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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK, it's 1900 GMT / 3PM EDT by my watch, so let's get started.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I see we have our two Redhatters aboard... welcome.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Can we get a quick roll call?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">KushalDas</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* gregdek is here</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">Max</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Paul</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> joadams</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">john</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">Michael Beckwith</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">Hi, this is Kerri from the RH pr team</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Hi Kerri.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4d4d93"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kschiltz</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4d4d93">Kara - from the RH pr team</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* stickster waves too</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#97974f"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> Sparks</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#97974f">EricChristensen</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Ki Kara.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">Aaron Yates</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">:O girls</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Easy there, killer.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">tw2113: That would be part of the "common courtesy" thing.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">:P</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">All right -- this looks like quorum to me.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">sorry</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">;-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So lemme direct everyone's attention to our Task List / Agenda:</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40"><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks</a></font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I've taken the liberty of rearranging it a bit and giving priorities to tasks.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So we've got a handful of Priority 1 tasks on deck, so I'd like to handle those.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">JonRob!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">hey, sorry once again for being late! i'm so dopey these days :S</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Dude, three minutes is forgivable.  ;)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">And once again, your timing is perfect.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">heh</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">heck at my company 3 min would be early</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">* Key Marketing Messages.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">This is Max's baby, and he sent an email to the list just now...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">spevack: Care to elaborate?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">sure</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">well, i started with what we decided in the Marketing Meeting at FUDCon</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">which was that from a media/storytelling perspective</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">we wanted to focus activities that happen in Fedora in one or more of 4 buckets</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">Freedom</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">Features</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">First</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">Folks</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">The idea would be that we can "tag" any activity or project or achievement with one of more of these</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">and then depending on who we are talking to, it is easy to cite examples from Fedora's history</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">If we talk to a press person who is very technical, we think about Features and First.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">that sounds a cool approach actually, especially thinking about news.fp.o :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">if it's someone who wants personal community stories, then we go with Folks.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">comments?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">etc.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">Oh, good point those could be the categories for each post.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> joadams</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">we'd probably want some boilerplate language or wording to frame the story around the F's, just for consistency ... I would think</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* gregdek will take the action item to get these points into the master Marketing Plan document itself.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">yep...i think it sounds good, although maybe we need to spend some time thinking about the categories?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Which is where that "consistent language" could live.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">not necessarily now, but at some point</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Beyond that, the SingleSourceSummary content could be dragged into a couple different container pages, one organized by audience (users, developers, admins...), another by Features/Freedom/First/Folks...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">+1 for At Some Point.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stickster: Doesn't it then become a MultipleSourceSummary?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">JonRob: those 4 were the "F words" that we came up with in a 30 min meeting at FUDCon with about 10 people.  It's just a thought experiment, and definitely open for tweaking.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: No, single source and then aggregated on the wiki in different places</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">but I do like the "F words"</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Hee hee!  F words.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">But yeah, I think that right now...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">In Fedora, F words are good.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">as long as we don't end up with a category called "Fail"</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">...we're definitely in "get a good first cut of everything" and then "use that first cut to define action p</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt>lan for F9" and then "reevaluate everything after F9 and see how it went".</tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">+1</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">spevack: sure no problem, and +1 on the no "fail"!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK, so we like Max's stuff "well enough" to go with it for now?  No major objections at this point?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">yes</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">yep</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">well enough for me</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">+1</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">+1</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Okey doke.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Moving on:</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">* Strategies and Tactics.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So.  To be clear:</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">btw, gregdek your SingleSourceSummary link is gbroken</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">rharrison: Oh... crap.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Can someone go twiddle that?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I've given up the edit lock...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Fixed</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Danke.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Anyway.  Strategies and Tactics.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">everyone speaks german</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">The goal here is to (a) make sure we've got lots of good stuff captured in the Plan...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">...and (b) we've got action items for executing on all those good ideas.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So for the first little while, I'd like to review what we've got in Strategies and Tactics on the plan document.  Fair?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">go for it :)</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">To remind everyone: <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/MarketingPlan">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/MarketingPlan</a></font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">yup</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I'm currently looking at the "Promotion" section -- seems like a good place to generate some action items.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">We already got Ambassadors broken out, and Francesco owns that, so we'll check in on him later.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Fedora Weekly News...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">...seems like we've already got that well covered for a long time now.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> joadams</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">promotion is where i really saw the pr team being able to add some real value</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Then let's go there.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> joadams</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">specifically on tactics</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">We've got:</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> joadams</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">i had forwarded kara and kerri the link to the plan</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">* Publications;</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> joadams</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">hoping it would generate some thought starters</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Well... seems like "Publications" might be the best place to spend some thought energy.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Actually...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">...maybe we should just ask.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">Just to clarify on roles so everyone is on the same page, I generally handling the writing (press releases, blogs) and Kara will handle outreach to pitch the Fedora stories</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">kschiltz, kcatallo: What should we be thinking about in terms of getting as much pub as possible?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> joadams</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">maybe some best practices with proven hit rates for rh</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> joadams</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">In terms of press releases and blogs, what is catchiest for the press is usually including some kind of impress #s (if available, of course!), a way to separate Fedora from others -- what it does better than everyone else, and putting real ppl behind it</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">That would likely be number of active contributors.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* quaid drops in</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">yeah, numbers like that would be really interesting</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Max tells me we've got almost 2000 people who have signed the CLA at this point.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Now, I don't know how we could use those numbers as a comparison...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">for an example, for F8, the headline of the press release was, "Community Welcomes Fedora 8 With Strong Download Numbers"</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">spevack: Do we have good numbers for F9 Beta yet?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">mmcgrath posted something yesterday</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: McGrath has hit numbers gathering</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">We don't have to use them as a comparison gregdek, people just seem to be fascinated by them in general</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* gregdek waits for linky.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144"><a href="http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/">http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/</a></font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: Torrent numbers at <a href="http://torrent.fedoraproject.org:6969/">http://torrent.fedoraproject.org:6969/</a></font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">I haven't really parsed this stuff yet.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Hundreds of downloads of F9 Beta via torrent!  Meh.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144"><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/maps/mirrorlist/rawhide.all.png">http://fedoraproject.org/maps/mirrorlist/rawhide.all.png</a></font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">that map has 12,000 entries</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">in a 1 week window</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">That's pretty cool.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">What does that 12k represent?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">People who have used yum on rawhide?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">another way to approach using impressive numbers is to show growth...you can always use % growth rather than the raw numbers</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">i think that's unique hits to the rawhide repo looking for updates in the last week.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I would love to use contributor growth here... but I don't know if we've timesliced it properly.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Is there any way we can get FAS data broken down by date of signing CLA?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">you're going to want to ask toshio all of these questions.  Let me try to drag him in here.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* gregdek waits for toshio to show up.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">With peaches.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* spevack pinged him in fedora-devel and asked him to join</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* jds2001 comes in late and sits in the back</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">hey toshio -- we're talking about how we can further parse the CLA data in the FAS.  We can see how many total accounts there are that have signed.  Can we time-slice that at all?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#57a657"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> quaid</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#57a657">*bamf*</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">Do we have the log data back far enough to show that map lighting up just after the beta announcement?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">for instance, if we wanted to see how many people reached cla_done during the F9 release cycle?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5959a9"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> abadger1999</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5959a9">That should be doable.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#57a657"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> quaid</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#57a657">all the way back to the beginning?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">I think that would grab some peoples imagination.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Please... please...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">PLEASE get that data.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5959a9"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> abadger1999</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5959a9">If it's all correct back to the beginning.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* gregdek notes there are other metrics like "mailing list activity" that he is working on...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5959a9"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> abadger1999</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5959a9">We do have the fields in the db all the way back.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">how lucky!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Or maybe just good planning.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK, so I smell an action item.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5959a9"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> abadger1999</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5959a9">Would you want raw data? (date approved in cla_done)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">* Gathering metrics for marketing purposes.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">And I'm assigning that to... Max Spevack!  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">gregdek: I accept your commission, and am happy to work with toshio a bit.  I've been unofficially gathering a variety of stuff, and i'm happy to formalize it</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">ah, max you're a lucky fellow!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">i annoy toshio with random requests like this all the time ;)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">spevack: See, I could *sense* that.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">All right.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">Max, definitely send those #s our way once you have them and we can find some good ways to publicize</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">There will be a brief pause as I update the task list.  Talk amongst yourselves.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">gregdek lies... he's just sitting here next to me and can hear everything i say and then pretend he read my mind</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">kcatallo: of course</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* spevack scurries off to a 3:30 phone call</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">is it worth-while us contacting various press people and letting them know where they can find out information about the fedoraproject, and introducing ourselves as possible contacts?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">spevack, if you need help generating maps etc. I'd be willing to lend a hand.  If for no other reason than to learn how its done. ;-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">nb: by "us" i don't necessarily mean all of us here as a big hoard!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">rharrison: You can probably get some of that info from spoleeba, who's worked on the stuff already available</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">If you want to get a leg up for whatever reason :-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK, done with that.  (And props to the folks who have sped the wiki up, heh.)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">well to generate maps all the way back to the beginning does sound like there would be some work involved</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">figured I'd help out with my learning...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So.  Max is Numbers King.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">kcatallo: What other sorts of stuff should we be looking to do?</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">I think it's important that we find some good themes (the "F" words, perhaps) to keep up with</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">When you keep news under some kind of umbrella theme, it helps bring everything together</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So can we assume that those "F" words are the key themes?</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#488888"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> joadams</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#488888">[apologies ... have to jump off to catch a flight] </font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#57a657"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> quaid</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#57a657">+1 to those F words</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">joadams has a plane to catch.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#adad5b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> TitaX</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#adad5b">lut</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">So, using those themes, we should come up what types of things we want to emphasize under each theme</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Are we looking for one or two key stories to tell?</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Reminding folks what they are: Freedom Features First Folks.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">Yes, one or two key stories that weave in those Fs would be ideal</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">hi, sorry but i just arrived a t home</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stickster: I know you and Max have been talking about some of this, right?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Hi fugolini.  Sorry I moved the meeting on you.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: Might be helpful to define "stories" generically for people here not familiar with press routines</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5fb4b4"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> jds2001</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5fb4b4">i think we have a great story to tell about features this release.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">i love the themes</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Like, not always anecdotal</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">the four fs</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stickster: Maybe you can help.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">So can we start with Firsts for F9 and maybe see if we could get some Folks ideas on the people that work</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt>ed on those firsts?</tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5fb4b4"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> jds2001</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5fb4b4">which ties into freedeom and folks of course</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">or features really</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Max and I were just talking about key Features earlier this week</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">On the enterprise side, for example, you've got FreeIPA</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">On the distinctly user side, you've got Live USB improvements w/persistence</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">And FreeIPA is one that needs some serious explaining, people don't seem to be getting it.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">I think we need to make a clear distinction on the two different kinds of 'firsts' we can have with the features</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">whoa, persistence, really?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">I missed that.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">one is that this is the first time anyone in the community has done it</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* quaid straps on his parachute</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">and the other is this is the first time Fedora has done it</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Does that mean quaid is bailing?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#57a657"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> quaid</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#57a657">I'm about to bail to go pick up a load of girls with bikes and scooters</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#57a657"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> quaid</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#57a657">gregdek: yeh, sorry, awkward time;</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#57a657"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> quaid</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#57a657">can I do anything with my continued presence?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">are we marketing Fedora to expand the user base or the community?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">quaid: Go get your brood.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">kcatallo, those are important distinctions</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#57a657"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> quaid</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#57a657">ok</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">yates: I would say both, but the key to both is awareness.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">its one that our Ubuntu friends aren't doing such a good job at.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">yates: q.v. "Target Audience" in the marketing plan</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#57a657"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> quaid</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#57a657">keep your eye out for Fedora grid naming discussion on f-marketing-l</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK, so...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* quaid opens the aft door, gives the thumbs up, and bails out</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">...how do we pull this together into actionable work for an individual to be responsible for?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">:)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* stickster thinks</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">Maybe we could have one or multiple ppl take on the four Fs and come up with the main things that distinguish Fedora under each of those themes and we can work from there?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">In the specific context of F9?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* gregdek hrms.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">maybe we do two: one specifically for F9 and one generally that we can use all the time?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Dividing up by the 4F's is dicey because there's quite a bit of crossover when you look at some of our targets</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stickster: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">do we have a list of the mediums we will be marketing through and how each targets specific demographics/markets to increase awareness? Which the key stories based on the F words would be distributed through?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">So I assume we'll want a "Best Practices" for writing up marketing stuff (Part of the Marketing Plan?) wo</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt>uldn't we just need a paragraph or in the "Firsts" highlighting that distinction?</tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">yates: I think that's next.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">what are the artifacts you get out of the 4F process</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">a web page?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">a flyer?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">a press release?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Yeah.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I wonder if maybe we shouldn't be thinking about those artifacts first.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I mean, the 4 Fs are pretty intuitive.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">sorry, I was getting a little a head of myself there</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">mizmo, I was thinking that we needed a MarketingMaterials page for each release.  Starting out with just the headings you mentioned so people would know what we had and what we were lacking.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">And I think we have done some explanation of those 4 Fs in the Plan, but we can tighten that up, and I know Max will work on that.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">But for F9, we're looking for *examples of the successes of the 4 Fs*, I think.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">How have the 4 Fs made F9 better?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: i.e. Folks + First (for Fedora) = easier CLA process</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stickster: Exactly.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">We need a ton of examples like that.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So I'm feeling a work item coalesce:</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">* Examples of the 4Fs success in F9 timeframe.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Who can own this?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">Freedom + Folks = openly developed and openly licensed FOSS-created artwork</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">This may be a whole separate Idea Generation session.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">yeh</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: I think so.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">i would say, have a session</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">and have someone accountable for keeping track of everything generated</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK.  Is anyone itching to own this one?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* JonRob must run</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">LOL!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">COWARD!  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* JonRob notes, not running away from ownership!! lol</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* stickster will take the itch.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">bad timing</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stickster: Don't let me talk you into anything, Fedora Project Leader.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#539e9e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> JonRob</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#539e9e">i'll catch up with things later, if there's anything anybody else won't take, put me on it :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Wiki ho!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">who u callin a wiki ho</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5fb4b4"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> jds2001</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5fb4b4">Fearless Project Leader :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">:-D</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">There will be another pause while gregdek, wiki ho, updates the wiki.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5fb4b4"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> jds2001</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5fb4b4">lol</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stickster: How long before we can have an update?  Is next week too soon?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Nope, not too soon.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Nicely nicely.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">What else?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Should we be talking about publications?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">i.e. who we're going to target?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Or promotional materials of various kinds?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">kcatallo: Any sage advice?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">I think what's very important to consider in terms of audience/pubs is the comms medium you use to reach them</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Yeah.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">there can be any combo of press releases, press blogs, personal blogs, story pitching, etc.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">+1</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Well, there are *always* personal blogs.  We do pretty well at that.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Actually, really well.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Although we need to improve the consistent use of "Fedora" to talk about ourselves.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I mean, there are some obvious places for us to chase.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">the interviews seem to be really popular</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">mizmo: Which ones?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">can we get something in the limelight? For instance that spoof Ruby v Java series that landed on YouTube</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">The interviews with individual contributors like JonRob does?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">gregdek, the ones jonrob did yeh</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">And we know that Jack's story with NASA was a big hit.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">yates: Depends on how creative the people who make it are.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">gregdek, i mean, even my little brother read them and he is very mainstream in his reading choices</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">mizmo: Really?  Wow.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So should we be doing more of those?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">he found them on digg</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Wow!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">i think so</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Well, that's really awesome for the Folks angle.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">i think the thing that is different about an interview is its an actual person</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">gregdek: true! viral campaigns are great for building awareness via the interwebs these days though</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">it's not some complicated technical thing, it's a real conversation, easy to read too</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">yates: are you or people you know up to that kind of challenge?  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">mizmo: that implies that either (a) jonrob needs to work triple time, or (b) we need to look hard for more jonrobs.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">gregdek, yep</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">gregdek: let me do some shout outs, I should have a definite response by the next meeting</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">what would be really sweet is videos on you tube</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Sigh.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: Easy...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">sorry :( its true tho</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">there are a lot of youtube videos with linux</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">especially if youre going for viral</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I've been resisting YouTube in favor of something more Fedora-friendly, but that's looking tougher and tougher.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">and i bet most just show off compiz effects</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">i mean, if a freaking suspicious looking groundhog can hit the big time</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">because of you tube</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">and ricky astley! come on</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">well</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I *will* rickroll you.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">"Never gonna give you up... never gonna bring you down..."</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">The video thing is painful.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">what could we create a video of that shows specific Fedora stuff?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">It's a painful set of choices.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5fb4b4"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> jds2001</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5fb4b4">heh.  I was recording something for youtube or whatever with my cheapo digital camera</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5fb4b4"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> jds2001</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5fb4b4">but Nikon fail.  It records in AVI :/</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">how about a slide at the end of the video: 'visit blahblahblah.com/blah to download an OGG of this video'</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">but all screencasting software are failed in F8</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">s/failed/failing</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">mizmo: Then we've got to store them all as OGGs.  Which puts a lot more burden on the producer of the video.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">i know RH does some interesting videos</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">if we're aiming for awareness of Fedora the OS and not Fedora community, YouTube is an ideal candidate, spoofs migrate themselves across the ether, the eyeballs and lasting attention from that is almost incalculable, it's just another tool in our kit box</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5fb4b4"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> jds2001</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5fb4b4">kushal: i use istanbul with fairly good luck</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">gregdek, is fedora tv ... painful at this point?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">gregdek, because it could be a pointer to there</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">mizmo: You have no idea.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">mizmo, I think that should probably go in the description</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">jds2001, istanbul quality is not so good</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">gregdek, lol i assumed as much</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I'll probably blog about it later today.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Because it's time to bring some closure.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I was trying to get something working with archive.org, but man, they're having problems right now.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Still, that might be the best choice.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I'll pose this question to Lazyweb later today.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">i wonder if it would be enough to say that the video was created using a FOSS workflow</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">especially once FedoraTV gets going</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">and uploaded as an ogg</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">It's a hard thing.  Basically, the "Freedom" F becomes the "Fail" F when it comes to video.  :/</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">But that's my pain.  Let's table this idea for now.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">okay</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">is it okay to post guerilla videos in the meantime? o_O</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* mizmo has a psp camera....</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">mizmo: Absolutely.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">okie doke</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">From a viral perspective, no question.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Gah.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Where were we?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">pubs/modes of communication?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Right.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Oh, interviews!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5fb4b4"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> jds2001</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5fb4b4">i can communicate *at* the pub :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I wanted to get back to that.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">jds: Do you live at the pub?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">It's a rhetorical question.  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Anyway.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">mizmo: My concern about interviews -- will too many of them be "too much"?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Or is there no such thing as "too many Fedora interviews"?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">gregdek, i dont know as how you could have too many :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">gregdek, especially if they show off new cool shiz (the First part)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">part of me would want to prioritize interview areas, but that would also be unfair</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#818144"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> spevack</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#818144">I think you need to have 2 or 3 that are being Featured at any given time, but an archive with all of them is a fine thing.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">yeh totally</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">like highlight the features that have made huge leaps</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">or areas that will hopefully further push our edge-ness</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">some other things, that are maybe less interview and more tutorial but it would be good to feature a particular fedora person doing the demo</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">is like, 'how to set up a bluetooth remote to work with totem on fedora 9' or something like that</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">things like that on digg seem to get a lot of diggs because they are practical</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">it gives you ideas for cool things you can do with your computer</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">those are things that a lot of people would be able to utilize</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">because there is a lot of cool shiz you can do if only you knew that fedora can do it</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">some of the setups people have here on their desktops are pretty cool</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">This is something that also ties into new features.  The more we can show people how to use them, (hopefu</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt>lly) the less resistance there is to them</tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Change is scary but tutorials can help soften the blow.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">i think someone has a setup where, when he walks away from his computer, it detects that his cell phone is no longer in close proximity to the computer and it pulls up the screensaver</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Hm.  So a combo interview/demo.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">yeh, then it makes the feature more valuable</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">Milanito, nice idea</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">oops</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">mizmo, nice idea</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">And btw, istanbul works great in F9 Beta afaict.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Yay!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">stickster, oh, that is great news</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#97974f"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> Sparks</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#97974f">mizmo: I think he was at DEFCON...  I saw the presentation somewhere else, though.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">stickster, I loved recordmydesktop more though</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">This kind of interview is a great feature/folks double play.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">All right.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">How can we generate as many of these potential interviews as possible?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Does this dovetail with the other brainstorming session, maybe?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: Yes.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">Sparks, oh okay, i think he sits in the office lol i dont remember who it is</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">We can split that session -- 1/2 story ideas, 1/2 interview/demo ideas</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">+1</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* stickster just set up <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/FedoraStories">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/FedoraStories</a></font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK.  Then I'll put this on your plate as well.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">A brief pause for me while I add this to the task list...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I'm back.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So we've got a bunch of stuff to work on.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Are there any *key* things we need to be thinking about and planning for *now* that (a) we haven't covered, and (b) aren't being covered somewhere else?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* mizmo cant think of anything</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">world domination</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I kinda wonder if we've got a list of talks with press peeps lined up.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">kcatallo: Is this what you guys will help us handle at release time?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Caroline emailed me that was in progress</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Sweet.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I'm sure kschiltz is in on it too</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">Yes, Kara will be working with Caroline on outreach and lining interviews up as the date approaches</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Okey doke.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Well, that seems well in hand then.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I think this has been pretty good.  Plenty to keep us all busy.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">Another thing that would be great is as we approach press release writing time, a list of all of the things you want focused on will be really helpful</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">in terms of what #s we come up with, etc.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I hope that falls out of the 4 Fs brainstorm.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">And the metrics work.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#4b904b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kcatallo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#4b904b">sounds good</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Is anyone itching to continue meeting?  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I'm still here</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">i have nowhere to go other than perhaps the post office</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b86161"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> mizmo</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b86161">im still here</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">fugolini: Are you there?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Because we could definitely talk about Ambassador ideas.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Oooh... L10N of all this stuff.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">yep</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Boy.  That's a big 'un.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* gregdek takes a deep breath.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So if we *really* want worldwide reach...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">at this point</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: L10N of video... hard.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">stickster, that is what I am doing</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: L10N of subtitles... hard but might be do-able with a GNOME hacker.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">Famsco didn't start a discussion over such issue</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">stickster, I record the videos first with recordmydesktop</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">stickster, then record audio with audacity</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">we have to close some other issues</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">stickster, then mix with pitivi</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">fugolini: Any ambassador plans for F9 at this point?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">tomorrow</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">theoretically easy :(</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">we will have a better organized idea</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#62bb62"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> iWolf</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#62bb62">there's the release parties we are trying to encourage.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">we have in mind to make some Fedora 9 Parties</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">but we haven't yet talk about the organization</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* jds2001 would be game for doing one in NYC</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">iWolf proposed some interesting things</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#42427e"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> kushal</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#42427e">final editing in kino</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">just give use the time to close some important items</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#62bb62"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> iWolf</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#62bb62">i sugmitted a request to the art list to try to get some flyers made up that folks can use in their local area to publicize.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">fugolini: We can talk more at next week's meeting, maybe?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#5fb4b4"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> jds2001</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#5fb4b4">im not really sure how such a thing would work though</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* Sparks bails as he has to beat afternoon traffic</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#b15db1"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> fugolini</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#b15db1">gregdek: +10000000000</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">:)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">fugolini: OK.  I'll put you on the agenda for an update next week.</font></tt></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* jds2001 WFH today, no traffic :).  None normally either since I live a 10 minute walk from my office :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* stickster preparing email to f-marketing-l</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">OK, so there's one "priority one" item left on the agenda: "Beta Release Overview".</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Is this being handled elsewhere?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">i.e. by the docs team?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Or is this something else?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#a25555"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> rharrison</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#a25555">Is that the single summary?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Maybe.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">It was listed as a separate item, so I'm bringing it up.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Yeah, looks like it's linking to SSS.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So who owns it?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">I sound like an owl.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Who?  Who?  Who owns "Beta Release Overview"?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">quaid was the last one to touch the SSS page... :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: I think this is Docs ownership.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">stickster: Who's the current fdisco lead?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">quaid:</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Then quaid is the winner!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Because of the way the page is written, it's still unclear to some people (including me to a small extent) what we need to do to make this page fulfill its intended function.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">There's some hints in the latest FDSCo meeting IRC log</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Well, then, I guess quaid will fill us in!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685"><a href="http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-March/msg00193.html">http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-March/msg00193.html</a></font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">That's what he gets for going to pick up his kids.  ;)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">I think a lot of it is just painful wiki editing.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Yeah,</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">This is what we get for not pruning as we go for so long.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Well, considering that this is clearly already being handled by the docs team, maybe we just kill this work item altogether.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">i.e. lots of work all at once to accomplish painful but important goal :-)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">gregdek: I think that makes sense.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#854685"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> stickster</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#854685">Or at least reference it and make it clearly a Docs task</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Does quaid have the horses to get this done?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">We could make a call for volunteers on f-mktg-l...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Anyway.  It's almost 4:30, and it feels like people have wandered off somewhat.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">So I think I'm about to call this meeting.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Any objections?</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">still about :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">All right, yates, anything to add?  :)</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#9b519b"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> yates</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#9b519b">haha, nope, sorry, was just dropping in</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Then meeting adjourned in 5...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">4...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">3...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">2...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">1...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">1/2...</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#8c4a4a"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> tw2113</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#8c4a4a">.</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan=2><tt><font color="#CC00CC">* gregdek BANGS the gavel!</font></tt></td></tr>
<tr><th bgcolor="#407a40"><font color="#ffffff"><tt> gregdek</tt></font></th><td width="100%" bgcolor="#eeeeee"><tt><font color="#407a40">Meeting adjourned.</font></tt></td></tr>
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