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<h1>IRC Log of FAMSCo Meeting - 14 Mar 2008</h1>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">hi, just 2 mins</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">hi francesco</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">hi guys</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">hi everybody</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">ok, i think the others will join us in the next minutes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">we can start</td></tr>
<tr><td class="action" colspan="3">*cebbert (n=cebbert@nat/redhat/x-5e55eba896d60c17) has joined #fedora-meeting</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">It's time for the roll call</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">FrancescoUgolini</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">JohnBabich</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">FabianAffolter</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">MaxSpevack</td></tr>
<tr><td class="action" colspan="3">*knurd is now known as knurd_afk</td></tr>
<tr><td class="action" colspan="3">*wolfy (n=lonewolf@fedora/wolfy) has left #fedora-meeting ("Your'er so cheap, I bet you look under the bed in the morning to see if you lost any sleep.")</td></tr>
<tr><td class="action" colspan="3">*fugolini has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))</td></tr>
<tr><td class="action" colspan="3">*spevack thinks things have been going pretty well overall the last few weeks for famsco.  lots of good progress</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Unfortunately Jeffrey can't join the meeting due to work issues</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">spevack: this sounds good :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Before we start with the agenda i want to know who will log this meeting</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">last week was John</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">is ok for you to do this again ?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">John = jmbuser</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">fugolini: No problem</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">thank you</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Today's agenda:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685"> 1. Events Budgets status (to be defined in the list)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">2. Wiki Pages Cleanup status</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">3. Ambassadors Project status (events, activities etc...)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">1. As i said Jeffrey can't be here</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">well, i think we pretty much worked out all that budget stuff on the mailing list, and Jeffrey will send it to ambassadors list this weekend</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">He is working hard defining great budget policies</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">sorry but i'm typing on a real small keyboard</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">spevack: do you want to say something about it ?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">well, just one quick thing</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think that once jeffrey sends it to the list.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">it is important to remember that we have been thinking about this for a week or two now</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">other ambassadors might have questions, and let's make sure that we take time to watch the mailing list and help people understand</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">I think that we need to be open to suggestions too</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">the entire point of the process around getting th Events page updated</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">one month before the quarter starts</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">is that so everyone can make sure that we are using our money well</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">the processes we are proposing are not too complicated</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">but i want to make sure people know that we are open to feedback</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">EOF</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Surely i will personally work overe there, i love feedbacks :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">thank you Maxù</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Ok, personally what i had to say about it is on the M-L</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">take a look at it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Let's go on</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685"> 2. Wiki Pages Cleanup status</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Today i want to spend some time over this issue</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">because it was a little bit undertaken</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">and i was one of the people that undertook this</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">During the last meeting i gave a deadline</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">can i ask a quick question</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">since i missed the last meeting?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">yep</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Is the goal basically to look at every page under Ambassadors/* on the wiki, determine if it is still useful, should be deleted, needs updating, etc?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">this is the first task we wanted to take care</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think that is a very good idea</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">and one that we are hoping that various Steering committees for all sub-projects will do with their part of the wiki.</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">Here is what I was thinking about doing.  Francesco, you can tell me what you think</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">ThomasCanniot</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">(sorry for being late)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">it's an hard job, but we have to divide the work between us</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">MrTom: np</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">+</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">I was simply going to do a search on the wiki for all the pages under Ambassadors/* and make a list of pages that I think could be ok to delete, put those in a list, and let people consider it.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">EOF</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">bop80medic: go ahead</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">spevack: good, i created i small wiki page you can see here: <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/CleanUpPages">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/CleanUpPages</a></td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">bop80medic:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">fugolin1: i will add to it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">I am a bit late.. and I have to go on here</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">I am AndreasR</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">happy to see you</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">we change our corenetwork this weekend and I have to go one with some work</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">so I can not participate our meeting</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">bop80medic: after the meeting we will send to Ambs and FAmSCo list the log</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">thx a lot, sorry</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">but I have still a lot things to plan</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">will read the log and communicate throught our mailinglist</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I think everyone at famsco (except who is working in other task, like budget,  but they are accepted if they want to work )</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">so thanks max</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">:)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">jmbuser:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #8c4a4a">bop80medic</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #8c4a4a">thx too ... will leave now.. have a good meeting</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">I can do some wiki cleanup too</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">now it's only listing, but after we will finish such task we will start working over it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">fugolin1: i think the wiki cleanup is important, and i will help!</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">so, i think we could spend 10 minutes per day browsing the wiki</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">the next task will be the concrete activity</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">fugolin1: let's make it a goal to have a list of all the pages under Ambassadors/* that we think either should be deleted or that are "questionable" for next week?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #42427e">fabian_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #42427e">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">+1 too</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">there are only about 300 pages, and most of them are meeting logs, so it won't be too hard</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40"><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMain?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Ambassadors&titlesearch=Titles">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMain?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Ambassadors&titlesearch=Titles</a></td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">so, the next task after the listing will be the cleanup work</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i think we could ask for a wide partecipation off all Ambs proj</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">my personal idea is that we have to create a soustenable way to update</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">faster and frequently</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">it's not possible to have a lot of outdated pages and noboday takes care of it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">FAmSCo will coordinate the work, it would be responsible for some "sensible" pages</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">and the other pages would be updated by the other ambs.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">What do you think?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">fugolin1: sounds like a decent plan.  i'm sure it will work out, especially once we start to identify pages</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">jmbuser:</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">Is everyone familiar with how to track wiki changes using a wildcard?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">eof</td></tr>
<tr><td class="action" colspan="3">*spevack is</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">It's in your UserPreferences page</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">spevack: correct</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">If you put "Ambassadors.*" for example, then you will get an email when any page with Ambassadors in it changes.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">just in case anyone doesn't know</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">spevack: That was my point - thanks</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i tracked some pages in the past</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i'm using this tool in wikipedia</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">but this is offtopic</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">The next meeting we will discuss about the result of the first part</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">We should remind people of this facility when we ask for help on the list</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">eof</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I think we have to take care of this issue this week, i invite everyone to report everything he thinks important concerning this issue</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">hi all!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">sorry.. im late</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">it's important that everyone knows the opinion of the other</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">RodrigoPadula: np</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">*others</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">if nobody has other questions we can go ahead</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">ok ?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">3</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685"> 3. Ambassadors Project status (events, activities etc...)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">the last year we didn't have a lot of FAmSCo meetings</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i think it could be a good idea to have a small space to discuss briefly about less important issues etc...</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I want to start with a simple one: Fedora Ambassadors Voice posters</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">thanks to Nicubunu (he made a great job) we had some cool posters</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">As jeffrey remembered the flag template doesn't follow our policies</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">so i think we could accept two posters the Post-It one and the Face one</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i think we could produce some of them and put at some events</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">to sponsorize our sub-project</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">that's all</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">this is exactly the sort of stuff that our $12k per quarter budget is for.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">good :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">The next small issue is FAmSCo member events partecipations</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i think all we had to know where FAmSCo is</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">just to have an ideas to improve our presence in certain countries/regions</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i don't know if you agree with me</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">that's only a proposal</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">tell me</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">here is what i think</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">FAMSCo members should try to get to at least one or two events a year that are relatively close to their location.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4d4d93">fab_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4d4d93">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">most famsco members already do FAR MORE than this</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">especially in europe</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">like fabian for example :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">you sure ? :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">and you too tom ;)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #488888">MrTom</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #488888">roll on next one :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">unfortunately this year was not good for me (expecially in may/june due to exams)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i will try to carry the second part of year events</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">*BIG events</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i will also work in Italy (but with smallest ones)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">fugolin1: it's no problem.  i will be there too, which will help with having more people at events.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">in EMEA</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4d4d93">fab_a</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4d4d93">i attend an event mostly as an ambassador and not as a member of famsco. of course i'm a member of famsco but the visitors don't care about that :-)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">RodrigoPadula:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">here in brazil i'm covering all important events (see the events list)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">and now, i'm working to improve and support the latin american events and communities</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">I think we have done a very good job of having people who are active leaders in Ambassadors end up on FAMSCo.  And also, FAMSCo has a very global makeup.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">this year.. will be a good year for fedora in the latin america</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">US, EMEA, South America, etc.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">jmbuser:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">and that is important -- because Greg and I -- our goal from *Red Hat* is to ensure that Fedora continues to glow globally, not just in the USA.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">s/glow/grow</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">EOF</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #97974f">skvidal</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #97974f">I like glow</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">I can cover Middle East and South Asia fairly easily - and parts of Africa if needed</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I think we could map the avaiability</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">I think GITEX in Dubai was a success and would like to do it again this Autumn</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">EOF</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jmbuser: +1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">of FAmSCo members</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jmbuser: i want to come :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">we are improving the resources to support the latin american community: now we have magazines in Portugues and Spanish, Fórum, Web sites and others</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">FISL will be great!!! With Greg, me, David, and others</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">spevack: You're always welcome :-)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">I think we have to be able to make some presentations at the events</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">Max, you need to come to Brazil ;-)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">RodrigoPadula: at some point I will... Greg will be there this year!  As you know, my focus is going to be on Europe, so i will be over there... but some day ;)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">;-)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">it's all ok?</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i think we have to be able to make some presentations at the events</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i know our primarily work is not to promote ambs project</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">i'm presenting 2 or 3 Lectures by event</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">but i think our project is an innvoative one</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">it is my belief that the most *valuable* events are not ones where the is only a booth, but where we have a Birds of a Feather session, or a Q&A, or various opportunities to speak or give a talk</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i think we could make some slides that everyone at famsco could use to start</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i think people could be interested by such discussions</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">spevack:</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">my opinion -- it is moderately useful to try to make slides for people, but overall i am not sure how useful this is</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">everyone has a different presentation style</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">some people (like me) try to *never* use slides unless it is absolutely necessary</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think that the most important thing we can do</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">is make it clear to people who organize events that we want to see people giving talks about Feodra</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">and events that are going to include sessions or talks</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">get more funding, as a means of us demonstrating that importance.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">not to say that every event must have a session</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">but the big ones definitely should</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i'm talking about slides, but i was talking about something that can resume the keypoint of a possible discussion</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">jmbuser:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">offtopic -- /me needs to go in about 5 minutes</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">One important consideration is the type of event - trade show, commercial, open source, etc.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">ok, this is the last topic we are discussing today</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">jmbuser: +1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">Is the target developers and/or end users, management, etc?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">jmbuser: it was only an idea, i wasn't talking about defined talks etc...</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">as i said this meeting would be the place to discuss case per case</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">each event</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">and try to define some guidelines</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">that's all</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">read the beggining of this topic</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">i think that one of the positive side effects</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">of trying to use May 1 as a deadline for the June - August events</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">is that it will give us a chance to examine each event</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">and suggest to the organizers what sorts of things should be at it</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">depending on size, what type of people come, etc.</td></tr>
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<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">i have many events to cover!! sugestion are very welcome!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">RodrigoPadula: as i said at the begginning of this issue</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">this would be the place to discuss about this</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">RodrigoPadula: you are already doing a great job ;)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">after i took an off-topic way</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">At the end: would  to add thyouis space or just to define some key meetings to talk about such issue?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">bad keyboard</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">Would you add this space in each meeting or ...</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">that's a question</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">jmbuser:</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">Do you mean something like - these are upcoming events and discuss strategy?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">eof</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">ok, i was a little bit caotic</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i'm talking about upcoming events that will be covered by a famsco member</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i think it would be better to define it in a mail</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">fugolin1: why don't we move it to the list then, and talk about it there?</td></tr>
<tr><td class="action" colspan="3">*spevack needs to go anyway :(</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">yep</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">it is what i want :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">for today we have finished</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">thank you for leading our meeting today francesco!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">+1</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">thank you too</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #407a40">spevack</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #407a40">talk to you all later -- have a good weekend.</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">ok</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">thanks to be here</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i will post the proposal tomorrow</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">thanks max!!</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">today i'm using my ibook and it has a really uncofortable keyboard</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">blah....</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">see you! I will send to you a mail with many latin american results ;-)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">the next time i will use a wired one</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">RodrigoPadula: great</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">as you know i love feedbacks</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">;-)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">i love results hehehe</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">i work better if i had some datas to analyze</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">ehehe</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">result is my second name :)</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #818144">jmbuser</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #818144">Is the meeting over officially?</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #4b904b">RodrigoPadula</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #4b904b">in latin american... all is going very well</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">ops</td></tr>
<tr><th class="nick" style="background: #854685">fugolin1</th><td class="text" colspan="2" style="color: #854685">== Meeting Adjourned ==</td></tr>
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