| themayor
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okay, let the meeting come to order
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12:00
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| quaid
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btw
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12:00
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| themayor
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we'll wait a couple minutes to let people file in, but please lets start the ROLL CALL
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12:00
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| quaid
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we did get the other meeting slot in #fedora-meeting
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12:00
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| * lcafiero plays the role of larry cafiero
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12:00
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| * gregdek will be in and out, call me by name if you need me
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12:00
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| quaid
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I presumptively put us on the meeting channel page for this time, too, to hold the slot
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12:00
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| themayor
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quaid: awesome, yeah i knew you got it, but just wanted to make sure we dont lose anyone
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12:01
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| quaid
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ok, then _next_week_ we'll start telling people before the meeting to head to that channel instead of stay here?
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12:01
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| themayor
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yeah absolutely
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12:01
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| themayor
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in the announce i said this should be the last week in here
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12:01
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| kushal
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so Roll Call ?
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12:01
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| mizmo
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yo
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12:02
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| themayor
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yeah roll call
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12:02
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| * quaid is still Karsten
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12:02
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| kushal
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Kushal Das
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12:02
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| ria
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Ria Das
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12:02
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| * lcafiero still larry cafiero
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12:02
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| * ke4qqq is here
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12:04
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| kushal
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please continue
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12:04
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| kushal
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why we stopped ?
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12:05
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| themayor
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we are waiting for role call
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12:05
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| fugolini
|
FrancescoUgolini
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12:05
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| * fugolini will be afk for 5mins
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12:06
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| kushal
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themayor, start the class :p
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12:06
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| themayor
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okay awesome
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12:06
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| themayor
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lets go
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12:06
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| themayor
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks
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12:06
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| themayor
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pull that up
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12:06
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12:07
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| themayor
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we are continuing discussion of our long term goals
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12:07
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| themayor
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basically as a summary
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12:08
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| themayor
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last meeting
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12:08
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| * fugolini brb
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12:08
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| themayor
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we all agreed that we need to marketing featuring better
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12:09
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| themayor
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and we need more management of press leading up to and at release time
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12:09
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| themayor
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so based on that, quaid updated the task list
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12:10
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| themayor
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is stickster around?
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12:10
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| themayor
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maybe he can update us on press efforts for the forthcoming release
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12:10
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| ke4qqq
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stickster: is in hospital visiting his mother iirc
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12:11
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| themayor
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ah yeah
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12:11
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| themayor
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sorry
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12:11
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| themayor
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i forgot i read that befoe
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12:12
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| quaid
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Caroline is back as our @redhat.com PR liaison
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12:12
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| quaid
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paul has written to some lists about the major features they are focusing on in press work
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12:12
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| themayor
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yup and yup
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12:12
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| themayor
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caroline is back from leave
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12:12
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| quaid
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btw, I recommended we add "XFS available during installation" to that list (although it's been in since F9?); purely as a marketing move and response to the years of complaints :)
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12:13
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| themayor
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we've had that for much longer than f9 actually
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12:13
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| quaid
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ah, guess I did miss that :)
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12:13
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| * quaid pipes down
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12:13
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| ke4qqq
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really?? I don't recall it in f8
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12:14
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| ke4qqq
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but perhaps I missed it
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12:14
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| themayor
|
anyway
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12:14
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| themayor
|
yes, we should put that in there
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12:14
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| fugolini
|
?
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12:14
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| themayor
|
okay anyway, if paul isnt here, lets table the press stuff for next week
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12:16
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| themayor
|
next week we need to have a serious discussion of that
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12:16
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| fugolini
|
May I ask you a thing
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12:16
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| fugolini
|
?
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12:16
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| themayor
|
yes
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12:16
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| themayor
|
go ahead
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12:16
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| fugolini
|
You talked about press release, but you are referring to en_US press release
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12:16
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| fugolini
|
?
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12:16
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| fugolini
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*are you
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12:16
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| quaid
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sort-of
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12:16
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| fugolini
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ah, ok
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12:17
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| quaid
|
we already have a process for release announcements to be fully localized
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12:17
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| themayor
|
for the most part, yes
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12:17
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| themayor
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but we have a process for translation of release announcements and whatever
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12:17
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| quaid
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do we want to consider the formal press release be l10nized?
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12:17
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12:17
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| themayor
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if we think we can handle it without significant trouble, why not
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12:18
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| themayor
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?
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12:18
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12:18
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| fugolini
|
I was just wondering about the possibility to have a way to push press release around the world, maybe using rh officies
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12:18
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| fugolini
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*offices
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12:18
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| quaid
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I'll talk with Paul about it
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12:18
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| quaid
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the concern, historically, has been
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12:18
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| quaid
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not wanting to show the formal press release in advance, if it gets out it ruins the expectation/relationship with traditional journalists.
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12:19
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| fugolini
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right
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12:19
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| quaid
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anyway, I'll ask Paul if we want to try this time
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12:19
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| themayor
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okay so lets add that as a note to the current task on the list
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12:21
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| themayor
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and lets move on
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12:21
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| themayor
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quaid: update on release announcements
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12:22
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| quaid
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themayor: are you editing the task list as you go?
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12:22
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| themayor
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anything you want to tell us?
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12:22
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| themayor
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quaid: not currently, no,
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12:22
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| themayor
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is there a lock on the page?
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12:22
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| quaid
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The Beta announcement went out fine
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12:22
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| quaid
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it's time to refine the talking points so we can have locale-specific ones based on the talking points.
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12:23
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| * quaid runs some edits on that task list then
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12:23
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| quaid
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements/TalkingPoints
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12:25
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| quaid
|
so let's get on it!
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12:25
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| quaid
|
<eoreport>
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12:25
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| themayor
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i agree, localized talking points would be awesome
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12:25
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| fugolini
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+1
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12:25
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| quaid
|
we keep waiting until too late in the cycle
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12:26
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| * fugolini hopes he could join the discussion (is a open one?)
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12:26
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| quaid
|
partially because it was just me pushing it :)
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12:26
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| quaid
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fugolini: of course!
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12:26
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| fugolini
|
thnaks
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12:26
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| quaid
|
let's in fact start a thread on the list
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12:26
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| quaid
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(marketing-list)
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12:26
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| themayor
|
okay
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12:29
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| themayor
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is that moved to the list then?
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12:29
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| themayor
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lets keep things moving if so
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12:29
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| themayor
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ke4qqq: whats up?
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12:31
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| themayor
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did you ever finalize that presentation?
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12:31
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12:31
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| ke4qqq
|
yeah mizmo is making it purty last I heard
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12:31
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| mizmo
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ke4qqq, i havent had a chance to yet, its on my todo list
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12:31
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| themayor
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awesome
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12:32
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| themayor
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we will check again next week i guess
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12:32
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| themayor
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speaking of next week
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12:32
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| themayor
|
i wont be around next thursday
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12:32
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| themayor
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so someone else will need to lead the meeting
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12:32
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| themayor
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i guess i will follow up on the list to see who that will ne
|
12:32
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| themayor
|
its yom kippur next thursday
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12:32
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| themayor
|
anyway
|
12:33
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| tw2113
|
ooh meeting
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12:33
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| tw2113
|
MichaelBeckwith
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12:34
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| themayor
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mizmo: max said we have money for the printing
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12:34
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| themayor
|
did anyone follow up on any of that?
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12:34
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| themayor
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he should be in the US tomorrow
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12:34
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| mizmo
|
themayor, yeh i got max's okay and know how many to order, there is some work i have to do to the source files for the printer to work with them
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12:34
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| mizmo
|
its on my plate
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12:34
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| themayor
|
okay great
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12:35
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| themayor
|
awesome
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12:35
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| themayor
|
mizmo: any update on the four foundations stuff?
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12:35
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| mizmo
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themayor, nope, ive been bogged down with f10 art work
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12:36
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| themayor
|
fair enough
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12:36
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| themayor
|
i guess thats a priority
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12:36
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| themayor
|
hows that coming?
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12:36
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12:38
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| themayor
|
mizmo: ?
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12:39
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| themayor
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i guess she is busy
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12:39
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| themayor
|
stepped afk
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12:39
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| mizmo
|
themayor, same as last week
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12:39
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| mizmo
|
the icons that is
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12:39
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| mizmo
|
the f10 artwork, pretty good :)
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12:39
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| themayor
|
awesome
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12:40
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| themayor
|
keep up all the great work
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12:40
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| themayor
|
props to you and the art team
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12:40
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| mizmo
|
:)
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12:40
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| quaid
|
MAD props
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12:40
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| spoleeba
|
quaid, i was going to buy them some mad libs...but props are better
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12:41
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| themayor
|
hahaha
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12:43
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| themayor
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kushal: any updates on the FedoraTV stuff?
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12:43
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| kushal
|
yes
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12:43
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| kushal
|
First of all , I need feed back on "Linux Ahead" news
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12:43
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| kushal
|
don't know who saw it ?
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12:44
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| kushal
|
me and mether are going to do this weekly
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12:44
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| spoleeba
|
kushal, let me watch it today and i'll give you feedback...where would you like.. private email?
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12:45
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| kushal
|
anyone ?
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12:45
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| kushal
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spoleeba, ok
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12:45
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| spoleeba
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kushal, the fact that you are attempting to do it...is already super great
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12:46
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| fugolini
|
yeah
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12:46
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| themayor
|
its awesome
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12:46
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| themayor
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i did watch it
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12:46
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| kushal
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ke4qqq, I also started having audio files
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12:46
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| themayor
|
theres lots of goofs, but its a start of something ive wanted done for a looooong time
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12:46
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| spoleeba
|
kushal, what sort of stuff are you looking for? like feedback on your hairstyle and clothing...or something more structural feedback?
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12:46
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| kushal
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spoleeba, lol
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12:46
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| kushal
|
spoleeba, structural
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12:47
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| kushal
|
actually I sat in wrong chair
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12:47
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| kushal
|
and I was missing the board where I wrote all the news
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12:47
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| kushal
|
:(
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12:47
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| spoleeba
|
kushal, i have to watch it....but i always thing of this sort of thing in terms of...segments..can we easily take bites out of it and reuse them
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12:47
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| kushal
|
so I was looking right many times, to see what is next
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12:47
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| kushal
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spoleeba, ok
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12:47
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| spoleeba
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kushal, production quality...is a matter of practise
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12:48
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| kushal
|
one more thing
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12:48
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| kushal
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Should I put "meet the contributors" videos on fedora tv ?
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12:48
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| spoleeba
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kushal, ive seen some really craptastic pilot sitcome episodes..that got better in the 2nd episode
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12:48
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| spoleeba
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kushal, i dont see why not
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12:48
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| kushal
|
spoleeba, :)
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12:48
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| spoleeba
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kushal, hell... the original pilot for Happy Days had a brother for Richie Cunningham...totally gone in the second episode
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12:49
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| themayor
|
hahaha
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12:49
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| themayor
|
anyway
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12:49
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| themayor
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kushal: yes about the meet the contrubitor videos
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12:50
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| kushal
|
ok, cool
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12:50
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| kushal
|
btw, I started getting good hits than previous month from miro
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12:50
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| quaid
|
spoleeba: I thought the brother was always "off at College"; I remember him playing bball and stuff; but he was gone within a season or two
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12:50
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| spoleeba
|
quaid, shrug
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12:51
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| themayor
|
lol
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12:51
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| spoleeba
|
quaid, im sure by next season kushal will have this ironed out
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12:51
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| kushal
|
any other feedback on the screencasts ?
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12:51
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| kushal
|
spoleeba, hehe
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12:51
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| * lcafiero has to go to day job and begs the chair's pardon
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12:51
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| -!- lcafiero [n=larry@dsl-63-249-115-153.cruzio.com] has quit ["Leaving"]
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12:51
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| themayor
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alright with the remaining 9 minutes anyone want to add anything else or bring anything else to the table?
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12:51
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| spoleeba
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themayor, election-eering?
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12:52
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| kushal
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<eof>
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12:52
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| quaid
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spoleeba: what do you have in mind about it? seems lively on list :)
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12:52
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| themayor
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yeah its a hot topic
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12:53
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| spoleeba
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quaid, again..big concern is timetable..we do have to astroturf a little bit to get people...engaged
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12:53
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12:53
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| fugolini
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spoleeba: I think IRC debate could still work
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12:54
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| fugolini
|
maybe Candidates videos
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12:54
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| fugolini
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would require more time,
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12:54
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12:55
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| themayor
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do we have time for candidate videos?
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12:55
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| themayor
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fugolini: yeah
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12:55
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| spoleeba
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quaid, my biggest concern is...when is the damn election actually going to be..so we know when to start juicing the constituency with made up political scandals
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12:55
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| ke4qqq
|
-1 for candidate videos - it would take a ton of time to watch anything substantive from every candidate in every election people are eligible to vote in - but I could read the log of a debate rather quickly
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12:55
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| spoleeba
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themayor, individual candidates can do it right now...you just need a working camera and cheese
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12:55
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| spoleeba
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themayor, we cant mandate everyone do them
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12:56
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| fugolini
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From ambassadors perspective it has to be between December 1st and December 20th (the election days)
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12:56
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12:56
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| themayor
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spoleeba: well we need to plant that seed in their head
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12:56
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| spoleeba
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themayor, right..timetable
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12:56
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| spoleeba
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themayor, everything basically needs to happen about a month before
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12:56
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| spoleeba
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themayor, so we have a couple of weeks of candicate action..and a little q/a..then 2 weeks out we can repackage that interaction to feed into a debate
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12:57
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| spoleeba
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themayor, err i should say..set the stage and build interest for a debate
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12:57
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| spoleeba
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themayor, 1 week out from the vote or so
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12:57
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| themayor
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yeah
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12:59
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| themayor
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but like was stated, i dont think we can make it man datory
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12:59
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| themayor
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mandatory even
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12:59
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| fugolini
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logically
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12:59
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| themayor
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surely a video will be a big boost to any candidate that chooses to do so
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12:59
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| spoleeba
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themayor, oh i think a video would have hurt me :->
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13:00
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| fugolini
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themayor: but there are people who don't own a camera
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13:00
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| fugolini
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or have bad skills in post processing
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13:00
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| themayor
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well some things are beyond our control
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13:00
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| fugolini
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eof
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13:00
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| themayor
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anyway
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13:00
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| themayor
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we are just about over an hour
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13:00
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| themayor
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anyone want to add anything else
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13:00
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| themayor
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otherwise, ill say lets move everything over to the list till next week
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13:01
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| fugolini
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themayor: who will take the duty to follow IRC candidate talk ?
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13:01
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| fugolini
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spoleeba: ?
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13:01
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| spoleeba
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fugolini, follow?
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13:01
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| themayor
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and we really need to sit down and have a proper long term strategy sessions maybe next week, when more people with more ideas are around
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13:01
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| spoleeba
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themayor, who said i was around next week?
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13:02
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13:02
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| spoleeba
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themayor, im flying to NC weds
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13:02
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| fugolini
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spoleeba: I was just asking who will take care of this task
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13:02
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| fugolini
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IRC debates
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13:02
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| fugolini
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or each project organize it on its own?
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13:02
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| spoleeba
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fugolini, i believe spevack was already volunteered on the list
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13:02
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| themayor
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spoleeba: well, lets follow up with a good hearty discussion on the list and i guess i will PM sometime between now and next week
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13:02
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| fugolini
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ah ok
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13:03
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| spoleeba
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fugolini, to moderate
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13:03
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| fugolini
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that's great
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13:03
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| themayor
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alright, i need to move on to other work, so im gonna call it a meeting unless anyone objects?
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13:04
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| themayor
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or i can go and you guys can feel free to chatter bug about
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13:04
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| themayor
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got a phone conf in 11 mins
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13:05
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| themayor
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alright, thats a wrap then
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13:05
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| themayor
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see you guys on the list
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13:05
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| fugolini
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thank you themayor
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13:06
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| themayor
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thank you guys for all the awesome work
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