zodbot | f13: #1162 (Allow early branching of packages for F-11) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1162 | Mar 09 14:48 |
| f13 | This is the ticket that covers early-branching. | Mar 09 14:48 |
| f13 | We've gotten the rawhide composes down fast enough that we could consider doing a second compose | Mar 09 14:48 |
| f13 | we don't have to mirror that second compose necessarily, just plop it somewhere in /mnt/koji | Mar 09 14:49 |
| f13 | would be more useful if we had automated tests to go with that | Mar 09 14:49 |
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| f13 | .rel 1190 | Mar 09 14:51 |
| zodbot | f13: #1190 (Give mirrors heads up on Fedora 11 Beta content) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1190 | Mar 09 14:51 |
| f13 | this should actually be done just as we're staging the bits | Mar 09 14:51 |
| f13 | .rel 1154 | Mar 09 14:51 |
| zodbot | f13: #1154 (Give Legal heads up on Beta release) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1154 | Mar 09 14:51 |
| f13 | same with this one | Mar 09 14:51 |
| f13 | .rel 1236 | Mar 09 14:51 |
| zodbot | f13: #1236 (block orphaned rawhide packages) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1236 | Mar 09 14:51 |
| f13 | This will actually be done today | Mar 09 14:51 |
| f13 | I've got to gen the list again and block 'em | Mar 09 14:52 |
| notting | f13: does that cause dependency fallout? | Mar 09 14:52 |
| f13 | notting: we'll see (: | Mar 09 14:52 |
| f13 | I'll run some tests today, the number of packages is smaller | Mar 09 14:52 |
| dgilmore | f13: we allow early branching once we release Beta correct? | Mar 09 14:52 |
| notting | f13: hrm, pulls in something called 'linphone' | Mar 09 14:54 |
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| dgilmore | notting: linphone is a sip client | Mar 09 14:55 |
| notting | wow, multitasking. someone pressed the updates button during the meeting :) | Mar 09 14:55 |
| dgilmore | not as featureful as ekiga/twinkle | Mar 09 14:55 |
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| rsc | Blockling libosXip or so breaks linphone AFAIK. Or was it compat-libosip? | Mar 09 14:56 |
| notting | libeXosip2 and compat-libosip2 | Mar 09 14:56 |
| notting | were both orphaned | Mar 09 14:56 |
| nirik | linphone I thought was utterly dead upstream... for many years. | Mar 09 14:56 |
| notting | it may be, it was just the only thing in the --whatrequires query that wasn't also part of the orphan list | Mar 09 14:56 |
| nirik | I guess they revived it... there was a new release late last year. | Mar 09 14:57 |
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| f13 | and the last ticket is | Mar 09 14:59 |
| f13 | .rel 1275 | Mar 09 14:59 |
| zodbot | f13: #1275 (Find New RelEng Meeting Recapper) - Fedora Release Engineering - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1275 | Mar 09 14:59 |
| f13 | I think we could handle this the way that fesco does, rotate who does notes/reporting each week | Mar 09 15:00 |
| f13 | so notting does this week, somebody else will do next week | Mar 09 15:00 |
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| f13 | ya'll OK with that? | Mar 09 15:00 |
| notting | f13: given where the recaps were mirrored, you or i may have to do work in any case | Mar 09 15:01 |
| f13 | notting: sure, but that's just a fwrd: | Mar 09 15:01 |
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| f13 | We're at our hour mark, but the floor is open for any last minute topics. | Mar 09 15:03 |
| f13 | otherwise the wife is yelling at me to join the family for lunch | Mar 09 15:03 |
| jwb | so updates | Mar 09 15:03 |
| f13 | jwb: yes? | Mar 09 15:03 |
| jwb | they were broken over the weekend | Mar 09 15:03 |
| jwb | lmacken fixed them and i have a huge push going right now | Mar 09 15:04 |
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| jwb | the firefox security update went out on sat with manual work | Mar 09 15:04 |
| jwb | EOM | Mar 09 15:04 |
| f13 | jwb: thanks for that. I was going to push ff, but I got roped into family things this weekend | Mar 09 15:05 |
| f13 | and then I had to do designated driver duty for a friend | Mar 09 15:05 |
| jwb | f13, no worries | Mar 09 15:05 |
| jwb | the new option helped there | Mar 09 15:05 |
| f13 | (but not every day you get to drive a corvette through a snowstorm in seattle) | Mar 09 15:05 |
| jwb | nice! :) | Mar 09 15:05 |
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| notting | 'snowstorm'? weird. :) | Mar 09 15:06 |
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| f13 | notting: it really was. Snow was sticking to I-5 and it was coming down /hard/. | Mar 09 15:07 |
| f13 | bizarre for March | Mar 09 15:07 |
| notting | f13: come to NC, it's 80F here | Mar 09 15:07 |
| f13 | well it was 50° in Tacoma when I got home that night | Mar 09 15:08 |
| f13 | there was just a nasty pocket of snow on the way | Mar 09 15:08 |
| f13 | looks like we're off topic a bit though. | Mar 09 15:08 |
| notting | just a tad | Mar 09 15:08 |
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| f13 | ok, thanks all for the meeting! | Mar 09 15:11 |
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