| themayor
| okay, let the meeting come to order
| 12:00
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| quaid
| btw
| 12:00
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| themayor
| we'll wait a couple minutes to let people file in, but please lets start the ROLL CALL
| 12:00
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| quaid
| we did get the other meeting slot in #fedora-meeting
| 12:00
|
| * lcafiero plays the role of larry cafiero
| 12:00
|
| * gregdek will be in and out, call me by name if you need me
| 12:00
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| quaid
| I presumptively put us on the meeting channel page for this time, too, to hold the slot
| 12:00
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| themayor
| quaid: awesome, yeah i knew you got it, but just wanted to make sure we dont lose anyone
| 12:01
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| quaid
| ok, then _next_week_ we'll start telling people before the meeting to head to that channel instead of stay here?
| 12:01
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| themayor
| yeah absolutely
| 12:01
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| themayor
| in the announce i said this should be the last week in here
| 12:01
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| kushal
| so Roll Call ?
| 12:01
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| mizmo
| yo
| 12:02
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| themayor
| yeah roll call
| 12:02
|
| * quaid is still Karsten
| 12:02
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| kushal
| Kushal Das
| 12:02
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| ria
| Ria Das
| 12:02
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| * lcafiero still larry cafiero
| 12:02
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| * ke4qqq is here
| 12:04
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| kushal
| please continue
| 12:04
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| kushal
| why we stopped ?
| 12:05
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| themayor
| we are waiting for role call
| 12:05
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| fugolini
| FrancescoUgolini
| 12:05
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| * fugolini will be afk for 5mins
| 12:06
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| kushal
| themayor, start the class :p
| 12:06
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| themayor
| okay awesome
| 12:06
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| themayor
| lets go
| 12:06
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| themayor
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks
| 12:06
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| themayor
| pull that up
| 12:06
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| 12:07
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| themayor
| we are continuing discussion of our long term goals
| 12:07
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| themayor
| basically as a summary
| 12:08
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| themayor
| last meeting
| 12:08
|
| * fugolini brb
| 12:08
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| themayor
| we all agreed that we need to marketing featuring better
| 12:09
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| themayor
| and we need more management of press leading up to and at release time
| 12:09
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| themayor
| so based on that, quaid updated the task list
| 12:10
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| themayor
| is stickster around?
| 12:10
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| themayor
| maybe he can update us on press efforts for the forthcoming release
| 12:10
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| ke4qqq
| stickster: is in hospital visiting his mother iirc
| 12:11
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| themayor
| ah yeah
| 12:11
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| themayor
| sorry
| 12:11
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| themayor
| i forgot i read that befoe
| 12:12
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| quaid
| Caroline is back as our @redhat.com PR liaison
| 12:12
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| quaid
| paul has written to some lists about the major features they are focusing on in press work
| 12:12
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| themayor
| yup and yup
| 12:12
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| themayor
| caroline is back from leave
| 12:12
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| quaid
| btw, I recommended we add "XFS available during installation" to that list (although it's been in since F9?); purely as a marketing move and response to the years of complaints :)
| 12:13
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| themayor
| we've had that for much longer than f9 actually
| 12:13
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| quaid
| ah, guess I did miss that :)
| 12:13
|
| * quaid pipes down
| 12:13
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| ke4qqq
| really?? I don't recall it in f8
| 12:14
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| ke4qqq
| but perhaps I missed it
| 12:14
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| themayor
| anyway
| 12:14
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| themayor
| yes, we should put that in there
| 12:14
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| fugolini
| ?
| 12:14
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| themayor
| okay anyway, if paul isnt here, lets table the press stuff for next week
| 12:16
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| themayor
| next week we need to have a serious discussion of that
| 12:16
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| fugolini
| May I ask you a thing
| 12:16
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| fugolini
| ?
| 12:16
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| themayor
| yes
| 12:16
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| themayor
| go ahead
| 12:16
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| fugolini
| You talked about press release, but you are referring to en_US press release
| 12:16
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| fugolini
| ?
| 12:16
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| fugolini
| *are you
| 12:16
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| quaid
| sort-of
| 12:16
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| fugolini
| ah, ok
| 12:17
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| quaid
| we already have a process for release announcements to be fully localized
| 12:17
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| themayor
| for the most part, yes
| 12:17
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| themayor
| but we have a process for translation of release announcements and whatever
| 12:17
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| quaid
| do we want to consider the formal press release be l10nized?
| 12:17
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| 12:17
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| themayor
| if we think we can handle it without significant trouble, why not
| 12:18
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| themayor
| ?
| 12:18
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| 12:18
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| fugolini
| I was just wondering about the possibility to have a way to push press release around the world, maybe using rh officies
| 12:18
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| fugolini
| *offices
| 12:18
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| quaid
| I'll talk with Paul about it
| 12:18
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| quaid
| the concern, historically, has been
| 12:18
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| quaid
| not wanting to show the formal press release in advance, if it gets out it ruins the expectation/relationship with traditional journalists.
| 12:19
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| fugolini
| right
| 12:19
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| quaid
| anyway, I'll ask Paul if we want to try this time
| 12:19
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| themayor
| okay so lets add that as a note to the current task on the list
| 12:21
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| themayor
| and lets move on
| 12:21
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| themayor
| quaid: update on release announcements
| 12:22
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| quaid
| themayor: are you editing the task list as you go?
| 12:22
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| themayor
| anything you want to tell us?
| 12:22
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| themayor
| quaid: not currently, no,
| 12:22
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| themayor
| is there a lock on the page?
| 12:22
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| quaid
| The Beta announcement went out fine
| 12:22
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| quaid
| it's time to refine the talking points so we can have locale-specific ones based on the talking points.
| 12:23
|
| * quaid runs some edits on that task list then
| 12:23
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| quaid
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements/TalkingPoints
| 12:25
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| quaid
| so let's get on it!
| 12:25
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| quaid
| <eoreport>
| 12:25
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| themayor
| i agree, localized talking points would be awesome
| 12:25
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| fugolini
| +1
| 12:25
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| quaid
| we keep waiting until too late in the cycle
| 12:26
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| * fugolini hopes he could join the discussion (is a open one?)
| 12:26
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| quaid
| partially because it was just me pushing it :)
| 12:26
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| quaid
| fugolini: of course!
| 12:26
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| fugolini
| thnaks
| 12:26
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| quaid
| let's in fact start a thread on the list
| 12:26
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| quaid
| (marketing-list)
| 12:26
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| themayor
| okay
| 12:29
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| themayor
| is that moved to the list then?
| 12:29
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| themayor
| lets keep things moving if so
| 12:29
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| themayor
| ke4qqq: whats up?
| 12:31
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| themayor
| did you ever finalize that presentation?
| 12:31
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| 12:31
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| ke4qqq
| yeah mizmo is making it purty last I heard
| 12:31
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| mizmo
| ke4qqq, i havent had a chance to yet, its on my todo list
| 12:31
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| themayor
| awesome
| 12:32
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| themayor
| we will check again next week i guess
| 12:32
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| themayor
| speaking of next week
| 12:32
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| themayor
| i wont be around next thursday
| 12:32
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| themayor
| so someone else will need to lead the meeting
| 12:32
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| themayor
| i guess i will follow up on the list to see who that will ne
| 12:32
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| themayor
| its yom kippur next thursday
| 12:32
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| themayor
| anyway
| 12:33
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| tw2113
| ooh meeting
| 12:33
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| tw2113
| MichaelBeckwith
| 12:34
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| themayor
| mizmo: max said we have money for the printing
| 12:34
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| themayor
| did anyone follow up on any of that?
| 12:34
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| themayor
| he should be in the US tomorrow
| 12:34
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| mizmo
| themayor, yeh i got max's okay and know how many to order, there is some work i have to do to the source files for the printer to work with them
| 12:34
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| mizmo
| its on my plate
| 12:34
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| themayor
| okay great
| 12:35
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| themayor
| awesome
| 12:35
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| themayor
| mizmo: any update on the four foundations stuff?
| 12:35
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| mizmo
| themayor, nope, ive been bogged down with f10 art work
| 12:36
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| themayor
| fair enough
| 12:36
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| themayor
| i guess thats a priority
| 12:36
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| themayor
| hows that coming?
| 12:36
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| 12:38
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| themayor
| mizmo: ?
| 12:39
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| themayor
| i guess she is busy
| 12:39
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| themayor
| stepped afk
| 12:39
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| mizmo
| themayor, same as last week
| 12:39
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| mizmo
| the icons that is
| 12:39
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| mizmo
| the f10 artwork, pretty good :)
| 12:39
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| themayor
| awesome
| 12:40
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| themayor
| keep up all the great work
| 12:40
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| themayor
| props to you and the art team
| 12:40
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| mizmo
| :)
| 12:40
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| quaid
| MAD props
| 12:40
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| spoleeba
| quaid, i was going to buy them some mad libs...but props are better
| 12:41
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| themayor
| hahaha
| 12:43
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| themayor
| kushal: any updates on the FedoraTV stuff?
| 12:43
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| kushal
| yes
| 12:43
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| kushal
| First of all , I need feed back on "Linux Ahead" news
| 12:43
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| kushal
| don't know who saw it ?
| 12:44
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| kushal
| me and mether are going to do this weekly
| 12:44
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| spoleeba
| kushal, let me watch it today and i'll give you feedback...where would you like.. private email?
| 12:45
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| kushal
| anyone ?
| 12:45
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| kushal
| spoleeba, ok
| 12:45
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| spoleeba
| kushal, the fact that you are attempting to do it...is already super great
| 12:46
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| fugolini
| yeah
| 12:46
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| themayor
| its awesome
| 12:46
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| themayor
| i did watch it
| 12:46
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| kushal
| ke4qqq, I also started having audio files
| 12:46
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| themayor
| theres lots of goofs, but its a start of something ive wanted done for a looooong time
| 12:46
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| spoleeba
| kushal, what sort of stuff are you looking for? like feedback on your hairstyle and clothing...or something more structural feedback?
| 12:46
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| kushal
| spoleeba, lol
| 12:46
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| kushal
| spoleeba, structural
| 12:47
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| kushal
| actually I sat in wrong chair
| 12:47
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| kushal
| and I was missing the board where I wrote all the news
| 12:47
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| kushal
| :(
| 12:47
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| spoleeba
| kushal, i have to watch it....but i always thing of this sort of thing in terms of...segments..can we easily take bites out of it and reuse them
| 12:47
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| kushal
| so I was looking right many times, to see what is next
| 12:47
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| kushal
| spoleeba, ok
| 12:47
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| spoleeba
| kushal, production quality...is a matter of practise
| 12:48
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| kushal
| one more thing
| 12:48
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| kushal
| Should I put "meet the contributors" videos on fedora tv ?
| 12:48
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| spoleeba
| kushal, ive seen some really craptastic pilot sitcome episodes..that got better in the 2nd episode
| 12:48
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| spoleeba
| kushal, i dont see why not
| 12:48
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| kushal
| spoleeba, :)
| 12:48
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| spoleeba
| kushal, hell... the original pilot for Happy Days had a brother for Richie Cunningham...totally gone in the second episode
| 12:49
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| themayor
| hahaha
| 12:49
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| themayor
| anyway
| 12:49
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| themayor
| kushal: yes about the meet the contrubitor videos
| 12:50
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| kushal
| ok, cool
| 12:50
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| kushal
| btw, I started getting good hits than previous month from miro
| 12:50
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| quaid
| spoleeba: I thought the brother was always "off at College"; I remember him playing bball and stuff; but he was gone within a season or two
| 12:50
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| spoleeba
| quaid, shrug
| 12:51
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| themayor
| lol
| 12:51
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| spoleeba
| quaid, im sure by next season kushal will have this ironed out
| 12:51
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| kushal
| any other feedback on the screencasts ?
| 12:51
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| kushal
| spoleeba, hehe
| 12:51
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| * lcafiero has to go to day job and begs the chair's pardon
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| themayor
| alright with the remaining 9 minutes anyone want to add anything else or bring anything else to the table?
| 12:51
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| spoleeba
| themayor, election-eering?
| 12:52
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| kushal
| <eof>
| 12:52
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| quaid
| spoleeba: what do you have in mind about it? seems lively on list :)
| 12:52
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| themayor
| yeah its a hot topic
| 12:53
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| spoleeba
| quaid, again..big concern is timetable..we do have to astroturf a little bit to get people...engaged
| 12:53
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| -!- Prakhar is now known as AcidBURN
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| fugolini
| spoleeba: I think IRC debate could still work
| 12:54
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| fugolini
| maybe Candidates videos
| 12:54
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| fugolini
| would require more time,
| 12:54
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| themayor
| do we have time for candidate videos?
| 12:55
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| themayor
| fugolini: yeah
| 12:55
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| spoleeba
| quaid, my biggest concern is...when is the damn election actually going to be..so we know when to start juicing the constituency with made up political scandals
| 12:55
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| ke4qqq
| -1 for candidate videos - it would take a ton of time to watch anything substantive from every candidate in every election people are eligible to vote in - but I could read the log of a debate rather quickly
| 12:55
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| spoleeba
| themayor, individual candidates can do it right now...you just need a working camera and cheese
| 12:55
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| spoleeba
| themayor, we cant mandate everyone do them
| 12:56
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| fugolini
| From ambassadors perspective it has to be between December 1st and December 20th (the election days)
| 12:56
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| themayor
| spoleeba: well we need to plant that seed in their head
| 12:56
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| spoleeba
| themayor, right..timetable
| 12:56
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| spoleeba
| themayor, everything basically needs to happen about a month before
| 12:56
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| spoleeba
| themayor, so we have a couple of weeks of candicate action..and a little q/a..then 2 weeks out we can repackage that interaction to feed into a debate
| 12:57
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| spoleeba
| themayor, err i should say..set the stage and build interest for a debate
| 12:57
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| spoleeba
| themayor, 1 week out from the vote or so
| 12:57
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| themayor
| yeah
| 12:59
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| themayor
| but like was stated, i dont think we can make it man datory
| 12:59
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| themayor
| mandatory even
| 12:59
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| fugolini
| logically
| 12:59
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| themayor
| surely a video will be a big boost to any candidate that chooses to do so
| 12:59
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| spoleeba
| themayor, oh i think a video would have hurt me :->
| 13:00
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| fugolini
| themayor: but there are people who don't own a camera
| 13:00
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| fugolini
| or have bad skills in post processing
| 13:00
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| themayor
| well some things are beyond our control
| 13:00
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| fugolini
| eof
| 13:00
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| themayor
| anyway
| 13:00
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| themayor
| we are just about over an hour
| 13:00
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| themayor
| anyone want to add anything else
| 13:00
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| themayor
| otherwise, ill say lets move everything over to the list till next week
| 13:01
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| fugolini
| themayor: who will take the duty to follow IRC candidate talk ?
| 13:01
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| fugolini
| spoleeba: ?
| 13:01
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| spoleeba
| fugolini, follow?
| 13:01
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| themayor
| and we really need to sit down and have a proper long term strategy sessions maybe next week, when more people with more ideas are around
| 13:01
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| spoleeba
| themayor, who said i was around next week?
| 13:02
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| spoleeba
| themayor, im flying to NC weds
| 13:02
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| fugolini
| spoleeba: I was just asking who will take care of this task
| 13:02
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| fugolini
| IRC debates
| 13:02
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| fugolini
| or each project organize it on its own?
| 13:02
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| spoleeba
| fugolini, i believe spevack was already volunteered on the list
| 13:02
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| themayor
| spoleeba: well, lets follow up with a good hearty discussion on the list and i guess i will PM sometime between now and next week
| 13:02
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| fugolini
| ah ok
| 13:03
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| spoleeba
| fugolini, to moderate
| 13:03
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| fugolini
| that's great
| 13:03
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| themayor
| alright, i need to move on to other work, so im gonna call it a meeting unless anyone objects?
| 13:04
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| themayor
| or i can go and you guys can feel free to chatter bug about
| 13:04
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| themayor
| got a phone conf in 11 mins
| 13:05
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| themayor
| alright, thats a wrap then
| 13:05
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| themayor
| see you guys on the list
| 13:05
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| fugolini
| thank you themayor
| 13:06
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| themayor
| thank you guys for all the awesome work
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