| themayor
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hey guys
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| moixs
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hello :)
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| themayor
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fedora marketing meetings
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| linuxguru
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yay
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| herlo
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oh hai!
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| herlo
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.fas herlo
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| zodbot
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herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1@gmail.com>
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| themayor
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anyone else?
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| themayor
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lets give it another minute
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| herlo
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k
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| themayor
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alright lets go
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| herlo
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k
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| themayor
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let me get into the fedora tour thing first
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| themayor
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herlo, did you get a chance to finish up the screenshot tour:?
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22:06
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| * herlo was unable to get the fingerprint reader thing to work on his machine, not sure what's going on there. Haven't had time to troubleshoot much
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| herlo
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in addition, I wanted to get the screencast for the new boot up on the tour too...
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| themayor
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okay what options do you have for the fingerprint stuff?
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| herlo
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apparently none now
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| themayor
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can you ask someone on another list to contribute?
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| herlo
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probably
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| herlo
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not sure where, but if that's the only thing missing, I'm not too sad
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| moixs
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Is it really that important to put so much effort into one screenshot? :p
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| herlo
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exactly my thoughts
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| * stickster is here late, sorry
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| themayor
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yes, because it is a feature we are promoting
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| stickster
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herlo: Hey, I think I have you covered
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| stickster
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themayor: ^^
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| herlo
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stickster: ooh, cool
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| themayor
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awesome
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| herlo
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stickster: we need an about me and a pop-up message
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| stickster
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Hang on... brb, uploading from a different user login
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| herlo
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those are the ones I wanted to get
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| themayor
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stickster: thats for the fingerprint thing or the boot up? or both?
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| herlo
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stickster: I have the boot screencast done
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| herlo
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http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/f11-plymouth-restart.ogg
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| stickster
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fprint
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| herlo
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sweet!
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| themayor
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okay great
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| themayor
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okay so we are good to go with that portion of things, right?
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| moixs
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herlo: can't you just edit out the whole part which shows display corruptions?
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| herlo
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moixs: yeah, probably, but I don't know that it even matters that much
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| stickster
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herlo: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/temp/fprint/
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| stickster
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Anything else you need besides those?
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| herlo
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moixs: any suggestions for doing that? I could use mencoder to rip it out I suppose and splice it back together gstreamer
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| * herlo looks at what stickster linked
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| herlo
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stickster: yeah, we need a pop-up that prompts for password / fingerprint
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| themayor
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aside from that we have the actual Fedora 11 Tour Page
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| themayor
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take a look here
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| themayor
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_tour
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| stickster
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herlo: Ah, OK
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| moixs
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herlo: no idea, but any video editing applications could be used to cut a piece out. I just don't know any :p
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| themayor
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i sent out an email about this to the list last week and no one responded
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| herlo
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moixs: I'll look around. I'm trying to get the Media printed this week so we'll see what kind of time I have
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| moixs
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herlo: I'll have a look at it
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| stickster
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herlo: You mean the gnome-screensaver unlock dialog?
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| themayor
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we should have that page up and running for release day, so its best to start work on it now
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| themayor
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i need help with it
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| herlo
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stickster: that'd work, or running an app that needs root privileges
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| stickster
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herlo: wouldn't that require the user registering fingerprints for root?
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| * stickster checks to see if PolicyKit works on fprint
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| herlo
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stickster: dunno, maybe it's not recommended, fprint for screensaver is fine
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| herlo
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I use fprint for root
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| herlo
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er thinkfinger
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| stickster
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Just speaking for myself, I wouldn't
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| stickster
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but meh
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| herlo
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well, then it's probably a good idea not to use my suggestion
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| herlo
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anyway, I'll take your images and make a new section for it on the tour
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| themayor
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can someone help me out with the fedora 11 tour page?
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| herlo
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_tour
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| herlo
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themayor: a link? or did you need stuff on there
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| themayor
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well it needs to be filled in
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| herlo
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I can do the boot screencast in there
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| themayor
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does anyone think they have time to take ownership of that whole thing and bang it out?
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| themayor
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okay i guess not
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22:20
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| * themayor adds yet another thing to my list
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| themayor
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moving on
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| themayor
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ive pretty much been working on all the content and lead up news thats been going out and will continue to go out
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| * spevack shows up late, thinking the meeting wasn't until the next :00. apologies
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| themayor
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stickster: any idea if we are slipping?
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| * themayor waves to spevack
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| spevack
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themayor: howdy, sorry i'm late
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| themayor
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np
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| themayor
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you havent missed much
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| stickster
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themayor: We will be slipping by a week, I just came from a confab with rel-eng and other folks
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| themayor
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okay nice
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| stickster
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Well, let me be more precise -- Jesse is checking with FESCo to make sure that rel-eng is the one who announces that.
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| themayor
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so therefore, i dont need to put out two interviews on thursday
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| stickster
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If not, FESCo will need to consider it.
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| themayor
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ah so its not 100% yet
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| stickster
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rel-eng and QA and everyone else in the meeting was agreed.
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| stickster
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So I don't foresee a big conflict about it, just that it needs to be ratified properly.
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| themayor
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ah okay
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| themayor
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alright so the schedule is like this
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| themayor
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for thursday, im am going to print the virt interview with danpb
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22:23
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| themayor
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i have asked josh boyer to see if he wants to conduct a podcast on mingw
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| themayor
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if so, that could go out next week
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| themayor
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oh also, i have the podcast with j5 on fedora community
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| herlo
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themayor: Fedora Classroom has some good irc sessions on MingW from April iirc
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| stickster
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Josh Boyer and MinGW?
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| herlo
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that could be a useful link if you want to add it
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| themayor
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huh?
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| herlo
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themayor: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_the_Windows_cross-compiler_Classroom_%2820090308%29
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| themayor
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er, presto
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| themayor
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sorry
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| themayor
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my head is in the air
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| herlo
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ahh, nm
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| themayor
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i was thinking to figure out if i could get someone to do something on mingw
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| herlo
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themayor: I'm sure Richard would be willing
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| themayor
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yeah we already did one podcast with him though
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| herlo
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ahh
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| stickster
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Richard Jones?
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| themayor
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its richard jones?
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| herlo
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stickster: yeah I believe so
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| herlo
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rwmjones
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| herlo
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Using the Windows cross-compiler - Richard Jones
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| herlo
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this is all from Fedora Classroom wiki page
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| herlo
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom#Classroom_Archive
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| spevack
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Richard's going to give a talk on MinGW stuff at FUDCon Berlin, too.
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| herlo
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w00t!
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| themayor
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ah sorry wrong richard
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| themayor
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i thought it was richard hughes for some reason, wow im really messed up today
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| themayor
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lack of sleep
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| themayor
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okay so yeah anyway, jboyer to interview seth for presto
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| themayor
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and i will try and get something with richard jones then
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| themayor
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and on top of that the volume control interview
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| stickster
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Yeah, we still don't have anyone else picking that one up, do we?
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| themayor
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which one?
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| themayor
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volume control?
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| stickster
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yes, the volume control feature
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| stickster
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I think it was still unclaimed on the in-depth feature lsit.
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| stickster
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*list
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| themayor
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what do you mean, i did it
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| themayor
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with lennart
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| themayor
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we didnt do anything on ext4
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| stickster
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Oh, I had forgotten that you did the one with Lennart!
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| stickster
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Excellent.
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| themayor
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lennart told me if i want audio to ask bastien, but the print stuff is done
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| themayor
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because apparently lennart has a heavy accent
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| stickster
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He writes really well, though. :-)
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| stickster
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Better than a lot of English speakers I know :-)
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| themayor
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thats why i suggested if anyone in germany or another country would be interested in conducting a podcast in their native tongue
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| themayor
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ill poke the list about it
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| halfline
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lennart has a very understandable accent
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| themayor
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idk either way
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| halfline
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i think he just used that as an excuse :-)
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| themayor
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hahaha
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| themayor
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yeah danpb didnt wanna do audio at all and was like straight up, no
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| themayor
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lol
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| spevack
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perhaps lennart is self conscious, but IMHO he does not have a heavy accent. I had a wonderful conversation w/ him at LinuxTag last year
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| spevack
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but, whatever :)
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| themayor
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anyway
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| themayor
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regardless, lets focus on what we can get done
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22:35
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| themayor
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i just sent a mail to the list about a foreign language podcast
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| themayor
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lets see what happens
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| themayor
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both those 4 or 5 pieces should get us through next week to release
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| themayor
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oh and something about the new virt features in fedora is going on the press blog too, hopefully on thursday
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| spevack
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did we talk about https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_tour yet?
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| herlo
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spevack: yep
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| herlo
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spevack: but if you have something to add, I'd love to hear it
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22:36
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| spevack
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herlo: nope -- i'll just scrollback and read
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| themayor
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other than that, we should decide now, what content we want out and to be pointing to on release day
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| themayor
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ill defer to stickster to see what you think on that one, and then ill take it from there
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| stickster
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OK, so to answer the question of what to point *to*, I need to know where we're pointing *from*
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22:39
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| stickster
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In general, community news outlets we'll want to send a link to the release announcement that is posted on the fedora-announce-list
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22:39
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| stickster
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That announcement has all the links to download sites and other important bits.
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| themayor
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exactly
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| stickster
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If people are blogging about the release individually, they should probably point to http://get.fedoraproject.org for downloads
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22:40
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| stickster
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and http://join.fedoraproject.org for calls to action
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22:41
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| stickster
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***Important note:
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22:41
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| themayor
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okay so lets see whats going on with the release announcement
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22:41
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| themayor
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yeah go ahrad
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| stickster
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/SOP/Release#Static_.2F_cached_urls
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22:42
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| stickster
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That link contains a list of static/cached URLs run by the Infrastructure team
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22:42
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| stickster
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If you're sending something to a place that might get us slashdotted, make sure you are using only URLs on that list
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22:42
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| themayor
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okay so we should add the tour there
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22:42
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| stickster
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themayor: hang on, I was getting to that
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22:42
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| stickster
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If you need to add a wiki page,
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| themayor
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okay sorry to interrupt
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22:43
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| stickster
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The wiki is cached on release day
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22:43
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| stickster
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make sure you use the *http://* URL
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22:43
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| stickster
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*NOT* the *https://* URL
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22:43
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| stickster
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Otherwise you force the servers to go through a bunch of auth stuff
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22:43
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| stickster
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the plain HTTP version is cached and should be fast enough to handle heavy load.
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22:43
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| spevack
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stickster: very good, important tip
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22:44
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| herlo
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_tour now has the new charge plymouth bootup screencast...
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22:44
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| stickster
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OK, sorry that was a little on the propellerhead side.
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| stickster
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But anyway.
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| stickster
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themayor: Were there other areas where people will be putting up info that I didn't cover?
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22:45
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| stickster
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themayor: Oh, I remember the other thing I wanted to add
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22:45
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| stickster
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themayor: Does the NDN already have a coverage plan for Digg, Reddit, etc.?
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| themayor
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moixs: ?
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22:46
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| themayor
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all i know is that ive been submitting to digg
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| themayor
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and what do you mean by coverage plan
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22:46
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| themayor
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meaning who will submit to them?
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| stickster
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Exactly.
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22:46
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| moixs
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As usual, it's the responsibility of the people in their respective languages
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22:46
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| moixs
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that is, themayor :D
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22:46
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| themayor
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yeah i got english
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| stickster
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Okey dokey
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22:47
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| themayor
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so if there are other sites in english you want submitted other than slashdot, digg, reddit, newsvine, etc and whatevers on the list
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22:47
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| themayor
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those are mine
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22:47
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| stickster
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themayor: OK, do you have a URL to that list handy?
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22:48
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| themayor
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anything else, you can add to the list or email
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22:48
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| themayor
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its linked off the ndn page
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22:48
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| themayor
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one sec
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22:48
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| stickster
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Oh never mind, AwesomeBar to the rescue
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22:48
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| themayor
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awesomebar?
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22:49
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| themayor
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the ff3 address bar
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22:50
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| stickster
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yup. Go ahead, I got it
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| moixs
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications
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22:50
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| themayor
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i should add some stuff to the list
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22:51
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| themayor
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ill do that today
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22:51
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| stickster
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themayor: I don't see digg, reddit, etc. there
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22:51
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| stickster
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Ah, OK
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| * stickster catches up
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| themayor
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i want to finish the virt thing so caroline can take a look at it
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22:51
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| themayor
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yeah i usually do digg, slashdot, reddit, propellerhead, newsvine, shoutwire and a few others
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| themayor
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ill add everything to the list today to make sure its official
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22:52
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| stickster
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Sweet
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22:53
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| themayor
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other than that, we need to make sure all the links get into the release announcement
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22:53
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| themayor
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i just emailed sparks and the list asking for progress
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22:53
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| themayor
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because not much was done yet
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22:54
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| stickster
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themayor: They were speaking about it in #fedora-docs earlier
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22:54
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| themayor
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stickster: we are going to be translating that, right? not rh press people, correct>?
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| stickster
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themayor: Each locale can produce its own topside content for that announcement.
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22:54
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| themayor
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ah okay, as long as thats cool
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22:55
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| stickster
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The bottomside content in the announcement is pretty cut and dried and can be translated easily. For example, "To download, visit: <URL>"
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| themayor
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yup
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| themayor
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alright, so maybe moixs, can we get pages for each language of the ndn where they can write their own stuff on?
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22:56
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| moixs
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What do you mean by "get"?
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| =-= rdieter is now known as rdieter_
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| themayor
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can we create
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22:57
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| moixs
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Edit the wiki the way you want, but one page per language for the announcement seems reasonable
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22:57
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| moixs
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yeah sure
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22:57
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| themayor
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okay do you have time to do it?
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22:57
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| moixs
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It should take no longer than 2 minutes to create empty pages, so yes
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22:58
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| themayor
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okay awesome
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22:59
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| stickster
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themayor: moixs: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements
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| stickster
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Just pointing that out
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22:59
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| moixs
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_archive#Fedora_Press_Releases
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| moixs
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Should we add them there?
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| moixs
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(yes, i just discovered this section)
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| themayor
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yeah release announcement sounds better
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| themayor
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lets do that and work from there
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| themayor
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if you send me a link, i can send it to the list notifying people that its there and they can use it
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| moixs
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Wasn't there a page for the english one already?
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| themayor
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yes
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23:02
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| * moixs is lost in links
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| themayor
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http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Announcement_for_F11
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| moixs
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Good, I'm going to set up the pages for the other languages
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23:03
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| moixs
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Then, the translation teams need to update them
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23:04
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| themayor
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alright, so other than that, i think we are good through next week where we can bring up release day stuff again and finalize our plan
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| themayor
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sound like a plan?
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23:04
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| herlo
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ya
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| themayor
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stickster, spevack anything to add?
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| stickster
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themayor: No, just that you and Sparks share the ball for the release announcement
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| ianweller
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oh my, a marketing meeting that i totally just missed
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| themayor
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stickster: oy vey!
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| stickster
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ianweller: We assigned everything to you, don't worry about it.
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23:08
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| ianweller
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stickster: thanks.
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| themayor
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thats rough
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| stickster
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hee hee
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| ianweller
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:D
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| themayor
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anyway lets call it a meeting
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