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== Log ==
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:00:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hello
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:01:01"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | dychen_
| style="color: #42427e" | hi
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:01:01|Feb 17 15:01]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:01:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | welcome to the fedora-i18n meeting today
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:01:24"
! style="background-color: #818144" | pravins
| style="color: #818144" | hi
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:01:39"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | hi everyone
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:01:58"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | hi
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:02:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:02:26"
| colspan="2" | *juhp added an item on fontconfig
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:04:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok let's get started
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:04:52"
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:05:05"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | hi
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:05:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | so just a few ongoing items first
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:05:15"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | hi
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:05:15|Feb 17 15:05]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:05:16"
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:05:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | * ibus
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:05:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ibus seems to be working ok now in rawhide
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:06:13"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | yeah.
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:06:13|Feb 17 15:06]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:06:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | though still some things to improve
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:06:15|Feb 17 15:06]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:06:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I filed a couple of bugs this morning
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:06:25|Feb 17 15:06]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:06:47"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I saw them. and I am working on them
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:07:25"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | I am still consider how to decide which IM should be load by default
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:07:25|Feb 17 15:07]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:07:34"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm great time for my bugzilla password to expire... sigh
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:08:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang_: ok - the algorithm or implementation?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:08:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | or the list of IMEs?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:08:54"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | dychen_
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp: I think phuang_ means the default engine for each locale
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:08:59"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | juhp, I don't think hardcode IMEs list is good
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:09:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang_: how else to handle langs with multiple choices?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:09:46"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | multiple choices?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:09:46|Feb 17 15:09]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:09:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | priorities?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:09:47|Feb 17 15:09]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:10:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | s/choices/engines or maps/
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:10:20"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | juhp, btw, if user set some imes by self, and change the locale later, we how to handle this situation
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:10:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | like Chinese or Indic
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:10:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang_: I would say do nothing
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:10:36|Feb 17 15:10]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:11:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | though there could be a default mode (ie with no setting) use the default for the locale
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:11:20|Feb 17 15:11]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:11:47"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | but once user has set then I think ibus should just follow that choice
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:12:11"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | sounds reasonable
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:12:11|Feb 17 15:12]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:12:45"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | juhp, another situation: at first a user use ja locale, and then changed to cn locale, what we should do?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:12:45|Feb 17 15:12]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:12:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | choosing default engine by priority seems reasonable too - though it requires all the IME to maintain that though
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:13:27"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | juhp, and the user not do any setting for ibus
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:13:27|Feb 17 15:13]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:13:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang_: well I think I answered that - I suggest either keep initial IME or maybe better(?) which to cn default?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:14:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | sorry /which/switch/
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:14:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I don't think that case is as important though as having a default
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:14:51|Feb 17 15:14]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:14:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | enabled
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:15:06"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | ok
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:15:06|Feb 17 15:15]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:15:48"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | typically users would not switch desktop between zh and ja (maybe to/from en might be more common)
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:16:00"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | probably for en, etc don't need a default engine
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:16:07"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | yeah, maybe en to cn, or ...
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:16:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | right
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:16:59"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | dychen_, K410: how are you guys going with porting the chewing and table engines?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:17:13"
! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | phuang_
| style="color: #8c4a4a" | or cn to en. I think user will want to keep default settings on cn locale
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:17:18"
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:17:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | K410: acevery's code is in git?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:17:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang_: right
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:17:27"
! style="background-color: #42427e" | dychen_
| style="color: #42427e" | juhp: ibus-chewing is working, just need a few polish.
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:17:27|Feb 17 15:17]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:17:32"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | just merged acevery's master
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:17:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | phuang_: so yeah probably best to keep current choice
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:17:52"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | dychen_: cool
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:17:52|Feb 17 15:17]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:17:54"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | now test and dev based on his progress
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:18:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | K410: does it work?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:18:01|Feb 17 15:18]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:18:41"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | user operation is working, confirming quality now
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:18:41|Feb 17 15:18]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:18:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | anyway encourage all you who use inputmethods to file bugs for anything you spot and also rfe for features that are missing
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:19:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | K410: ok good
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:19:03|Feb 17 15:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:19:24"
! style="background-color: #818144" | pravins
| style="color: #818144" | sure
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:19:24|Feb 17 15:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:19:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | there are only two left for feature freeze
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:19:33|Feb 17 15:19]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:20:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | * fonts repackaging
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:20:28|Feb 17 15:20]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:20:45"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | well not too much to say here but still tracking this
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:20:45|Feb 17 15:20]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:21:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I think tagoh3 updated vlgothic and rahulb lohit so that is good
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:21:37"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | juhp, yep
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:21:37|Feb 17 15:21]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:21:38"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I went through all the open bugs and labelled the summaries with the font names (fun;)
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:21:38|Feb 17 15:21]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:21:46"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | I did culmus and lohit so far
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:21:46|Feb 17 15:21]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:21:51"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | the numbers are going down
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:21:58"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | rahulb: yes thanks
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:21:58|Feb 17 15:21]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:22:09"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I guess there are still a few more to do...
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:22:09|Feb 17 15:22]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:22:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | maybe we should have a F11I18n tracker or something
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:22:54"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | yep, most others are single font packages, would be easier
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:23:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | un-core-fonts has not been done yet either
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:23:13"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | rahulb: cool
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:23:13|Feb 17 15:23]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:23:24"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I may have to do that one...
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:23:40"
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:25:39"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I will just comment here on another smaller item that I dropped from earlier - about i18n-team cvs mails bouncing - so actually it is due to the committer's fp.o email not being on the mailing list
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:26:04"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | finally worked that out... so just thought I would mention that hear
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:26:41"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | no bouncing anymore you mean?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:26:41|Feb 17 15:26]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:27:00"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | so subscribing to fedora-i18n-bugs with one's fp.o address would allow the commit mails fwiw
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:27:03"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | no :)
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:27:22"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | aha. cool
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! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | but yeah we could try drop cvscommit mails for i18n-team, hmm
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:28:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | K410: forgot how about subpackaging for ibus-table tables btw?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:29:09"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | cangjie?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:29:26"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | K410: I thought the tables were going to be separated upstream
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:29:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | K410: that too
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:30:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | erm sorry not subpackaging
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:30:12"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I meant separating to a new package
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:30:12|Feb 17 15:30]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:30:28"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | upstream has i-t-cangjie and i-t-erbi
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:30:28|Feb 17 15:30]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:30:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hope that will still happen in time for f11?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:30:55"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | K410: aha just those two?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:31:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I think it would be better to decouple the data completely if possible
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:31:25"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | on git, yes
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:31:25|Feb 17 15:31]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:31:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:31:28|Feb 17 15:31]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:31:43"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | let's move to the next topic
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:31:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | * fontconfig issues in rawhide and F10
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:31:56"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | sorry, wubi, extraphrase, zhengma too
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:31:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | this is an interesting one
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | (github collapsed that up)
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:32:05|Feb 17 15:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:32:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | K410: ok cool - all separate projects now?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:32:15|Feb 17 15:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:32:19"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | yes
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:32:30"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok that is a lot packages then...
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:32:30|Feb 17 15:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:32:41"
! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | will do it right after api fix
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:32:41|Feb 17 15:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:32:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | K410: maybe time to starting packaging them too when you have time
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:32:44|Feb 17 15:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:32:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | cool
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:32:49|Feb 17 15:32]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:33:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | so we thought we have fixed the fontconfig issues for CJK in rawhide and now they turn up for f10 too it seems
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:33:28|Feb 17 15:33]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:34:07"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: particularly since vlgothic was pushed to f10 updates?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:34:07|Feb 17 15:34]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:35:01"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | hmm probably I should have focus the item text a little more carefully
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:35:01"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | juhp: yes. I should push updates synchronously since fontconfig conf in other font packages is relevant to fix this
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:35:01|Feb 17 15:35]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:35:15"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | okay
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:35:15|Feb 17 15:35]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:35:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: so we need to update all the main cjk fonts?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:35:36|Feb 17 15:35]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:36:19"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | juhp: if we've changed them to apply conf for locale-specific, yes.
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:36:19|Feb 17 15:36]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:36:27"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | and how about vlgothic for all sans?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:36:28"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ok
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:37:29"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | Since we didn't hear anything from Behdad still unclear if this is a side-effect of fontconfig changes upstream, or due to the new packaging or new intended fontconfig behaviour?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:39:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: probably I should file a bug for that?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:39:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | anyway let's go to the next topic
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:39:24"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | a bug what?
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! style="background-color: #4b904b" | K410
| style="color: #4b904b" | on rawhide, I have done the .conf patch on cjkuni side
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:39:39"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | for font packages on F-10?
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:39:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | tagoh3: I mean seeing vlgothic for ascii on the desktop
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:40:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ja desktop
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:40:10"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | ah
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:40:58"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | was trying to reproduce on a test instance but didn't get there yet
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:41:11"
! style="background-color: #488888" | tagoh3
| style="color: #488888" | sure. dunno which packages the bug is really for.
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:41:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | * Unicode 5.1 support for indic - RahulBhalerao
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! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | I was working on 5.1 support in pango
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:41:47"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | figured out pango behavior for all new characters
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:42:21"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | there is bug filed on fedora for the same https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485050
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:42:21|Feb 17 15:42]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:42:22"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | aha
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:42:22|Feb 17 15:42]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:42:23"
! style="background-color: #4d4d93" | buggbot
| style="color: #4d4d93" | Bug 485050: medium, low, ---, besfahbo@redhat.com, NEW, Unicode 5.1 support in pango - Indic Lanuages
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:42:23|Feb 17 15:42]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:42:41"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | also filed it upstream with a patch for indic module
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:42:41|Feb 17 15:42]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:42:53"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | waiting for behdad to commit it
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:42:53|Feb 17 15:42]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:43:11"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | if that is done the rendering support will be complete
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:43:14"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | sounds good
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|- id="tFeb 17 15:43:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | rahulb: you could link the fedora bug to upstream if you like
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:43:33|Feb 17 15:43]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:43:35"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | still some designing contribution needed on fonts side
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:43:35|Feb 17 15:43]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:43:54"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ah yes
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:43:54|Feb 17 15:43]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:43:58"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | juhp, I have just mentioned the upstream bug number there
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:43:58|Feb 17 15:43]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:44:02"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | yep
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:44:02|Feb 17 15:44]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:44:28"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | anyway that was all about it
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:44:28|Feb 17 15:44]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:44:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | I just meant "External Bugs"
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:44:33|Feb 17 15:44]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:44:40"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | thanks
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:44:40|Feb 17 15:44]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:44:43"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | ok
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:44:43|Feb 17 15:44]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:45:08"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | * firefox indic locales smoke tests
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:45:08|Feb 17 15:45]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:45:15"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | nothing much on the next topic, just like to mention that
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:45:15|Feb 17 15:45]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:45:16"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | for 3.1?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:45:16|Feb 17 15:45]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:45:21"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | yep
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:45:21|Feb 17 15:45]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:45:41"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | actually I met Set Bindernagel at Gnunify last week
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:45:41|Feb 17 15:45]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:45:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | so you're planning so testing of that there?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:45:44|Feb 17 15:45]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:45:49"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | aha
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:45:49|Feb 17 15:45]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:46:10"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | and we had some discussion about moving 'beta' of localized ff to live
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:46:10|Feb 17 15:46]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:46:21"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | ah good
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:46:21|Feb 17 15:46]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:46:26"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | and thus there needs some testing to be completed
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:46:26|Feb 17 15:46]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:46:35"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | rahulb: so it means upstream smoke tests?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:46:35|Feb 17 15:46]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:46:36"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | its almost in a final stage
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:46:36|Feb 17 15:46]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:46:41"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | yep
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:46:41|Feb 17 15:46]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:46:44"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | excellent
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:46:44|Feb 17 15:46]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:47:07"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | once that is done, very soon many indic loacles will come live for firefox
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:47:07|Feb 17 15:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:47:15"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | thanks juhp
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:47:15|Feb 17 15:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:47:18"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | rahulb: does it affect 3.1b3?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:47:18|Feb 17 15:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:47:33"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | or that is probably already frozen?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:47:33|Feb 17 15:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:47:55"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | depends on the translation status of particular language
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:47:55|Feb 17 15:47]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:48:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | okay
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:48:06|Feb 17 15:48]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:48:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | that is everything on the agenda
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:48:25|Feb 17 15:48]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:48:35"
! style="background-color: #854685" | rahulb
| style="color: #854685" | thats is it, I will further helping ff team with these locales hereon
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:48:35|Feb 17 15:48]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:48:50"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | nice
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:48:50|Feb 17 15:48]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:48:57"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | * open discussion
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:48:57|Feb 17 15:48]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:49:20"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | so any other topics to bring up today before we close the meeting?
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:49:20|Feb 17 15:49]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:51:36"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | if not then thanks everyone for participating
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:51:36|Feb 17 15:51]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:52:06"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | we meet again here in two weeks time (at the time of the feature freeze)
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:52:06|Feb 17 15:52]]
|- id="tFeb 17 15:52:25"
! style="background-color: #407a40" | juhp
| style="color: #407a40" | # meeting closed
|| [[#tFeb 17 15:52:25|Feb 17 15:52]]
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Revision as of 04:34, 3 March 2009

Fedora I18N Meeting 2009-02-17

Agenda

Ongoing:

New items:

  • fontconfig issues in rawhide and F10
  • Unicode 5.1 support for indic - RahulBhalerao
  • firefox indic locales smoke tests -RahulBhalerao
  • Open floor
  • Next meeting

Log

juhp hello Feb 17 15:00
dychen_ hi Feb 17 15:01
juhp welcome to the fedora-i18n meeting today Feb 17 15:01
pravins hi Feb 17 15:01
rahulb hi everyone Feb 17 15:01
tagoh3 hi Feb 17 15:01
juhp https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings Feb 17 15:02
*juhp added an item on fontconfig Feb 17 15:02
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juhp ok let's get started Feb 17 15:04
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phuang_ hi Feb 17 15:05
juhp so just a few ongoing items first Feb 17 15:05
K410 hi Feb 17 15:05
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juhp * ibus Feb 17 15:05
juhp ibus seems to be working ok now in rawhide Feb 17 15:05
phuang_ yeah. Feb 17 15:06
juhp though still some things to improve Feb 17 15:06
juhp I filed a couple of bugs this morning Feb 17 15:06
phuang_ I saw them. and I am working on them Feb 17 15:06
phuang_ I am still consider how to decide which IM should be load by default Feb 17 15:07
juhp hmm great time for my bugzilla password to expire... sigh Feb 17 15:07
juhp phuang_: ok - the algorithm or implementation? Feb 17 15:08
juhp or the list of IMEs? Feb 17 15:08
dychen_ juhp: I think phuang_ means the default engine for each locale Feb 17 15:08
phuang_ juhp, I don't think hardcode IMEs list is good Feb 17 15:08
juhp phuang_: how else to handle langs with multiple choices? Feb 17 15:09
phuang_ multiple choices? Feb 17 15:09
juhp priorities? Feb 17 15:09
juhp s/choices/engines or maps/ Feb 17 15:10
phuang_ juhp, btw, if user set some imes by self, and change the locale later, we how to handle this situation Feb 17 15:10
juhp like Chinese or Indic Feb 17 15:10
juhp phuang_: I would say do nothing Feb 17 15:10
juhp though there could be a default mode (ie with no setting) use the default for the locale Feb 17 15:11
juhp but once user has set then I think ibus should just follow that choice Feb 17 15:11
tagoh3 sounds reasonable Feb 17 15:12
phuang_ juhp, another situation: at first a user use ja locale, and then changed to cn locale, what we should do? Feb 17 15:12
juhp choosing default engine by priority seems reasonable too - though it requires all the IME to maintain that though Feb 17 15:12
phuang_ juhp, and the user not do any setting for ibus Feb 17 15:13
juhp phuang_: well I think I answered that - I suggest either keep initial IME or maybe better(?) which to cn default? Feb 17 15:13
juhp sorry /which/switch/ Feb 17 15:14
juhp I don't think that case is as important though as having a default Feb 17 15:14
juhp enabled Feb 17 15:14
phuang_ ok Feb 17 15:15
juhp typically users would not switch desktop between zh and ja (maybe to/from en might be more common) Feb 17 15:15
juhp probably for en, etc don't need a default engine Feb 17 15:16
phuang_ yeah, maybe en to cn, or ... Feb 17 15:16
juhp right Feb 17 15:16
juhp dychen_, K410: how are you guys going with porting the chewing and table engines? Feb 17 15:16
phuang_ or cn to en. I think user will want to keep default settings on cn locale Feb 17 15:17
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juhp K410: acevery's code is in git? Feb 17 15:17
juhp phuang_: right Feb 17 15:17
dychen_ juhp: ibus-chewing is working, just need a few polish. Feb 17 15:17
K410 just merged acevery's master Feb 17 15:17
juhp phuang_: so yeah probably best to keep current choice Feb 17 15:17
juhp dychen_: cool Feb 17 15:17
K410 now test and dev based on his progress Feb 17 15:17
juhp K410: does it work? Feb 17 15:18
K410 user operation is working, confirming quality now Feb 17 15:18
juhp anyway encourage all you who use inputmethods to file bugs for anything you spot and also rfe for features that are missing Feb 17 15:18
juhp K410: ok good Feb 17 15:19
pravins sure Feb 17 15:19
juhp there are only two left for feature freeze Feb 17 15:19
juhp * fonts repackaging Feb 17 15:20
juhp well not too much to say here but still tracking this Feb 17 15:20
juhp I think tagoh3 updated vlgothic and rahulb lohit so that is good Feb 17 15:21
rahulb juhp, yep Feb 17 15:21
juhp I went through all the open bugs and labelled the summaries with the font names (fun;) Feb 17 15:21
rahulb I did culmus and lohit so far Feb 17 15:21
juhp the numbers are going down Feb 17 15:21
juhp rahulb: yes thanks Feb 17 15:21
juhp I guess there are still a few more to do... Feb 17 15:22
juhp maybe we should have a F11I18n tracker or something Feb 17 15:22
rahulb yep, most others are single font packages, would be easier Feb 17 15:22
juhp un-core-fonts has not been done yet either Feb 17 15:23
juhp rahulb: cool Feb 17 15:23
juhp I may have to do that one... Feb 17 15:23
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juhp I will just comment here on another smaller item that I dropped from earlier - about i18n-team cvs mails bouncing - so actually it is due to the committer's fp.o email not being on the mailing list Feb 17 15:25
juhp finally worked that out... so just thought I would mention that hear Feb 17 15:26
tagoh3 no bouncing anymore you mean? Feb 17 15:26
juhp so subscribing to fedora-i18n-bugs with one's fp.o address would allow the commit mails fwiw Feb 17 15:27
juhp no :) Feb 17 15:27
tagoh3 aha. cool Feb 17 15:27
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juhp but yeah we could try drop cvscommit mails for i18n-team, hmm Feb 17 15:27
juhp K410: forgot how about subpackaging for ibus-table tables btw? Feb 17 15:28
K410 cangjie? Feb 17 15:29
juhp K410: I thought the tables were going to be separated upstream Feb 17 15:29
juhp K410: that too Feb 17 15:29
juhp erm sorry not subpackaging Feb 17 15:30
juhp I meant separating to a new package Feb 17 15:30
K410 upstream has i-t-cangjie and i-t-erbi Feb 17 15:30
juhp hope that will still happen in time for f11? Feb 17 15:30
juhp K410: aha just those two? Feb 17 15:30
juhp I think it would be better to decouple the data completely if possible Feb 17 15:31
K410 on git, yes Feb 17 15:31
juhp ok Feb 17 15:31
juhp let's move to the next topic Feb 17 15:31
juhp * fontconfig issues in rawhide and F10 Feb 17 15:31
K410 sorry, wubi, extraphrase, zhengma too Feb 17 15:31
juhp this is an interesting one Feb 17 15:31
K410 (github collapsed that up) Feb 17 15:32
juhp K410: ok cool - all separate projects now? Feb 17 15:32
K410 yes Feb 17 15:32
juhp ok that is a lot packages then... Feb 17 15:32
K410 will do it right after api fix Feb 17 15:32
juhp K410: maybe time to starting packaging them too when you have time Feb 17 15:32
juhp cool Feb 17 15:32
juhp so we thought we have fixed the fontconfig issues for CJK in rawhide and now they turn up for f10 too it seems Feb 17 15:33
juhp tagoh3: particularly since vlgothic was pushed to f10 updates? Feb 17 15:34
juhp hmm probably I should have focus the item text a little more carefully Feb 17 15:35
tagoh3 juhp: yes. I should push updates synchronously since fontconfig conf in other font packages is relevant to fix this Feb 17 15:35
juhp okay Feb 17 15:35
juhp tagoh3: so we need to update all the main cjk fonts? Feb 17 15:35
tagoh3 juhp: if we've changed them to apply conf for locale-specific, yes. Feb 17 15:36
juhp and how about vlgothic for all sans? Feb 17 15:36
juhp ok Feb 17 15:36
juhp Since we didn't hear anything from Behdad still unclear if this is a side-effect of fontconfig changes upstream, or due to the new packaging or new intended fontconfig behaviour? Feb 17 15:37
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juhp tagoh3: probably I should file a bug for that? Feb 17 15:39
juhp anyway let's go to the next topic Feb 17 15:39
tagoh3 a bug what? Feb 17 15:39
K410 on rawhide, I have done the .conf patch on cjkuni side Feb 17 15:39
tagoh3 for font packages on F-10? Feb 17 15:39
juhp tagoh3: I mean seeing vlgothic for ascii on the desktop Feb 17 15:39
juhp ja desktop Feb 17 15:40
tagoh3 ah Feb 17 15:40
juhp was trying to reproduce on a test instance but didn't get there yet Feb 17 15:40
tagoh3 sure. dunno which packages the bug is really for. Feb 17 15:41
juhp * Unicode 5.1 support for indic - RahulBhalerao Feb 17 15:41
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rahulb I was working on 5.1 support in pango Feb 17 15:41
rahulb figured out pango behavior for all new characters Feb 17 15:41
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rahulb there is bug filed on fedora for the same https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485050 Feb 17 15:42
juhp aha Feb 17 15:42
buggbot Bug 485050: medium, low, ---, besfahbo@redhat.com, NEW, Unicode 5.1 support in pango - Indic Lanuages Feb 17 15:42
rahulb also filed it upstream with a patch for indic module Feb 17 15:42
rahulb waiting for behdad to commit it Feb 17 15:42
rahulb if that is done the rendering support will be complete Feb 17 15:43
juhp sounds good Feb 17 15:43
juhp rahulb: you could link the fedora bug to upstream if you like Feb 17 15:43
rahulb still some designing contribution needed on fonts side Feb 17 15:43
juhp ah yes Feb 17 15:43
rahulb juhp, I have just mentioned the upstream bug number there Feb 17 15:43
juhp yep Feb 17 15:44
rahulb anyway that was all about it Feb 17 15:44
juhp I just meant "External Bugs" Feb 17 15:44
juhp thanks Feb 17 15:44
rahulb ok Feb 17 15:44
juhp * firefox indic locales smoke tests Feb 17 15:45
rahulb nothing much on the next topic, just like to mention that Feb 17 15:45
juhp for 3.1? Feb 17 15:45
rahulb yep Feb 17 15:45
rahulb actually I met Set Bindernagel at Gnunify last week Feb 17 15:45
juhp so you're planning so testing of that there? Feb 17 15:45
juhp aha Feb 17 15:45
rahulb and we had some discussion about moving 'beta' of localized ff to live Feb 17 15:46
juhp ah good Feb 17 15:46
rahulb and thus there needs some testing to be completed Feb 17 15:46
juhp rahulb: so it means upstream smoke tests? Feb 17 15:46
rahulb its almost in a final stage Feb 17 15:46
rahulb yep Feb 17 15:46
juhp excellent Feb 17 15:46
rahulb once that is done, very soon many indic loacles will come live for firefox Feb 17 15:47
rahulb thanks juhp Feb 17 15:47
juhp rahulb: does it affect 3.1b3? Feb 17 15:47
juhp or that is probably already frozen? Feb 17 15:47
rahulb depends on the translation status of particular language Feb 17 15:47
juhp okay Feb 17 15:48
juhp that is everything on the agenda Feb 17 15:48
rahulb thats is it, I will further helping ff team with these locales hereon Feb 17 15:48
juhp nice Feb 17 15:48
juhp * open discussion Feb 17 15:48
juhp so any other topics to bring up today before we close the meeting? Feb 17 15:49
juhp if not then thanks everyone for participating Feb 17 15:51
juhp we meet again here in two weeks time (at the time of the feature freeze) Feb 17 15:52
juhp # meeting closed Feb 17 15:52

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