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| themayor | okay, let the meeting come to order | 12:00 |
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| quaid | btw | 12:00 |
| themayor | we'll wait a couple minutes to let people file in, but please lets start the ROLL CALL | 12:00 |
| quaid | we did get the other meeting slot in #fedora-meeting | 12:00 |
| * lcafiero plays the role of larry cafiero | 12:00 | |
| * gregdek will be in and out, call me by name if you need me | 12:00 | |
| quaid | I presumptively put us on the meeting channel page for this time, too, to hold the slot | 12:00 |
| themayor | quaid: awesome, yeah i knew you got it, but just wanted to make sure we dont lose anyone | 12:01 |
| quaid | ok, then _next_week_ we'll start telling people before the meeting to head to that channel instead of stay here? | 12:01 |
| themayor | yeah absolutely | 12:01 |
| themayor | in the announce i said this should be the last week in here | 12:01 |
| kushal | so Roll Call ? | 12:01 |
| mizmo | yo | 12:02 |
| themayor | yeah roll call | 12:02 |
| * quaid is still Karsten | 12:02 | |
| kushal | Kushal Das | 12:02 |
| ria | Ria Das | 12:02 |
| * lcafiero still larry cafiero | 12:02 | |
| * ke4qqq is here | 12:04 | |
| kushal | please continue | 12:04 |
| kushal | why we stopped ? | 12:05 |
| themayor | we are waiting for role call | 12:05 |
| fugolini | FrancescoUgolini | 12:05 |
| * fugolini will be afk for 5mins | 12:06 | |
| kushal | themayor, start the class :p | 12:06 |
| themayor | okay awesome | 12:06 |
| themayor | lets go | 12:06 |
| themayor | Marketing/Tasks | 12:06 |
| themayor | pull that up | 12:06 |
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| themayor | we are continuing discussion of our long term goals | 12:07 |
| themayor | basically as a summary | 12:08 |
| themayor | last meeting | 12:08 |
| * fugolini brb | 12:08 | |
| themayor | we all agreed that we need to marketing featuring better | 12:09 |
| themayor | and we need more management of press leading up to and at release time | 12:09 |
| themayor | so based on that, quaid updated the task list | 12:10 |
| themayor | is stickster around? | 12:10 |
| themayor | maybe he can update us on press efforts for the forthcoming release | 12:10 |
| ke4qqq | stickster: is in hospital visiting his mother iirc | 12:11 |
| themayor | ah yeah | 12:11 |
| themayor | sorry | 12:11 |
| themayor | i forgot i read that befoe | 12:12 |
| quaid | Caroline is back as our @redhat.com PR liaison | 12:12 |
| quaid | paul has written to some lists about the major features they are focusing on in press work | 12:12 |
| themayor | yup and yup | 12:12 |
| themayor | caroline is back from leave | 12:12 |
| quaid | btw, I recommended we add "XFS available during installation" to that list (although it's been in since F9?); purely as a marketing move and response to the years of complaints :) | 12:13 |
| themayor | we've had that for much longer than f9 actually | 12:13 |
| quaid | ah, guess I did miss that :) | 12:13 |
| * quaid pipes down | 12:13 | |
| ke4qqq | really?? I don't recall it in f8 | 12:14 |
| ke4qqq | but perhaps I missed it | 12:14 |
| themayor | anyway | 12:14 |
| themayor | yes, we should put that in there | 12:14 |
| fugolini | ? | 12:14 |
| themayor | okay anyway, if paul isnt here, lets table the press stuff for next week | 12:16 |
| themayor | next week we need to have a serious discussion of that | 12:16 |
| fugolini | May I ask you a thing | 12:16 |
| fugolini | ? | 12:16 |
| themayor | yes | 12:16 |
| themayor | go ahead | 12:16 |
| fugolini | You talked about press release, but you are referring to en_US press release | 12:16 |
| fugolini | ? | 12:16 |
| fugolini | *are you | 12:16 |
| quaid | sort-of | 12:16 |
| fugolini | ah, ok | 12:17 |
| quaid | we already have a process for release announcements to be fully localized | 12:17 |
| themayor | for the most part, yes | 12:17 |
| themayor | but we have a process for translation of release announcements and whatever | 12:17 |
| quaid | do we want to consider the formal press release be l10nized? | 12:17 |
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| themayor | if we think we can handle it without significant trouble, why not | 12:18 |
| themayor | ? | 12:18 |
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| fugolini | I was just wondering about the possibility to have a way to push press release around the world, maybe using rh officies | 12:18 |
| fugolini | *offices | 12:18 |
| quaid | I'll talk with Paul about it | 12:18 |
| quaid | the concern, historically, has been | 12:18 |
| quaid | not wanting to show the formal press release in advance, if it gets out it ruins the expectation/relationship with traditional journalists. | 12:19 |
| fugolini | right | 12:19 |
| quaid | anyway, I'll ask Paul if we want to try this time | 12:19 |
| themayor | okay so lets add that as a note to the current task on the list | 12:21 |
| themayor | and lets move on | 12:21 |
| themayor | quaid: update on release announcements | 12:22 |
| quaid | themayor: are you editing the task list as you go? | 12:22 |
| themayor | anything you want to tell us? | 12:22 |
| themayor | quaid: not currently, no, | 12:22 |
| themayor | is there a lock on the page? | 12:22 |
| quaid | The Beta announcement went out fine | 12:22 |
| quaid | it's time to refine the talking points so we can have locale-specific ones based on the talking points. | 12:23 |
| * quaid runs some edits on that task list then | 12:23 | |
| quaid | Releases/Announcements/TalkingPoints | 12:25 |
| quaid | so let's get on it! | 12:25 |
| quaid | <eoreport> | 12:25 |
| themayor | i agree, localized talking points would be awesome | 12:25 |
| fugolini | +1 | 12:25 |
| quaid | we keep waiting until too late in the cycle | 12:26 |
| * fugolini hopes he could join the discussion (is a open one?) | 12:26 | |
| quaid | partially because it was just me pushing it :) | 12:26 |
| quaid | fugolini: of course! | 12:26 |
| fugolini | thnaks | 12:26 |
| quaid | let's in fact start a thread on the list | 12:26 |
| quaid | (marketing-list) | 12:26 |
| themayor | okay | 12:29 |
| themayor | is that moved to the list then? | 12:29 |
| themayor | lets keep things moving if so | 12:29 |
| themayor | ke4qqq: whats up? | 12:31 |
| themayor | did you ever finalize that presentation? | 12:31 |
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| ke4qqq | yeah mizmo is making it purty last I heard | 12:31 |
| mizmo | ke4qqq, i havent had a chance to yet, its on my todo list | 12:31 |
| themayor | awesome | 12:32 |
| themayor | we will check again next week i guess | 12:32 |
| themayor | speaking of next week | 12:32 |
| themayor | i wont be around next thursday | 12:32 |
| themayor | so someone else will need to lead the meeting | 12:32 |
| themayor | i guess i will follow up on the list to see who that will ne | 12:32 |
| themayor | its yom kippur next thursday | 12:32 |
| themayor | anyway | 12:33 |
| tw2113 | ooh meeting | 12:33 |
| tw2113 | MichaelBeckwith | 12:34 |
| themayor | mizmo: max said we have money for the printing | 12:34 |
| themayor | did anyone follow up on any of that? | 12:34 |
| themayor | he should be in the US tomorrow | 12:34 |
| mizmo | themayor, yeh i got max's okay and know how many to order, there is some work i have to do to the source files for the printer to work with them | 12:34 |
| mizmo | its on my plate | 12:34 |
| themayor | okay great | 12:35 |
| themayor | awesome | 12:35 |
| themayor | mizmo: any update on the four foundations stuff? | 12:35 |
| mizmo | themayor, nope, ive been bogged down with f10 art work | 12:36 |
| themayor | fair enough | 12:36 |
| themayor | i guess thats a priority | 12:36 |
| themayor | hows that coming? | 12:36 |
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| themayor | mizmo: ? | 12:39 |
| themayor | i guess she is busy | 12:39 |
| themayor | stepped afk | 12:39 |
| mizmo | themayor, same as last week | 12:39 |
| mizmo | the icons that is | 12:39 |
| mizmo | the f10 artwork, pretty good :) | 12:39 |
| themayor | awesome | 12:40 |
| themayor | keep up all the great work | 12:40 |
| themayor | props to you and the art team | 12:40 |
| mizmo | :) | 12:40 |
| quaid | MAD props | 12:40 |
| spoleeba | quaid, i was going to buy them some mad libs...but props are better | 12:41 |
| themayor | hahaha | 12:43 |
| themayor | kushal: any updates on the FedoraTV stuff? | 12:43 |
| kushal | yes | 12:43 |
| kushal | First of all , I need feed back on "Linux Ahead" news | 12:43 |
| kushal | don't know who saw it ? | 12:44 |
| kushal | me and mether are going to do this weekly | 12:44 |
| spoleeba | kushal, let me watch it today and i'll give you feedback...where would you like.. private email? | 12:45 |
| kushal | anyone ? | 12:45 |
| kushal | spoleeba, ok | 12:45 |
| spoleeba | kushal, the fact that you are attempting to do it...is already super great | 12:46 |
| fugolini | yeah | 12:46 |
| themayor | its awesome | 12:46 |
| themayor | i did watch it | 12:46 |
| kushal | ke4qqq, I also started having audio files | 12:46 |
| themayor | theres lots of goofs, but its a start of something ive wanted done for a looooong time | 12:46 |
| spoleeba | kushal, what sort of stuff are you looking for? like feedback on your hairstyle and clothing...or something more structural feedback? | 12:46 |
| kushal | spoleeba, lol | 12:46 |
| kushal | spoleeba, structural | 12:47 |
| kushal | actually I sat in wrong chair | 12:47 |
| kushal | and I was missing the board where I wrote all the news | 12:47 |
| kushal | :( | 12:47 |
| spoleeba | kushal, i have to watch it....but i always thing of this sort of thing in terms of...segments..can we easily take bites out of it and reuse them | 12:47 |
| kushal | so I was looking right many times, to see what is next | 12:47 |
| kushal | spoleeba, ok | 12:47 |
| spoleeba | kushal, production quality...is a matter of practise | 12:48 |
| kushal | one more thing | 12:48 |
| kushal | Should I put "meet the contributors" videos on fedora tv ? | 12:48 |
| spoleeba | kushal, ive seen some really craptastic pilot sitcome episodes..that got better in the 2nd episode | 12:48 |
| spoleeba | kushal, i dont see why not | 12:48 |
| kushal | spoleeba, :) | 12:48 |
| spoleeba | kushal, hell... the original pilot for Happy Days had a brother for Richie Cunningham...totally gone in the second episode | 12:49 |
| themayor | hahaha | 12:49 |
| themayor | anyway | 12:49 |
| themayor | kushal: yes about the meet the contrubitor videos | 12:50 |
| kushal | ok, cool | 12:50 |
| kushal | btw, I started getting good hits than previous month from miro | 12:50 |
| quaid | spoleeba: I thought the brother was always "off at College"; I remember him playing bball and stuff; but he was gone within a season or two | 12:50 |
| spoleeba | quaid, shrug | 12:51 |
| themayor | lol | 12:51 |
| spoleeba | quaid, im sure by next season kushal will have this ironed out | 12:51 |
| kushal | any other feedback on the screencasts ? | 12:51 |
| kushal | spoleeba, hehe | 12:51 |
| * lcafiero has to go to day job and begs the chair's pardon | 12:51 | |
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| themayor | alright with the remaining 9 minutes anyone want to add anything else or bring anything else to the table? | 12:51 |
| spoleeba | themayor, election-eering? | 12:52 |
| kushal | <eof> | 12:52 |
| quaid | spoleeba: what do you have in mind about it? seems lively on list :) | 12:52 |
| themayor | yeah its a hot topic | 12:53 |
| spoleeba | quaid, again..big concern is timetable..we do have to astroturf a little bit to get people...engaged | 12:53 |
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| fugolini | spoleeba: I think IRC debate could still work | 12:54 |
| fugolini | maybe Candidates videos | 12:54 |
| fugolini | would require more time, | 12:54 |
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| themayor | do we have time for candidate videos? | 12:55 |
| themayor | fugolini: yeah | 12:55 |
| spoleeba | quaid, my biggest concern is...when is the damn election actually going to be..so we know when to start juicing the constituency with made up political scandals | 12:55 |
| ke4qqq | -1 for candidate videos - it would take a ton of time to watch anything substantive from every candidate in every election people are eligible to vote in - but I could read the log of a debate rather quickly | 12:55 |
| spoleeba | themayor, individual candidates can do it right now...you just need a working camera and cheese | 12:55 |
| spoleeba | themayor, we cant mandate everyone do them | 12:56 |
| fugolini | From ambassadors perspective it has to be between December 1st and December 20th (the election days) | 12:56 |
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| themayor | spoleeba: well we need to plant that seed in their head | 12:56 |
| spoleeba | themayor, right..timetable | 12:56 |
| spoleeba | themayor, everything basically needs to happen about a month before | 12:56 |
| spoleeba | themayor, so we have a couple of weeks of candicate action..and a little q/a..then 2 weeks out we can repackage that interaction to feed into a debate | 12:57 |
| spoleeba | themayor, err i should say..set the stage and build interest for a debate | 12:57 |
| spoleeba | themayor, 1 week out from the vote or so | 12:57 |
| themayor | yeah | 12:59 |
| themayor | but like was stated, i dont think we can make it man datory | 12:59 |
| themayor | mandatory even | 12:59 |
| fugolini | logically | 12:59 |
| themayor | surely a video will be a big boost to any candidate that chooses to do so | 12:59 |
| spoleeba | themayor, oh i think a video would have hurt me :-> | 13:00 |
| fugolini | themayor: but there are people who don't own a camera | 13:00 |
| fugolini | or have bad skills in post processing | 13:00 |
| themayor | well some things are beyond our control | 13:00 |
| fugolini | eof | 13:00 |
| themayor | anyway | 13:00 |
| themayor | we are just about over an hour | 13:00 |
| themayor | anyone want to add anything else | 13:00 |
| themayor | otherwise, ill say lets move everything over to the list till next week | 13:01 |
| fugolini | themayor: who will take the duty to follow IRC candidate talk ? | 13:01 |
| fugolini | spoleeba: ? | 13:01 |
| spoleeba | fugolini, follow? | 13:01 |
| themayor | and we really need to sit down and have a proper long term strategy sessions maybe next week, when more people with more ideas are around | 13:01 |
| spoleeba | themayor, who said i was around next week? | 13:02 |
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| spoleeba | themayor, im flying to NC weds | 13:02 |
| fugolini | spoleeba: I was just asking who will take care of this task | 13:02 |
| fugolini | IRC debates | 13:02 |
| fugolini | or each project organize it on its own? | 13:02 |
| spoleeba | fugolini, i believe spevack was already volunteered on the list | 13:02 |
| themayor | spoleeba: well, lets follow up with a good hearty discussion on the list and i guess i will PM sometime between now and next week | 13:02 |
| fugolini | ah ok | 13:03 |
| spoleeba | fugolini, to moderate | 13:03 |
| fugolini | that's great | 13:03 |
| themayor | alright, i need to move on to other work, so im gonna call it a meeting unless anyone objects? | 13:04 |
| themayor | or i can go and you guys can feel free to chatter bug about | 13:04 |
| themayor | got a phone conf in 11 mins | 13:05 |
| themayor | alright, thats a wrap then | 13:05 |
| themayor | see you guys on the list | 13:05 |
| fugolini | thank you themayor | 13:06 |
| themayor | thank you guys for all the awesome work | 13:06 |