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* beta is closer but not yet complete
* beta is closer but not yet complete
* most remaining issues are due to the storage rewrite
* most remaining issues are due to the storage rewrite
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results could do with more completeness and reporting by more people.
* [[QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results]] could do with more completeness and reporting by more people.
* requests for package inclusion have all been handled.
* requests for package inclusion have all been handled.
*  there will be a few more last minute packages to go in then get beta spun tested and out to mirrors.
*  there will be a few more last minute packages to go in then get beta spun tested and out to mirrors.


== IRC Transcript ==
== IRC Transcript ==
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{|
|-
| colspan="3" | --- Log opened Mon Mar 23 00:00:08 2009
|- id="t13:06"
| colspan="2" | -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Release Engineering Meeting - Roll Call
|| [[#t13:06|13:06]]
|- id="t13:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | ping: notting jeremy jwb_ spot lmacken rdieter wwoods poelcat
|| [[#t13:06|13:06]]
|- id="t13:06"
| colspan="2" | * jwb_ is here for 24 min
|| [[#t13:06|13:06]]
|- id="t13:06"
! style="background-color: #42427e" |  rdieter
| style="color: #42427e" | here
|| [[#t13:06|13:06]]
|- id="t13:07"
| colspan="2" | * notting is here
|| [[#t13:07|13:07]]
|- id="t13:07"
| colspan="2" | * spot wonders why this meeting is an hour late
|| [[#t13:07|13:07]]
|- id="t13:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | spot: it isn't.  This meeting doesn't change with DST
|| [[#t13:07|13:07]]
|- id="t13:08"
! style="background-color: #818144" |  spot
| style="color: #818144" | oh kay.
|| [[#t13:08|13:08]]
|- id="t13:08"
! style="background-color: #854685" |  skvidal
| style="color: #854685" | spot: probably safest to stop asking questions about time :)
|| [[#t13:08|13:08]]
|- id="t13:08"
! style="background-color: #488888" |  jwb_
| style="color: #488888" | because of all those non-US rel-eng memebers
|| [[#t13:08|13:08]]
|- id="t13:09"
| colspan="2" | * dgilmore is here
|| [[#t13:09|13:09]]
|- id="t13:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | well I had thought the status quo was to not change meetings for DST
|| [[#t13:09|13:09]]
|- id="t13:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | at least for meetings in this room.
|| [[#t13:09|13:09]]
|- id="t13:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | anyway.
|| [[#t13:09|13:09]]
|- id="t13:09"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" |  dgilmore
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | f13: its supposed to be
|| [[#t13:09|13:09]]
|- id="t13:09"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" |  dgilmore
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | people forget that
|| [[#t13:09|13:09]]
|- id="t13:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | dgilmore: did you want to be a more active member of releng, and pinged at meeting starts?
|| [[#t13:09|13:09]]
|- id="t13:12"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" |  dgilmore
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | f13: yeah.  im trying to take a more active roll
|| [[#t13:12|13:12]]
|- id="t13:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | sweet!
|| [[#t13:12|13:12]]
|- id="t13:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | dgilmore: you can start by being the note taker today (:
|| [[#t13:12|13:12]]
|- id="t13:13"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" |  dgilmore
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | f13: ok
|| [[#t13:13|13:13]]
|- id="t13:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | with that out of the way
|| [[#t13:13|13:13]]
|- id="t13:13"
| colspan="2" | -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - BETA BETA BETA BETHAHAUAUUGGUGLGLGLA
|| [[#t13:13|13:13]]
|- id="t13:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | ahem.
|| [[#t13:13|13:13]]
|- id="t13:14"
! style="background-color: #42427e" |  rdieter
| style="color: #42427e" | nuf said
|| [[#t13:14|13:14]]
|- id="t13:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | so beta is still not in the can.
|| [[#t13:14|13:14]]
|- id="t13:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | closer, ever closer.
|| [[#t13:14|13:14]]
|- id="t13:14"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" |  dgilmore
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | whats left?
|| [[#t13:14|13:14]]
|- id="t13:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Beta&hide_resolved=1
|| [[#t13:14|13:14]]
|- id="t13:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | mostly storage stuff.
|| [[#t13:14|13:14]]
|- id="t13:16"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" |  dgilmore
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | :)  ok
|| [[#t13:16|13:16]]
|- id="t13:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | there is a high chance that tomorrow's rawhide is "it"
|| [[#t13:16|13:16]]
|- id="t13:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | I've got some split media being uploaded now for further install tests of different varieties
|| [[#t13:16|13:16]]
|- id="t13:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | [[QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results]] doesn't look too terrible, although a little blank
|| [[#t13:18|13:18]]
|- id="t13:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | and devoid of any reporters besides jlaska and myself
|| [[#t13:18|13:18]]
|- id="t13:19"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | should we go through and either tag or close out the remaining tag requests?
|| [[#t13:19|13:19]]
|- id="t13:20"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" |  wwoods
| style="color: #4d4d93" | some of them can wait 'til post-beta, can't they?
|| [[#t13:20|13:20]]
|- id="t13:20"
! style="background-color: #42427e" |  rdieter
| style="color: #42427e" | unless it's a blocker, close 'em.
|| [[#t13:20|13:20]]
|- id="t13:21"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" |  wwoods
| style="color: #4d4d93" | why close? won't they still need tagging after Beta?
|| [[#t13:21|13:21]]
|- id="t13:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | no they won't
|| [[#t13:21|13:21]]
|- id="t13:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | once beta is out rawhide unfreezes
|| [[#t13:21|13:21]]
|- id="t13:21"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" |  wwoods
| style="color: #4d4d93" | oh huh. I thought we froze after Beta for some reason
|| [[#t13:21|13:21]]
|- id="t13:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | we don't freeze again until the final devel freeze
|| [[#t13:21|13:21]]
|- id="t13:23"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | all the compose stuff seems to be in order, so its just a matter of getting the golden package set, then spending a day making isos and shuffling them around for final verification and release to the mirrors
|| [[#t13:23|13:23]]
|- id="t13:23"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | rdieter: well, we tagged some broken dep stuff even though they weren't blockers
|| [[#t13:23|13:23]]
|- id="t13:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | anywho, that's where we're at with beta.
|| [[#t13:26|13:26]]
|- id="t13:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | any questions?
|| [[#t13:26|13:26]]
|- id="t13:27"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | other than as above, no
|| [[#t13:27|13:27]]
|- id="t13:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | notting: what outstanding tag requests exist?
|| [[#t13:27|13:27]]
|- id="t13:27"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | here, let me trac that for you. :P
|| [[#t13:27|13:27]]
|- id="t13:27"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | 1419 - gdal/grass
|| [[#t13:27|13:27]]
|- id="t13:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | that one isn't even built yet
|| [[#t13:28|13:28]]
|- id="t13:28"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | 1403 - libcgroup (uncommenting default config makes system not boot)
|| [[#t13:28|13:28]]
|- id="t13:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | so hard to tag it.
|| [[#t13:28|13:28]]
|- id="t13:28"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | 1420 - K-3D (fixes broken deps)
|| [[#t13:28|13:28]]
|- id="t13:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | is libcgroup even installed by default or available to install by default?
|| [[#t13:28|13:28]]
|- id="t13:29"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | and 1421 - gnome-screensaver randomly dims and blanks the screen
|| [[#t13:29|13:29]]
|- id="t13:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | I'm for K-3D and gnome-screensaver
|| [[#t13:29|13:29]]
|- id="t13:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | see my question about libcgroup
|| [[#t13:29|13:29]]
|- id="t13:30"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | yeah, well yum is slow. gimme a sec.
|| [[#t13:30|13:30]]
|- id="t13:30"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | nope, not pulled in by anything. so it can wait
|| [[#t13:30|13:30]]
|- id="t13:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | k
|| [[#t13:30|13:30]]
|- id="t13:31"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | will we tag gdal/grass if it's built?
|| [[#t13:31|13:31]]
|- id="t13:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | probably, we've been tagging things for broken deps
|| [[#t13:31|13:31]]
|- id="t13:31"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | as a courtesy to rawhide users
|| [[#t13:31|13:31]]
|- id="t13:31"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | ok, gnome-screensaver-2.26.0-1.fc11 k3d-0.7.11.0-1.fc11 both tagged, if you want to sign them
|| [[#t13:31|13:31]]
|- id="t13:32"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | signs signs, everywhere there are signs
|| [[#t13:32|13:32]]
|- id="t13:34"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" |  notting
| style="color: #4b904b" | how blocker-y is the blocker list. are there any there we won't slip for?
|| [[#t13:34|13:34]]
|- id="t13:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | btrfs is iffy
|| [[#t13:34|13:34]]
|- id="t13:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | but that's already fixed I think.
|| [[#t13:34|13:34]]
|- id="t13:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | ppc ide disks is also iffy, that should just be ppc minis or other older macs
|| [[#t13:34|13:34]]
|- id="t13:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | the rest seem pretty blockery to me
|| [[#t13:35|13:35]]
|- id="t13:36"
| colspan="2" | * notting tosses another LVM error on the list :/
|| [[#t13:36|13:36]]
|- id="t13:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | oof.
|| [[#t13:36|13:36]]
|- id="t13:37"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | our world was so much better before lvm
|| [[#t13:37|13:37]]
|- id="t13:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | anything else?  The floor is open
|| [[#t13:39|13:39]]
|- id="t13:39"
| colspan="2" | * wwoods mumbles, starts updating http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WillWoods/Features/NoDefaultLVM
|| [[#t13:39|13:39]]
|- id="t13:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | Looks like no, time to call the meeting and get back on our heads.
|| [[#t13:42|13:42]]
|- id="t13:42"
| colspan="2" | -!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel for meeting schedule
|| [[#t13:42|13:42]]
|- id="t13:42"
! style="background-color: #407a40" |  f13
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks all
|| [[#t13:42|13:42]]
|- id="t13:45"
|}


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Fedora Release Engineering Meeting :: Monday 2009-03-23

General Summary

Various subjects relative to the upcoming beta were discussed, including:

  • beta is closer but not yet complete
  • most remaining issues are due to the storage rewrite
  • QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results could do with more completeness and reporting by more people.
  • requests for package inclusion have all been handled.
  • there will be a few more last minute packages to go in then get beta spun tested and out to mirrors.

IRC Transcript

--- Log opened Mon Mar 23 00:00:08 2009
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Release Engineering Meeting - Roll Call 13:06
f13 ping: notting jeremy jwb_ spot lmacken rdieter wwoods poelcat 13:06
* jwb_ is here for 24 min 13:06
rdieter here 13:06
* notting is here 13:07
* spot wonders why this meeting is an hour late 13:07
f13 spot: it isn't. This meeting doesn't change with DST 13:07
spot oh kay. 13:08
skvidal spot: probably safest to stop asking questions about time :) 13:08
jwb_ because of all those non-US rel-eng memebers 13:08
* dgilmore is here 13:09
f13 well I had thought the status quo was to not change meetings for DST 13:09
f13 at least for meetings in this room. 13:09
f13 anyway. 13:09
dgilmore f13: its supposed to be 13:09
dgilmore people forget that 13:09
f13 dgilmore: did you want to be a more active member of releng, and pinged at meeting starts? 13:09
dgilmore f13: yeah. im trying to take a more active roll 13:12
f13 sweet! 13:12
f13 dgilmore: you can start by being the note taker today (: 13:12
dgilmore f13: ok 13:13
f13 with that out of the way 13:13
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora releng - BETA BETA BETA BETHAHAUAUUGGUGLGLGLA 13:13
f13 ahem. 13:13
rdieter nuf said 13:14
f13 so beta is still not in the can. 13:14
f13 closer, ever closer. 13:14
dgilmore whats left? 13:14
f13 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Beta&hide_resolved=1 13:14
f13 mostly storage stuff. 13:14
dgilmore :) ok 13:16
f13 there is a high chance that tomorrow's rawhide is "it" 13:16
f13 I've got some split media being uploaded now for further install tests of different varieties 13:16
f13 QA:Fedora_11_Beta_Install_Test_Results doesn't look too terrible, although a little blank 13:18
f13 and devoid of any reporters besides jlaska and myself 13:18
notting should we go through and either tag or close out the remaining tag requests? 13:19
wwoods some of them can wait 'til post-beta, can't they? 13:20
rdieter unless it's a blocker, close 'em. 13:20
wwoods why close? won't they still need tagging after Beta? 13:21
f13 no they won't 13:21
f13 once beta is out rawhide unfreezes 13:21
wwoods oh huh. I thought we froze after Beta for some reason 13:21
f13 we don't freeze again until the final devel freeze 13:21
f13 all the compose stuff seems to be in order, so its just a matter of getting the golden package set, then spending a day making isos and shuffling them around for final verification and release to the mirrors 13:23
notting rdieter: well, we tagged some broken dep stuff even though they weren't blockers 13:23
f13 anywho, that's where we're at with beta. 13:26
f13 any questions? 13:26
notting other than as above, no 13:27
f13 notting: what outstanding tag requests exist? 13:27
notting here, let me trac that for you. :P 13:27
notting 1419 - gdal/grass 13:27
f13 that one isn't even built yet 13:28
notting 1403 - libcgroup (uncommenting default config makes system not boot) 13:28
f13 so hard to tag it. 13:28
notting 1420 - K-3D (fixes broken deps) 13:28
f13 is libcgroup even installed by default or available to install by default? 13:28
notting and 1421 - gnome-screensaver randomly dims and blanks the screen 13:29
f13 I'm for K-3D and gnome-screensaver 13:29
f13 see my question about libcgroup 13:29
notting yeah, well yum is slow. gimme a sec. 13:30
notting nope, not pulled in by anything. so it can wait 13:30
f13 k 13:30
notting will we tag gdal/grass if it's built? 13:31
f13 probably, we've been tagging things for broken deps 13:31
f13 as a courtesy to rawhide users 13:31
notting ok, gnome-screensaver-2.26.0-1.fc11 k3d-0.7.11.0-1.fc11 both tagged, if you want to sign them 13:31
f13 signs signs, everywhere there are signs 13:32
notting how blocker-y is the blocker list. are there any there we won't slip for? 13:34
f13 btrfs is iffy 13:34
f13 but that's already fixed I think. 13:34
f13 ppc ide disks is also iffy, that should just be ppc minis or other older macs 13:34
f13 the rest seem pretty blockery to me 13:35
* notting tosses another LVM error on the list :/ 13:36
f13 oof. 13:36
f13 our world was so much better before lvm 13:37
f13 anything else? The floor is open 13:39
* wwoods mumbles, starts updating http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WillWoods/Features/NoDefaultLVM 13:39
f13 Looks like no, time to call the meeting and get back on our heads. 13:42
-!- f13 changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel for meeting schedule 13:42
f13 thanks all 13:42

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