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| themayor | hey guys | 22:00 |
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| moixs | hello :) | 22:00 |
| themayor | fedora marketing meetings | 22:00 |
| linuxguru | yay | 22:00 |
| herlo | oh hai! | 22:00 |
| herlo | .fas herlo | 22:00 |
| zodbot | herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1@gmail.com> | 22:00 |
| themayor | anyone else? | 22:01 |
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| themayor | lets give it another minute | 22:03 |
| herlo | k | 22:04 |
| themayor | alright lets go | 22:05 |
| herlo | k | 22:05 |
| themayor | let me get into the fedora tour thing first | 22:05 |
| themayor | herlo, did you get a chance to finish up the screenshot tour:? | 22:06 |
| * herlo was unable to get the fingerprint reader thing to work on his machine, not sure what's going on there. Haven't had time to troubleshoot much | 22:06 | |
| herlo | in addition, I wanted to get the screencast for the new boot up on the tour too... | 22:06 |
| themayor | okay what options do you have for the fingerprint stuff? | 22:07 |
| herlo | apparently none now | 22:07 |
| themayor | can you ask someone on another list to contribute? | 22:07 |
| herlo | probably | 22:07 |
| herlo | not sure where, but if that's the only thing missing, I'm not too sad | 22:07 |
| moixs | Is it really that important to put so much effort into one screenshot? :p | 22:07 |
| herlo | exactly my thoughts | 22:08 |
| * stickster is here late, sorry | 22:08 | |
| themayor | yes, because it is a feature we are promoting | 22:08 |
| stickster | herlo: Hey, I think I have you covered | 22:08 |
| stickster | themayor: ^^ | 22:08 |
| herlo | stickster: ooh, cool | 22:08 |
| themayor | awesome | 22:08 |
| herlo | stickster: we need an about me and a pop-up message | 22:08 |
| stickster | Hang on... brb, uploading from a different user login | 22:08 |
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| herlo | those are the ones I wanted to get | 22:08 |
| themayor | stickster: thats for the fingerprint thing or the boot up? or both? | 22:08 |
| herlo | stickster: I have the boot screencast done | 22:09 |
| herlo | http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/f11-plymouth-restart.ogg | 22:09 |
| stickster | fprint | 22:10 |
| herlo | sweet! | 22:10 |
| themayor | okay great | 22:10 |
| themayor | okay so we are good to go with that portion of things, right? | 22:11 |
| moixs | herlo: can't you just edit out the whole part which shows display corruptions? | 22:11 |
| herlo | moixs: yeah, probably, but I don't know that it even matters that much | 22:12 |
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| stickster | herlo: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/temp/fprint/ | 22:12 |
| stickster | Anything else you need besides those? | 22:12 |
| herlo | moixs: any suggestions for doing that? I could use mencoder to rip it out I suppose and splice it back together gstreamer | 22:12 |
| * herlo looks at what stickster linked | 22:12 | |
| herlo | stickster: yeah, we need a pop-up that prompts for password / fingerprint | 22:13 |
| themayor | aside from that we have the actual Fedora 11 Tour Page | 22:13 |
| themayor | take a look here | 22:13 |
| themayor | Fedora_11_tour | 22:13 |
| stickster | herlo: Ah, OK | 22:13 |
| moixs | herlo: no idea, but any video editing applications could be used to cut a piece out. I just don't know any :p | 22:13 |
| themayor | i sent out an email about this to the list last week and no one responded | 22:14 |
| herlo | moixs: I'll look around. I'm trying to get the Media printed this week so we'll see what kind of time I have | 22:14 |
| moixs | herlo: I'll have a look at it | 22:14 |
| stickster | herlo: You mean the gnome-screensaver unlock dialog? | 22:14 |
| themayor | we should have that page up and running for release day, so its best to start work on it now | 22:14 |
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| themayor | i need help with it | 22:14 |
| herlo | stickster: that'd work, or running an app that needs root privileges | 22:14 |
| stickster | herlo: wouldn't that require the user registering fingerprints for root? | 22:15 |
| * stickster checks to see if PolicyKit works on fprint | 22:15 | |
| herlo | stickster: dunno, maybe it's not recommended, fprint for screensaver is fine | 22:15 |
| herlo | I use fprint for root | 22:15 |
| herlo | er thinkfinger | 22:15 |
| stickster | Just speaking for myself, I wouldn't | 22:15 |
| stickster | but meh | 22:16 |
| herlo | well, then it's probably a good idea not to use my suggestion | 22:16 |
| herlo | anyway, I'll take your images and make a new section for it on the tour | 22:16 |
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| themayor | can someone help me out with the fedora 11 tour page? | 22:17 |
| herlo | Fedora_11_tour | 22:17 |
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| herlo | themayor: a link? or did you need stuff on there | 22:17 |
| themayor | well it needs to be filled in | 22:18 |
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| herlo | I can do the boot screencast in there | 22:18 |
| themayor | does anyone think they have time to take ownership of that whole thing and bang it out? | 22:19 |
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| themayor | okay i guess not | 22:20 |
| * themayor adds yet another thing to my list | 22:20 | |
| themayor | moving on | 22:20 |
| themayor | ive pretty much been working on all the content and lead up news thats been going out and will continue to go out | 22:21 |
| * spevack shows up late, thinking the meeting wasn't until the next :00. apologies | 22:21 | |
| themayor | stickster: any idea if we are slipping? | 22:21 |
| * themayor waves to spevack | 22:21 | |
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| spevack | themayor: howdy, sorry i'm late | 22:21 |
| themayor | np | 22:21 |
| themayor | you havent missed much | 22:22 |
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| stickster | themayor: We will be slipping by a week, I just came from a confab with rel-eng and other folks | 22:22 |
| themayor | okay nice | 22:22 |
| stickster | Well, let me be more precise -- Jesse is checking with FESCo to make sure that rel-eng is the one who announces that. | 22:22 |
| themayor | so therefore, i dont need to put out two interviews on thursday | 22:22 |
| stickster | If not, FESCo will need to consider it. | 22:22 |
| themayor | ah so its not 100% yet | 22:23 |
| stickster | rel-eng and QA and everyone else in the meeting was agreed. | 22:23 |
| stickster | So I don't foresee a big conflict about it, just that it needs to be ratified properly. | 22:23 |
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| themayor | ah okay | 22:23 |
| themayor | alright so the schedule is like this | 22:23 |
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| themayor | for thursday, im am going to print the virt interview with danpb | 22:23 |
| themayor | i have asked josh boyer to see if he wants to conduct a podcast on mingw | 22:24 |
| themayor | if so, that could go out next week | 22:24 |
| themayor | oh also, i have the podcast with j5 on fedora community | 22:24 |
| herlo | themayor: Fedora Classroom has some good irc sessions on MingW from April iirc | 22:25 |
| stickster | Josh Boyer and MinGW? | 22:25 |
| herlo | that could be a useful link if you want to add it | 22:25 |
| themayor | huh? | 22:25 |
| herlo | themayor: Using_the_Windows_cross-compiler_Classroom_(20090308) | 22:25 |
| themayor | er, presto | 22:25 |
| themayor | sorry | 22:26 |
| themayor | my head is in the air | 22:26 |
| herlo | ahh, nm | 22:26 |
| themayor | i was thinking to figure out if i could get someone to do something on mingw | 22:26 |
| herlo | themayor: I'm sure Richard would be willing | 22:26 |
| themayor | yeah we already did one podcast with him though | 22:27 |
| herlo | ahh | 22:27 |
| stickster | Richard Jones? | 22:27 |
| themayor | its richard jones? | 22:27 |
| herlo | stickster: yeah I believe so | 22:27 |
| herlo | rwmjones | 22:28 |
| herlo | Using the Windows cross-compiler - Richard Jones | 22:28 |
| herlo | this is all from Fedora Classroom wiki page | 22:28 |
| herlo | Classroom#Classroom_Archive | 22:28 |
| spevack | Richard's going to give a talk on MinGW stuff at FUDCon Berlin, too. | 22:28 |
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| herlo | w00t! | 22:28 |
| themayor | ah sorry wrong richard | 22:28 |
| themayor | i thought it was richard hughes for some reason, wow im really messed up today | 22:29 |
| themayor | lack of sleep | 22:29 |
| themayor | okay so yeah anyway, jboyer to interview seth for presto | 22:29 |
| themayor | and i will try and get something with richard jones then | 22:29 |
| themayor | and on top of that the volume control interview | 22:29 |
| stickster | Yeah, we still don't have anyone else picking that one up, do we? | 22:29 |
| themayor | which one? | 22:30 |
| themayor | volume control? | 22:30 |
| stickster | yes, the volume control feature | 22:30 |
| stickster | I think it was still unclaimed on the in-depth feature lsit. | 22:30 |
| stickster | *list | 22:30 |
| themayor | what do you mean, i did it | 22:30 |
| themayor | with lennart | 22:30 |
| themayor | we didnt do anything on ext4 | 22:31 |
| stickster | Oh, I had forgotten that you did the one with Lennart! | 22:31 |
| stickster | Excellent. | 22:31 |
| themayor | lennart told me if i want audio to ask bastien, but the print stuff is done | 22:31 |
| themayor | because apparently lennart has a heavy accent | 22:31 |
| stickster | He writes really well, though. :-) | 22:31 |
| stickster | Better than a lot of English speakers I know :-) | 22:32 |
| themayor | thats why i suggested if anyone in germany or another country would be interested in conducting a podcast in their native tongue | 22:32 |
| themayor | ill poke the list about it | 22:32 |
| halfline | lennart has a very understandable accent | 22:32 |
| themayor | idk either way | 22:33 |
| halfline | i think he just used that as an excuse :-) | 22:33 |
| themayor | hahaha | 22:33 |
| themayor | yeah danpb didnt wanna do audio at all and was like straight up, no | 22:33 |
| themayor | lol | 22:33 |
| spevack | perhaps lennart is self conscious, but IMHO he does not have a heavy accent. I had a wonderful conversation w/ him at LinuxTag last year | 22:34 |
| spevack | but, whatever :) | 22:34 |
| themayor | anyway | 22:35 |
| themayor | regardless, lets focus on what we can get done | 22:35 |
| themayor | i just sent a mail to the list about a foreign language podcast | 22:35 |
| themayor | lets see what happens | 22:35 |
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| themayor | both those 4 or 5 pieces should get us through next week to release | 22:35 |
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| themayor | oh and something about the new virt features in fedora is going on the press blog too, hopefully on thursday | 22:36 |
| spevack | did we talk about Fedora_11_tour yet? | 22:36 |
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| herlo | spevack: yep | 22:36 |
| herlo | spevack: but if you have something to add, I'd love to hear it | 22:36 |
| spevack | herlo: nope -- i'll just scrollback and read | 22:36 |
| themayor | other than that, we should decide now, what content we want out and to be pointing to on release day | 22:37 |
| themayor | ill defer to stickster to see what you think on that one, and then ill take it from there | 22:38 |
| stickster | OK, so to answer the question of what to point *to*, I need to know where we're pointing *from* | 22:39 |
| stickster | In general, community news outlets we'll want to send a link to the release announcement that is posted on the fedora-announce-list | 22:39 |
| stickster | That announcement has all the links to download sites and other important bits. | 22:39 |
| themayor | exactly | 22:40 |
| stickster | If people are blogging about the release individually, they should probably point to http://get.fedoraproject.org for downloads | 22:40 |
| stickster | and http://join.fedoraproject.org for calls to action | 22:41 |
| stickster | ***Important note: | 22:41 |
| themayor | okay so lets see whats going on with the release announcement | 22:41 |
| themayor | yeah go ahrad | 22:41 |
| stickster | Infrastructure/SOP/Release#Static_.2F_cached_urls | 22:42 |
| stickster | That link contains a list of static/cached URLs run by the Infrastructure team | 22:42 |
| stickster | If you're sending something to a place that might get us slashdotted, make sure you are using only URLs on that list | 22:42 |
| themayor | okay so we should add the tour there | 22:42 |
| stickster | themayor: hang on, I was getting to that | 22:42 |
| stickster | If you need to add a wiki page, | 22:42 |
| themayor | okay sorry to interrupt | 22:43 |
| stickster | The wiki is cached on release day | 22:43 |
| stickster | make sure you use the *http://* URL | 22:43 |
| stickster | *NOT* the *https://* URL | 22:43 |
| stickster | Otherwise you force the servers to go through a bunch of auth stuff | 22:43 |
| stickster | the plain HTTP version is cached and should be fast enough to handle heavy load. | 22:43 |
| spevack | stickster: very good, important tip | 22:44 |
| herlo | Fedora_11_tour now has the new charge plymouth bootup screencast... | 22:44 |
| stickster | OK, sorry that was a little on the propellerhead side. | 22:44 |
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| stickster | But anyway. | 22:45 |
| stickster | themayor: Were there other areas where people will be putting up info that I didn't cover? | 22:45 |
| stickster | themayor: Oh, I remember the other thing I wanted to add | 22:45 |
| stickster | themayor: Does the NDN already have a coverage plan for Digg, Reddit, etc.? | 22:45 |
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| themayor | moixs: ? | 22:46 |
| themayor | all i know is that ive been submitting to digg | 22:46 |
| themayor | and what do you mean by coverage plan | 22:46 |
| themayor | meaning who will submit to them? | 22:46 |
| stickster | Exactly. | 22:46 |
| moixs | As usual, it's the responsibility of the people in their respective languages | 22:46 |
| moixs | that is, themayor :D | 22:46 |
| themayor | yeah i got english | 22:47 |
| stickster | Okey dokey | 22:47 |
| themayor | so if there are other sites in english you want submitted other than slashdot, digg, reddit, newsvine, etc and whatevers on the list | 22:47 |
| themayor | those are mine | 22:47 |
| stickster | themayor: OK, do you have a URL to that list handy? | 22:48 |
| themayor | anything else, you can add to the list or email | 22:48 |
| themayor | its linked off the ndn page | 22:48 |
| themayor | one sec | 22:48 |
| stickster | Oh never mind, AwesomeBar to the rescue | 22:48 |
| themayor | awesomebar? | 22:49 |
| themayor | the ff3 address bar | 22:50 |
| stickster | yup. Go ahead, I got it | 22:50 |
| moixs | Marketing_press_publications | 22:50 |
| themayor | i should add some stuff to the list | 22:51 |
| themayor | ill do that today | 22:51 |
| stickster | themayor: I don't see digg, reddit, etc. there | 22:51 |
| stickster | Ah, OK | 22:51 |
| * stickster catches up | 22:51 | |
| themayor | i want to finish the virt thing so caroline can take a look at it | 22:51 |
| themayor | yeah i usually do digg, slashdot, reddit, propellerhead, newsvine, shoutwire and a few others | 22:52 |
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| themayor | ill add everything to the list today to make sure its official | 22:52 |
| stickster | Sweet | 22:53 |
| themayor | other than that, we need to make sure all the links get into the release announcement | 22:53 |
| themayor | i just emailed sparks and the list asking for progress | 22:53 |
| themayor | because not much was done yet | 22:54 |
| stickster | themayor: They were speaking about it in #fedora-docs earlier | 22:54 |
| themayor | stickster: we are going to be translating that, right? not rh press people, correct>? | 22:54 |
| stickster | themayor: Each locale can produce its own topside content for that announcement. | 22:54 |
| themayor | ah okay, as long as thats cool | 22:55 |
| stickster | The bottomside content in the announcement is pretty cut and dried and can be translated easily. For example, "To download, visit: <URL>" | 22:55 |
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| themayor | yup | 22:56 |
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| themayor | alright, so maybe moixs, can we get pages for each language of the ndn where they can write their own stuff on? | 22:56 |
| moixs | What do you mean by "get"? | 22:57 |
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| themayor | can we create | 22:57 |
| moixs | Edit the wiki the way you want, but one page per language for the announcement seems reasonable | 22:57 |
| moixs | yeah sure | 22:57 |
| themayor | okay do you have time to do it? | 22:57 |
| moixs | It should take no longer than 2 minutes to create empty pages, so yes | 22:58 |
| themayor | okay awesome | 22:59 |
| stickster | themayor: moixs: Releases/Announcements | 22:59 |
| stickster | Just pointing that out | 22:59 |
| moixs | Fedora_press_archive#Fedora_Press_Releases | 23:00 |
| moixs | Should we add them there? | 23:00 |
| moixs | (yes, i just discovered this section) | 23:00 |
| themayor | yeah release announcement sounds better | 23:00 |
| themayor | lets do that and work from there | 23:00 |
| themayor | if you send me a link, i can send it to the list notifying people that its there and they can use it | 23:01 |
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| moixs | Wasn't there a page for the english one already? | 23:02 |
| themayor | yes | 23:02 |
| * moixs is lost in links | 23:02 | |
| themayor | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Announcement_for_F11 | 23:02 |
| moixs | Good, I'm going to set up the pages for the other languages | 23:03 |
| moixs | Then, the translation teams need to update them | 23:04 |
| themayor | alright, so other than that, i think we are good through next week where we can bring up release day stuff again and finalize our plan | 23:04 |
| themayor | sound like a plan? | 23:04 |
| herlo | ya | 23:05 |
| themayor | stickster, spevack anything to add? | 23:05 |
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| stickster | themayor: No, just that you and Sparks share the ball for the release announcement | 23:06 |
| ianweller | oh my, a marketing meeting that i totally just missed | 23:07 |
| themayor | stickster: oy vey! | 23:08 |
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| stickster | ianweller: We assigned everything to you, don't worry about it. | 23:08 |
| ianweller | stickster: thanks. | 23:09 |
| themayor | thats rough | 23:09 |
| stickster | hee hee | 23:09 |
| ianweller | :D | 23:09 |
| themayor | anyway lets call it a meeting | 23:09 |
