SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-03-04

Meeting Time

topics to discuss:
PolicyKit integration (#428212 )
KDE 4.0.2
Packaging API docs
Getting KDE 4 to use kde-settings defaults
Latest live CD testing feedback
Using ON_DEV when claiming bugs because ASSIGNED is now used for a different purpose by the triage team
split out of khelpcenter from kdebase3 (#435133 and #435873 )
recent bugs:
#435656 : closing bluemarble causes desktop session to end
#435956 : yum update removes kdewebdev

PolicyKit integration:

LukasTinkl started a discussion with WillStephenson on how to implement PolicyKit support
But for the time being no work has done.
We should consider a quick hack for getting PolicyKit working for the Beta
Full PolicyKit support seems to be implemented by upstream for KDE 4.1

KDE 4.0.2:

Packaging API docs:

Currently we're not building API docs at all.
We should package it as *-apidocs sub packages like in KDE 3.
They should be provided at least for kdelibs, maybe kdepimlibs and soprano.
For minor packages api.kde.org is the place to start (unless someone files a bug for including them).

Getting KDE 4 to use kde-settings defaults:

KDE4 doesn't use the kiosktool setup we use in kde-settings.
This is also affecting the "KDE Development Platform" provided for F7 and F8 (eg. dolphin).
Short term solution: move the global configs back to $KDEDIR/share/config/ .
Long term solution: fix KDE 4 to recognize the kiosk settings (with/in upstream).

Latest live CD testing feedback:

SebastianVahl prepared an actual live image for internal testing before the Beta.
KevinKofler reported some problems when running the image in qemu which don't seem to appear when running it natively:
KOrganizer's reminder applet isn't docked to plasma's systray
nm-applet isn't starting or connecting
This is maybe related to a not started dbus-session.
The "next" button in the installer seems to not work sometimes.
Because gparted was removed from livecd-fedora-base-desktop.ks amarok is back on the live images.

Using ON_DEV when claiming bugs because ASSIGNED is now used for a different purpose by the triage team:

According to recent changes of the bug triage team we should use ON_DEV instead of ASSIGNED now.
Proposed workflow: the person who takes responsibility for that bug assigns it to himself and set it to ON_DEV.

Split out of khelpcenter from kdebase3:

KDE3 applications will work fine with KDE4's khelpcenter but will need /usr/share/services/khelpcenter.desktop.
The decision was to include this as a seperate source in kdebase-runtime and avoid a hard require for khelpcenter.
So any KDE3 application will need also kdebase-runtime for displaying the help (which will mainly affect non-KDE users).
This will also free up some space on the live images because kdebase3 isn't needed for one single file.
We should consider adding this to the release notes.

Closing bluemarble causes desktop session to end:

The "3D Earth Desktop" applet kills the X-Server when using it without enabled OpenGL shaders support.
This is known upstream but nobody knows how to fix this.
Also the next release of extragear-plasma is not scheduled before KDE 4.1.
So bluemarble will be disabled for now.

yum update removes kdewebdev:

This is regarding to the multilib obsoletes hack introduced by the split into *-libs sub packages.
Because only kdewebdev requires kdewebdev-libs we will add a "Requires: kdewebdev" to kdewebdev-libs.

(These comments are written after the meeting)