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'' Choosing GNOME and not something else ''
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I personally like GNOME and more so with GNOME 3. I have created a poll for you to vote for KDE or GNOME. Please go ahead and vote [http://micropoll.com/t/KEvl3ZB405 here]
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== Packages currently Shipped ==
  
'''Update (Aug 18, 2011):''' My feelings for GNOME 3 is starting to change a bit :-) So, I have also created a KDE based Scientific spin, which I think I like more.
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I should point out here that my idea is to have a generic toolset made available. The number of tools currently available in different domains- Physics, Chemistry, Biology is just too many. Including them all in one big spin may not make a lot of users happy, simply because if I am a engineering researcher, the Biology tools are just useless to me. I haven't actively looked into applications which may not be available in the repository and is important to a spin such as this. Needless to say, I am going to take upon the responsibility of packaging such software, when I come across one, or its pointed to me. If you come across a package which you want shipped, please add them here.
  
'''Update (Sep 8, 2011):''' I shall have a XFCE based Kickstart file ready as well.  
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== Initial spin review ==
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# Please fill out all fields before you mark the spin 'Ready for Wrangler'.
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# Please state the targeted size of the spin.
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# So is this going to be a GNOME or KDE based spin? You can only have one spin and one kickstart.
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# What about duplicated functionality, e.g. evolution/kmail and thunderbird?
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# What is the target audience? For me this looks like a mixture of development and science.
  
''Packages currently Shipped''
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--[[User:Cwickert|Cwickert]] 08:34, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
  
I should point out here that my idea is to have a generic toolset made available. The number of tools currently available in different domains- Physics, Chemistry, Biology is just too many. Including them all in one big spin may not make a lot of users happy, simply because if I am a engineering researcher, the Biology tools are just useless to me.
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== Initial spin review Response ==
  
I haven't actively looked into applications which may not be available in the repository and is important to a spin such as this. Needless to say, I am going to take upon the responsibility of packaging such software, when I come across one, or its pointed to me.
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Please fill out all fields before you mark the spin 'Ready for Wrangler'.
  
If you come across a package which you want shipped, please add them here.
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'''AMIT:''' Done.
  
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Please state the targeted size of the spin.
  
''Miscellaneous''
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'''AMIT:''' Targetted DVD size. Right now, the ISO takes up 2.2 G.
  
Science wallpapers? (For example, see [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianScience/Wallpapers here])
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So is this going to be a GNOME or KDE based spin? You can only have one spin and one kickstart.
  
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'''AMIT:''' KDE. Modified the spins page
  
'''Suggestions for packages (already incorporated in the current KS file which was updated on August 7, 2011)'''
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What about duplicated functionality, e.g. evolution/kmail and thunderbird?
  
The current kickstart file includes most of these packages. (Those which have not been included are mentioned
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'''AMIT:''' I will remove thunderbird from the KS file or any applications which provide duplicate functionality.
with some comments below)
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Texlive 2009 or later ('''AMIT''' : IIRC, Texmaker pulls them in)
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What is the target audience? For me this looks like a mixture of development and science.
  
Kile ('''AMIT''': Included in the KDE based spin)
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'''AMIT:''' There is significant amount of coding/development which goes on in simulation based research. So, it really targets Science, who also
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has development "needs".
  
Lyx (some people like it) ('''AMIT''': Will be added)
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== Final fixes ==
  
dia ('''AMIT''': Already in)
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Thanks for your response. I have have tweaked the page a little and marked it'ready for SIG', however there are still some things that can be improved:
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# Better slogan
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# Add text for the spins page
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# Add text for the download tab
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# Rework text for the support tab. The text you enter here is meant to end up on spins.fedoraproject.org/scientific, so please don't use first person.
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# Include an update on the artwork status
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--[[User:Cwickert|Cwickert]] 09:56, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
  
GGobi ('''AMIT''': Will be added)
 
  
coqIDE etc ('''AMIT''':IMO a little "niched" for Math folks?)
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== Final fixes Response==
  
G3Data ('''AMIT''': Will be added)
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Thanks for your response. I have have tweaked the page a little and marked it'ready for SIG', however there are still some things that can be improved:
  
xfig ('''AMIT''': Already in)
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Better slogan
  
cantor ('''AMIT''': Included in the KDE based spin)
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'''AMIT:''' Working on it. Have asked for suggestions on the SciTech mailing list.
  
scilab ('''AMIT''': See [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/SciTech/Scilab])
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Add text for the spins page
  
rkward ('''AMIT''': Will be added)
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'''AMIT:''' DONE
  
yacas ('''AMIT''':  Not yet packaged?)
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Add text for the download tab
  
euler ('''AMIT''': Not yet packaged?)
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'''AMIT:''' DONE
  
ksnapshot ('''AMIT''':  Included in the KDE based spin)
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Rework text for the support tab. The text you enter here is meant to end up on spins.fedoraproject.org/scientific, so please don't use first person.
  
gimp ('''AMIT''': Will be added)
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'''AMIT:''' DONE
  
vpython (Proposed by '''AMIT''')
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Include an update on the artwork status
  
referencer - a Bibliography manager (Proposed by '''AMIT''')
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'''AMIT:''' once the slogan is finalized, will get back in touch with the artwork folks.
 
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mendeley-desktop - Manuscript library organisation. (Proposed by Cameron McPherson in a private discussion)
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wine  (Proposed by Cameron McPherson in a private discussion)
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shutter - Screenshot grabbing tool (Proposed by Cameron McPherson in a private discussion)
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pdf-shuffler - PDF manager (Proposed by Cameron McPherson in a private discussion)
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backintime - Backup utility (Proposed by Cameron McPherson in a private discussion)
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'''Packages to be added in the "next" Kickstart file'''
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[http://root.cern.ch/drupal root] (and associated tools - root, root-gui-fitpanel, root-physics, root-mathmore, root-minuit2, root-python) (Suggested by Lukas Middendorf)
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PathScale EKO Path compilers (whenever they are ready for Fedora)
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[http://sourceforge.net/projects/fig2ps/ fig2ps]
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Torque and associated utils
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[http://www.lri.fr/~filliatr/bibtex2html/ bibtex2html]
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[http://hevea.inria.fr/ hevea]
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(Notes to self: Check the dependency of the various packages, especially for dependencies on any specific DE libs)
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Latest revision as of 06:31, 9 October 2011

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Contents

[edit] Packages currently Shipped

I should point out here that my idea is to have a generic toolset made available. The number of tools currently available in different domains- Physics, Chemistry, Biology is just too many. Including them all in one big spin may not make a lot of users happy, simply because if I am a engineering researcher, the Biology tools are just useless to me. I haven't actively looked into applications which may not be available in the repository and is important to a spin such as this. Needless to say, I am going to take upon the responsibility of packaging such software, when I come across one, or its pointed to me. If you come across a package which you want shipped, please add them here.

[edit] Initial spin review

  1. Please fill out all fields before you mark the spin 'Ready for Wrangler'.
  2. Please state the targeted size of the spin.
  3. So is this going to be a GNOME or KDE based spin? You can only have one spin and one kickstart.
  4. What about duplicated functionality, e.g. evolution/kmail and thunderbird?
  5. What is the target audience? For me this looks like a mixture of development and science.

--Cwickert 08:34, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Initial spin review Response

Please fill out all fields before you mark the spin 'Ready for Wrangler'.

AMIT: Done.

Please state the targeted size of the spin.

AMIT: Targetted DVD size. Right now, the ISO takes up 2.2 G.

So is this going to be a GNOME or KDE based spin? You can only have one spin and one kickstart.

AMIT: KDE. Modified the spins page

What about duplicated functionality, e.g. evolution/kmail and thunderbird?

AMIT: I will remove thunderbird from the KS file or any applications which provide duplicate functionality.

What is the target audience? For me this looks like a mixture of development and science.

AMIT: There is significant amount of coding/development which goes on in simulation based research. So, it really targets Science, who also has development "needs".

[edit] Final fixes

Thanks for your response. I have have tweaked the page a little and marked it'ready for SIG', however there are still some things that can be improved:

  1. Better slogan
  2. Add text for the spins page
  3. Add text for the download tab
  4. Rework text for the support tab. The text you enter here is meant to end up on spins.fedoraproject.org/scientific, so please don't use first person.
  5. Include an update on the artwork status

--Cwickert 09:56, 8 October 2011 (UTC)


[edit] Final fixes Response

Thanks for your response. I have have tweaked the page a little and marked it'ready for SIG', however there are still some things that can be improved:

Better slogan

AMIT: Working on it. Have asked for suggestions on the SciTech mailing list.

Add text for the spins page

AMIT: DONE

Add text for the download tab

AMIT: DONE

Rework text for the support tab. The text you enter here is meant to end up on spins.fedoraproject.org/scientific, so please don't use first person.

AMIT: DONE

Include an update on the artwork status

AMIT: once the slogan is finalized, will get back in touch with the artwork folks.